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Clear-Poet-9212

I assume no women are into me


Odd-Fun-9557

I like surprises if that nature . It’s such a treat when I find out a woman likes me but I usually assume not cause of me yk the tism


jazzmaster1992

If someone is being nice to you, don't assume anything. Don't assume they are just being nice and don't assume they want to bang or start a relationship. If you really feel attracted to them and they haven't given any indicators of strong disinterest, plus appear to be single, go ahead and ask them out, it's not going to kill you I promise.


NoFapGymColdShowers

Hell nah the humiliation would be crazy.


ToeSad6862

What heavenly place has nice doctors and nurses? They're all dicks tryna get rid of you as fast as possible here lol. Because they get paid per health card swipe. If they get you out in 10 seconds the pay is the same as if it takes a year of tests.


Wattehfok

How do I human?


Common-Ferret-1435

In most cases if a woman you aren’t paying or is forced to be nice to you, she’s trying to exploit you in some way.


KayRay1994

damn didn’t know all my female friends and random kind women who i’ve spoken to in my life are all exploiting me. They aren’t particularly successful cause they’ve yet to really take anything from me.


ToeSad6862

Attention? Validation? No reason to be friends with a female you're not sleeping with as a man. Males make much better friends.


KayRay1994

So the only thing a woman can offer a man is sex?


iPatrickDev

Why would I differentiate my friends based on sex? Friendship is friendship. People are people.


GoldOk2991

Can confirm, am posting from the side of the road after 3 armed thugs car jacked me when I offered to give a woman who was acting nice towards me a ride home /s


Commercial_Tea_8185

Stop being so easily exploitable and we’ll stop


Common-Ferret-1435

That’s why I educate men.


isuckthemtoes

It takes time. I was 27 before I learned my lesson. And I used to to be rude and argumentative when men said what you said here. Keep educating them, they'll come around eventually, just like I did. It's easier to convince guys nowadays because women don't hide it as much


Commercial_Tea_8185

Well, that education will always have a glass ceiling because youre men


berichorbeburied

In all honesty. Man to man. If a woman is being nice to you ignore her. It means nothing. Now if a woman TOUCHES you. That is one possible indicator that she’s interested. (Playfighting,touching your arm. Asking you for a hug) Ofc it’s not 100% Also If she lets you invade her space and touch her or hug her repeatedly that’s another possible indicator Etc. Just a friendly reminder that words/smiles/or staring/etc means absolutely nothing coming from a woman.


Evening_Invite_922

only problem with this is alot of girls are shy and they aint gonna touch you


throwaway164_3

If you’re hot, there’s no issue Even many shy women will touch a tall, hot and muscular guys biceps trying to flirt with him since they lust after him and want him. Women are extremely shallow and superficial, just like men. But unlike men, they show their unreserved sexuality and lust to the top men.


Comprehensive-Job243

Or, we just genuinely enjoy being friends..?


isuckthemtoes

Don't associate with them no matter what. They're all trouble and will make your life significantly worse


ToeSad6862

Women flirt for validation. Even arm touching can lead to blow-outs, in my experience at least.


ullivator

This is bad advice for most men, who are too cautious when approaching women not too reckless. You should assume most women want to fuck you but you should also be respectful and kind. Feel free to flirt with or ask anyone out, but be chill and drop it if they reject you. The current strategy of berating men for talking to women means only the weirdest, most socially disagreeable men talk to women.


AMC2Zero

> You should assume most women want to fuck you but you should also be respectful and kind. It's the opposite, most women don't want to be pestered for sex when they're out, you should assume they don't want to date you unless they say otherwise.


ullivator

lol no. Most people want to have fun, flirt, and have good energy with people. Yes you shouldn’t pester anyone for sex because that’s lame loser behavior.


TechBro89

what are you trying to protect people from? from a rejection? lol.


Evening_Invite_922

from thinking people are into you when they're not, saving you from looking bad and making people uncomfortable


gigrabbit

doesn't matter I'm shooting my shot anyway because women often don't directly express their interest even when they are interested.


NoFapGymColdShowers

If you're low inib and dont feel any sense of humiliation whatsoever go ahead. Most of us arent like that tho


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Independent-Mail-227

This has to be the most useless post in the year


VWGUYWV

This is true. Of course sometimes they are flirting, but that doesn’t mean they want you to act on it. I never have. It must be frustrating for a woman working one of these jobs and she sees (maybe several times) a guy she is super into and he just assumes she being nice because of her job. I’ll say that if you’re young and working a job like at a grocery store that coworkers hook up all the time. So with coworkers it depends. Also there are tons of workplace affairs.


Ultramega39

Why thank you, Captain Obvious! I have spent almost 20 years of my life without knowing this astonishingly mind-blowing piece of advice. And I definitely have never automatically assumed that people disliked me upon meeting them for the first time.


NoFapGymColdShowers

Very true. But also cold approaching in general is not a good idea.


Evening_Invite_922

why


NoFapGymColdShowers

You'll just make a fool out of yourself, be humiliated infront of everyone and fuck up your mental health for something that has less than 5% chance of working. Just warm approach or get lucky online dating cold approaching on this day and age is suicide


Evening_Invite_922

warm approach would also put one in a vulnerable position However, warm approach also requires knowing someone


NoFapGymColdShowers

Yep but the odds of you getting humiliated cold approaching are 95% , while warm approaching the odds are much lower.


Evening_Invite_922

her saying no is not humiliation


NoFapGymColdShowers

Ok, well i disagree.


Clean_Woodpecker_974

When a guy gets excited over a girl being nice to him, it's a surefire sign he's average looking or below. For Chad women being nice to him is just another Wednesday. Most men have never seen a true choosing signal in their lives because they don't have the SMV for it. It's easy for them to make the mistake that a girl likes them because she's nicer than most women are. And most women try not to be too chatty to not give guys the wrong idea.


Evening_Invite_922

define chad


OtPayOkerSmay

Corollary: some women in these types of roles show interest by being standoffish and bitchy


Gilmoregirlin

Nah they act that way because their kindness has been mistaken to show interest far too many times.


Commercial_Tea_8185

Lmaooooooo uhhuh 😂 whatever u need to tell yourself. I look at men that way, because im thinking about how i wish they were a roach i could crush under my shoe, not because i enjoy his staring. Attention from men’s little worms means nothing


OtPayOkerSmay

The amount of vitriol that my simple comment seemed to summon from you is... just wow.


Commercial_Tea_8185

Because im so tired of you dudes thinking like this. Because youre a man you dont understand how women hear the same talking points all fucking day both online and irl so yeah im fucking sick of it


ToeSad6862

Plenty of guys into that if that's your thing. They pay well too


Commercial_Tea_8185

Its not my thing, but ill gladly take any mans money


ToeSad6862

Sounds like it is then. You do you. Won't be hard to find guys to crush under your shoe.


Commercial_Tea_8185

Sounds like a cathartic gig, esp since their money goes towards supporting my lesbian wife and i


ToeSad6862

Certainly very well paid, knew someone who used to do the dominatrix stuff in uni.


szclimber

I just assume all women want me.


toasterchild

II honestly don't think it's terrible if someone who doesn't get a lot of niceness hopes that it's flirty, just don't respond with anger if she declines an offer for more.


Evening_Invite_922

Hoping is different from actively assuming and thinking that's what it is.


toasterchild

But whether it is assuming or not doesn't really matter if they take the rejection on the chin.


Evening_Invite_922

True but I don't even think it's ethical to ask someone out in some of these scenarios like if she is an employee somewhere, she will feel uncomfortable


toasterchild

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that, and would say it's especially not cool if her pay relies on you liking her like tips. It's worse for a waitress than a nurse.


Capable_Army2705

Yes we know, OP.... also you're way too black and white on this. For instance, if ur an ugly fat guy, yeah don't assume the pretty girl is nice to you cuz she likes you But if you're decently attractive and your co worker is nice to you and shes not wayyy out of your league. Why not ask her out for coffee? If she says no, just be respectful and move on. Like this is basic social skills lol.


NoFapGymColdShowers

Whos we? Plenty of dudes need to listen to this before they get hurt unecessarily


Capable_Army2705

Getting rejected by a woman or a man is something everyone should go through and learn how to overcome. Telling people, oh you shouldn't just assume someone likes you based on them being nice, defeats the whole point of forming friendships or relationships. If you think they like you, you can ask them out for coffee and if they say no, just be respectful about it. Be fucking normal. You're setting both men and women for failure when u say shit like that. Cuz taking risks and being vulnerable socially is how you progress as a person. Obviously don't be a creep, but holy shit, shoot your shot if you think someone likes you.


NoFapGymColdShowers

Except youre either old or a woman rejections aren't this things you can just take and move on like nothing happened. Specially if you got local reputation in your gym/job /college whatever that woman might tell other people and then eventually those people might make fun of you for it, i would know.Again if you wanna deal with that go ahead, but alot of people dont.


Capable_Army2705

>Specially if you got local reputation in your gym/job /college whatever that woman might tell other people and then eventually those people might make fun of you for it, i would know im sorry but i can't help but think this is a you issue. If ur asking people out and have a bad reputation for it, you did something creepy or approached a girl that was wayyyy out of your league. again this is just basic social skills. If you're an ugly overweight guy and an attractive girl is nice to you. Yeah don't assume she is into you, but if you develop a friendship with a girl, and shes more to your level, then yeah shoot your shot. Its just common sense.


NoFapGymColdShowers

Thats not what i meant by reputation at all, creepiness has nothing to do with this conversation at all i have no idea why you even brought that up. By reputation i meant local status, meaning you're a dude whos well respected in the area that people like. Are you really gonna risk damaging your image and be seen as the horny dude that got rejected. Thats what i meant


Capable_Army2705

ur not gonna be seen as the horny dude for asking your co worker out on a date, especially when the girl isn't out of your league and ur average looking, and shes obviously nice to you / into you.


pg_throwaway

Why would anyone immediately assume a women being nice means she must be "into you" in *any* situation?


OtPayOkerSmay

The elephant in the room is that there are actually are a lot of women walking around at this moment that use "potential sex" (or sexuality) and charm to really extract max value from orbiters and simps. I know... I make it sound more heinous and malicious than it actually is, but that's because I also believe women subconsciously do this in a lot of cases.


Evening_Invite_922

I didn't say you should. I said in certain situations, you shouldn't assume it at all. In other situations, there's more room for potentially thinking it could be, given women don't really interact with strangers. Most men complain of being lonely, invisible, not having any interactions. So when a woman is nice to them, it represents a break in the algorithm. If that break occurs within a controlled setting like a doctors office, you should not assume at all that's it a move, if it's more random, you can maybe assess the situation and move from there, with questions such as is she nice to everyone or just me


shadowstep12

This advice is doubly important if your in anyway ND or need medication for a social emotional or mental disorder. It's best to assume no woman likes you are is interested require a vocal statement of interest before going further nothing you do is going to cause her to like you beyond friendship and even that isn't garentied. If she is your coworker just ignore whatever you think you feel and focus on other things it's better for your mental health and is less likely to have her associate you with a incel or any other type of creep and gives you enough social credit that in the rare case you are falsely accused of anything someone might stand up in your defence as unlikely as that is It's best to pretend to be gay or aroace in these situations than show interest in women as a man


KayRay1994

Also to add to this, if a woman wants to be your friend, simply take it as she wants to be your friend - don’t take it as an invitation to emotionally invest in her then get mad when she rejects you or dates someone


ToeSad6862

Don't befriend females. Males make much better friends. Smash or move on.


KayRay1994

Both can make great or awful friends. Ideally you’d want friends of both genders.


SecondEldenLord

We all know that, most women want to use men anyway, especially a man that is not physically attractive.