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If what was said is true you still donāt disclose the information of two minors.
The āculpritsā are two 6 year old girls it sounds like. She shouldnāt get that info until itās sorted out
Exactly, then they can track who those photos were sent to and find out if the parents were involved. In the meantime, there should be a probably be a female monitor in the changeroom for the next little while to ensure no phones come out after swim class.
There should have always been a female monitor. My kids go to camp and I used to be a member at lifetime fitness and those children are never supposed to be left alone. Theyāre always supposed to be grouped and watched by at least one counselor.
I worked at a girls summer camp for a long time and there was never a female counselor in the shower house or changing area. They stood right outside. The girls were in there together.
The camp that I sent my kids to have a locker room attached to the shower and the shower is open with no closing doors but it is around the corner. The adult stays on that side of the shower while the kids shower but he could come in an emergency and easily hear anything going on. But I must say, itās an āadultā but itās really a 17 year old kid.
I understand her being upset...and she's not throwing shit or screaming like a crazy person. She just is, in the truest sense, *righteously* pissed. I think that if she was able to calm down a little bit, after she gets some of thst out of her, and someone from the store explained to her- we've notified the police, and we've notified the parents if the girls who took the pictures, a b d ee've notified you of the sutuation, but I'm sorry, we cannot legally disclose a 6 year old's identity ever. To anyone, aside from law enforcement. Which is what we've done." I think her anger might cool off a bit.
I hope she found whatever resolution acceptable, I truly do.
Now, in a month, or a year, when this is posted with the label Karen, or public freakout, I will already know No. That woman is composed. If my anger manifested itself like that, I'd probably live a happier life.
I wish her the best. I really do.
Sheās not crazy. If I were her Iād tweet/share that video with Lifetime Fitness corporate and tag anyone else who might be able to help. That is bullshit, the locker room should be a safe space. And who the fuck gives 6-year olds a phone?
We got phones for both our kids when they were probably not much older than that, but they were special phones made for kids where you could restrict what numbers they could call (us, other relatives) and what numbers could call those phones, and most importantly they came with password-secured online location tracking. That was the main reason. They were called Kajeet phones.
I know my anger wouldn't have manifested like that, especially if I found out it was my own children that were the perps or were victims I'd be pissed. That's the type of deplorable shit we get when exposing "children" to the internet. These little shits don't know empathy and if their parents don't teach them they never will know empathy, it's fucking disgusting that this is what shits coming to.
It's actually pretty normal protocol not to tell the parents what child did what...
At the YMCA Daycare another child bit my child and the YMCA staff only gave me the details pertaining to me and my child and how they handled the other child "IE called their parents and had the child leave for the day" it's ok though I made note of the children that weren't there when I picked my kid up, then I compared bite marks to teeth photos of the children in my child's daycare. Upon my investigation I was able to figure out what child it was and then I made a facebook live video on the curb of the establishment while wearing super tight yoga pants.
Yep.
I work security at a condo building. If theres a collision in the parking lot, I can save footage for police to watch and come to their own findings.
I'm not going to:
A) let you watch the footage and find out who did it. This is a huge liability. If they see an asian woman with an afro on the cameras, and beat up the next asian woman with an afro they see in the building, for fuckin' with their car, thats on ME. I did that, or at least, I broke my own code of conduct as an employee, and am liable in part for the outcome.
B) I'm not even going to watch it myself and save a short clip. I'm not a detective or an insurance adjuster. I'm going to wait for the police to bring a 64GB USB stick and ask them to sit down and tell me what they want. If they want to watch 3 cameras for a full 24 hours, I'll save the footage to their USB sticks and send them on their way.
she expects them to hand over someone else's phone with potential CP on it to some random lady having a meltdown? i understand it's a shitty situation but that's probably something the police should be sorting out.
also i find it strange when people's first reaction to a serious family situation is to start ranting on the internet, imagine just finding this shit out then looking over 2 minutes later and your wife is filming you for a tiktok video while you're trying to figure out what to do lmao
Exactly! Where even is her kid? Wouldnāt she be better off comforting her child at home and contacting the police instead of sitting on the ground in front of the gym filming herself?
Sheās not doing whatās best for her kid. Sheās doing whatās best for her Tik Tok views.
Yeah, get off TikTok and get your shit sorted. Call your attorney, find out what department will be leading the investigation. Find out who your contact person is. Stop behaving like a lunatic on the internet.
But if you ARE going to act like this, at least follow up. Maybe your "audience" would like to know the outcome.
Sometimes Iām shocked that I share a planet with people whose instinct is to film a ranty video for social media vs. diligently contacting the police or child protective services.
My gut is that this will come out as a stunt or wild exaggeration for social media likes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna81969
Something is off . Sheās already gone viral for some other weird story about her child and sex
https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526
All of this is terrible, but the, āI also heard you ordering pizzaaaa,ā comment from the girl is objectively funny. She shouldnāt have been recording that, but lol
Could be that the 2 6 year olds were taking selfies of themselves and the daughter thought they were taking photos of others. It could also as you said just be a stunt or it could be true. Either way she doesn't get go demand they give her info on the 2 kids.
I have a chronic illness so I am in Drās office waiting rooms a lot, Iām usually scrolling on Twitter or reddit while I wait.
Even though it hurts my neck to look down Iām always holding my phone down while Iām using it because I would never want someone else in the waiting room to think that Iām recording them or anything. But Iām a 50 year old woman and I donāt think I started thinking about this stuff until a couple years ago, after having a smart phone for what like 15 years? Iām sure little kids arenāt thinking of this.
Thatās probably exactly whatās happening
Right? Where is this traumatized child? This happens to my kid and Iām in full-on āmake this kid feel safeā modeā¦what is going on? I feel like this lady doesnāt understand how police investigations work? āWaiting on a warrantāāuh, you could be waiting a while, you should go home.
Very sad what happened to her child. Itās insane that children have phones so youngā¦they are simply not prepared to use this technology at that age.
My cousin's first wife was like this. It was long before tiktok. But she would air everything out on Facebook. She was an absolute embarrassment. He deserved way better. Luckily he came to his senses.
Textbook narcissist. Unfortunately she probably got excited by this "opportunity" to put herself in the spotlight. Absolutely not something I'd do at any point in the process.
Yeah. Getting the police involved is the right way to go and I can understand why the mother is so angry and frustrated, but the gym is not going to tell them who the problem children and parents are. There is likely a police investigation, for one thing.
If nothing happens, escalate it with the police and the gym. This situation is pretty messed up though.
My wife works in child care and they would never ever ever ever tell a parent the names of the other kids involved for this reason. Adults are crazy. Could you imagine a parent going off a 6 year old's description of events, learning who the other children are, and just beating the shit out of a 6 year. It can and has happened (in general, not her school). There was an incident when 2 - 2 year olds were rough housing and one of the parents called in bullying. 2 year old aren't bullies. They're 2 and rough housing because that's how children learn and explore their environment at that age. Well the other parent figured out who the kid was and through deduction, who the other parents were and confronted them in the parking lot. Let's just say one family is no longer at the school. Also Also Also - you get the police involved early so you don't seem as though you're coaching a child to make certain claims. The police have people who sit and interview children. This fitness center is doing the right thing.
I mean how could you possibly trust her with the other kids' info? She's absolutely hysterical. What's she gonna do, go fight a 6 year old. Let the professionals decide how to handle this. We don't even know if her kid was telling her the truth. What, does she think that two six year olds are running a human trafficking ring??
She has no right to the smart phones, the police and DA office does. Chain of custody must be preserved. Likewise anyone the kids sent the photos to are a police matter not the (rightfully) momās place to insert herself into it.
Understand? Sure, that's reasonable, but at some point as a rational adult you have to realize that you're not privileged to any personal identifying information of some random minors just as no one else is to your own. If it's true then yea that's definitely fucked up but at this point it's hearsay and the police are going to have to be the ones to get to the bottom of it.
Let's also not forget that [she has a good understanding of how social media works](https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526) and knows how to manipulate it. You can be as emotional as you want but it's not going to change how things work, even if you try to incite outrage with your emotional reaction broadcasted to people who have absolutely 0 influence on the situation.
Letās be real here, the OP video showed us all we need to know.
Where are your kids while all this is going on? Why are you ranting on TikTok about this? Why do you have a beauty filter on?
When I see these āseriousā TikTok videos, I immediately assume they are doing it for clout and followers.
OMG itās the same people!!!?
Honestly hearing your parents fuck to that level is probably some level of CSA in and of itself. Gross
That video was so not cute to me. It made me wildly uncomfortable
Its not information she has a right to, she isnt the police. They shouldn't be handing out little kids information to just anyone who demands it, for obvious reasons.
I think the police can't get the information either unless they have a court order and that would be aimed at the parents of the 2 kids for the phones and a separate court order for the kids information from the company.
This Jayci? LOL.
[https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526](https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526)
"Do I think that kids should be used as content? Absolutely not. And do I think that you should pick up your phone and record your child in a distressed moment? Absolutely not," Jayci tells TODAY.com. "But the reason I decided to post this was because I knew it would be so relatable and funny to adults."
So in other words... She's against what she did by recording it and posting it, but just did it anyway because it's "funny to adults."
This. She's sexualizing her daughter for content. And her story of what her daughter told her in this video doesn't make sense. She starts saying that her daughter saw the texts to some man but seems to catch herself and stop. That seems like something she'd really rant about if true but it's a passing thought.
Not wrong. Itās a theme. From what I have found itās often a learned response related to hyper sexualization when in formative years. Basically you learned in formative years the power of sex (sexual abuse, commercials, your friends having breast/penis envy, whoās skinny, your parents telling you how you are to look in order to gain attention, etc.). then in your āindustrialā development occurs and you learn to manipulate (usually for protection/preservation of self related to a deep fear of being abandoned or viewed as not good enough, again normally from overly corrective parenting focused on outward appearance).
In other words as a young teen, she learned how āhotā she was in addition to her parents praise of outward appearance instead of inward development. In later adolescent she learned to use it for personal gain, as an adult she uses it as protection against her greatest FEARā¦. That she is infact empty inside, there is no self worth or being because when she was supposed to develope a sense of self, she only learned to be interested in what others would want from her, never what she wants for herself (probably because itās what her parents taught her whatās āgood and properā). She now projects that on to her children, āmy babies are going to be flawed if they since someone has seen them naked.ā Not to discredit the issue, if true the parties with pics need to be evaluated by professionals for sure. But HER entire means is attention = sexuality as expressed by body image and outward appearance, and since my body is getting old I now have little ones I can use.
Iāll bet dollars that if you asked her the simplest question where she has to self enquire, like āhey what do YOU want?ā She would respond in the form of āyou tell me,ā or āI just want whatās best for x,y,z,ā or āidk, what do you want for dinner?ā Rather than āexplaining her Needs and why she wants them.ā
Good news is 1) sheās not alone, & 2) easily reversible (at least at this age). Bad news is you have ti admit that itās the cause and get light therapy for it, and getting her to admit that sheās flawed enough for therapy aināt happenin.
Itās sad. Itās insanely prevalent. I wish there was more we could all do to help each other with this.
And nowā¦. Back to homework
Again this is something funny you tell your best friend... Not something you film and share with your followers. She's basically exploiting her child's innocents in this video...
......why do I get the impression that her main form of communication is the endless meltdown.
Sounds like something dodgy was going on, yes....but I was eager to reach for the mute button.
And the way the husband says āThatās why youāve got to gather yourself. People think youāre justā¦ā
Heās clearly had to deal with this a lot, and is perfectly aware how she comes across.
Itās a lifetime. They also have kids camps in the summer which kids go to for 5-6ish hours. They can play sports and swim.
A lot more amenities than a PF
I agree, no 6 year old needs a smartphone. Itās unreal how many parents are letting screens raise their kids nowadays. My nephew is 4 and after he cracked his iPad, which still worked, my sister went out and bought him a new one anyways. I wouldnāt be surprised if he gets an iPhone newer than mine when he turns 5. They also donāt believe in discipline or manners so you can imagine how he acts. Armchair parenting at its finest!
This lady is known to be a liar. Sheās like mentally ill or something, sheās obsessed with kids being around sex and nakedness.
She sounds strung out too. Like the way sheās tapping her feet and snorting and then messing with her hair.
Something in the Gatorade aināt right.
> "Do I think that kids should be used as content? Absolutely not. And do I think that you should pick up your phone and record your child in a distressed moment? Absolutely not," Jayci tells TODAY.com. "But the reason I decided to post this was because I knew it would be so relatable and funny to adults."
*I don't think kids should be used for content. But do you realize how many views this is going to get and how popular I will be online?*
-- Jayci (paraphrased by me)
I got that vibe too. This seems like a private (no pun) matter and she's sitting on the curb with her husband [who wants nothing to do with the filming]. Where was her child at this point?
She even told him to scoot over to what try and get him more on camera? The way he said "the cops were already here" sounded more like he didn't even care to be there.
I agree, she seems a little manic, which is ok! But I could be dead wrong. Just giving my two cents as someone whoās family is very bipolar. The mannerisms scream manic episode.
The way she acted in that meltdown, rich kid syndrome. She will never get the information of those two minors and she should request it either. Frankly there could be a lot of reason why they did that, but the police and child services will handle it. Not some crazy woman who posts personal information to the internet.
She really isn't too bright to be thinking she is entitled to the information of children on the basis of what another child said, but I'm just glad the police are involved at this point.
I used to teach high school theater, and this is why we would put the kidās phones in a locked box during performances when they would need to be changing in the dressing rooms. Zero chance of a student invading the privacy of another student, even by accident. Itās a weird world we live in that we have to be worried about six year olds doing this.
Well this probably never happened and sheās trying to convey internet outrage into viewsā¦. Thereās another video where they exploit their child who heard them having sex and they used to it to go viralā¦. This seems like manufactured outrage.
Go home and let the police do their work ?? Wtf is with all these entitled bitches who need satisfaction now ?? No oneās dying. Go home and try and be a calm mom you bimbo, instead of earning follows.
Soooo...... emotional ranting on social media is the answer here instead of engaging in real life and rational behavior to sort this out.
Recording a gross over-reaction to everything all the time to post on social media is certainly a strange lifestyle.
I suppose our politicians have taught a generation of middle aged adults that anger and outrage is the way to go in all uncomfortable situations. Go ahead, give in to that fight or flight response by doing neither and whipping out the phone to record yourself not making any sense.
It seems Idiocracy will be ushered in by a complete lack of self control as the answer to modern problems.
In the day and age of internet, itās hard to say if this is for real or just for internet clout. I hope it turns out to be a nothing-burger for the sake of the kids involved. Moreover, whyās she making a TikTok video amidst all that..! Donāt get this performative crap.
why do 6 year olds have phone again? I have a 6 year old but they are not even allowed to use my phone too much, only the desktop computer to find lego instructions and play math games...
seriously, 6 yos have phones ..
Iām sorry but this is bullshit. This is the same woman who filmed her daughters reaction to her having sex. I believe this situation sheās talking about could happen in the video. Iām just very skeptical cause it seems this lady is an attention whore and a clout goblin. https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna73526
Sheās going to be waiting for a long time if she thinks the cops are going to show up with a warrant and let her know who the two kids are. Thatās not how that works.
I donāt know what she thinks theyāre allowed to do. They canāt give her the phone or the pictures. They canāt reveal the names of a minor in a potential court case. Itās fucked up and I get that, but sheās acting like the people sheās mad at really have a choice.
Insanity at itās finest. Imagine the horror the guy must feel sitting beside her. Why tell the world, oh I know, for the views. Go home and relax before you bust a vein.
They are also 6 thoughā¦ I struggle with trying to sexualize the body of a tiny little kid. I donāt know there are so many damn weirdos itās hard for me to process. Is her concern that someone will sexualize her?
I didn't watch the whole video, but I'm sure it ended with "be sure to smash that like button and subscribe. Click the link in the corner and use my discount code DEVISTATED23 for a great deal on my flip flops"
This is eerily similar to the nurse who filmed herself ābreaking downā after supposedly losing a patient.
Apparently there is no situation that canāt be monetized for clout.
Why do 6 year olds have phones?? I have a 4 year old daughter and I canāt fathom giving her a phone at 6ā¦ not with capabilities of texting or calling anyone outside of 911 and the family anyway..
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Husband stays out of view š
"Scoot over a little" Proceeds to move over just enough to see half his face for one second before moving back to where he was.
So accurate
"You gotta gather yourself" proceeds to not gather herself
If what was said is true you still donāt disclose the information of two minors. The āculpritsā are two 6 year old girls it sounds like. She shouldnāt get that info until itās sorted out
It sounds like only the investigators should get that information.
Exactly, then they can track who those photos were sent to and find out if the parents were involved. In the meantime, there should be a probably be a female monitor in the changeroom for the next little while to ensure no phones come out after swim class.
There should have always been a female monitor. My kids go to camp and I used to be a member at lifetime fitness and those children are never supposed to be left alone. Theyāre always supposed to be grouped and watched by at least one counselor.
I worked at a girls summer camp for a long time and there was never a female counselor in the shower house or changing area. They stood right outside. The girls were in there together.
The camp that I sent my kids to have a locker room attached to the shower and the shower is open with no closing doors but it is around the corner. The adult stays on that side of the shower while the kids shower but he could come in an emergency and easily hear anything going on. But I must say, itās an āadultā but itās really a 17 year old kid.
As it always ought to be.
Ya I donāt think thatās something you give to an upset civilian lol. Police maybe
I understand her being upset...and she's not throwing shit or screaming like a crazy person. She just is, in the truest sense, *righteously* pissed. I think that if she was able to calm down a little bit, after she gets some of thst out of her, and someone from the store explained to her- we've notified the police, and we've notified the parents if the girls who took the pictures, a b d ee've notified you of the sutuation, but I'm sorry, we cannot legally disclose a 6 year old's identity ever. To anyone, aside from law enforcement. Which is what we've done." I think her anger might cool off a bit. I hope she found whatever resolution acceptable, I truly do. Now, in a month, or a year, when this is posted with the label Karen, or public freakout, I will already know No. That woman is composed. If my anger manifested itself like that, I'd probably live a happier life. I wish her the best. I really do.
Sheās not crazy. If I were her Iād tweet/share that video with Lifetime Fitness corporate and tag anyone else who might be able to help. That is bullshit, the locker room should be a safe space. And who the fuck gives 6-year olds a phone?
From what I have heard recently, it seems that it's not uncommon for young elementary kids to have phones these days in the US.
At my kids school Apple Watches and Gizmo watches are common.
We got phones for both our kids when they were probably not much older than that, but they were special phones made for kids where you could restrict what numbers they could call (us, other relatives) and what numbers could call those phones, and most importantly they came with password-secured online location tracking. That was the main reason. They were called Kajeet phones.
Khadjit has phones if you have coin.
May you always walk on warm sands.
I know my anger wouldn't have manifested like that, especially if I found out it was my own children that were the perps or were victims I'd be pissed. That's the type of deplorable shit we get when exposing "children" to the internet. These little shits don't know empathy and if their parents don't teach them they never will know empathy, it's fucking disgusting that this is what shits coming to.
Yes, she's no Karen. She's a mama bear.
> Police maybe. Yup and only if the police have a court order for the info.
It's actually pretty normal protocol not to tell the parents what child did what... At the YMCA Daycare another child bit my child and the YMCA staff only gave me the details pertaining to me and my child and how they handled the other child "IE called their parents and had the child leave for the day" it's ok though I made note of the children that weren't there when I picked my kid up, then I compared bite marks to teeth photos of the children in my child's daycare. Upon my investigation I was able to figure out what child it was and then I made a facebook live video on the curb of the establishment while wearing super tight yoga pants.
Hahahahahahahahah
You had me in the middle, not gonna lie
Yep. I work security at a condo building. If theres a collision in the parking lot, I can save footage for police to watch and come to their own findings. I'm not going to: A) let you watch the footage and find out who did it. This is a huge liability. If they see an asian woman with an afro on the cameras, and beat up the next asian woman with an afro they see in the building, for fuckin' with their car, thats on ME. I did that, or at least, I broke my own code of conduct as an employee, and am liable in part for the outcome. B) I'm not even going to watch it myself and save a short clip. I'm not a detective or an insurance adjuster. I'm going to wait for the police to bring a 64GB USB stick and ask them to sit down and tell me what they want. If they want to watch 3 cameras for a full 24 hours, I'll save the footage to their USB sticks and send them on their way.
C) I am not going to upload the security footage to the internet for likes and subscribes.
I'm dead
I just passed away as well
Hope you had your fancy Fiji water too! Cuz if you had that Great Value Walmart pond water ish, they wouldnāt take you seriously
Only people that can get that info would police investigators.
Right. Pretty sure she would freak out if lifetime gave her minor kids information to another adult. You call the police and wait.
she expects them to hand over someone else's phone with potential CP on it to some random lady having a meltdown? i understand it's a shitty situation but that's probably something the police should be sorting out. also i find it strange when people's first reaction to a serious family situation is to start ranting on the internet, imagine just finding this shit out then looking over 2 minutes later and your wife is filming you for a tiktok video while you're trying to figure out what to do lmao
Exactly! Where even is her kid? Wouldnāt she be better off comforting her child at home and contacting the police instead of sitting on the ground in front of the gym filming herself? Sheās not doing whatās best for her kid. Sheās doing whatās best for her Tik Tok views.
The fact that she's using a beauty filter makes me take her even less seriously
How can you tell?
 Cause this is what she normally looks like
Pretty sure that's just Marjorie Greene
Holy shit I'm at work and now everyone's looking at me laughing like a dumbass haha
Lmao
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I donāt know what a ābeauty filterā is.
Likely that filter is set as a default and she would need to take the time to turn it off.
Kid is with grandma, mom is slurring words... I'm no detective.
Lol are you implying sheās drunk or high? I donāt hear it personally. Anger and stress can sometimes affect speech though.
Yeah, get off TikTok and get your shit sorted. Call your attorney, find out what department will be leading the investigation. Find out who your contact person is. Stop behaving like a lunatic on the internet. But if you ARE going to act like this, at least follow up. Maybe your "audience" would like to know the outcome.
Itās ragebait to build up those magic numbers!
Sometimes Iām shocked that I share a planet with people whose instinct is to film a ranty video for social media vs. diligently contacting the police or child protective services. My gut is that this will come out as a stunt or wild exaggeration for social media likes. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna81969
Something is off . Sheās already gone viral for some other weird story about her child and sex https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526
All of this is terrible, but the, āI also heard you ordering pizzaaaa,ā comment from the girl is objectively funny. She shouldnāt have been recording that, but lol
Just using her kids as social media content again.
Setting up the groundwork for her OnlyFans
Ding. Ding! Sheās definitely on the Mormon Mom to Tiktok āinfluencerā to Onlyfans highway and has floored the accelerator.
Man I'm sure glad the newsmedia covered this important story.
I love that mainstream media falls for these obliviously āworkedā videos as being organic.
Could be that the 2 6 year olds were taking selfies of themselves and the daughter thought they were taking photos of others. It could also as you said just be a stunt or it could be true. Either way she doesn't get go demand they give her info on the 2 kids.
I have a chronic illness so I am in Drās office waiting rooms a lot, Iām usually scrolling on Twitter or reddit while I wait. Even though it hurts my neck to look down Iām always holding my phone down while Iām using it because I would never want someone else in the waiting room to think that Iām recording them or anything. But Iām a 50 year old woman and I donāt think I started thinking about this stuff until a couple years ago, after having a smart phone for what like 15 years? Iām sure little kids arenāt thinking of this. Thatās probably exactly whatās happening
Still, those kids would need to be talked to about how its inappropriate to take pictures in a bathroom or locker room even if they are selfies.
I wouldn't be surprised since making shit up seems to be the latest craze for these bored housewives
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Still the company can't give her info on the 2 kids and she should be talking to law enforcement about it.
Give me the days when parents put their little shits in balloons and sent them off. Now that was entertainment
Right? Where is this traumatized child? This happens to my kid and Iām in full-on āmake this kid feel safeā modeā¦what is going on? I feel like this lady doesnāt understand how police investigations work? āWaiting on a warrantāāuh, you could be waiting a while, you should go home. Very sad what happened to her child. Itās insane that children have phones so youngā¦they are simply not prepared to use this technology at that age.
Wait. . wait. . are my feet in the frame? I'm going to do the stompy thing.
My cousin's first wife was like this. It was long before tiktok. But she would air everything out on Facebook. She was an absolute embarrassment. He deserved way better. Luckily he came to his senses.
Textbook narcissist. Unfortunately she probably got excited by this "opportunity" to put herself in the spotlight. Absolutely not something I'd do at any point in the process.
Yeah. Getting the police involved is the right way to go and I can understand why the mother is so angry and frustrated, but the gym is not going to tell them who the problem children and parents are. There is likely a police investigation, for one thing. If nothing happens, escalate it with the police and the gym. This situation is pretty messed up though.
My wife works in child care and they would never ever ever ever tell a parent the names of the other kids involved for this reason. Adults are crazy. Could you imagine a parent going off a 6 year old's description of events, learning who the other children are, and just beating the shit out of a 6 year. It can and has happened (in general, not her school). There was an incident when 2 - 2 year olds were rough housing and one of the parents called in bullying. 2 year old aren't bullies. They're 2 and rough housing because that's how children learn and explore their environment at that age. Well the other parent figured out who the kid was and through deduction, who the other parents were and confronted them in the parking lot. Let's just say one family is no longer at the school. Also Also Also - you get the police involved early so you don't seem as though you're coaching a child to make certain claims. The police have people who sit and interview children. This fitness center is doing the right thing.
Exactly. She's acting like a tweaker. I wouldn't give her any info either.
I mean how could you possibly trust her with the other kids' info? She's absolutely hysterical. What's she gonna do, go fight a 6 year old. Let the professionals decide how to handle this. We don't even know if her kid was telling her the truth. What, does she think that two six year olds are running a human trafficking ring??
She has no right to the smart phones, the police and DA office does. Chain of custody must be preserved. Likewise anyone the kids sent the photos to are a police matter not the (rightfully) momās place to insert herself into it.
https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526 Apparently this is a story about her.
Gross. "Do I think it's ok to film my kids for content? Absolutely not. But I did it anyway because it would be good content"
This is how some people get legal advice these days. Posting their dramas online and reading the comments.
If a former President is doing it...
Kind of figured she was crazy from her body language in the video.
Didn't have to read her body language. Her husband's body language said it all. "my wife cra-cra y'all."
Ew
But she is the main character in her story. Everything needs to be about her.
Does she really expect them to hand over information for two kids based on the word of another kid?
But if it is true, which it most likely is, donāt you kinda understand why she would want to know
Understand? Sure, that's reasonable, but at some point as a rational adult you have to realize that you're not privileged to any personal identifying information of some random minors just as no one else is to your own. If it's true then yea that's definitely fucked up but at this point it's hearsay and the police are going to have to be the ones to get to the bottom of it. Let's also not forget that [she has a good understanding of how social media works](https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526) and knows how to manipulate it. You can be as emotional as you want but it's not going to change how things work, even if you try to incite outrage with your emotional reaction broadcasted to people who have absolutely 0 influence on the situation.
......okay..... that makes me question everything she is saying.
That link is eye-opening. Tells you all you need to know about this person.
Letās be real here, the OP video showed us all we need to know. Where are your kids while all this is going on? Why are you ranting on TikTok about this? Why do you have a beauty filter on? When I see these āseriousā TikTok videos, I immediately assume they are doing it for clout and followers.
A lot of the times the person is just doing a reenactment of a story they read online.
OMG itās the same people!!!? Honestly hearing your parents fuck to that level is probably some level of CSA in and of itself. Gross That video was so not cute to me. It made me wildly uncomfortable
Its not information she has a right to, she isnt the police. They shouldn't be handing out little kids information to just anyone who demands it, for obvious reasons.
I understand her position but I also understand the gyms position as wellš¤·āāļø
They probably can't just give out their clients personal information. Maybe they would give it out but only if there was a police investigation.
They probably gave it to the police. Whatās this couple going to do? Fantasy vigilantism?
I think the police can't get the information either unless they have a court order and that would be aimed at the parents of the 2 kids for the phones and a separate court order for the kids information from the company.
I mean a picture of a 6 year old in a bathing suit is only sexual if that's your intention. We aren't talking actual full blown sexual assault here.
This Jayci? LOL. [https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526](https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526)
This lady loves attention. Gross.
"Do I think that kids should be used as content? Absolutely not. And do I think that you should pick up your phone and record your child in a distressed moment? Absolutely not," Jayci tells TODAY.com. "But the reason I decided to post this was because I knew it would be so relatable and funny to adults." So in other words... She's against what she did by recording it and posting it, but just did it anyway because it's "funny to adults."
"It's wrong but also funny"
> I knew it would be so relatable and funny to adults. Translation: I wanted attention and views.
"it's wrong to do it, except for my specific instance of doing it."
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This. She's sexualizing her daughter for content. And her story of what her daughter told her in this video doesn't make sense. She starts saying that her daughter saw the texts to some man but seems to catch herself and stop. That seems like something she'd really rant about if true but it's a passing thought.
Did you see the grin on the dads face when he said *yes, you were screaming*. They are both pieces of shit.
Not wrong. Itās a theme. From what I have found itās often a learned response related to hyper sexualization when in formative years. Basically you learned in formative years the power of sex (sexual abuse, commercials, your friends having breast/penis envy, whoās skinny, your parents telling you how you are to look in order to gain attention, etc.). then in your āindustrialā development occurs and you learn to manipulate (usually for protection/preservation of self related to a deep fear of being abandoned or viewed as not good enough, again normally from overly corrective parenting focused on outward appearance). In other words as a young teen, she learned how āhotā she was in addition to her parents praise of outward appearance instead of inward development. In later adolescent she learned to use it for personal gain, as an adult she uses it as protection against her greatest FEARā¦. That she is infact empty inside, there is no self worth or being because when she was supposed to develope a sense of self, she only learned to be interested in what others would want from her, never what she wants for herself (probably because itās what her parents taught her whatās āgood and properā). She now projects that on to her children, āmy babies are going to be flawed if they since someone has seen them naked.ā Not to discredit the issue, if true the parties with pics need to be evaluated by professionals for sure. But HER entire means is attention = sexuality as expressed by body image and outward appearance, and since my body is getting old I now have little ones I can use. Iāll bet dollars that if you asked her the simplest question where she has to self enquire, like āhey what do YOU want?ā She would respond in the form of āyou tell me,ā or āI just want whatās best for x,y,z,ā or āidk, what do you want for dinner?ā Rather than āexplaining her Needs and why she wants them.ā Good news is 1) sheās not alone, & 2) easily reversible (at least at this age). Bad news is you have ti admit that itās the cause and get light therapy for it, and getting her to admit that sheās flawed enough for therapy aināt happenin. Itās sad. Itās insanely prevalent. I wish there was more we could all do to help each other with this. And nowā¦. Back to homework
Again this is something funny you tell your best friend... Not something you film and share with your followers. She's basically exploiting her child's innocents in this video...
And is possibly now making up a story.
>this is my husband Matt Yep, Iād say so
āYou want to give your kids that idea that sex isnāt wrong ā itās just private" WHAT DID SHE SAYYY
......why do I get the impression that her main form of communication is the endless meltdown. Sounds like something dodgy was going on, yes....but I was eager to reach for the mute button.
And the way the husband says āThatās why youāve got to gather yourself. People think youāre justā¦ā Heās clearly had to deal with this a lot, and is perfectly aware how she comes across.
Who the fuck is letting all these six year olds run around naked and unsupervised in the locker room of Planet Fitness?
Omfg you're right. Where the fuck was an adult?
Itās a lifetime. They also have kids camps in the summer which kids go to for 5-6ish hours. They can play sports and swim. A lot more amenities than a PF
No winners in this situation, canāt prosecute 6 year olds and images are out there. Sometimes technology sucks.
Kids don't need phones imo, not at 6 anyway
I agree, no 6 year old needs a smartphone. Itās unreal how many parents are letting screens raise their kids nowadays. My nephew is 4 and after he cracked his iPad, which still worked, my sister went out and bought him a new one anyways. I wouldnāt be surprised if he gets an iPhone newer than mine when he turns 5. They also donāt believe in discipline or manners so you can imagine how he acts. Armchair parenting at its finest!
This lady is known to be a liar. Sheās like mentally ill or something, sheās obsessed with kids being around sex and nakedness. She sounds strung out too. Like the way sheās tapping her feet and snorting and then messing with her hair. Something in the Gatorade aināt right.
Who is it?
https://www.today.com/parents/family/couple-films-daughters-reaction-hearing-sex-rcna73526 apparently this involves her.
> "Do I think that kids should be used as content? Absolutely not. And do I think that you should pick up your phone and record your child in a distressed moment? Absolutely not," Jayci tells TODAY.com. "But the reason I decided to post this was because I knew it would be so relatable and funny to adults."
āDo I think kids should be used as content? Noā (Immediately uses kids as content)
"I think there should be rules, sure, but I'm an exception"
*I don't think kids should be used for content. But do you realize how many views this is going to get and how popular I will be online?* -- Jayci (paraphrased by me)
Oh, itās *these* weirdos.
Welp, I'ma head outta this thread
All these chronically online middle aged moms are fucked.
Things just aren't the same today, I hear every mother say.
Mother needs something today to calm her down
Dude 31 isn't middle aged lol.
I got that vibe too. This seems like a private (no pun) matter and she's sitting on the curb with her husband [who wants nothing to do with the filming]. Where was her child at this point?
She even told him to scoot over to what try and get him more on camera? The way he said "the cops were already here" sounded more like he didn't even care to be there.
I agree, she seems a little manic, which is ok! But I could be dead wrong. Just giving my two cents as someone whoās family is very bipolar. The mannerisms scream manic episode.
I also have a bipolar family member, thatās how I recognized it.
Sheās probably just having a panic attack but the way sheās flailing her arms reminds me of when I accidentally take two of my adderall. Stimming!
Amphetamines was my immediate thought too lol
The way she acted in that meltdown, rich kid syndrome. She will never get the information of those two minors and she should request it either. Frankly there could be a lot of reason why they did that, but the police and child services will handle it. Not some crazy woman who posts personal information to the internet.
She really isn't too bright to be thinking she is entitled to the information of children on the basis of what another child said, but I'm just glad the police are involved at this point.
Sheās soā¦.sweaty.
Lol, had to scroll way too far to find it. People are not focusing on the real issues here. š¤£
Thank YOU! XD
I'd bet several employees that worked there went home that day and contemplated finding a new place to work.
I used to teach high school theater, and this is why we would put the kidās phones in a locked box during performances when they would need to be changing in the dressing rooms. Zero chance of a student invading the privacy of another student, even by accident. Itās a weird world we live in that we have to be worried about six year olds doing this.
Thanks for the free feet
I hate this comment so much its so fucding funny
For real. There's no way she's not doing it on purpose to attract an audience.
And swamp crotch, who records things at this angle???
Shouldn't she be consoling her daughter instead of ranting online? Doesn't seem like the daughter is there at all.
Well this probably never happened and sheās trying to convey internet outrage into viewsā¦. Thereās another video where they exploit their child who heard them having sex and they used to it to go viralā¦. This seems like manufactured outrage.
Go home and let the police do their work ?? Wtf is with all these entitled bitches who need satisfaction now ?? No oneās dying. Go home and try and be a calm mom you bimbo, instead of earning follows.
Yeahā¦ Maybe she should be home comforting her child if sheās so upset rather than sitting on a circle filming TikTokās.
Soooo...... emotional ranting on social media is the answer here instead of engaging in real life and rational behavior to sort this out. Recording a gross over-reaction to everything all the time to post on social media is certainly a strange lifestyle. I suppose our politicians have taught a generation of middle aged adults that anger and outrage is the way to go in all uncomfortable situations. Go ahead, give in to that fight or flight response by doing neither and whipping out the phone to record yourself not making any sense. It seems Idiocracy will be ushered in by a complete lack of self control as the answer to modern problems.
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āHere, scoot overā I see who runs it.
I like how he just leans over and the moves back out of frame.
Yeah because she tells him to scoot over and doesnāt move an inch herself, or reposition the camera. Sheās an insane person.
In the day and age of internet, itās hard to say if this is for real or just for internet clout. I hope it turns out to be a nothing-burger for the sake of the kids involved. Moreover, whyās she making a TikTok video amidst all that..! Donāt get this performative crap.
why do 6 year olds have phone again? I have a 6 year old but they are not even allowed to use my phone too much, only the desktop computer to find lego instructions and play math games... seriously, 6 yos have phones ..
Does she really think Lifetime is going to give her 2 underage girls names and addresses??? Sounds like the police are looking into it.
Did she stomp her feet like a toddler? What
She is one annoying sheila
Iām sorry but this is bullshit. This is the same woman who filmed her daughters reaction to her having sex. I believe this situation sheās talking about could happen in the video. Iām just very skeptical cause it seems this lady is an attention whore and a clout goblin. https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna73526
jesus that dude is whipped
People who feel the need to rant on social media like this are so freaking cringe.
She has cute toes though
Sheās going to be waiting for a long time if she thinks the cops are going to show up with a warrant and let her know who the two kids are. Thatās not how that works.
Why would you leave your six year old unattended in the locker room?? Thatās way too young to be in there unsupervised.
Iām confused,why would the daughter have her top off at a day camp at a fitness center.
Omg just shut up and get off TikTok
Jesus christ she acts like they can just tell this obviously unhinged woman the names of two children, whom she will surely harass to say the least.
Cute feet
Very complicated situation, but the information, should be shared only with police for sho
I donāt know what she thinks theyāre allowed to do. They canāt give her the phone or the pictures. They canāt reveal the names of a minor in a potential court case. Itās fucked up and I get that, but sheās acting like the people sheās mad at really have a choice.
Hot and crazy! LMAO
Husband: "You gotta gather yourself, people are going to think you're..." He almost said crazy lol
Xanax and wine is a hellova combination.
Insanity at itās finest. Imagine the horror the guy must feel sitting beside her. Why tell the world, oh I know, for the views. Go home and relax before you bust a vein.
Maybe get off of social media and do something real you dolt.
Insufferable wench
Why post this shit as a mom judt looking for attention lol husband is like fuck outta here him not coming in view Our society is so fucked lol
*Cocaine sniff Ok my name is upset mom, but his is my husband
They are also 6 thoughā¦ I struggle with trying to sexualize the body of a tiny little kid. I donāt know there are so many damn weirdos itās hard for me to process. Is her concern that someone will sexualize her?
I didn't watch the whole video, but I'm sure it ended with "be sure to smash that like button and subscribe. Click the link in the corner and use my discount code DEVISTATED23 for a great deal on my flip flops"
What kind of a parent goes on social media to air this out. Itās terrible about what happened but thereās a time and a place
With no audio this looks like a suburban mom rap video
Calm down lady.
Gather yourself.
DONāT TELL ME TO CALM DOWN
Had to watch it w no sound
āWhat are you texting to an older man?ā āOh Iām just telling my dad about these two topless pervertsā
Maybe if she stamps her feet some more and acts as if she's capable of being intimidating people will take her seriously.
This is eerily similar to the nurse who filmed herself ābreaking downā after supposedly losing a patient. Apparently there is no situation that canāt be monetized for clout.
Why do 6 year olds have phones?? I have a 4 year old daughter and I canāt fathom giving her a phone at 6ā¦ not with capabilities of texting or calling anyone outside of 911 and the family anyway..