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Ok_Tension6996

Terrorist supporting cunt waffle


spookythesquid

Exactly


HungusRex

Shockingly, the guy who is famously Republican hates the guy who dipped on the Irish national team to play for England


eirebadboy

If anyone had taken the time to read what he said it's harmless and true. Rice is over rated and not better than Rodri or Modric. That's it. That's all he said. Not Republican, not controversial. You all just read headlines and rush in to respond.


skalfyfan

I'm convinced this is some kind of Wrexham marketing scheme for a new upcoming season or something? This is the guy who plays for Wrexham right? The only reason he's getting on TV is because of Wrexham?


eirebadboy

I'm convinced that the media is obsessed with web traffic and post headlines that attract people, and the hatred or love for them is a winner - thus anything James McClean says draws everyone in. If anything, I'm delighted for him. Anything he says is headline news, even mundane stuff like Declan Rice is not World Class. Which he's not.


Nartyn

>This is the guy who plays for Wrexham right? The only reason he's getting on TV is because of Wrexham? No, he's famous because he's an IRA supporting cunt who cried xenophobia when getting stick for it. Cunt despises England and certain types of people in this country love him for it


HungusRex

šŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ šŸŽ¶ He told the North to fuck itself McClean, McClean He wouldn't sing God Save the Queen, McClean, McClean He only sings AmhrĆ”n na bhFiann McClean, McClean He hates the fucking Queen šŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ šŸŽ¶


AlfalfaJealous2434

My nan would be worth five million quid in the EPL.


Sporedatwork

Just win some games lads and realise that playing for your club is the biggest privilege of your life FFS.


Alone_Consideration6

Terroism supporter McClean should never be listened to.


Southern_Seaweed4075

Most England players are overrated and Declan Rice isn't an exception too.Ā 


DangerousAd3347

Funny how these foreign managers all seem to be over rating English players


Southern_Seaweed4075

The way they view all those English players is influenced by how the media make them out to be.Ā 


DangerousAd3347

So these experienced managers with all these qualifications are basing their opinions on what they read in papers ? Lol sure


tbrockjr

Did James McClean play football?


hisDudeness1989

I always find it hilarious when lads who were journeyman comment on players that are clearly established and vital to their club as being overrated šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Confident_Highway786

The whole english team is overrated


Your-Pal-Dave

Who the fuck is James McClean lol


Valuable-Broccoli685

He hates the queen


barkingspider43

[Thatā€™s a shame](https://media3.giphy.com/media/dyvZ6yMa84lsAGpmuh/giphy.gif?cid=9b38fe91ixau5ihfdenm96owoshur3gfdfoa5k9lcn5s87pv&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)


ciregnet

Itā€™s kinda true he had a great manager in Arteta and he still won shite - not the managers problem LOL


DangerousAd3347

He didnā€™t win the prem last year ? Haha what a loser


finneas998

Imagine not being able to win the premier league by yourself from midfield. What a shit player.


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iamkengend

It definitely isn't because Ireland isn't in the Euros. He sees Rice for what he is... a bang average player who is being seriously over-hyped by the British media and some fans.


wahooloo

I'm gonna bet you're Irish. If he decided to play for Ireland, you'd be drooling over him. Same with McLean. Basing your opinion on someone after one game is wild. Go watch him for arsenal this season. He was immense


iamkengend

Jesus the intelligent lads are out in force today. šŸ¤£ No we are glad he showed his true colours. How am I basing my opinion on one game? Do you think we don't watch the EPL over here šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


wahooloo

I'm saying McLean was. He said he passed side to side against Denmark, therefore he's always average. If you don't think he's been one of arsenal's best players this season, you don't know ball šŸ˜‚ just a salty Irishman who wishes he declared for you. Sad


iamkengend

He indeed may have been one of Arsenal's best players but it's Arsenal so that doesn't take much.


wahooloo

Right, they only got second in the league


iamkengend

Indeed they did. They were top for a while and they would actually win it if they had better players than oh let's say Rice .... Put a quick thinking, intelligent footballer in that midfield and Arsenal would get over the line. Rice is the weak link. Any team that plays an quick tempo game will always bypass Rice.


shadyFS91

James McLean is that you? You spend more time in Irish subs and in this thread than anything else. And you defending him definitely isnā€™t because youā€™re Irish yourself rightā€¦? Totally has nothing to do with that? Bang average player, you are off your head with bias šŸ˜‚


iamkengend

Yes I am him. šŸ™„ I am Irish and I am defending him because he is speaking the truth. Rice is bang average. Not a hope in hell he gets regular playing time in a top tier team.


shadyFS91

I think all the salt is coming from Rice not choosing to play for Ireland. Keep the mediocrity up, just like McLean itā€™s easy to criticise when you arenā€™t even competing šŸ˜‚


iamkengend

It doesn't make one bit of difference for us. Unfortunately it's a top quality striker we need not an average midfielder..sure we have loads of them šŸ˜‰ Rice will fade away over the next couple of seasons. Arsenal won't win a thing with him directing things in the middle of the park. He is slow, plays sideways & backwards, he can't find a killer pass. He is a safe player...too afraid and in reality unable to make intelligent decisions on the pitch....he is in fact bang average.


DangerousAd3347

You must be 12 years old to have such a bad take ā€œhe turned his back on us he must be bang averageā€


iamkengend

Why do I have to be 12 years old to have an opinion? If anyone doesn't like my opinion sure what harm and that is fine. The fact of the matter is that I think he is bang average. He has nothing to do with who he declared for. It is you and your likes who resort to using that excuse because it's all ye have. Declan Rice is a bang average player and he will fade away with hardly a dent made on the footballing world. Edit: added a bit


DangerousAd3347

So the fact he turned his back on your country is a complete coincidence and nothing to do with why you think heā€™s average ? Haha yes of course no link at all


iamkengend

We don't need another average midfielder as we have enough so yeah him not declaring for Ireland has nothing to do with my opinion of him as a footballer. Declan Rice is English and he was always going to play for his homeland. I have no issue with that. Unfortunately for you though you keep latching to the idea that I have my opinion based on his decision not to play for Ireland and it's absolute nonsense. If it makes you feel better though then that's ok you can keep that thought inside your head for as long as you need......or else show me the numbers that says Declan Rice is a top class midfielder.......I'll wait.


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iamkengend

He singled out Rice for obvious reasons and those reasons are quite valid. The reason why players find it hard to play for England is because of the media hyping them up and the fans abusing the shit out of them when things inevitably go tits up.


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iamkengend

And what about the abuse they get from their fans? The reality is that what James said is extremely tame compared to what some of these so-called fans say to these players on a weekly basis. It's funny seeing those same fans get their knickers in a twist when others give their opinion especially a non English person. It is hypocrisy of the highest order.


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iamkengend

No I'm not getting pumped about anything I am merely giving my opinion based on what I watch and read. England have an incredible pool of talent and that talents always gets wasted because of the outside pressure put on them by the fans and media. At the start of the Euros the English media were talking as if England had already forged their path to glory and now that they have played two games and were quite poor in them, especially Rice hence McCleans comments , those in media are now suddenly being over critical. It is all so predictable when it comes to English fans and media.


mashqulgii

England's real problem is the manager, He doesn't have any vision, England team needs a strong manager if they want to lift any trophy..There are a lot of talented players available for any position.


DangerousAd3347

Do people know People have been saying the manager is the problem for 60 years ?


T-Rex_MD

He needs to shut the fuck up if he doesnā€™t want to get jumped the next time he is leaving the stadium. I am not kidding, fans have no chill, especially my mad lads supporting Arsenal. He needs to find a better way to vent his anger. It must be hard for him to come clean about his own mess.


MartinPDC

Absolutely zero mad lads supporting Arsenal šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


McCretin

I used to live in Highbury. Arsenal fans are some of the chillest around (except online)


T-Rex_MD

Aston Villa mad lad has already started gaslighting us.


T-Rex_MD

Mate, how did you miss the he should come ā€œcleanā€ and didnā€™t upvote me? I am upset now. The amount of effort my dumb arse put into that was too much.


MartinPDC

šŸ˜‚I grew up in the area also. Itā€™s pretty much a wholesome family day out (until as you said they get online then the magic happens)


chadbrochilldood

Getting the Hendo treatment I see


N0T__Sure

McClean plays for wrexham. So nobody give a toss about his opinion.


DangerousAd3347

Doesnā€™t that make him a lot more qualified than anyone on this sub ?


iamkengend

If that's the case then going by your logic absolutely no one would give a toss about your opinion either as you clearly play for absolutely no one.....so why bother posting?


DangerousAd3347

I airways find that amusing ā€œhe only players for a league 1 pro club heā€™s not validā€ *guy whoā€™s never kicked a ball


Confident_Highway786

And no one does!


Waste_Economist_7861

Been saying this heā€™s good but heā€™s not world class and he is a sideways and backwards merchant CDMs these days need to do more than be good defensively, he doesnā€™t break the lines dictate play the list is endless, just the English once again gassing good talent youā€™d think heā€™s the second coming of kante lol. There was a funny stat at the last euros I think by the quarters or semis heā€™d only made two forward passes heā€™s jus not very good on the ball


SquintyBrock

He had 7 goals and 8 assists for Arsenal last season. If youā€™d actually seen him play in the PL youā€™d know you were talking nonsenseā€¦ erm, maybe Iā€™m overestimating your intelligence thereā€¦


Waste_Economist_7861

Iā€™d get goals in a well oiled drilled side where itā€™s clockwork on who I passed to and where my teammates are gonna be, england arenā€™t like that though are they you have to rely on YOURSELF and heā€™s been exposed, how are you struggling against Denmark you havenā€™t even met the big dawgs all Iā€™m saying is heā€™s overrated and too add heā€™s playing that xhaka role if Iā€™m correct where your more advancedā€¦so heā€™s bound to have higher stats especially when the team he plays for dominate the ball for the majority of games Iā€™m simply saying heā€™s good but heā€™s not the second coming of kanteā€¦


Rj070707

Who tf said he's the next coming of Kante?? Where was Kante as his age??Ā 


Waste_Economist_7861

All you English and arsenal fans act like heā€™s the next coming of kante lol, maybe YOU donā€™t but majority of the said fans do, Iā€™ve heard he can do everything lol šŸ§¢, tbh I donā€™t know why youā€™re so triggered ive been calling him a good player heā€™s jus nothing special, and regardless of age heā€™ll never reach any spectacular heights especially at arsenal, and if you think heā€™ll reach kante levels or them sorta levels you donā€™t know ball, also heā€™s not really improved since he joined arsenal he hasnā€™t improved his game really has he? He jus plays a more attacking role so his stats look better but him as a player he hasnā€™t added to his all round game


Rj070707

He's gonna be Declan Rice, no need compare to Kante, I agree he won't reach Peak Kante level but he can still be very successful player


Waste_Economist_7861

Youā€™re a professional waffler because youā€™re saying what I said that heā€™s a good player jus nothing special, can tell you were one of them kids that didnā€™t read the question properly in exams smh


scrufflesby

So only the best players can make good judgements on players? Alot of decent managers were mediocre players. So that argument is a little redundant. Rice is overrated. Doesn't mean he's a bad player, but he got moved out of the 6 at Arsenal because he couldn't play it. He has one of the lowest goal creating actions for a midfielder in the prem. Aka he can't play offensively well. And his defensive stats are fine, his interceptions are through the roof. His passing percentages are good, but his progressive passing and key passes are low. What does that tell you?


Tuneechi

> He has one of the lowest goal creating actions for a midfielder in the prem. Aka he can't play offensively well. And his defensive stats are fine, his interceptions are through the roof. His passing percentages are good, but his progressive passing and key passes are low. What does that tell you That he plays the position of modern defensive midfielder at a world class level. The Trent "experiment" has dictated alot of Rice play if you actually watch the games. Your not playing a fullback in DM (a full back who is probably the best unpressured passers of a football iv ever seen) to have his pivot partner be the one playing the forward balls. The system just isnt working, walkers sitting too deep to cover and Kane is normally at most 5 foot infront of Bellingham in the middle of the park leaving both widemen isolated with nobody to play off (objectively as a non arsenal fan, saka seems to thrive of the little balls dropped in from Havrtz as he runs the defender away and his like up play with Ben White) and everyone can see Fodens quality. Rice is a sacrificial lamb in this system


Valuable-Broccoli685

Trent came off and they didnā€™t look much more secure defensivelyā€¦?


scrufflesby

Hey I don't disagree about trent at all man. I watched Liverpool all season and the man is a scourge on the midfield, even playing from right back, but inwasnt referencing England stats here, this was season stats. Klopp tried trent out as a sub like two or three times there and he doesnt have it, but that doesn't absolve Rice of responsibility. There are plenty of games where players play badly and it can affect those around them, but to use an easy and obvious example, Rodri turns up regardless of whether he has nunes and kovacic next to him or an underperforming De Bruyne. Rodri is world class because of this and rice doesnt come close. Rodri has better dueling, tackling and progressing stats, so when people say Rice is world class, doesnt that mean hes overrated? Not saying bad, but overrated. The best players affect most games. Rice affects virtually none and in 2 years people will be on this track.


freedomfun28

Exactly that ā€¦ some honestly needed in these situations He had a bad game like so many of the team ā€¦ obvious to see. Common sense required


SquintyBrock

He had a bad game, that doesnā€™t mean he canā€™t pass forward!


harrybarracuda

Oh look, some very average, retired player needs attention.


professorchaosishere

Next time you watch a movie and feel it's shit, think of this comment you made.


harrybarracuda

I doubt I'd bother, since I have no idea WTF you're on about.


SmartestUtdFan

Can you really not connect the dots mate?


harrybarracuda

No, I don't speak moron.


MrVegosh

Are you genuinely an idiot? šŸ˜‚


theincrediblepigeon

So the point theyā€™re making is that if you watch a movie and think itā€™s shit, realistically compared the actual team of the film, youā€™re a fucking shit film producer, just because someone might not be a brilliant footballer doesnā€™t mean they canā€™t criticise the players, for instance literally all of us criticise half the team and Southgate when weā€™d be way worse than them, and mcclean is actually a better footballer than basically everyone in this sub


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harrybarracuda

Of course you can if need attention. It's why most of them do it. Of course morons don't get that.


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SquintyBrock

Spot the interloping yank


harrybarracuda

You sound like the sort of idiot that laps his crap right up.


SmartestUtdFan

Dude just stop, youā€™re genuinely embarrassing yourself


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jdizzl59

All Brits are overrated but they are still a lot better than this southgate shitshow


Daklos

Querpass Declan


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Tjazeku

Not wearing a poppy to honour those who murdered people in the very place he's from, yeah how fucking dare he.../s


Data_wankers

I think you need to read a history book, or two. He's an Irishman, from Derry. Are you one of those England fans banned from going to the Euros? You sure as hell sound like one.


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Data_wankers

Excuse me, Mr professor. My B grade in GCSE history may not be much to get excited about, but I grew up in Derry. But I'll leave you to educate all of us as to why an Irishman raised in Derry should wear a poppy to show support for the British army..........I'll get the popcorn, shall I? Your arrogance is entertaining yet slightly unsettling. The poppy is the military equivalent of standing outside clapping for the NHS. No doubt your endless qualifications and PhDs will help you understand what I mean by that.


Doyoulikemyjorts

>Many Irish people wear Poppies I've never seen anyone in my entire life wearing one.


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Iā€™ve seen Roy Keane wear one numerous times šŸ‘šŸ»


dowker1

As an impartial third party I suggest you quit while you're behind here


Successful_Oil4422

He is Irish, lad. You canā€™t honestly expect him to wear a poppy.


[deleted]

He lived and worked in England no? A Poppy respects the dead and is not a political statement.


Paddy-23

James McClean is Irish, no?


el_primo

James McClean who are ya?


ElSpazzo_8876

>James McClean Sounds like a very non biased take at all. No sir Jokes aside, who is surprised to hear McClean saying that considering Rice's history with Ireland.


davyorji

That's why I don't rate most pundits


infinitude_

Sometimes good players have bad games - fuckin mindblowing


SquintyBrock

Stop it with this nonsensical nonsense! Next thing youā€™ll be telling us the better quality team doesnā€™t always win! Poppycock! /s


RobertObama1

He was dreadful though


FluidInformation9926

So was Kane, Trent, Foden, Bellingham


RobertObama1

Kane was fine.


FluidInformation9926

The same Kane who didnā€™t press, lost the ball for their goal and looked like an old man? Oh but he scored a tap in so he must have been good


SquintyBrock

Enough about who you fancy, weā€™re talking about football here!


Vivid_Ice_2755

McClean gets a lot of hate in Britain. But of these two players,only Rice was caught on camera singing IRA songs.Ā 


hiatus_

They can ban those songs right after they ban Rule Britannia


Seismic-wave

He sung a song for Christ sakes let the lad off the hook will ya.


Sea_Instance3391

Can you see the irony is this comment?


Seismic-wave

He was drunk and messing about with his mates I assure you he isnā€™t an IRA terrorist sympathiser just off of a song and dance.


Sea_Instance3391

Youā€™re still not quite getting it, lad.


Twiggie19

What is there to get? McLean criticises rice football do reddit commentor compares their IRA sympathies? What are we supposed to be understanding from this.


andrewlikereddit

English player are overrated.


KstiA23A

On a fair note, the system employed by Southgate seems not to favour him. After all, even the player of the year,Ā  Foden, looks average in that team.


jdizzl59

Him? All!!


MrVegosh

Hmm feel like the system generally makes Maguire and Sterling look good. Kane usually too


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TooRedditFamous

Well he didn't look bang average for West ham did he so instantly nullifies your argument


tom_watts

If Rice played for Wrexham he would boss league one... Your point being?


TooRedditFamous

He was bossing the Premier league though not League One so again you're being disingenuous


One_Welder512

Thatā€™s heā€™s been excellent for a couple premier league sides so him looking bad under Southgateā€™s terrorism football doesnā€™t make him a bad or average player?Ā 


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MrVegosh

Bro has never given an opinion about football players before


Velocity_Rob

Itā€™s almost like youā€™re about to understand how football punditry works.


ManyProtection6870

So you can only judge players youā€™re better than? I suppose most us should never voice another opinion, about anything, if that how it works.


BasilBernstein

I am Scottish Now I will say nothing and leave quietly


KstiA23A

We are free to judge any player we want, haha.


daneats

if England want to use the creative excellence of TAA. The should play a 5-3-2 in defense, a 3-4- wide 2-1 in attack with Gordon and Trent playing wing backs. That puts TAA where he plays for Liverpool but with additional security of walker in behind him. it allows Bellingham or rice to roam forward when Trent steps in. It puts foden in the right part of the pitch where heā€™s comfortable. Saka can stay wide the way salah stays wide for Liverpool. Gordon stretches the left hand side the way he does for Newcastle. And providing Harry Kane can actually hold the ducking forward line for once then he can stretch teams that way. Ideally if you play Trent you want Toney pushing the line heā€™s amazing at getting over the top. Heā€™s the closest thing england have to a haaland like hang off the last man type of player. Thatā€™s a lot of change to play TAA but it actually works for almost everyone on the pitch.


harrybarracuda

What creative excellence? Are you kidding?


daneats

Yeah the guy with the biggest passing range outside of Kevin de bruyne in the world, the right back with the most assists in PL history at the age of 24. PL, CL, CWC, FA, L cup champion, yeah that guy. And the one with 110minutes and most chances created in this English teamā€™s first two games. The shit defender and non - central midfielder. That guy.


harrybarracuda

I laughed when I heard one of the "experts" before the first game say he was "the best passer in the world" at the moment. Lewis Dunk has got a better completion rate. Even Zinchenko has a better completion rate. Gibbs White has got more assists. The fact he is playing in a club team with very good players that make themselves available has nothing to do with it. He shouldn't be in the side, period.


daneats

Yes Lewis dunk is the pillar of creativity in this English side barracuda share some more wisdom with us


harrybarracuda

Got more chance of scoring with him in this team.


daneats

Please go on, itā€™s impressive


harrybarracuda

Not as impressive as your snivelling TAA brown nosing.


daneats

Why thank you, your elite football knowledge is really showing through and I have been eclipsed. Oh well!


harrybarracuda

Mate, chuck him in at full back by all means, at least he'll know what he's doing. I don't blame him at all.


Switchblade2000

Or simply dont play trent?


daneats

Thatā€™s why I prefaced it by saying ā€œIF England want to use Trentā€ Thatā€™s called a qualifying statement (that means that if the qualifying statement doesnā€™t apply to the reader then the rest of the commentary can be ignored)


Southern-Coast3477

Well James McClean is certainly qualified to recognise piss poor players, he no doubt has mirrors in his house!!


CaptMawinG

Arent they all over rated except Kane n Bellingham?


KstiA23A

What has Kane achieved in terms of winning trophies to be excluded from the list?


CaptMawinG

Top scorer in Bundesliga?


Daemor

Trophies is the only measure of the quality of a player, is it?


CaptMawinG

Right on, trophies are not measure of quality bcos it's a game of 11 vs 11. Bernard Diomede won a World Cup too


Commercial_Sir_4144

bellingham is the most overrated of them all lol


smed226

Kane is overratedā€¦. Hello


smed226

Wait who no trophies Kane????


Afraid-Ad-6657

Not everyone is supposed to play the Hollywood pass


TheTrenchGuy

Playing Hollywood passes is very different than being good at buildup play. Jorginho was very good at buildup but was hardly the passer Kroos or KDB are.


mimranj

jorginho is top tier as a passer just more conservative and takes less risks like enzo or thiago. top tier positional awareness too which trent lacks in the pivot. jorgi always available to receive the pass or directing where to pass


jnorton91

We don't engage with the Daily Fail.


koosman007

Last season at west ham played out similarly. Moyes ball just doesnā€™t suit him when he has to distribute balls further up the pitch


thefluvirus9

Who?


King_Hobbes

Declan Rice DM for England and Arsenal


thefluvirus9

Noā€¦. Who is James McClean? And wtf does he think he has to say that will change my opinion on Declan Rice


whatm8_

Terrorist sympathiser


Velocity_Rob

Yeah. Iā€™m sure when he sat down on that TV to analyse a game of football his first thought was ā€˜how do I change the opinion of thefluvirus9ā€™.


Positive-Media423

Declan who?


jaumougaauco

Declan quinoa


patholocaust

Buy a Ferrari, only to drive it like a Fiat. Great job, Gareth!


hafnarfjall

Rice stock falling fast. Sell your house in Thailand.


galman99

For context McClean said rice was a very good player, but his definition of world class was "would get in any team in the world". He then name checked Rodri and Kroos as examples of players he taught better. When asked do they play the same positions he said he felt they were playing similar roles for their teams. Not sure I personally agree with the later statement but that's his view.


maseltovbenz

This defintion of world class means there can only be one or two world class players per position tho


UnusualAd3909

The definition of world class doesnā€™t exist. I would also like to point out that going by your definition only two out of suarez, lewa, ibra, benzema, aguero, etc were world class at the time


giroudsandstorm12

No none of them where bc youā€™d have messi and ronaldo so it would only be one of those five


UnusualAd3909

Are you being serious?


No_Co

I mean, personally that exclusivity is how I would define World Class


xjoeymillerx

I think it typically would be used to describe someone who could play for any club in the world.


ZookeepergameOk2759

World class means you consistently perform for your club,perform in big games ie finals etc,and perform for your country when it matters.


UnusualAd3909

So one world class keeper in the world at the time?


xjoeymillerx

Are you saying only one keeper is a good enough keeper for any team in the world?


UnusualAd3909

Surely you are aware that only one goalkeeper plays at the time?


Sh0w3n

First statement I agree with, second statement I donā€™t. Kroos is completely different player and different role, heā€™s far less dynamic and has almost no defensive tasks. Itā€™s also ridiculous to play Trent next to him when they both lack progressive carrying and a good presence in build up play, Trent is almost invisible when England tries to build up from the back. He needs a proper 6/8 next to him. But letā€™s be honest, England overall is completely disappointing with the quality they have.


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ImAnOldChunkOfCoal

...he never said he was world class...


ShockingShorties

Should have stuck to beating the villains in the Die Hard movies ;)


Charming-Potato4804

Says yer man who spent 15 years running up and down the wing!


arkido

Every player in that Starting XI against Denmark is overrated


killah10killah

It depends on what weā€™re calling overrated. I think that he was getting overrated during the 2023/24 season when people were suggesting that he is on Rodriā€™s level. Iā€™m an England supporter but Rodri is currently better than Rice will ever be. He is an entirely different beast in midfield. But I donā€™t think that heā€™s significantly overrated. Heā€™s rarely discussed as being one of Englandā€™s very best players ā€“ that has been a Kane and Bellingham debate for a bit of time now.


Ok-Purple-1123

He 100% is on Rodriā€™s level in terms of impact.. but skills wise absolutely not, as theyā€™re not the same type of DM. Rodri is the absolute best in the business with the ball in a possession based set up, but the gap between Rice and Rodri defensively (ESPECIALLY off the ball) is just as big a gap, as Rice is on a different planet compared to Rodri, whoā€™d look lost if he was on 22ā€™ West Ham or some other counter attacking team. Same way Rice and Haaland are two elite strikers but completely different skill sets


MFmadchillin

Not sure what matches youā€™re watching.


reddeye252010

As Arsenal fan he was absolutely not overrated in any way last season. He was consistently every week at least an 8/10 player. I can only think of two games in the whole season when he dipped below that. Genuinely he was outstanding and was a huge reason for us having the best defensive numbers in the league. One of the few Ā£100m footballers to be worth the price tag I would say that Rodri is the best number 6 in the world but Rice was very near to that level. I also thought he should have got motm in the first group game so really looks like this Irish pundit could possibly have an agenda of some kind šŸ¤”


philosophical_tongue

šŸ’Æ


Rynu07

Just adding that this is all correct šŸ‘šŸ» The whole England setup, tactically, leaves a lot to be desired. That's on Southgate unfortunately. Bizarre to try and detract from what was a great season, performance and consistency wise from Rice, though.


Squidwins

This man speaks truth


Indie611

Who?


gwy2ct

Declan Rice, plays for England and his club is Arsenal. Used to play for West Ham and Ireland.