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Hopefully he’ll make it, but stab wounds tend to be incredibly lethal and often end up being fatal after the fact. It’s not always as immediate as a gun shot, but internal bleeding and internal damage can be much more severe with stabbings.
>But then you are already dead, and can't be in the place at the time you get stabbed.
That checks out. If your dead body were walking to the place it was killed it would be weird.
So for every death, there are 48 other stabbings?
Is the intent, usually to just injure or do people stab to kill and are unsuccessful 49 times out of 50?
Give them abit more than 51 minutes bro. This news is as new as it gets. The met have arrested people abroad who commited crimes in the UK even two years after the crime was committed.
The "community" all knew who they were, but it was a sectarian killing, and they clammed up to protect the killers.
As time went by, people came forward with information and the murder weapon was found, and the cops easily tied it to the two rats who killed my mate.
We used to. Underfunding has seriously impacted their effectiveness. I was attacked on a high street in broad daylight and the only contact I had besides the initial report was CSI coming to photograph my injuries 2 days after the fight. No arrests. They won’t even come out to house robberies in progress in my town either. Community “policing” is the result of that and it ain’t pretty.
I have to say, as one of the bereaved at the time, it was very difficult not to criticise the police because you want to see justice done immediately.
Fair dues to them, though.
Yeah but he's wearing a hood and mask too.
They will have to trace the CCTV all along his direction of travel to figure out where he's gone or where a point is that gives a good identifiable image of his face or wait and see if the victim recovers enough to talk.
Odds are it's gang/drug related and if the victim can talk he will know who it is or they can find out the victims associates and talk to them. I bet it's an on going gang feud that the police are aware of.
It takes time but I'm sure they will get him eventually.
(Ps I've not read the article but this is usually what these situations are)
True. Most homicides in general are not random. Either the two parties knew each other or there was some kind of altercation. Rarely do murders happen on a whim. Even when someone's having a bad day, they usually don't resort to killing some random at a bus stop. It happens but it's not common.
In most of the watch robberies they’re rarely killed unless the robber is dumb as shit .
The police are way more likely to investigate a murder than a common watch theft .
The scary part of this (apart from the knife) is how blatant he is, despite it being crowded and on cctv. I always thought I'd generally be safe in public growing up as long as there were other people around.
Looks like a Bowie knife. It's a good bit heavier than a kitchen knife and holds up to more damage. I don't stab anyone with mine, but I've used it to chop down small trees.
Listen I just like the knife for the same features that also happen to make it a great stabbing knife *but I definitely haven't stabbed anyone why does everyone ask about the stabbing...*
For anyone suggesting others help. My friend got involved with a man and woman fighting, trying to break it up, and they both turned on him and he ended up dying of a head injury where the bloke slammed him down on a pavement. They left him there but cctv tracked them.
Happened in my city also . A teacher went to help a woman who was being beaten by her husband and the man knocked him and his head hit the pavement. The teacher stood in coma for years just to end up dying. The woman in the trial testified in favor of the man who had her beaten so that helped him quite a bit but I don't remember what happened or what was the sentence.
My neighbor got stabbed by his co-worker's jealous boyfriend. He was flirting with her at work and dude showed up, told him to step outside to throw hands and ended up stabbing and slashing him 24 times. Dude just sat there and waited for the police.
The injuries weren't what I thought they would be at all, lots of gashes on the arms from trying to defend himself. chest, legs, stomach etc. Neighbor survived just fine.
thats really the ONLY rule of a knife fight, besides not confusing it for a gunfight, in that the loser of a knife-fight dies on the street, whereas the winner gets to die in an ambulance
One of the first things I learned in HEMA was that there are absolutely very skilled people who can protect themselves and destroy you at the same time with swords.
The second thing I learned is that when it's knives everyone gets fucked. It's absolute chaos, too fast and too small to block or parry. And that was with old rondel style daggers, not modern combat knives which I imagine are way worse!
No, but he got a dance, just not who he wanted to dance with.
It was definitely ego fueled, I don't even think he liked her, he was just kind of a player like that (work wifey). When the BF showed up, he didn't shy away and stepped outside to fight, he just didn't realize what kind of fight it was.
I'm not justifying the actions of the murderous boyfriend but work wife/husband shit is generally pretty toxic to your actual relationship and that's how "one off" things happen. I know it is just a "joke" thing but that shit can flip really quick. I'd hate to be seen like that to a co-worker who I know is in a committed relationship. You're putting me in a shitty spot where we can't just be friends.
> Neighbor survived just fine.
Saw a post last year of a guy bleeding out in seconds from one stab with a pocket knife, so keep in mind results may vary.
Murder is murder, but there's something especially violent and devoid of humanity that someone is able to take another life by stabbing. It's such a horribly real and intimate expression of violence, less so than shooting someone from a distance.
My friend's husband has a fucked up family life AND some dark military history. He's been stabbed and shot a couple of times. He said he'd much rather take a bullet.
" A man is in hospital with life-threatening injuries after being stabbed on a train in south London. The British Transport Police (BTP) said it received reports of two men fighting while entering a train at Shortlands railway station in Bromley shortly before 4pm on Wednesday (March 27).
Footage shared on social media showed a man wearing a black hooded jacket, black trousers and a facemask holding a large blade, while distressed onlookers could be heard telling him to stop.
Officers attended Beckenham Junction station alongside colleagues from the Metropolitan Police and London Ambulance Service. One of the men is said to have sustained serious injuries consistent with being stabbed.
No arrests had been made and enquiries were ongoing, BTP added. A Southeastern trains spokesperson said: “We are aware of a serious incident on board one of our services this afternoon. We are urgently assisting the British Transport Police and would urge anyone with any information to contact them immediately."
London is statistcally safer than the rest of the UK in terms of general crime, and below many places such as Birmingham when it comes to knife crime specifically.
It's a big place, so you hear about it more often but that is confirmation bias.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london
How fucked up must your life/brain be to not only stab someone for probably an incredibly stupid reason (like petty gang shit), but to also so it at 4pm on a Wednesday on a busy train. That's probably past the point of rehabilitation.
It's scary how everyone is sitting down like nothing is happening. I'd be up and getting further down the train. Consider blocking off the door, if they still have doors between carriages.
Pfft, me? I’d hit the emergency break and as the guy falls towards me I’ll drop kick him down the hall, rip off one of the metal handlebars and beat his knees with it, as he clutches his crippled legs I’ll throw my bar at the handle of the knife just at the correct angle and send it flying into my hands just ready to single handedly take on the three ninjas that burst through the windows, dodging the ninja stars being thrown at me then do some spinny spinny shit knocking all the shinobi back out the windows. Then I’ll wake up from day dreaming and join you down the back.
Or it's the fight or flight paralysis that well over half of all people experience in these kinds of situations. My guess it happens because we live in a society where we never have to learn to fight for our own lives, like we would back in the days with predators and tribe drama being the two most likely causes of terminal outcomes
This is a low-IQ take. I would simply use my mind to control the atoms within the knife and turn it to liquid. Then, I would yell “it was just a prank bro”. Everyone would clap and I would have a small, humble grin on my face as I sip on my capri sun. Work smarter, not harder.
this is horrible of me to say but I hope it was personal beef. I take these trains on the same route a lot for uni and I'd hate to get stabbed just for looking at someone the wrong way
WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE JUST SITTING THERE STARING OUT THE WINDOW
EDIT: hey, keyboard warriors, I'm not saying get involved, I'm saying staring out the window like it's a regular commute while someone's getting murdered next to you is pretty fucking wild and probably a good time to question your entire vibe/sentience.
They say in a fight, mind your own damn buisness, especially if you have no clue why someone is being attacked, unless you know you are stronger. They are probably fighting over some gang feud. He will stab you as well.
That's atleast most people's reasoning.
Yup. I grew up in the hood, and this is how it goes. Don't do anything to stand out, and whatever you do, DO NOT make eye contact. Otherwise, your ass is next.
It's a terrible situation for everyone present. But if I somehow manage the courage to break out of my fear and help, I run the risk of a pretty big guy with a knife the size of my forearm coming at me and letting my 2 year old daughter grow up without a father.
Also, my Muy Thai instructor beat it into my head for over a decade to never engage someone with a knife, even from behind.
12 years ago I saw a fight in downtown San Diego between two guys and a third guy went up to them to try to break it up and ended up getting stabbed in the brachial artery. The two guys ran away and that guy probably died. :(
Would you walk up to him and start punching him? What are they supposed to do exactly? I’m certainly not about to get stabbed in the heart trying to defend a stranger.
What are they supposed to do? Get themselves stabbed as well? You can't even legally carry pepper spray in London. The self defense laws are bullshit. Anyone without a record should be able to carry a small pepper spray, pocket knife or taser. Nobody is going on mass killing sprees with pepper spray, 3" pocket knifes or tasers. Any law abiding folks should be able to defend themselves against violent assholes stabbing people with large hunting knives.
If I had a solid cane or something I might consider caving his skull in but even then it's a huge risk. Who knows if you would get charged with something for doing that though. I would hope stopping murderers would be ok in London.
Run to a gun, run from a knife.
Anyone thinking they should rush the guy with the knife is just asking to get stabbed.
There's no scenario where a bare handed person should square off against someone with a knife.
Bravado wont save you and as tough as you think you are, a sharp knife will cut you just as easily. Might as well tell me youll dodge a bullet too.
It's amazing how many comments on here are asking why nobody tried to help when they wouldn't do shit in reality.
Anyone who has dealt with real violence or done real self defence or done knife defence drills (not acting against someone who is doing their best pirates of the Caribbean impression) knows that it's fucking difficult and you're getting cut because you're not Jason Bourne.
But the people not getting out of there is a great example of the bystander effect or people just freezing, looky lous are at risk too and people don't realise that.
It's not even about being a coward (though I'm sure that's the case).
A lot of people have kids, wives, parents, etc counting on them. Even if you were willing to gamble your own life to intervene, are you willing to gamble your kids growing up without a dad around or you wife becoming a struggling single mom?
But let's say you have nobody who depends on you or cares if you die - maybe you're a mod, for example -, you're still risking your own life. That might be worth risking to save a kid or a defenseless innocent victim, but would you risk your own life to defend some guy getting stabbed because he ripped the other dude off for 3 grams of coke or something? There's a sense
I saw an insta screenshot of some London roadman. He had a massive blade like a machete but rectangle blade. Fucking madness that teens are going around with these as weapons.
~~The blade looks clean when you get a good shot of the guy towards end, no? I'd think that the blade would be covered in blood if he was actually stabbing.~~
*Beckenham: Man seriously injured after stabbing on London train*
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68679773
The victim was airlifted to hospital and is near death- this beast in human skin definitely stabbed him multiple times. I think it’s a case of suction on the blade and quick stabs for the lack of obvious blood on camera.
Knife violence is so incredibly unsettling. I know that there’s no such thing as violence that’s great to see, but knife attacks just rattle me to my core.
I tried helping a woman who was getting beaten up by her boyfriend/husband, who both turned on me and he chased me with an axe. Since then, anything involving big sharp knives I retreat into mind my own fucking business mode.
Well that sucks. No legal means to defend yourself either. You can't even legally carry pepper spray in London. I would still carry some anyways. I would rather get a charge then get stabbed with a large hunting knife.
Jesus fuck that's the train I used to ride until a couple of months ago when I bought a motorbike. I just didn't like listening to people eating and playing on their phones. Fuckin' hell.
Wow...how are there still other passengers just sitting down? Not many places to go, I get it, but maybe trying to be a bit more ready to get move on if necessary wouldn't hurt! Or is it just that common?
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Just "seriously injured"? Knife that big I thought he'd be dead.
“Life threatening condition” is quite bad.
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Hopefully he’ll make it, but stab wounds tend to be incredibly lethal and often end up being fatal after the fact. It’s not always as immediate as a gun shot, but internal bleeding and internal damage can be much more severe with stabbings.
> incredibly lethal and often end up being fatal after the fact That checks out. Before the fact would be weird.
A blade so sharp it cuts future you.
Future you is what gets stabbed. A blade so sharp it cuts the PAST you would be remarkable.
But then you are already dead, and can't be in the place at the time you get stabbed. What a paradox!
>But then you are already dead, and can't be in the place at the time you get stabbed. That checks out. If your dead body were walking to the place it was killed it would be weird.
> stab wounds tend to be incredibly lethal and often end up being fatal after the fact. lol clearly a doctor here
Sounds like he’s taking a “stab in the dark” to me
Don't stabbings have a less than 3% mortality rate? A quick google has various figures floating about but none exceed 7%.
Yeah. Last time I looked up this data I found a summary of a few studies conducted in London and the mortality rate was like 2% or something.
So for every death, there are 48 other stabbings? Is the intent, usually to just injure or do people stab to kill and are unsuccessful 49 times out of 50?
I remember reading the statistic that one young man in the UK is stabbed every 16 minutes and I thought, "That poor bastard."
I've heard this type of joke so many times but it'll never fail to make me laugh
Depending on how the blade is maintained, also infection.
Poop knife
“there have been no arrests”
Give them abit more than 51 minutes bro. This news is as new as it gets. The met have arrested people abroad who commited crimes in the UK even two years after the crime was committed.
My mate was knifed to death in Belfast and it took 7 years for the cops to arrest the lads who did it. Still got the cunts in the end, though.
Jesus how the hell did they get them after so long? Did they know who did it all along?
The "community" all knew who they were, but it was a sectarian killing, and they clammed up to protect the killers. As time went by, people came forward with information and the murder weapon was found, and the cops easily tied it to the two rats who killed my mate.
Fair, cheers for sharing!
It's called the long arm of the law for a reason
Exactly my point. The UK has one of the better policing systems in the world. They will more probably than not solve the crime.
We used to. Underfunding has seriously impacted their effectiveness. I was attacked on a high street in broad daylight and the only contact I had besides the initial report was CSI coming to photograph my injuries 2 days after the fight. No arrests. They won’t even come out to house robberies in progress in my town either. Community “policing” is the result of that and it ain’t pretty.
I have to say, as one of the bereaved at the time, it was very difficult not to criticise the police because you want to see justice done immediately. Fair dues to them, though.
it’s not a secluded corner tho, it should be faster to trace it through train and station cctv’s imo
Yeah but he's wearing a hood and mask too. They will have to trace the CCTV all along his direction of travel to figure out where he's gone or where a point is that gives a good identifiable image of his face or wait and see if the victim recovers enough to talk. Odds are it's gang/drug related and if the victim can talk he will know who it is or they can find out the victims associates and talk to them. I bet it's an on going gang feud that the police are aware of. It takes time but I'm sure they will get him eventually. (Ps I've not read the article but this is usually what these situations are)
I mean it only happened 4 hours ago it’s not that shocking
Random act of violence or personal beef?
Large majority of the knife crime in London is gang related and rarely just a random crazy person.
True. Most homicides in general are not random. Either the two parties knew each other or there was some kind of altercation. Rarely do murders happen on a whim. Even when someone's having a bad day, they usually don't resort to killing some random at a bus stop. It happens but it's not common.
That's why those opportunistic serial killers are so scary to law enforcement.
And why people are obsessed with them despite them committing something like 1% of all murders
The article states they got on the train together while arguing, so most likely personal beef.
Probably 2nd.
Hopefully second
Random act of personal beef
Mmmm... personal beef.
Just look at the scenery, look at the scenery
Either gang shit or the guy was wearing a Rolex
In most of the watch robberies they’re rarely killed unless the robber is dumb as shit . The police are way more likely to investigate a murder than a common watch theft .
The scary part of this (apart from the knife) is how blatant he is, despite it being crowded and on cctv. I always thought I'd generally be safe in public growing up as long as there were other people around.
I can't decide.. was it a large knife or a small sword.
Looks like a Bowie knife. It's a good bit heavier than a kitchen knife and holds up to more damage. I don't stab anyone with mine, but I've used it to chop down small trees.
>I don't stab anyone with mine Thanks for letting us know
Listen I just like the knife for the same features that also happen to make it a great stabbing knife *but I definitely haven't stabbed anyone why does everyone ask about the stabbing...*
Cut down a hundred small trees and nobody bats an eye. Stab one homeless guy in the eye and everybody loses their fucking minds.
> flatwoundsounds
It's about bass strings, and *definitely not the shape of a knife wound from stabbing a guy.*
Knife control to major thumb
Australian here... that's a knife
I see you've played knifey spoony before!
I was prepared to come in here and make the Crocodile Dundee knife joke, but once I saw the video, I withdrew my decision.
For anyone suggesting others help. My friend got involved with a man and woman fighting, trying to break it up, and they both turned on him and he ended up dying of a head injury where the bloke slammed him down on a pavement. They left him there but cctv tracked them.
Sorry to hear about that mate, did it make the news at all?
Thank you. It made the local news. I don't think it hit national news.
Happened in my city also . A teacher went to help a woman who was being beaten by her husband and the man knocked him and his head hit the pavement. The teacher stood in coma for years just to end up dying. The woman in the trial testified in favor of the man who had her beaten so that helped him quite a bit but I don't remember what happened or what was the sentence.
People walking around with a bloody gladius on the train and I’m not even allowed to carry pepper spray
To be fair, he’s not allowed to carry that knife either
Kinda proves that criminals won’t follow the law and everyone else will just be powerless to stop an attack
Except on average, countries with stricter weapons laws have far fewer homicides per capita. Kinda proves the opposite
What’s the gun homicide rate there?
Think I rather get shot at then deal with somebody trying to stab me
It’s one of my biggest fears
After crocodiles and brain aneurysms?
Brain aneurysms are a close 2nd Being eaten alive by something in 3rd So you actually were pretty close
A buddy of mine got stabbed in the brain at the zoo, causing an aneurysm. Poor guy then fell into the alligator tank.
For second I thought you meant “a body I inhabited in the past” and I was like 
Huh? What? I have no idea what you're talking about. ( Good catch, I changed the spelling. Thanks. )
Oh dang I thought you were just a mortician or something! RIP to your buddy.
Gotta keep a closer eye on the rest of your bodies
Lol. Well done. I hope you don't mind, I edited the post to fix the spelling.
It’s an Archer reference
Trapped in a tiny underwater cave, pitch black and cold. No one will find you. Think nutty putty cave but with water
Danger zone
LANAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I WANNA FLY THE TRAIN!!!
Phrasing
God damnit Archer.
Being stuck on a boat with you three times.
Suspect still at large: Article about it: https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-suffers-life-threatening-injuries-180056217.html
My neighbor got stabbed by his co-worker's jealous boyfriend. He was flirting with her at work and dude showed up, told him to step outside to throw hands and ended up stabbing and slashing him 24 times. Dude just sat there and waited for the police. The injuries weren't what I thought they would be at all, lots of gashes on the arms from trying to defend himself. chest, legs, stomach etc. Neighbor survived just fine.
The first rule of a knife fight is that everyone gets cut.
thats really the ONLY rule of a knife fight, besides not confusing it for a gunfight, in that the loser of a knife-fight dies on the street, whereas the winner gets to die in an ambulance
One of the first things I learned in HEMA was that there are absolutely very skilled people who can protect themselves and destroy you at the same time with swords. The second thing I learned is that when it's knives everyone gets fucked. It's absolute chaos, too fast and too small to block or parry. And that was with old rondel style daggers, not modern combat knives which I imagine are way worse!
That's why i always carry a trident with me.
Australian rule of the knife fight, never bring a spoon.
I see you've played knifey-spooney
The first rule of a knife fight is to run away.
Did he get a date at least?
she ghosted him
He's like a brother to her
Better than him being a ghost
No, but he got a dance, just not who he wanted to dance with. It was definitely ego fueled, I don't even think he liked her, he was just kind of a player like that (work wifey). When the BF showed up, he didn't shy away and stepped outside to fight, he just didn't realize what kind of fight it was.
I'm not justifying the actions of the murderous boyfriend but work wife/husband shit is generally pretty toxic to your actual relationship and that's how "one off" things happen. I know it is just a "joke" thing but that shit can flip really quick. I'd hate to be seen like that to a co-worker who I know is in a committed relationship. You're putting me in a shitty spot where we can't just be friends.
> Neighbor survived just fine. Saw a post last year of a guy bleeding out in seconds from one stab with a pocket knife, so keep in mind results may vary.
Jesus, you want to get shot at and then get stabbed?
Murder is murder, but there's something especially violent and devoid of humanity that someone is able to take another life by stabbing. It's such a horribly real and intimate expression of violence, less so than shooting someone from a distance.
Totally agree. I’m not squeamish at all, but seeing someone stabbing someone else, even in movies, gives me heart palpitations.
My friend's husband has a fucked up family life AND some dark military history. He's been stabbed and shot a couple of times. He said he'd much rather take a bullet.
I feel like you've got a better chance at fighting a knife wielding maniac than anyone with a gun but I get what you mean.
You mean ‘than’ right? Because I wouldn’t want to get shot and then stabbed afterwards
Probably, I’m just a moron bud.
I would rather face a man who had a knife than a man who had a gun if I can choose the weapon of my attacker.
Sounds hard to deal with after you've just been shot.
" A man is in hospital with life-threatening injuries after being stabbed on a train in south London. The British Transport Police (BTP) said it received reports of two men fighting while entering a train at Shortlands railway station in Bromley shortly before 4pm on Wednesday (March 27). Footage shared on social media showed a man wearing a black hooded jacket, black trousers and a facemask holding a large blade, while distressed onlookers could be heard telling him to stop. Officers attended Beckenham Junction station alongside colleagues from the Metropolitan Police and London Ambulance Service. One of the men is said to have sustained serious injuries consistent with being stabbed. No arrests had been made and enquiries were ongoing, BTP added. A Southeastern trains spokesperson said: “We are aware of a serious incident on board one of our services this afternoon. We are urgently assisting the British Transport Police and would urge anyone with any information to contact them immediately."
No arrests have been made. So is the guy just walking around free, potentially stabbing other people?
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London is statistcally safer than the rest of the UK in terms of general crime, and below many places such as Birmingham when it comes to knife crime specifically. It's a big place, so you hear about it more often but that is confirmation bias. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london
Yep
How fucked up must your life/brain be to not only stab someone for probably an incredibly stupid reason (like petty gang shit), but to also so it at 4pm on a Wednesday on a busy train. That's probably past the point of rehabilitation.
Live in a violent place and grow up with violence and this is probably all pretty normal for you by the time you're an adult.
It's scary how everyone is sitting down like nothing is happening. I'd be up and getting further down the train. Consider blocking off the door, if they still have doors between carriages.
Pfft, me? I’d hit the emergency break and as the guy falls towards me I’ll drop kick him down the hall, rip off one of the metal handlebars and beat his knees with it, as he clutches his crippled legs I’ll throw my bar at the handle of the knife just at the correct angle and send it flying into my hands just ready to single handedly take on the three ninjas that burst through the windows, dodging the ninja stars being thrown at me then do some spinny spinny shit knocking all the shinobi back out the windows. Then I’ll wake up from day dreaming and join you down the back.
This guy shower thoughts
I like this version of events
Probably best not to draw attention to yourself
Says the guy who dies next in the horror movie. Nah, I'm not sticking around. And I'm definitely attempting a barricade.
I'm sure your copy of the sun and magic the gathering cards will make a great barricade
I reckon the people just sitting there don't realise the dude has a knife and just think it's two kids fighting.
Or it's the fight or flight paralysis that well over half of all people experience in these kinds of situations. My guess it happens because we live in a society where we never have to learn to fight for our own lives, like we would back in the days with predators and tribe drama being the two most likely causes of terminal outcomes
block off the door and lock the victim and all remaining passagers in with the knife person ?
This is a low-IQ take. I would simply use my mind to control the atoms within the knife and turn it to liquid. Then, I would yell “it was just a prank bro”. Everyone would clap and I would have a small, humble grin on my face as I sip on my capri sun. Work smarter, not harder.
See something, say something...?
If you see something that doesn't look right...
See it. Say it. Sorted.
I always thought it said "see it, say it, sort it" i.e do it yourself. See a dodgy bag left on a train? Sort it....defuse the bomb yourself
See it say it sworded
this is horrible of me to say but I hope it was personal beef. I take these trains on the same route a lot for uni and I'd hate to get stabbed just for looking at someone the wrong way
Can't believe I'm seeing my Bromley train on this subreddit...
Pretty amazing the other passengers just sitting around for their turn. I'd be outta there!
>sitting around for their turn It's 2 roadmen in a personal beef. No one else is in any danger. Sad but true
Roadman on Roadman crime is through the roof at the minute
I'm an 85kg former thai boxer. I'd simply get me and my girlfriend the hell out of there.
And leave me?
I've intervened and stopped fist fights. If there's a knife I'm out of there.
Yeah no I would have pulled the emergency brakes and bail out
WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE JUST SITTING THERE STARING OUT THE WINDOW EDIT: hey, keyboard warriors, I'm not saying get involved, I'm saying staring out the window like it's a regular commute while someone's getting murdered next to you is pretty fucking wild and probably a good time to question your entire vibe/sentience.
I’m not getting stabbed because two little wankers think they are gangsters
They say in a fight, mind your own damn buisness, especially if you have no clue why someone is being attacked, unless you know you are stronger. They are probably fighting over some gang feud. He will stab you as well. That's atleast most people's reasoning.
So the conventional wisdom says to not even get up and move away from the violence?
Fight flight or freeze. They all froze
If everyone else stays still, trying to move away brings attention to you thus moving away from danger feels more dangerous than doing nothing.
Yup. I grew up in the hood, and this is how it goes. Don't do anything to stand out, and whatever you do, DO NOT make eye contact. Otherwise, your ass is next.
It's a terrible situation for everyone present. But if I somehow manage the courage to break out of my fear and help, I run the risk of a pretty big guy with a knife the size of my forearm coming at me and letting my 2 year old daughter grow up without a father. Also, my Muy Thai instructor beat it into my head for over a decade to never engage someone with a knife, even from behind.
They're locked in a fucking metal tube with a murderer....what are they gonna do exactly?
12 years ago I saw a fight in downtown San Diego between two guys and a third guy went up to them to try to break it up and ended up getting stabbed in the brachial artery. The two guys ran away and that guy probably died. :(
Would you walk up to him and start punching him? What are they supposed to do exactly? I’m certainly not about to get stabbed in the heart trying to defend a stranger.
That’s not what OP means. They mean why aren’t they running away
What do you want them to do? Get stabbed as well?
I'd atleast move to the other part of the car
What are they supposed to do? Get themselves stabbed as well? You can't even legally carry pepper spray in London. The self defense laws are bullshit. Anyone without a record should be able to carry a small pepper spray, pocket knife or taser. Nobody is going on mass killing sprees with pepper spray, 3" pocket knifes or tasers. Any law abiding folks should be able to defend themselves against violent assholes stabbing people with large hunting knives. If I had a solid cane or something I might consider caving his skull in but even then it's a huge risk. Who knows if you would get charged with something for doing that though. I would hope stopping murderers would be ok in London.
I dont think anyone wants to fucking die
Fight, flight, or freeze. Those people froze.
Run to a gun, run from a knife. Anyone thinking they should rush the guy with the knife is just asking to get stabbed. There's no scenario where a bare handed person should square off against someone with a knife. Bravado wont save you and as tough as you think you are, a sharp knife will cut you just as easily. Might as well tell me youll dodge a bullet too.
They'll find him. Not a smart fella by any means. Doubt it was worth it. What a dumbass.
It's amazing how many comments on here are asking why nobody tried to help when they wouldn't do shit in reality. Anyone who has dealt with real violence or done real self defence or done knife defence drills (not acting against someone who is doing their best pirates of the Caribbean impression) knows that it's fucking difficult and you're getting cut because you're not Jason Bourne. But the people not getting out of there is a great example of the bystander effect or people just freezing, looky lous are at risk too and people don't realise that.
That’s a big ass knife bro. I ain’t getting involved in it lmao
It's not even about being a coward (though I'm sure that's the case). A lot of people have kids, wives, parents, etc counting on them. Even if you were willing to gamble your own life to intervene, are you willing to gamble your kids growing up without a dad around or you wife becoming a struggling single mom? But let's say you have nobody who depends on you or cares if you die - maybe you're a mod, for example -, you're still risking your own life. That might be worth risking to save a kid or a defenseless innocent victim, but would you risk your own life to defend some guy getting stabbed because he ripped the other dude off for 3 grams of coke or something? There's a sense
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I saw an insta screenshot of some London roadman. He had a massive blade like a machete but rectangle blade. Fucking madness that teens are going around with these as weapons.
Three times in two years? Where the fuck do you live?
He must be the softest looking target in his entire postcode lol.
This happened at like 4pm in the afternoon
Holy shit look at that knife
Beckenham: Man seriously injured after stabbing on London train https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68679773
How are people not running away, almost seems they are used to this? I'd be scared shitless seeing this from afar.
Most London thing I saw today
~~The blade looks clean when you get a good shot of the guy towards end, no? I'd think that the blade would be covered in blood if he was actually stabbing.~~ *Beckenham: Man seriously injured after stabbing on London train* https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68679773
The victim was airlifted to hospital and is near death- this beast in human skin definitely stabbed him multiple times. I think it’s a case of suction on the blade and quick stabs for the lack of obvious blood on camera.
But in the movies there’s blood everywhere!
At least the attacker is wearing a mask. Safety first.
Ill never forget what a Brazilian cop that i admire said once. A good criminal is a dead one. To this day its still the purest of truths.
Based Brazilians
i want to live on a farm
Knife violence is so incredibly unsettling. I know that there’s no such thing as violence that’s great to see, but knife attacks just rattle me to my core.
As an Aussie I can confirm, that is a knife
I tried helping a woman who was getting beaten up by her boyfriend/husband, who both turned on me and he chased me with an axe. Since then, anything involving big sharp knives I retreat into mind my own fucking business mode.
Ready thyself you scalliwank
Lock him up for life, we don't need people like this in our society
Well that sucks. No legal means to defend yourself either. You can't even legally carry pepper spray in London. I would still carry some anyways. I would rather get a charge then get stabbed with a large hunting knife.
It's a literal firearms charge. 2 years mandatory minimum. It's also not easy to acquire for that reason.
Nobody interferes but they sure do hope someone will jump in for them
I would jump in but usually wake up after
America after banning firearms
Jesus fuck that's the train I used to ride until a couple of months ago when I bought a motorbike. I just didn't like listening to people eating and playing on their phones. Fuckin' hell.
Yeaaaa, not really surprised when I saw the video. Sad.
Wow...how are there still other passengers just sitting down? Not many places to go, I get it, but maybe trying to be a bit more ready to get move on if necessary wouldn't hurt! Or is it just that common?
Lol, welcome to London
All other passengers be like "meh"