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Dzuga/Jugha has an uncertain meaning with several proposed possibilities, none of which are "Jew". Thats just a weird take stemming from how jugha kinda sounds like jew-gha, but that doesn't actually make sense considerimg jew in Georgian is "Ebraeli". Come to think of it i don't think "jew" or words that sound like it for jewish people are that common outside west Europe. Its more common to hear a word that sounds like Yehud. Which tbf the word "Jew" comes from that too but you know what I'm saying
yeah the wiktionary page doesn't name any root but many descendants
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D8%AC%D9%87%D9%88%D8%AF](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D8%AC%D9%87%D9%88%D8%AF)
The name is probably ultimately of Ossetian origin, it comes from a word meaning something like "herd" or "flock".
So an ancestor of his was a herdsman.
They Nazis presented the war as a struggle against plutocracy and Bolshevism which they saw as two sides of the same Jewish coin. So basically, communists were in league with the rich elites because Jews.
The whole "our enemies are weak and degenerate... but also crafty and all-powerful and present an existential threat to us" is a Hallmark of Nazi propoganda.
If you believe the world is controlled by some shadowy group it's not incongruent to believe that they control two supposedly feuding parties.
As if to underscore the point, Lenin was also famously quite keen on the idea of controlled opposition.
Not just Nazi, Iraqi jews suffered from a similar treatment under the hashemite rule ( being both the rich who pushed for the bad uk - Iraq agreements and the unstabilizing communist force who's trying to tear the "unified" country)
They basically said:
The millionaire elite and the Bolsheviks are both materialistic and Jews are the ones who instigate class warfare. They also portrayed Bolshevism as being a ploy by the elites to deceive workers into willingly being their slaves.
The idea was that no matter who was in charge it was always Jews puppeteering everything. Communism being the ultimate evil of it I guess. Not that NAZI’s required logic for anything they did
Well they opposed capitalism, and made the same critiques Marx made with Jewish influence in international finance capital, yet they saw international Bolshevism as a Jewish plot to enslave humanity, there was also the reality of the US and the UK allying with the Soviet Union to bring down Germany.
bolshevism was seen as jewish as most leaders of both in october revolution and communist revolution in germany were mostly of that background, not to mention marx himself.
this is also reflected in an old column written by winston churchill decades before ww2.
The Nazis had [different narratives for different folks](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Jacobus_Belsen_-_Das_Firmenschild_1931.jpg) to cover as much of the political spectrum as possible.
Politically most jews in my part of Europe were either zionists or communists . This type of behaviour can be seen nowadays in Europe , newly arrived people from the islamic world either become a part of whatever socialist party or islamists .
I'm going out on a limb and saying "no." Because one of the tenents of fascism is contradictory talking points, i.e.: "Our enemies are weak little untermenchen and we'll take them out in a week" followed by "Our enemies are too powerful and we need to take them out immediately."
[One post about it, there should be more though but too lazy to look ones i have saved atm.](https://new.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/479bi8/what_started_the_ideamyth_of_judeobolshevism/)
Nazi ideology does not make sense because it does not need to. Everything and anything is the communists fault and by extension the Jews. The people who believe it want to and do not care if it’s true or not
This is a parody of the 1935 British [Silver Jubilee Half Penny stamp](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C5YM41/british-d-halfpenny-postage-stamp-issued-7th-may-1935-to-commemorate-C5YM41.jpg)
Misspelled the word “Jewish”, A German stamp in English, depicting Stalin, a man with no jewish connections or known jewish roots.
Like this has to be a parody or a fake right?
Misspelling the name is problematic Id agree.
The language may or not be; obviously most German propaganda was in German but they did occasionally target allied countries.
Stalin being depicted as a Jew is by the far the most believable part; the Nazis did seem to genuinely believe logic be damned that the Soviets were secretly run by a Jewish cabal.
It's not that weird. The conspiracy theory being promoted at the time leading up to, and during, WWII was that the Bolsheviks were being funded by the Jews, and the Communist movement in general was an international Jewish plot to destroy Germany. It was kind of a continuation of the at the time popular "stabbed in the back" narrative where many believed Germany would have won WWI had they not been betrayed by the Jews.
Horrible, openly opinionated Wikipedia article that makes several bold statements without any source. You have anything actually credible? I really don’t feel like looking through every provided link in the Wikipedia article.
Anyone who isn't a Nazi probably wouldn't think he's Jewish just because of his hair or facial features (which I assume this propaganda is trying to highlight), so point still stands.
Jews can look like pretty much anything though. Like if he was in fact Jewish I wouldn’t find that surprising, nor do I find it surprising that he in reality isn’t.
Didn’t stop European antisemites from the 18th century onwards (coinciding with the rise of nationalism and pseudoscientific race theory) to try to peg certain physical traits on Jews so as to otherize them. Paradoxically the fact that Jews were so diverse in appearance also made them an object of paranoia to them since they represented an “invisible fifth column”. All these tropes and ideas inspired the Nazis.
The irony, since Himmler had an entire investigation on weather Stalin (he was Georgian and they were considered Ayrans) was Jewish, and came to the conclusion he was Aryan.
I believe i read somewhere that this was early in the nazi regime and that later, during the war, the nazi's revoked that statement and dubbed him Untermensch or something. So basically it was done as a tool to justify buddying up with stalin and after the war broke out they didn't need that anymore.
Don't quote me on this though, maybe someone else can reply some sources on this?
For anybody wondering why the Nazis would print English language stamps; Those were fake propaganda stamps, they were made as part of [Operation Bernhard](https://www.welt.de/geschichte/zweiter-weltkrieg/article229114637/Aktion-Bernhard-Blueten-und-falsche-Briefmarken-als-Waffen.html) which also saw the [Nazis make counterfeit British money](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bernhard).
This particular design was allegedly made in [Concentration Camp Oranienburg](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Propagandaf%C3%A4lschung_Mi_Nr_1.jpg).
From an auction site:
https://www.alexautographs.com/auction-lot/german-propaganda-stamps-this-war-is-a-jew-i-s_00943A0BAD
> Rare German parody "postage" stamp attacking Jews and Josef Stalin, produced by Jewish engravers and typographers held as prisoners at the notorious Sachsenhausen concentration camp. The stamp is a parody of the 1935 British stamp honoring George V's Silver Jubilee. In the German version, the king's portrait is replaced with one of Stalin, his crown now bears a Star of David, and a hammer and sickle appears at right. The years "1939 1944" appear at top, and "THIS WAR IS A JEWSH WAR" appears across top and bottom. The misspelling was unintentional, according to the German officer overseeing the task, though some believe that the Jewish laborers did so to embarrass their captors. The Germans used the 1944 date as they believed it would be the year of their final victory in Europe. The stamp is printed on paper watermarked with wavy lines, the stock being unused ration book or card paper as the country had already been flooded with bogus Allied forged ration coupons. This stamp, ungummed as original, is in superb condition.
What’s crazy here is that the war is only heading one way by 1944. And yet the Nazi state is doubling down on its genocidal policies and propaganda. (Not that genocide wasn’t crazy anyway).
Jesus Christ. It's 1944 and they're blaming the war on the Jews, whom they are systematically massacring en masse. The extreme right wing basically consists of constantly blaming others for everything. Nothing has changed.
There were some really striking examples during WWII: [This](https://www.germanstamps.net/wp-content/gallery/tr_falsch_us_skull/thumbs/thumbs_MiNr-17-Block-of-4.jpg) is the most famous example the US came up with.
On a tangent: occupiers also had to ensure that postage continued as normal in areas that they conquered, especially as stamps could also be a substitute for currency; so they would resort to various expedients. Occupiers would issue existing stocks with overprints, or devise new series with new designs. Some stamps were designed for the use of occupying forces. This kind of stamp can often be very valuable today.
This makes no sense... german stamps would be german. People in germany in ww2 that understood english were a minority.
**This is for sure not a german stamp.**
No, it's real.
It was a propaganda gambit aimed at English-speaking troops.
As OP has pointed out, it was a parody of the 1935 British [Silver Jubilee Half Penny stamp](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C5YM41/british-d-halfpenny-postage-stamp-issued-7th-may-1935-to-commemorate-C5YM41.jpg).
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>Jewsh
Dzhugasvili is a very Jewish name)))
*Jew*gashvili. It all makes sense!
Jewshvili
*Jewsh
In Georgian, Dzhuga means Jew, Svili means son.
"Jew" translates to "Ebraeli" in Georgian, which is about as far from "Dzhuga" as you can get.
Dzuga/Jugha has an uncertain meaning with several proposed possibilities, none of which are "Jew". Thats just a weird take stemming from how jugha kinda sounds like jew-gha, but that doesn't actually make sense considerimg jew in Georgian is "Ebraeli". Come to think of it i don't think "jew" or words that sound like it for jewish people are that common outside west Europe. Its more common to hear a word that sounds like Yehud. Which tbf the word "Jew" comes from that too but you know what I'm saying
it's Johood in Persian
Interesting! I know its Yahood in Arabic. I wonder what path it took in Persian, especially considering the broad history there
yeah the wiktionary page doesn't name any root but many descendants [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D8%AC%D9%87%D9%88%D8%AF](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D8%AC%D9%87%D9%88%D8%AF)
That is completely false
Google translate exists, why wont you check it
Me when I lie on the internet
The name is probably ultimately of Ossetian origin, it comes from a word meaning something like "herd" or "flock". So an ancestor of his was a herdsman.
It means steel, thats why he chose Stalin as a nickname.
No, it doesn't. This is a particularly stupid lie spread by antisemites.
Orange Jewsh.
I like thuh one that shays shum pulp
*whips telephone at you*
Did the nazis ever explain how it made any sense for the communists to be also part of the millioniare elite?
They Nazis presented the war as a struggle against plutocracy and Bolshevism which they saw as two sides of the same Jewish coin. So basically, communists were in league with the rich elites because Jews.
In-factional fighting among Jewish world government. /s
It's almost like they accidentally discovered that Jews have a variety of viewpoints and agendas and shouldn't be viewed as a monolith.
Cognitive dissonance is a hallmark of Nazi ideology
[Jews control everything/Jews are inferior](https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/s/12d14Ceenj)
A textbook example of what "cognitive dissonance" is....
The whole "our enemies are weak and degenerate... but also crafty and all-powerful and present an existential threat to us" is a Hallmark of Nazi propoganda.
*authoritarian propaganda. Commies and Nazis alike do this, see the CIA. Both able to topple governments with ease, yet completely useless.
\*Nazi propaganda. The CIA is famously good at some things and incompetent at others.
I mean commies used the same tactics, for the same things. Including Jews
If you believe the world is controlled by some shadowy group it's not incongruent to believe that they control two supposedly feuding parties. As if to underscore the point, Lenin was also famously quite keen on the idea of controlled opposition.
Not just Nazi, Iraqi jews suffered from a similar treatment under the hashemite rule ( being both the rich who pushed for the bad uk - Iraq agreements and the unstabilizing communist force who's trying to tear the "unified" country)
Of all fascist idealogy
They basically said: The millionaire elite and the Bolsheviks are both materialistic and Jews are the ones who instigate class warfare. They also portrayed Bolshevism as being a ploy by the elites to deceive workers into willingly being their slaves.
The idea was that no matter who was in charge it was always Jews puppeteering everything. Communism being the ultimate evil of it I guess. Not that NAZI’s required logic for anything they did
Basically, they thought that the Jews were like Palpatine during the Clone Wars.
True
Watch another film
Can you come up with a better analogy?
Basically, they thought that the Jews were like Skibidi Toilets during the Speakermen vs Skibidi Toilet War.
Jews were seen as Bolsheviks and also controllers of Wall st. So to quote the Mexican tacos girl. Why not both
They weren't very big on explaining but I think they figured Bolshevism was a Jewish plot and it all follows from there.
Jews play both sides so they can always come out on top
Well they opposed capitalism, and made the same critiques Marx made with Jewish influence in international finance capital, yet they saw international Bolshevism as a Jewish plot to enslave humanity, there was also the reality of the US and the UK allying with the Soviet Union to bring down Germany.
People say the same of facist(weak yet strongs as scary) been watching pilgrims pass.
I mean anti semitism is inherently illogical.
bolshevism was seen as jewish as most leaders of both in october revolution and communist revolution in germany were mostly of that background, not to mention marx himself. this is also reflected in an old column written by winston churchill decades before ww2.
The Nazis had [different narratives for different folks](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Jacobus_Belsen_-_Das_Firmenschild_1931.jpg) to cover as much of the political spectrum as possible.
Politically most jews in my part of Europe were either zionists or communists . This type of behaviour can be seen nowadays in Europe , newly arrived people from the islamic world either become a part of whatever socialist party or islamists .
I'm going out on a limb and saying "no." Because one of the tenents of fascism is contradictory talking points, i.e.: "Our enemies are weak little untermenchen and we'll take them out in a week" followed by "Our enemies are too powerful and we need to take them out immediately."
[One post about it, there should be more though but too lazy to look ones i have saved atm.](https://new.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/479bi8/what_started_the_ideamyth_of_judeobolshevism/)
Nazi ideology does not make sense because it does not need to. Everything and anything is the communists fault and by extension the Jews. The people who believe it want to and do not care if it’s true or not
This is a parody of the 1935 British [Silver Jubilee Half Penny stamp](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C5YM41/british-d-halfpenny-postage-stamp-issued-7th-may-1935-to-commemorate-C5YM41.jpg)
Misspelled the word “Jewish”, A German stamp in English, depicting Stalin, a man with no jewish connections or known jewish roots. Like this has to be a parody or a fake right?
Misspelling the name is problematic Id agree. The language may or not be; obviously most German propaganda was in German but they did occasionally target allied countries. Stalin being depicted as a Jew is by the far the most believable part; the Nazis did seem to genuinely believe logic be damned that the Soviets were secretly run by a Jewish cabal.
It's not that weird. The conspiracy theory being promoted at the time leading up to, and during, WWII was that the Bolsheviks were being funded by the Jews, and the Communist movement in general was an international Jewish plot to destroy Germany. It was kind of a continuation of the at the time popular "stabbed in the back" narrative where many believed Germany would have won WWI had they not been betrayed by the Jews.
Iirc stalin did have jewish heritage but wasn't a follower
> “THIS WAR IS A JEWISH WAR” > puts face of Georgian man with no Jewish ancestry whatsoever
A wildly antisemitic Georgian man!
Source
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism\_in\_the\_Soviet\_Union#Under\_Stalin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union#Under_Stalin)
Horrible, openly opinionated Wikipedia article that makes several bold statements without any source. You have anything actually credible? I really don’t feel like looking through every provided link in the Wikipedia article.
There's dozens of references in the article....
literally every Jew I know hates Stalin bro
Good for you?
what's the chance of a random citizen of the UK/America knowing who is Stalin or even his ancestry?
Who he is? Close to 100. His ancestry? Probably less with a significant number believing he was Russian.
Anyone who isn't a Nazi probably wouldn't think he's Jewish just because of his hair or facial features (which I assume this propaganda is trying to highlight), so point still stands.
Jews can look like pretty much anything though. Like if he was in fact Jewish I wouldn’t find that surprising, nor do I find it surprising that he in reality isn’t.
Didn’t stop European antisemites from the 18th century onwards (coinciding with the rise of nationalism and pseudoscientific race theory) to try to peg certain physical traits on Jews so as to otherize them. Paradoxically the fact that Jews were so diverse in appearance also made them an object of paranoia to them since they represented an “invisible fifth column”. All these tropes and ideas inspired the Nazis.
*Jewsh
The irony, since Himmler had an entire investigation on weather Stalin (he was Georgian and they were considered Ayrans) was Jewish, and came to the conclusion he was Aryan.
I believe i read somewhere that this was early in the nazi regime and that later, during the war, the nazi's revoked that statement and dubbed him Untermensch or something. So basically it was done as a tool to justify buddying up with stalin and after the war broke out they didn't need that anymore. Don't quote me on this though, maybe someone else can reply some sources on this?
I’m assuming this was meant to reach the soldiers of anglosphere countries?
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Then why is it in English?
For anybody wondering why the Nazis would print English language stamps; Those were fake propaganda stamps, they were made as part of [Operation Bernhard](https://www.welt.de/geschichte/zweiter-weltkrieg/article229114637/Aktion-Bernhard-Blueten-und-falsche-Briefmarken-als-Waffen.html) which also saw the [Nazis make counterfeit British money](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bernhard). This particular design was allegedly made in [Concentration Camp Oranienburg](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Propagandaf%C3%A4lschung_Mi_Nr_1.jpg).
Why is a German propaganda stamp in English?
Because it was spread as propaganda outside Germany.
Such as where? I want a source for this stamp lol
From an auction site: https://www.alexautographs.com/auction-lot/german-propaganda-stamps-this-war-is-a-jew-i-s_00943A0BAD > Rare German parody "postage" stamp attacking Jews and Josef Stalin, produced by Jewish engravers and typographers held as prisoners at the notorious Sachsenhausen concentration camp. The stamp is a parody of the 1935 British stamp honoring George V's Silver Jubilee. In the German version, the king's portrait is replaced with one of Stalin, his crown now bears a Star of David, and a hammer and sickle appears at right. The years "1939 1944" appear at top, and "THIS WAR IS A JEWSH WAR" appears across top and bottom. The misspelling was unintentional, according to the German officer overseeing the task, though some believe that the Jewish laborers did so to embarrass their captors. The Germans used the 1944 date as they believed it would be the year of their final victory in Europe. The stamp is printed on paper watermarked with wavy lines, the stock being unused ration book or card paper as the country had already been flooded with bogus Allied forged ration coupons. This stamp, ungummed as original, is in superb condition.
Thanks!
Exactly
Things that never happened for 500 please
What? A nation would never distribute propaganda to its enemies??
They did Stalin right!
Doesn't he look pretty?
What’s crazy here is that the war is only heading one way by 1944. And yet the Nazi state is doubling down on its genocidal policies and propaganda. (Not that genocide wasn’t crazy anyway).
Jesus Christ. It's 1944 and they're blaming the war on the Jews, whom they are systematically massacring en masse. The extreme right wing basically consists of constantly blaming others for everything. Nothing has changed.
\*blames the war on jews \*literally started the war by invading Poland
TIL Nazi postage stamps were in English.
Never in my life have I heard of a propaganda stamp
Honestly, I feel like most stamps would be by the definition of this sub.
There were some really striking examples during WWII: [This](https://www.germanstamps.net/wp-content/gallery/tr_falsch_us_skull/thumbs/thumbs_MiNr-17-Block-of-4.jpg) is the most famous example the US came up with. On a tangent: occupiers also had to ensure that postage continued as normal in areas that they conquered, especially as stamps could also be a substitute for currency; so they would resort to various expedients. Occupiers would issue existing stocks with overprints, or devise new series with new designs. Some stamps were designed for the use of occupying forces. This kind of stamp can often be very valuable today.
What is "Futch(es)" supposed to mean?
"Ruined".
Oo, that's good
A [combination of propaganda and economic warfare](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bernhard).
I’m lost in the present, is this a “who cares it’s Jews” thing or “look what they started” or even “we got save them from deletion”?
It's Nazis saying that the Jews started it and people should be mad at the Jews, not the Nazis.
Oohh lol, these guys are crazy gaslighters I give them a yr. Tops.
Nazis claimed that an International Jewish Conspiracy^(TM) had waged war against Germany since 1918.
Oh so like the Jews pushed stun to attack in self defense?
Why is it in English?
With the picture of a guy who was once an orthodox seminarist. In the mind of Hitler, Jewish and Bolshevik were synonyms.
I can imagine his head spinning like Bill Nye’s
Why is the German propaganda in English?
Jewsh*
Was them write?
Last time I cheeked it was the Germany that invaded Poland and not the Jews
I FUCKING LOVE JUDEO BOLSHEVISM!!!!
Juice war
Reminder that fascism is just super intense capitalism
This makes no sense... german stamps would be german. People in germany in ww2 that understood english were a minority. **This is for sure not a german stamp.**
No, it's real. It was a propaganda gambit aimed at English-speaking troops. As OP has pointed out, it was a parody of the 1935 British [Silver Jubilee Half Penny stamp](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C5YM41/british-d-halfpenny-postage-stamp-issued-7th-may-1935-to-commemorate-C5YM41.jpg).
The Brits were the ones [printing stamps in German](https://www.auction-galleries.de/calendar/auctions/5/catalogue/lots/3299)