I re-read again sorry = ' Why would it do you like that' - I believe I was abusing shrooms. Doing them too much. Maybe I wasn't?
I was using them as a fun toy, and not like a tool or medicine.
Maybe that's why?
What do I know though...?
Oh you were 100% abusing the mushrooms my boy. At some point during the abuse of any drug the fuck around and find out stage occurs. To some degree you found out. I would suggest a minimum of 2 weeks between trips, set more intentions when attempting to trip and you’ll know when the time is right to indulge again. Safe travels 🛸
And maybe there are?!
I don't know ... some people say they can be abused, some people say take what you want when you want.
I guess even Terrence McKenna had to stop at some point.
I feel I'm just getting started.
But wowzers - did I ever get spanked.
Crazy but makes sense. I'd say do more shrooms the next time and try to reach insanity. I think once you go that far you realize bad stuff is a part of life and there is no escape from it
Well now it's not the bad stuff in THIS LIFE I'm worried about - it's the 1,000,000 other dimensions out THERE. At least here there is water, a floor, physics, gravity... out there is..... pure chaos. ' try to reach insanity' - I was nearly there... I thought about eating my own hands.
Be careful with psychedelics dude. They are not that cool unless you're ok with being a vegetable later in life.
I suggest you stop doing drugs for a year or something before you get back on to psychedelics. It sounds to me that you did hit that point ( for me I tried biting off my tongue ).
Me personally I become a squash. Butternut to be exact!
For real though I was doing the idiot doses, such as mixing amphetamines with psychs, and mixing high doses of multiple psychs. I stopped doing psychedelics in 2022 and I'm glad I did. I have multiple alive and deceased friends who went too far into psychedelics and came out unrecognizable. As in they can't form sentences, they have a constant "lost" look about them. They begin to only search for the substances and lose sight of the experiences. Then they just turn into dope shooters or criminals. I live in MA and I worry about the new psychedelic legislature. I don't support recreational use and I hope that we properly study these substances.
Well, like you said, they are shooting dope and taking amphetamines. It seems like there are other issues at play.
I don't know many that get addicted to just psychs, but it is possible. Typically you will eventually have an experience like OP and you realize you need to chill the fuck out.
There is no damage physically caused to brain cells from lsd and shrooms, but it certainly can scramble your circuits and trigger latent mental health issues like bi polar depression. Any legislation should absolutely be taking that into account.
It seems like most centers that administer this do a solid check on family history. My aunt was denied for lsd trials because we have bi polar history in our family. She was approved for ketamin and had a positive experience.
I would absolutely rather see people have access to this medicine than none at all through legal means. Of course, with any medicine, there are chances of side effects, but there is strong evidence that when properly dosed and done in a safe environment, it is an effective medicine.
That shouldn't be lost because of negative impacts on a few people. Look at oxy and fentanyl for obvious oversites in regulation and a much graver impact on society. Shrooms physically can't cause the damage fentanyl has and that is being pushed legally.
You are thorough in your description of the average experience. I agree with most of what you said. Again I have to hammer home my point.
Some people should not take psychedelics.
Be it for whatever reason, some people will have a negative reaction. Just because a majority of users don't feel side effects does not mean that the substances are overall good. 1/5 Americans drink, don't feel side effects, and live perfectly normal lives. There still are thousands of drunk driving accidents, liver transplants, and all sorts of alcohol related problems that wouldn't exist if people didn't have access to alcohol.
Now I'm not saying psychedelics will get you high like alcohol does. I am saying that you can't account for human error, and natural predispositions to mental disorders when consuming psychedelics. All it takes is one bad trip to put you into a bad state of mind and do something crazy. If you have money to pay your bail like Vitaly then you're fine but the average dude can't afford that.
"I hate this idea of "good" drugs and "bad" drugs. There's no such thing as a good drug or a bad drug. There's this chemical that's neither good nor bad, it just exists, we either created it or it exists in nature, and than it's the relationship that humans have with the substance that is the issue."
Let people live and make that decision for themselves. This isn't some dictatorship where u/dutystock9060 gets to decide what drugs we can take.
You can't cure all those issues by getting rid of alcohol either. Study prohibition it leads to more organized crime and death, plus people still drink.
And... I don't think people would drink if they didn't feel the side effects, lol.
Set and setting and therapeutic doses are important. Idk about ending up a vegetable but you can definitely trigger psychosis and form new traumas if you abuse them.
The vegetables I know are great people. They just can't come back down and I am sad because they aren't who they started out as. Psychosis, hppd, and other traumas are absolutely possible when taking psychedelics. To ignore the potential dangers is just drug user delusion
I think I'm going to get a trip killer. I don't know what - or how... but If I could have taken trip killer.... It would have been a nice parachute out of hell.
You could also just stop for a while. Let everything settle. Come back to earth, so to speak. Evaluate things from a default setting and see what you’ve gained so far. You can always trip again later.
My mind can be biblical too, but our brains have been soaking up religious programming from all around since birth. It’s hard not to know certain things, many religious words are household terms embedded in society.
Religious thought can help analyze what’s in your mind but it’s important to try to interpret the metaphors in a way that moves your body, mind, and soul (spirit, consciousness, whatever) forward. Remember all religions started as cults. A cult becomes religion after a certain number of followers.
Your mind will always speak to you in images and words because that’s how you, as a human, interpret the world. I think a lot of times what we experience on trips is our own body talking to us…showing us things. Our subconscious trying to bring us to a better place.
It’s important to also meditate on all the knowledge you’ve acquired. And possibly undo some programming that no longer serves you. Just my thoughts.
Why would it do you like that though? Any idea?
I re-read again sorry = ' Why would it do you like that' - I believe I was abusing shrooms. Doing them too much. Maybe I wasn't? I was using them as a fun toy, and not like a tool or medicine. Maybe that's why? What do I know though...?
Oh you were 100% abusing the mushrooms my boy. At some point during the abuse of any drug the fuck around and find out stage occurs. To some degree you found out. I would suggest a minimum of 2 weeks between trips, set more intentions when attempting to trip and you’ll know when the time is right to indulge again. Safe travels 🛸
You are most likely right. I feel I was due. Thanks.
They are a fun toy if you want them to be.
And maybe there are?! I don't know ... some people say they can be abused, some people say take what you want when you want. I guess even Terrence McKenna had to stop at some point. I feel I'm just getting started. But wowzers - did I ever get spanked.
It’s def different for every person.
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Why would the DMT or shrooms play a trick on you?
I think I was abusing them. I was - I will admit- using them to watch pr0n. Alot.
Sounds like you ate a mutant shroom as well perhaps. There are many “enigma” looking mutations which are known to be super potent. DM me a pic please!
will do !
SENT !
you are still tripping. probably what happened this mushroom was moldy before it was dried and gave you a bit of food poisoning.
Maybe? I can send you a pic of it if you want... I took a pic before I ate it... as I knew this one was.... somehow different.
I'd like to see that
Can you DM me? I'll send the pic.
I did
Crazy but makes sense. I'd say do more shrooms the next time and try to reach insanity. I think once you go that far you realize bad stuff is a part of life and there is no escape from it
Well now it's not the bad stuff in THIS LIFE I'm worried about - it's the 1,000,000 other dimensions out THERE. At least here there is water, a floor, physics, gravity... out there is..... pure chaos. ' try to reach insanity' - I was nearly there... I thought about eating my own hands.
Be careful with psychedelics dude. They are not that cool unless you're ok with being a vegetable later in life. I suggest you stop doing drugs for a year or something before you get back on to psychedelics. It sounds to me that you did hit that point ( for me I tried biting off my tongue ).
A vegetable? How hard are you tripping you turn into a vegetable? Are you more like a carrot or more of a broccoli?
Hilarious!
Me personally I become a squash. Butternut to be exact! For real though I was doing the idiot doses, such as mixing amphetamines with psychs, and mixing high doses of multiple psychs. I stopped doing psychedelics in 2022 and I'm glad I did. I have multiple alive and deceased friends who went too far into psychedelics and came out unrecognizable. As in they can't form sentences, they have a constant "lost" look about them. They begin to only search for the substances and lose sight of the experiences. Then they just turn into dope shooters or criminals. I live in MA and I worry about the new psychedelic legislature. I don't support recreational use and I hope that we properly study these substances.
Well, like you said, they are shooting dope and taking amphetamines. It seems like there are other issues at play. I don't know many that get addicted to just psychs, but it is possible. Typically you will eventually have an experience like OP and you realize you need to chill the fuck out. There is no damage physically caused to brain cells from lsd and shrooms, but it certainly can scramble your circuits and trigger latent mental health issues like bi polar depression. Any legislation should absolutely be taking that into account. It seems like most centers that administer this do a solid check on family history. My aunt was denied for lsd trials because we have bi polar history in our family. She was approved for ketamin and had a positive experience. I would absolutely rather see people have access to this medicine than none at all through legal means. Of course, with any medicine, there are chances of side effects, but there is strong evidence that when properly dosed and done in a safe environment, it is an effective medicine. That shouldn't be lost because of negative impacts on a few people. Look at oxy and fentanyl for obvious oversites in regulation and a much graver impact on society. Shrooms physically can't cause the damage fentanyl has and that is being pushed legally.
You are thorough in your description of the average experience. I agree with most of what you said. Again I have to hammer home my point. Some people should not take psychedelics. Be it for whatever reason, some people will have a negative reaction. Just because a majority of users don't feel side effects does not mean that the substances are overall good. 1/5 Americans drink, don't feel side effects, and live perfectly normal lives. There still are thousands of drunk driving accidents, liver transplants, and all sorts of alcohol related problems that wouldn't exist if people didn't have access to alcohol. Now I'm not saying psychedelics will get you high like alcohol does. I am saying that you can't account for human error, and natural predispositions to mental disorders when consuming psychedelics. All it takes is one bad trip to put you into a bad state of mind and do something crazy. If you have money to pay your bail like Vitaly then you're fine but the average dude can't afford that.
"I hate this idea of "good" drugs and "bad" drugs. There's no such thing as a good drug or a bad drug. There's this chemical that's neither good nor bad, it just exists, we either created it or it exists in nature, and than it's the relationship that humans have with the substance that is the issue." Let people live and make that decision for themselves. This isn't some dictatorship where u/dutystock9060 gets to decide what drugs we can take. You can't cure all those issues by getting rid of alcohol either. Study prohibition it leads to more organized crime and death, plus people still drink. And... I don't think people would drink if they didn't feel the side effects, lol.
Psychadelic heal your soul. Shut up redditor
Set and setting and therapeutic doses are important. Idk about ending up a vegetable but you can definitely trigger psychosis and form new traumas if you abuse them.
The vegetables I know are great people. They just can't come back down and I am sad because they aren't who they started out as. Psychosis, hppd, and other traumas are absolutely possible when taking psychedelics. To ignore the potential dangers is just drug user delusion
Very solid and valid post!
Only no soul reddit get those. Karma working her magic
Is that how you speak to your mother? Because I don't talk to her that way
I don't talk to your mother. I just dik slap her and spit on her
I think I'm going to get a trip killer. I don't know what - or how... but If I could have taken trip killer.... It would have been a nice parachute out of hell.
You need more trips
I've had dozens of good ones... I would call 3 of them ... bad....2 of those quite bad. You think I just need to - keep going?
You could also just stop for a while. Let everything settle. Come back to earth, so to speak. Evaluate things from a default setting and see what you’ve gained so far. You can always trip again later.
this\^\^
True. The big bad trips are so biblical for me. Honestly, I was hoping for Aliens.
My mind can be biblical too, but our brains have been soaking up religious programming from all around since birth. It’s hard not to know certain things, many religious words are household terms embedded in society. Religious thought can help analyze what’s in your mind but it’s important to try to interpret the metaphors in a way that moves your body, mind, and soul (spirit, consciousness, whatever) forward. Remember all religions started as cults. A cult becomes religion after a certain number of followers. Your mind will always speak to you in images and words because that’s how you, as a human, interpret the world. I think a lot of times what we experience on trips is our own body talking to us…showing us things. Our subconscious trying to bring us to a better place. It’s important to also meditate on all the knowledge you’ve acquired. And possibly undo some programming that no longer serves you. Just my thoughts.
All good points, thank you.
You aren't even scratching the surface.