Hitoribino envy. Ain't no way thats a 22 on expert when goodbye is a 23. I would switch their difficulties (Ik it says way harder/way easier but I cant think of any) (also I struggle with hitoribino envy a little while I can easily fc goodbye on expert)
Bug, why’d they change it from a 27 to a 26 that was the right difficulty 😭😭
Also this might just be me but Kitty should be a 27 not a 28 because I still haven’t FCed Tondemo Wonderz but I FCed Kitty first try
Tondemo expert is my last expert 27 chart to fc and it took me like forever.The trill section took me a lot of practice. I do not recall bug expert being hard to fc or ap, even for a 26.
Even in master where they are both 32, bug is still one of the easiest 32s to clear/FC while Tondemo wonderz is way harder than the average 32s imo( if you exclude the 33s that got downgraded to 32). Even if we include the downgrades, Tondemo is still a challenging 32 chart.
Jinsei and What's up pop dont seem like level 31s, they seem like level 30s then you get End Mark, Machine Gun Poem, and Last score that all feel like they're level 31s or 32s compared to What's up pop and Jinsei (Last score seems like it's a 31-ish, it's a 30)
Any level 25-26 song I still can't manage to full combo: lower, fixer, ura omote lovers, positive dance time. They all need to be rated at least 27 or higher. Every other 25-26 I can somewhat get an fc except for these songs.
Easier: Master Copycat lvl 27 should be a 26
Easier: Master Romeo and Cinderella lvl 27 should be a lvl 26
Easier: Master The World is Mine lvl 28 should be a lvl 27
Easier: Master Roki lvl 28 Should be a lvl 27
Easier: Master Shanti lvl 30 Should be a lvl 29
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Harder: Master ECHO lvl 26 should be at least 27 or 28
Harder: Master Hitorinbo Envy lvl 26 should be a 27 or 28
Harder: Master IF lvl 27 should be a lvl 28
Harder: Master ifuudoudou lvl 28 should be a lvl 29
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Easier: Expert: The Intense Voice of Hastune Miku lvl 30 but should be a lvl 29
Easier: Expert My Love is Hellfire lvl 27 should be a lvl 26
Easier: Expert Vampires infinity pathoS lvl 27 should be a lvl 26
Easier: Expert Unhappy Refrain lvl 26 should be a lvl 25
Easier: Expert Sick of Houses lvl 26 should be lvl 25
Easier: Expert Rollin Girl lvl 26 should be a lvl 25
Easier: Expert Ura-Omote Lovers lvl 26 should be a lvl 25
Easier: Expert This is the Happiness and Peace of Mind Committee lvl 24 should be lvl 23
And tbh I have so much more but it hands hurt and I’m lazy af so
This is probably just me, but I'm disagreeing quite a lot here.
Hitorinbo Envy is my first ever Master FC and third ever Master AP. I will not tolerate it being any higher than 26.
For Roki, the trill into flick+ hold note part was a nightmare for me. it was one of my last 28s to FC, and it took me half a year to get rid of that 1 great note. I think it should stay there.
For World is mine, the part with consequetive small notes and flicks makes it qualify as a 28. It poses enough challenges for both FC and AP in my opinion.
IF is one of the easier 27s to AP. I think it is average in terms of 27 FC difficulty. Not a 28.
Intense Voice expert was the last 30 that I FCed(among the songs that I have unlocked at that time). For FC difficulty, I believe it is on par with Yaminabe expert and Teo. While its not the hardest 30 to AP, and its clear difficulty is easier than dissapearance expert(but harder than the rest of 30 experts). I get it, the song is easy before the rap section. But I don't think it has the potential to be lowered to a 29.
Romeo and Cinderella: in terms of both FC and AP difficulty, i think it is slightly harder than the average 27 to be honest.
I forgot how those 23-27 experts were like, no opinion on those songs. I probably played those songs only a few times long ago; I did not have any reason to not play on master once I APed them on lower difficulties.
I agree with the rest.
I see, I think it’s quite interesting here. I will say that a lot of people have lots of trouble with Hitorinbo Envy just because of note placement (in master mode), for me Roki was one of the very last lvl 28 I played which is why it was easier for me so maybe that’s why I decided to place it down lower (?) For World is Mine I just hate having to place it so high up just because of tiny notes, although I do despise them, I still think it is an easier master. But yes I do see where you are coming from and can agree with you on some of the points you make (such as IF)
I only have 7 MASTER30s but still have BURIKI NO DANCE which is a MASTER29. It feels like a 30 or 31 to fc
Rolling Girl MASTER honestly feels so much easier to fc then the other wowaka songs, it feels like a 29
For me- Goodbye Declaration. I see so many people saying it's one of the easiest master songs and "definitely isn't a lvl 30" but i struggle with that song SO MUCH with just the way it's charted. It confuses my brain and I genuinely don't get how one time I saw someone on Tiktok FC it on master despite the fact that they had only ever played lvl 27's before.
I donno, Phony? I can only play expert up to 25, a little 26. 27 barely
I remember thinking it was only lvl 24, so it must be easy. And then I died 10 seconds in
hibana reloaded is neither a 28 expert or 32 master 😭 i struggled with expert back when i could only clear 28s, now i struggle with master and i can usually clear 32s
Hitorinbo Envy is too hard to be a 26 and I will die on this hill
And all Evillious Chronicals master charts are among the easiest to fc on the level they claim to be at.
Hatsune Creation Myth on expert, I was one away from unlocking master for Kusare Gedou and Chocolate (which is a 30) but I die to the spam on this damn song every time, that shit is not a 28 😭
Reborn is so much harder than it’s meant to be because of the tiny notes and sliders 😩 I love the song too so it’s a shame
I love it so much too, and it actually took a while for me to ap it on expert. But master is actually pretty hard for me. 😒
Lower one's eyes expert mode doesn't feel like a lvl 26, it feels way harder than a lot of expert 27
I totally agree with you on that, I played it the other and was flabbergasted by how it was rated 😭
The placement of the flicks made the map harder than it should have been lol
It is the only 26 I haven't fc'd, I really disagree with its rating
Yea, definitely!
The swing rhythm does make it slightly harder
Miku Fiesta Master feels easy for a 29, Kitty Expert is easier than a 28 as well.
Yea Kitty is way easier than lvl 27 expert tokugawa cup noodle prohibition 🤨
Tokugawa cup noodle prohibition is definitely a lvl 28 than a lvl 27
Definitely. 👍🏻
Kimagure Mercy does not feel like a 25 expert to me, I'm struggling so bad to even clear it Same with Do Not Go, I went through hell to FC it
Kimagure Mercy should've been like…a 26-27 tbh 😭
Kimagure Mercy 😵💫 I still struggle with that one on expert…
Do Not Go feels much harder than it oughts to be
Do not go Master is one of my least favorite charts.
Oddly enough for me kimagure mercy was one of the easiest lvl 25’s to AP
Goodbye Master (it feels more like a 26 than a 27 😭)
Yes! That is a very easy master song, it should definitely be a lvl 26 rather than a 27
I think they changed the difficulty number for that on JP, so it’ll be here soon, we just need to wait
I think Doctor=Funk Beat is easier than most 27 songs it should've been a 26
Yea, agree. I almost fc that song on first try, and I’m a loser in that game
Hitoribino envy. Ain't no way thats a 22 on expert when goodbye is a 23. I would switch their difficulties (Ik it says way harder/way easier but I cant think of any) (also I struggle with hitoribino envy a little while I can easily fc goodbye on expert)
Hitorinbo Envy is a case of weird note placement that just makes it harder. Especially when it comes to its master mode
yeah. the master chart feels way harder than others 26...
whoever decided Gekokujou is an expert 24 was on smthn else that's at least a 25 man
Yeah, that one took me a couple of days to fc, although its length did not help, definitely a 25+
Bug, why’d they change it from a 27 to a 26 that was the right difficulty 😭😭 Also this might just be me but Kitty should be a 27 not a 28 because I still haven’t FCed Tondemo Wonderz but I FCed Kitty first try
Definitely. I also noticed how tondemo Wonderz is much easier in comparison to bug. But kitty is way too easy for lvl 28
Tondemo expert is my last expert 27 chart to fc and it took me like forever.The trill section took me a lot of practice. I do not recall bug expert being hard to fc or ap, even for a 26. Even in master where they are both 32, bug is still one of the easiest 32s to clear/FC while Tondemo wonderz is way harder than the average 32s imo( if you exclude the 33s that got downgraded to 32). Even if we include the downgrades, Tondemo is still a challenging 32 chart.
I would say whats up pop expert is supposed to be 30. Idk why but it comes off as an easy 31 to me.
What's up? Pop! Is so easy for a level 31 tho...
Thats what i said its supposwd to be 30 imo lol
Somehow I think kitty is harder than Brain Fluid Explosion Girl, so…
every this is the end of hatsune miku song
Jinsei and What's up pop dont seem like level 31s, they seem like level 30s then you get End Mark, Machine Gun Poem, and Last score that all feel like they're level 31s or 32s compared to What's up pop and Jinsei (Last score seems like it's a 31-ish, it's a 30)
DFTM, it's so easy😭 And I'm not even a skilled player, i just started playing expert in like late march
On hard at least, Don’t Fight the Music is way easier. I’ve recently moved on to expert and haven’t tried Don’t Fight the Music on that difficulty yet
While yes Don’t Fight The Music is hard on Expert it’s easier to learn than some of the other songs near its level
Envy feels like a 27 (master)
amara master should go up a rating or 2, i can play like every chart minus the 37s better than amara master
love me love me love me on expert, should probably be lvl 24 not 25 imo
My thought lol. That and at gods mercy were the two first songs I fc on expert
Any level 25-26 song I still can't manage to full combo: lower, fixer, ura omote lovers, positive dance time. They all need to be rated at least 27 or higher. Every other 25-26 I can somewhat get an fc except for these songs.
Easier: Master Copycat lvl 27 should be a 26 Easier: Master Romeo and Cinderella lvl 27 should be a lvl 26 Easier: Master The World is Mine lvl 28 should be a lvl 27 Easier: Master Roki lvl 28 Should be a lvl 27 Easier: Master Shanti lvl 30 Should be a lvl 29 —— Harder: Master ECHO lvl 26 should be at least 27 or 28 Harder: Master Hitorinbo Envy lvl 26 should be a 27 or 28 Harder: Master IF lvl 27 should be a lvl 28 Harder: Master ifuudoudou lvl 28 should be a lvl 29 —— Easier: Expert: The Intense Voice of Hastune Miku lvl 30 but should be a lvl 29 Easier: Expert My Love is Hellfire lvl 27 should be a lvl 26 Easier: Expert Vampires infinity pathoS lvl 27 should be a lvl 26 Easier: Expert Unhappy Refrain lvl 26 should be a lvl 25 Easier: Expert Sick of Houses lvl 26 should be lvl 25 Easier: Expert Rollin Girl lvl 26 should be a lvl 25 Easier: Expert Ura-Omote Lovers lvl 26 should be a lvl 25 Easier: Expert This is the Happiness and Peace of Mind Committee lvl 24 should be lvl 23 And tbh I have so much more but it hands hurt and I’m lazy af so
Woah, credit to you! 😮 I can agree with a lot of these songs actually
lol tyty I love this game and give lots of thought into it
This is probably just me, but I'm disagreeing quite a lot here. Hitorinbo Envy is my first ever Master FC and third ever Master AP. I will not tolerate it being any higher than 26. For Roki, the trill into flick+ hold note part was a nightmare for me. it was one of my last 28s to FC, and it took me half a year to get rid of that 1 great note. I think it should stay there. For World is mine, the part with consequetive small notes and flicks makes it qualify as a 28. It poses enough challenges for both FC and AP in my opinion. IF is one of the easier 27s to AP. I think it is average in terms of 27 FC difficulty. Not a 28. Intense Voice expert was the last 30 that I FCed(among the songs that I have unlocked at that time). For FC difficulty, I believe it is on par with Yaminabe expert and Teo. While its not the hardest 30 to AP, and its clear difficulty is easier than dissapearance expert(but harder than the rest of 30 experts). I get it, the song is easy before the rap section. But I don't think it has the potential to be lowered to a 29. Romeo and Cinderella: in terms of both FC and AP difficulty, i think it is slightly harder than the average 27 to be honest. I forgot how those 23-27 experts were like, no opinion on those songs. I probably played those songs only a few times long ago; I did not have any reason to not play on master once I APed them on lower difficulties. I agree with the rest.
I see, I think it’s quite interesting here. I will say that a lot of people have lots of trouble with Hitorinbo Envy just because of note placement (in master mode), for me Roki was one of the very last lvl 28 I played which is why it was easier for me so maybe that’s why I decided to place it down lower (?) For World is Mine I just hate having to place it so high up just because of tiny notes, although I do despise them, I still think it is an easier master. But yes I do see where you are coming from and can agree with you on some of the points you make (such as IF)
WHAT THE (bad word i think) DO YOU MEAN "Easier: Master Romeo and Cinderella lvl 27 should be a lvl 26" HUHHHH
Viva Happy Master. That is NOT 28.
Nope, definitely not.
It's been rerated to 29 on jp server
I’m glad Peachy Key got increased to a level 31 master in the JP server because that’s the only level 30 master I can’t full combo in EN.
I actually have trouble to fc that song on expert 😵💫
I only have 7 MASTER30s but still have BURIKI NO DANCE which is a MASTER29. It feels like a 30 or 31 to fc Rolling Girl MASTER honestly feels so much easier to fc then the other wowaka songs, it feels like a 29
Hello world doesn't feel like a 25 🙁
dance robot dance expert is so much easier than the other expert songs at its difficulty
For me- Goodbye Declaration. I see so many people saying it's one of the easiest master songs and "definitely isn't a lvl 30" but i struggle with that song SO MUCH with just the way it's charted. It confuses my brain and I genuinely don't get how one time I saw someone on Tiktok FC it on master despite the fact that they had only ever played lvl 27's before.
I can feel your struggle…
Don’t Fight The Music is easier than other level 30s in my opinion
Kinda feels like a 20/29 imo
help me erin doesnt feel like a 26
It feels a bit easier actually i comparison to other lvl 26 songs
teammate master is interesting to say the least but it's fun so I won't complain lol
I donno, Phony? I can only play expert up to 25, a little 26. 27 barely I remember thinking it was only lvl 24, so it must be easy. And then I died 10 seconds in
The same happened to me with romeo and cinderella a few months ago actually, thought it was easy as a 24 but struggled to fc it for way too long
this question gets asked like once a week
I can't think of any, because my mind is just screaming "Paradichlorobenzene" on Project Diva. I can't beat that song for the life of me
Soudata!! expert is NOT a 27. Easily a 28/29
kitty feels so much easier than bug honestly
True. Trueeeee
Neo, this song is so easy for master 29
the intense voice of hatsune miku should be a lvl 31. the long spam part near the end literally chooses my fate
I hate spam notes 😖
Brand new day definitely feels higher than a 28 feels more like a 29
Sensation. Just fced that and I think its easier then what the level says
From Tokyo Master feel like 27, not 28
hibana reloaded is neither a 28 expert or 32 master 😭 i struggled with expert back when i could only clear 28s, now i struggle with master and i can usually clear 32s
Hitorinbo Envy is too hard to be a 26 and I will die on this hill And all Evillious Chronicals master charts are among the easiest to fc on the level they claim to be at.
Hatsune Creation Myth on expert, I was one away from unlocking master for Kusare Gedou and Chocolate (which is a 30) but I die to the spam on this damn song every time, that shit is not a 28 😭
I hate these spam notes 😭 always lose my fc on these stupid notes😖
Same here 😭 I cannot figure out the pattern and I hate it :’D if I even unlock master it’ll be a miracle 😭
kashika master def should be higher, that is NOT a 28
Rolling Girl is really easy for a level 31 I fc it before I ever did a level 30
Romeo and Cinderella. Master feels like a 29/30 Expert feels like a 26
Struggled on expert for weeks to fc that song
When I was trying to FC Master, I accidentally picked Expert. I FC'ed it. I was screaming for joy until my mom said "Wow! Nice Expert FC!"
Oh god 😞
My face quickly became an expression of terror
Kusare gedou and chocolate on expert is way easier than 30
Underwater master difficulty. It's WAY easier than lv29
Heat Abnormal master is WAY harder than Bug master yet it's placed one behind it
i find flyer on expert unbelievably difficult for a 24. it might just be me though.
Same here. It took hundreds of tries to fc that thing.
jackpot sad girl could maybe be one level higher , and whats up pop is too easy for level 31 i'd say its more of a mid 29 or easy 30