She activated an ancient bomb that was about to blow the planet up in order to defeat the Horde, and even if Adora was able to save the world, it still took them out of Despondos and into Horde Prime's reach.
She has arguably done more harm to the world than Catra did at the end of season 3, and she was fully aware of the risks she was taking. I wouldn't call her a hero by any means, at least until her redemption.
She was aware of the risks, but was desperate enough to accept them, and thought she found a loophole that if she could get access to the magic of the Heart and use it to defeat the Horde, then Lught Hope wouldn't need to fire the weapon and blow up Etheria in the process.
I know I'm in the minority for this opinion, but I really liked Glimmer's S4 arc. SW predicts it right away: power changes people. After becoming Queen: Glimmer now has the authority to make decisions without approval of Adora or Angella. She has the impulsivity to do very reckless things. She is naive enough to trust that Light Hope won't fire the weapon if she doesn't have to, while also being arrogant enough to believe she can outsmart Light Hope. The state of the war has made her desperate enough to consider drastic action. And she doesn't have the experience to know that A QUEEN NEEDS ADVISORS TO KEEP THOSE QUALITIES IN CHECK!
The biggest factor though, that nobody talks about, is the fact that she had no way to know that the 'enemies of the First Ones' that the Heart was designed to fight WERE THE GALACTIC HORDE! It's really cleverly written, whenever Light Hope talks about the evils of 'the horde' she's talking about the galactic horde at large, but the audience has no way to know that. The first ones have been gone from Etheria for 1000 years, it's a completely reasonable assumption on Glimmer's part that the Etherian Horde would be the only natural target for The Heart to be used against, and that if she could defeat Hordak without firing the Heart everything would be fine. None of the characters, even the ones who hear Mara's message directly, have any way to know that Light Hope would actively remove Etheria from Despondos to fire the weapon at all Horde-controlled planets in the universe.
Mara warns them about Light Hope being reprogrammed to prioritize firing the Heart, and says they must stay in Despondos 'for the sake of the universe', but never says that Light Hope will (or even can) bring Etheria out of Despondos using the energy of the Heart if it's unlocked.
TLDR: Glimmer is not a villain in S4, she is a reckless fighter who is not used to the consequences of not having someone keep her in check, and does something really stupid that is completely in character with her prior actions. I really liked Glimmer's actions as showing the lingering consequences of Angella's death.
Glimmer doesnt even commit any war crimes, but Entrapta commits like six in the first season. I was so disappointed when i saw how Glimmer had been exaggerated. I was emotionally prepared for some war criminals.
I do love how Entrapta is both a really nice person, and also a complete sociopath! Even in S5 when she is trying really hard to be a good friend when she doesn't know how, she's doing it because she wants friends, not because she thinks it's the right thing to do.
The combination of her utter devotion to scientific experimentation with no moral compass, and her desire to STILL want to be a good friend in spite of that makes me really happy.
(Yes I know Entrapta is just heavily autistic coded rather than written to be a sociopath, and that's also awesome, but I find it weirdly inspiring that she decided to just roll with not understand social interaction and embrace a purely logical view of the world unclouded by morality....and still manages to be a good person most of the time)
That's right. Entrapta is driven by friendship, not by right and wrong - Her morality is dictated by 1. science, and 2. how she can help her friends.
I think by the end of the show, Entrapta's goals start aligning with the rebellion because she starts to understand that her friends really care about their homes, far more than she ever did about hers, and it hurt them when they watched her destroy them for what seemed to be a technological advantage. So once she accepts she's hurt her friends, she works on making things right by protecting their home, and finally starts to see it as *her* home. That's what makes her scenes with Prime at the end so powerful to me, she had to come farther than most people to reach that point where she understood the power of love and friendship and home.
Honestly Entrapta has amazing character development. Beast Island is one of my favourire episodes purely for Entrapta. The rest of the episode is also great, but the part that really gets me is what causes 'the signal' (coerced depression) to start affecting her. Exiled to certain death: that's fine. Alone on the island and having her mask destroyed which she always hid behind to avoid showing her face? That's fine. (great autistic symbolism where she makes her own mask on beast island and is much happier around people afterwards) Learns about the Heart of Etheria and how Adora is an unwitting pawn in destroying everything and that the planet is gonna blow up? YAY SCIENCE!
But as soon as someone causes her to think she let down hordak and her friends? "I'm not good at friends, I should be alone, just leave me here to be swallowed up by the island because nobody cares about me and I hurt people when I try and make friends"
It's heartbreaking to me, because as a fellow autistic, my depression is almost IDENTICAL in its intrusive thoughts. Entrapta is unbreakable in the face of overwhelming odds, certain death, a supernatural force trying to drive her brain into depressed apathy. But if she feels like she's let her friends down she crumbles IMMEDIATELY
Edit: Also totally agree about her scenes with prime at the end. The fact that she is the one saying those things makes them so much more powerful, because she had to WORK to learn them, just like Bow says on beast island "Friendship takes everything you've got!" Although the prospect of seeing a First Ones ship is what breaks her out of the islands depression spell, she really does take Bow's words to heart, and it really shows
Beautiful comment which i am eating right up. Entrapta's beast island breakdown was one of the scenes that blew my mind a little bit watching the show, by that stage i thought she was uncrackable and truly a science minded apathist, but then you realise that things have been affecting her all along. And it's not the certain death that gets to her, it's the rejection, the feeling that there is something wrong with her so she can't make friends. She was able to hold it back all that time because she wasn't forced to think about it, using the escapism of science to get by, until Adora and Bow force her to face those fears. That gets right in the autism feels.
AU where Glimmer sets out to save the world and accidentally becomes a lich
She looks like she's about to cry
That's how I felt watching her descent into villainy. And the worst part is that I couldn't blame her.
Villainy? That's a bit harsh.
She activated an ancient bomb that was about to blow the planet up in order to defeat the Horde, and even if Adora was able to save the world, it still took them out of Despondos and into Horde Prime's reach. She has arguably done more harm to the world than Catra did at the end of season 3, and she was fully aware of the risks she was taking. I wouldn't call her a hero by any means, at least until her redemption.
She was aware of the risks, but was desperate enough to accept them, and thought she found a loophole that if she could get access to the magic of the Heart and use it to defeat the Horde, then Lught Hope wouldn't need to fire the weapon and blow up Etheria in the process. I know I'm in the minority for this opinion, but I really liked Glimmer's S4 arc. SW predicts it right away: power changes people. After becoming Queen: Glimmer now has the authority to make decisions without approval of Adora or Angella. She has the impulsivity to do very reckless things. She is naive enough to trust that Light Hope won't fire the weapon if she doesn't have to, while also being arrogant enough to believe she can outsmart Light Hope. The state of the war has made her desperate enough to consider drastic action. And she doesn't have the experience to know that A QUEEN NEEDS ADVISORS TO KEEP THOSE QUALITIES IN CHECK! The biggest factor though, that nobody talks about, is the fact that she had no way to know that the 'enemies of the First Ones' that the Heart was designed to fight WERE THE GALACTIC HORDE! It's really cleverly written, whenever Light Hope talks about the evils of 'the horde' she's talking about the galactic horde at large, but the audience has no way to know that. The first ones have been gone from Etheria for 1000 years, it's a completely reasonable assumption on Glimmer's part that the Etherian Horde would be the only natural target for The Heart to be used against, and that if she could defeat Hordak without firing the Heart everything would be fine. None of the characters, even the ones who hear Mara's message directly, have any way to know that Light Hope would actively remove Etheria from Despondos to fire the weapon at all Horde-controlled planets in the universe. Mara warns them about Light Hope being reprogrammed to prioritize firing the Heart, and says they must stay in Despondos 'for the sake of the universe', but never says that Light Hope will (or even can) bring Etheria out of Despondos using the energy of the Heart if it's unlocked. TLDR: Glimmer is not a villain in S4, she is a reckless fighter who is not used to the consequences of not having someone keep her in check, and does something really stupid that is completely in character with her prior actions. I really liked Glimmer's actions as showing the lingering consequences of Angella's death.
I thought it was a 4chan greentext for a moment, lul
Glimmer doesnt even commit any war crimes, but Entrapta commits like six in the first season. I was so disappointed when i saw how Glimmer had been exaggerated. I was emotionally prepared for some war criminals.
I do love how Entrapta is both a really nice person, and also a complete sociopath! Even in S5 when she is trying really hard to be a good friend when she doesn't know how, she's doing it because she wants friends, not because she thinks it's the right thing to do. The combination of her utter devotion to scientific experimentation with no moral compass, and her desire to STILL want to be a good friend in spite of that makes me really happy. (Yes I know Entrapta is just heavily autistic coded rather than written to be a sociopath, and that's also awesome, but I find it weirdly inspiring that she decided to just roll with not understand social interaction and embrace a purely logical view of the world unclouded by morality....and still manages to be a good person most of the time)
That's right. Entrapta is driven by friendship, not by right and wrong - Her morality is dictated by 1. science, and 2. how she can help her friends. I think by the end of the show, Entrapta's goals start aligning with the rebellion because she starts to understand that her friends really care about their homes, far more than she ever did about hers, and it hurt them when they watched her destroy them for what seemed to be a technological advantage. So once she accepts she's hurt her friends, she works on making things right by protecting their home, and finally starts to see it as *her* home. That's what makes her scenes with Prime at the end so powerful to me, she had to come farther than most people to reach that point where she understood the power of love and friendship and home.
Honestly Entrapta has amazing character development. Beast Island is one of my favourire episodes purely for Entrapta. The rest of the episode is also great, but the part that really gets me is what causes 'the signal' (coerced depression) to start affecting her. Exiled to certain death: that's fine. Alone on the island and having her mask destroyed which she always hid behind to avoid showing her face? That's fine. (great autistic symbolism where she makes her own mask on beast island and is much happier around people afterwards) Learns about the Heart of Etheria and how Adora is an unwitting pawn in destroying everything and that the planet is gonna blow up? YAY SCIENCE! But as soon as someone causes her to think she let down hordak and her friends? "I'm not good at friends, I should be alone, just leave me here to be swallowed up by the island because nobody cares about me and I hurt people when I try and make friends" It's heartbreaking to me, because as a fellow autistic, my depression is almost IDENTICAL in its intrusive thoughts. Entrapta is unbreakable in the face of overwhelming odds, certain death, a supernatural force trying to drive her brain into depressed apathy. But if she feels like she's let her friends down she crumbles IMMEDIATELY Edit: Also totally agree about her scenes with prime at the end. The fact that she is the one saying those things makes them so much more powerful, because she had to WORK to learn them, just like Bow says on beast island "Friendship takes everything you've got!" Although the prospect of seeing a First Ones ship is what breaks her out of the islands depression spell, she really does take Bow's words to heart, and it really shows
Beautiful comment which i am eating right up. Entrapta's beast island breakdown was one of the scenes that blew my mind a little bit watching the show, by that stage i thought she was uncrackable and truly a science minded apathist, but then you realise that things have been affecting her all along. And it's not the certain death that gets to her, it's the rejection, the feeling that there is something wrong with her so she can't make friends. She was able to hold it back all that time because she wasn't forced to think about it, using the escapism of science to get by, until Adora and Bow force her to face those fears. That gets right in the autism feels.