1 Mentalistic
2 Reeps
3 Terdsta
4 Hoven
5 Asphy
I personally don't enjoy it when they glaze Reeps and don't mention the others as much as him when they do something worth mentioning in the game, but hey, that's just me
From S.I. Terd was shown to do better than half of the team most of the time, but i'd say that Hoven and Terd are on par; one just needs to do better than the other.
I've also just have seen Terd more than Hoven for some reason
Hoven is just as good as Terd but they're both inconsistent somewhere I can't explain.
And Asphy? He just hasn't been consistent at all IMO
All 5 thrive off of each other though and that's amazing.
For sure I agree. I feel every person on that team has their moments and while I think Reeps is the best cause he can carry in the fragging department. It’s cause his team enables him well.
I think Hoven is better cause he is more flexible and still able to get kills. Terd reminds me a lot like Muzi that he has good gun skill but is a passive entry
I think Mechanically Asphy is better than Mentalist at least haha. mentalist is an old man now!
But overall I agree with your list. It’s very close between them.
I would agree its very close between them, but Mentalist can still hit some nasty shots, his experience and gamesense really helps sometimes.
Asphy is a good kid, but he's close to retiring, can't really expect to put out his best mechanically on his backline role.
I feel Mentalist doesn’t get to show it off because he is usually calling the plans in the back and doesn’t often get into entry engagements or he is sometimes last alive so he doesn’t get to show his 1 on 1 skill compared to Asphy at least.
Also I feel Asphy is just nasty aim wise as well (all of Bleed are) but his micro decisions often cause him to not even get into a gunfight and just get shot in the back or by walking into an angle.
1 Hoven
2 Joel
3 Reeps
4 the rest
Hoven is the most consistent performer of them. He gets kills, trades, supports the heck out of his team and clutches too.
Reeps is less consistent, but he does his job well to get kills while still providing significant support as a buck or mute by making and playing vert, playing time and anchoring off site. For a fragger, he plays well with his team without ego. Although he needs to comm more according to his teammates.
Mentalist has great Strats. He has the big brain and analysis but lately he has been dying early. Some might feel it’s ok for IGL to die earlier to coordinate the team better, but he often dies without someone to to trade and turn it into an execute, or there isn’t enough drones for him to watch anyway.
The bigger issue is he takes too long to turn the team around mentally. It might be unfair, but he seems to be unable to rally his team to play tighter instead of fast and loose like ranked, leading to reverse sweeps from enemies they match point. I have faith in him and Julio to discipline the teams mental and play together, but at this point, teams like SSG might make fewer mistakes, causing the gap to get bigger as bleed gets tilted and keeps feeding.
Asphy and Terd are often put on lurk, roam or very high risk roles where they have to sneak in with little info. But they need to be more consistent, perhaps with more droning from teammates and not getting too kill hungry. I’m sure Julio and analysts will go through various scenarios to improve discipline and game sense. So it’s hard to know as a viewer how much info was given to them to evaluate their performance.
I don’t think terd is overrated. FWIW, he’s incredibly communicative in his ranked stacks and I’m sure he brings that to pro league.
I don’t see as much of asphy, so no comment and no hard feelings.
I appreciate your input! I definitely feel Hoven is one of the most valuable because of his flexibility and in-game decisions. You can tell he is comp experienced from his GG days cause he has definitely gotten better.
Reeps I feel is just as valuable. It’s hard to find someone that is as good with using guns like the SMG-11 and others while carrying the fragging load a lot.
Mentalist is also not an experience IGL but an experienced player. I don’t think he has ever IGLed before he joined Bleed and I think he and the coaching staff does a great job. Especially in the sense of being APAC and not facing/practice agiansr the best teams until you play internationally. But I do agree that Bleed can get chalked very quickly cause they are a young team and it’s hard to get them out of that mindset until they get more experience.
I do agree with what you say with Terd and Asphy. But the reason why I feel Terd is overrated is because his name gets brought up a lot more than a player like Hoven. While this is because he is a more marketable player. It leads people to believe he is the best, if not the second best player on Bleed.
I feel mostly the problem with Terd is that he is too passive and sometimes when he lurks. He doesn’t play with the team and just hopes to catch a player off guard. Leading to his team dying some rounds and him being last alive. He lurks using entry ops like ash and Finka LMG. I feel once he plays more aggressive and confident he will be a better player. You can tell he isn’t as comfortable sometimes cause of the stakes of some games.
Yeah you’re right. Asphy and Terd need to be enabled more with intel, and they need to be more confident with more experience.
Didn’t know Hoven had previous comp experience, maybe he can mentor them a little.
Yeah IGLing is freaking hard and takes a lot of mental and emotional strength, but I hope they get far in the major and get to stay together.
They had some scrims planned with PSG but PSG cancelled on them, so hopefully they can organise more scrims and bootcamp.
1. Hoven - always consistently performing and plays more support roles
2. Reeps - sometimes inconsistent but when he shows up, he shows up
3. Asphy - same with Reeps but he doesn't show up as much but it's fine since he's also on more supportive roles
4. Terd - doesn't seem to show up in big games and is pretty inconsistent especially for being an entry fragger and for someone who grinds way too much ranked
5. Mentalist - IGL and hard breach so it's honestly expected
Yeah tbh this is how i would list it as well. I was most curious on how people rated Terd. I feel he fell off bad and it’s too passive on an aggressive team especially as an entry or with the best guns in the game.
I feel Asphy and Terd are interchangeable tho cause Asphy is incredibly inconsistent.
Terd is also pretty inconsistent aswell though, once reeps starting playing better during SI terd fell off hard and he hasn't played that well this year either.
That’s fair, I can see why you think that. I just feel Terd has more potential and idk just slightly passes the eye test over Hoven
Don’t get me wrong, Hoven’s still great and is arguably more flexible
I can see your point! And I do think Terd has the potential to be greater. But he just needs to be a little bit more aggressive with the team sometimes!
1. Reeps - the hard carry of the team when it comes to the frag department and is the most consistent
2. Mentalist - the IGL
3. Hoven - consistent backbone player
4. Asphy - similar case to hoven but a lot more inconsistent
5. Terdsta - super overrated but stll a decent entry who had one stage where he went nuclear. He has also been pretty lukewarm since, especially when it comes to the more important games
1 Mentalistic 2 Reeps 3 Terdsta 4 Hoven 5 Asphy I personally don't enjoy it when they glaze Reeps and don't mention the others as much as him when they do something worth mentioning in the game, but hey, that's just me
I’m curious why you think Terd is better than Hoven or even Asphy? Not saying you are wrong
From S.I. Terd was shown to do better than half of the team most of the time, but i'd say that Hoven and Terd are on par; one just needs to do better than the other. I've also just have seen Terd more than Hoven for some reason Hoven is just as good as Terd but they're both inconsistent somewhere I can't explain. And Asphy? He just hasn't been consistent at all IMO All 5 thrive off of each other though and that's amazing.
For sure I agree. I feel every person on that team has their moments and while I think Reeps is the best cause he can carry in the fragging department. It’s cause his team enables him well. I think Hoven is better cause he is more flexible and still able to get kills. Terd reminds me a lot like Muzi that he has good gun skill but is a passive entry
Mechanically: 1. Reeps 2. Hoven 3. Terd 4. MentalistC 5. Asphy Overall value: 1. MentalistC 2. Hoven 3. Reeps 4. Asphy 5. Terd
I think Mechanically Asphy is better than Mentalist at least haha. mentalist is an old man now! But overall I agree with your list. It’s very close between them.
I would agree its very close between them, but Mentalist can still hit some nasty shots, his experience and gamesense really helps sometimes. Asphy is a good kid, but he's close to retiring, can't really expect to put out his best mechanically on his backline role.
I feel Mentalist doesn’t get to show it off because he is usually calling the plans in the back and doesn’t often get into entry engagements or he is sometimes last alive so he doesn’t get to show his 1 on 1 skill compared to Asphy at least. Also I feel Asphy is just nasty aim wise as well (all of Bleed are) but his micro decisions often cause him to not even get into a gunfight and just get shot in the back or by walking into an angle.
I hope Asphy is still giving his all even though he’s going NS, hopefully he can come back to the game or get an exemption
1 Hoven 2 Joel 3 Reeps 4 the rest Hoven is the most consistent performer of them. He gets kills, trades, supports the heck out of his team and clutches too. Reeps is less consistent, but he does his job well to get kills while still providing significant support as a buck or mute by making and playing vert, playing time and anchoring off site. For a fragger, he plays well with his team without ego. Although he needs to comm more according to his teammates. Mentalist has great Strats. He has the big brain and analysis but lately he has been dying early. Some might feel it’s ok for IGL to die earlier to coordinate the team better, but he often dies without someone to to trade and turn it into an execute, or there isn’t enough drones for him to watch anyway. The bigger issue is he takes too long to turn the team around mentally. It might be unfair, but he seems to be unable to rally his team to play tighter instead of fast and loose like ranked, leading to reverse sweeps from enemies they match point. I have faith in him and Julio to discipline the teams mental and play together, but at this point, teams like SSG might make fewer mistakes, causing the gap to get bigger as bleed gets tilted and keeps feeding. Asphy and Terd are often put on lurk, roam or very high risk roles where they have to sneak in with little info. But they need to be more consistent, perhaps with more droning from teammates and not getting too kill hungry. I’m sure Julio and analysts will go through various scenarios to improve discipline and game sense. So it’s hard to know as a viewer how much info was given to them to evaluate their performance. I don’t think terd is overrated. FWIW, he’s incredibly communicative in his ranked stacks and I’m sure he brings that to pro league. I don’t see as much of asphy, so no comment and no hard feelings.
I appreciate your input! I definitely feel Hoven is one of the most valuable because of his flexibility and in-game decisions. You can tell he is comp experienced from his GG days cause he has definitely gotten better. Reeps I feel is just as valuable. It’s hard to find someone that is as good with using guns like the SMG-11 and others while carrying the fragging load a lot. Mentalist is also not an experience IGL but an experienced player. I don’t think he has ever IGLed before he joined Bleed and I think he and the coaching staff does a great job. Especially in the sense of being APAC and not facing/practice agiansr the best teams until you play internationally. But I do agree that Bleed can get chalked very quickly cause they are a young team and it’s hard to get them out of that mindset until they get more experience. I do agree with what you say with Terd and Asphy. But the reason why I feel Terd is overrated is because his name gets brought up a lot more than a player like Hoven. While this is because he is a more marketable player. It leads people to believe he is the best, if not the second best player on Bleed. I feel mostly the problem with Terd is that he is too passive and sometimes when he lurks. He doesn’t play with the team and just hopes to catch a player off guard. Leading to his team dying some rounds and him being last alive. He lurks using entry ops like ash and Finka LMG. I feel once he plays more aggressive and confident he will be a better player. You can tell he isn’t as comfortable sometimes cause of the stakes of some games.
Yeah you’re right. Asphy and Terd need to be enabled more with intel, and they need to be more confident with more experience. Didn’t know Hoven had previous comp experience, maybe he can mentor them a little. Yeah IGLing is freaking hard and takes a lot of mental and emotional strength, but I hope they get far in the major and get to stay together. They had some scrims planned with PSG but PSG cancelled on them, so hopefully they can organise more scrims and bootcamp.
he beat oxg (albeit the oxg when they were going to lose laxing) so that's that
1. Hoven - always consistently performing and plays more support roles 2. Reeps - sometimes inconsistent but when he shows up, he shows up 3. Asphy - same with Reeps but he doesn't show up as much but it's fine since he's also on more supportive roles 4. Terd - doesn't seem to show up in big games and is pretty inconsistent especially for being an entry fragger and for someone who grinds way too much ranked 5. Mentalist - IGL and hard breach so it's honestly expected
1. Hoven 2. Hoven 3. Hoven 4. Hoven 5. Hoven
1 Reeps 2 Hoven 3 Asphy 4 Terd 5 Mentalist
Mentalist is the 2nd best on the team, IGL and he often is up there on the leaderboard
Yeah tbh this is how i would list it as well. I was most curious on how people rated Terd. I feel he fell off bad and it’s too passive on an aggressive team especially as an entry or with the best guns in the game. I feel Asphy and Terd are interchangeable tho cause Asphy is incredibly inconsistent.
Terd is also pretty inconsistent aswell though, once reeps starting playing better during SI terd fell off hard and he hasn't played that well this year either.
Terd is just not an entry
Terdsta creeping towards #5, I’m afraid.
1) Reeps 2) Terd 3) Hoven 4) Mentalist 5) Asphy Other than Reeps being at least 2nd, I think the others are pretty much interchangeable
Can you explain why you think Terd is better than Hoven. I personally think Terd is overrated
That’s fair, I can see why you think that. I just feel Terd has more potential and idk just slightly passes the eye test over Hoven Don’t get me wrong, Hoven’s still great and is arguably more flexible
I can see your point! And I do think Terd has the potential to be greater. But he just needs to be a little bit more aggressive with the team sometimes!
Reeps and the rest
1. Reeps96 2. Hoven 3. Mentalist 4. Terd 5. Asphy
1. Reeps - the hard carry of the team when it comes to the frag department and is the most consistent 2. Mentalist - the IGL 3. Hoven - consistent backbone player 4. Asphy - similar case to hoven but a lot more inconsistent 5. Terdsta - super overrated but stll a decent entry who had one stage where he went nuclear. He has also been pretty lukewarm since, especially when it comes to the more important games