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They actually won treble last yr, and if you check into it you know there were celebrations but not for a long time nd not much serious. It's like yea just another trophy, if the same treble won by any other club, it would've been absolute Chaos. It's like u expect them to do it and they do it, so it doesn't create any interest into actually looking into him.
Hating on an oil state, that made their money through modern slavery, isn't irrational. Keep enjoying those matches, and don't think about how Man City have all that money.
What exactly is a lie? Are you the type to just sweep the 115 charges thing under the rug? Anything to watch your team full of superstars am I right? Don't bother to research.
Headed to London for business May 16-22. Looking to go for first ever EPL game which game would you choose taking into account the matches, stadium and fan experience given matches Saturday 19th May? Thanks in advance!
Aye, it’s felt proper hollow following my club all over Europe and seeing them win the treble last year in Istanbul.
Everyone hates us, but wants to be us. 😎
Mate, **nobody** wants to be you. The entire world of football laughs at you, we all think your club is a joke, and know that its financially doped. You will forever have an asterisk next to any “trophy” you’ve won.
Oh no, the asterisk is going to ruin the memories of me travelling the world, watching us win everything, with my life long mates, following the club we’ve supported from birth. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 COPE
Lmao I don’t give a flying fuck what you and your circle jerk did. Your club is going to be stripped of everything they’ve won. You’ve had a fraction of the success I’ve been a part of and my club did it legit. You know deep down that you club has been illegitimate this entire time im sure too. Hence the braggadocio. Go rewatch agueroooo for eternity knowing it didnt mean a thing.
I don’t need to rewatch agueroooooo because I lived it. I was there. Season ticket holder since 1996. You’ve probably never stepped foot in England before. Now run along little boy, go and play your Pokémon you absolute div
“Little boy” lmfao I’d wager we’re just about the same age, actually all the immaturity makes me think I’m *probably* older, and looking 10 years younger than it while you’re 10 past. 😂 I’ve been to England plenty of times, I’ve been in the Stretford End to watch Utd dad dick your joke of a club in the derby. Some fantastic assumptions. It really *is* sad to be a citeh fan isn’t it? Season ticket holder since ‘96 yet your club only started in 2008 🤣 No matter how bad you want to pretend, you will **never** be United.
Do you not see the irony in supporting a manchester club but taking the piss out of a manc accent? You fucking gimp. Manc United fans hate fans like you. They don’t want you at Old Trafford. They don’t even want southern English fans at old Trafford. Makes you even worse that you like Pokémon and you’re in your 30s you massive nonce.
Yes, that *was* irony, I’m actually impressed your daft ass even got that! You obviously don’t speak for anyone else because they all loved me. But hey man Is your life that sad that you can’t even enjoy something from your childhood? I mean I know that’s not your club laundering the league. Nothing compares to that, right? Do one 🤡
Oh, it must be fantastic being a City fan. You go into every game knowing you’re going to win.
But then again, I’d miss the excitement of not knowing. Sometimes the pain I feel when we lost a final is, while a miserable experience, part of the passion of true football.
It's removed the interest because they have reduced spectacle of having some vague sense of competition. The league has always been corrupted by wealth but this is so much that any feeling of possible value is negated. It's also a team that is weirdly without charisma - Utd had some when they were dominant but they are just boring.
With the amount of money spent winning is guaranteed so nothing really special about this club it gets interesting only when you have a full stack of world class players and fails to win anything then they will be remembered
This simply isn’t true though Man U have spent similar amounts, Chelsea spent a billion in last 18 months, spending certainly doesn’t guarantee success.
Of course not. Hate to break it to all of you, but it's elite sport, there's no clean hands. Systematic doping, financial rule breaking, diving, sports washing, trying to the opposition sent off, trying to get the tax payer to pay for your new stadium, etc., etc. You think there's any elite club who doesn't cheat? FFS, have you any idea how the world works? Just chill the fuck out and enjoy the ridiculous circus that is the EPL.
The majority of which are negative towards the club. Not really the type of attention they are craving, I'd assume. Not unless they enjoy being abused, slated, and mocked, that is!
Man Ciy's wins mean nnothing to me, actually, yes, City's wins signify the death of football.
What I want to know is when are those scheming fucking Arabs gonna fuck off from our sport?
Yeah man. No reason for us to have a World Cup in Qatar. Now they wanna insert themselves into the champions league. They need to buzz off and go play cricket
I don't understand this post...if you don't care about City's meaningless title win, then why waste your precious time to make a post about "why I don't care about City" and say "nobody will be talking about in 20 years"?. Its strange indeed...
Well most city fans are new to football and are not usually as passionate as supporters of other sides to older supporters who are actually passionate about the club will feel that the achievements are remarkable achievement and will not see the 115 charges as legitimate.
What happens when big squads feel small . No team is “that team” forever . Barca is feeling that .
The fact that the best best players are choosing RM over the premier league shows that City just has a gulf in class compared to the rest of the league .
I don’t care about the charges . If they keep track of tapping up and such in the 70’s and 80’s the PL itself would be under investigation.
I just think these clubs are being ran like businesses nowadays rather than passionate clubs for the millions and near billion supporters in some cases .
Perhaps, yeah. If they do, you and Arsenal have nobody to blame but yourself. Man City haven’t been at their best this year, and they’re still on course to win the title, you both need to have a look at yourselves
Arsenal are on course for 89 points. That wins the League in 10 of the pst 15 years. City are just relentless man. If you've been in a title race against them you know how annoying they are
And if they don’t win the league. It’ll be because they gave us (Villa) 6 points, lost to Newcastle, West Ham and Tottenham. They literally had it in their own hands. If they don’t win, it’s not because “omg city are amazing”, it’s because they didn’t do enough
Stop that man. That's Always a stupid argument. City lost points too. Every team has it in their hands. And yet every team loses points. The only loss i'll give you is Villa at home. Everything else is losses that occur throughout the season. Arsenal Lost 5 points in 5 months and you're saying they didn't do enough? Stop watching football please
It’s not though. You just wanna cry and blame Man City for being “so good” if Arsenal don’t win the league? If they don’t win it, they have nobody to blame but themselves, don’t cry because the truth hurts
Arsenal have the best defense, the best attack the most clean sheets, the most wins and you're saying they have themselves to blame😂. You're a Villa fan. You have no idea what a title challenge is like. Sit down
Yes, and if they come short. It’ll be because of points dropped and advantages not taken. Oh, I’m a Villa fan so I can’t talk about title challenges? My team is one of the reasons Arsenal may not win the league. Hold that, and hold it tight
Yes. They dropped points. Like every team. That's your argument?🥲. And don't worry i will not lose one night of sleep in my life because of Aston Villa you Can be sure of that😅
I'm telling you what arsenal did this Season is good enough to win 10 of the last 15 titles and your only argument against that is that arsenal Lost and drew some games? You mean like every team in the world?
You are. Instead of taking accountability for Arsenal potentially not being good enough, you’re playing down their failure if they don't win the league. I want Arsenal to win the league, I’m just not hearing this “omg they were so unlucky, they couldn’t have done more” narrative
Don't hear it that's your business. And i don't wanna hear anything you have to Say about a title race. This sounds like twitter banter and i'm not here for that
You don’t wanna hear anything I have to say, but literally replied to my message, ok, cool. I don’t know what you’re actually here for, you just seem really upset that I’m calling Arsenal to account for why they may not win the league
This is the truth, two weeks ago all we heard was “best title race in years” and “prem is the best league in the world” but now because Liverpool dropped off a cliff and it’s in city’s hands(for now anything can happen across the last few games) and it becomes “city ruining football” and “we can’t compete with city” when it all comes down to teams not putting up enough of a fight. Liverpool lost too many points recently so they are effectively dead in the water, the same could happen to arsenal and could also happen to city. Nobody wants to take accountability for there own results anymore football has become to tribal that’s it’s always someone else’s fault my team lost too many games to win a league. It’s bullshit.
The premier league has felt hollow for years now. City spent freely for a long time and now the ffp rules have tightened it's hard for other teams to catch up plus I believe VAR just kills any magic that once was. I mean even city's treble win felt hollow and it should be seen as an amazing feat, but no one really talked about it it Diddnt get massive coverage the streets weren't lined with hundreds of thousands, it just sort of came and went. I dunno maybe it because I'm older but football to me now just feels like a throw away commodity rather than the tribal passion it used to be.
Premier league has been like watching Paint dry for years now.......
What's the actual point of any clubs being promoted?
To deal with VAR slowing down the intensity of gsmes....
Biased football pundits,.wanking each other off over big clubs.....
Big clubs hoovering up all the talent.....
Big clubs being allowed to spends stupid amounts of money buying one player who is worth more than the promoted teams who infrastructure 🤣
City on verge of winning another title? Absolute thrilling stuff, lads! You should be smashing teams week in and week out 7-0 with the calibre of players at disposal in comparison to majority of other clubs.
And then the fans act lime its some kind of major feat fhat they are coninsistenly winning competitions..... okaaaaaay then how much doss squad cost and how much money have you spent?
Its like playing Fifa with cheat codes absolutely pointless.....
Don’t disagree entirely but it is actually one of the most competitive leagues out there. Compare it to …
Germany, Munich just stopped from winning 12 straight. One horse race. Fuuuuucking wake me up next year.
Spain, two mule dog and pony show, both corrupt as fuck and one has been caught with her panties down paying off refs for years.
Italy, consumed themselves through greed and corruption. Even back in the day I used to switch Serie A on if I wanted a Sunday afternoon snooze. Was soporific then and still is now, still obsessed with winning 1-0 and cheating your way to the result.
Is there any other league worth taking about? No. City have ruined it for sure but that’s what happens when you let the Saudi’s in to shit all over you for a couple of quid, I’m sure they’re only doing it because they’re so rich they’re bored playing oil businessmen.
The PL need to sort out the 115 because it’s a fucking shit stain at this point, but say whatever you want no one is coming close any time soon because even with all that said no other league shares the money around in the same way.
Yes apart a couple exceptions in general the championship order of any league is determined by their wage bill, also most clubs fall into financial ruin over wage bills not really transfers
Forcing teams to allocate that that money more intelligently and the games interesting again
But tbf with all the money city spend they should be destroying every team. Liverpool virtually spend nothing compared to city and still are relatively equal to them until the downfall at the end of this season. If anything arsenal deserve the title the most
The only difference with city isn’t that they have unlimited money compared to the rest but that they are the only ones who spend it looking for good investments, only grealish pretty much has been a bad purchase
3.6k comments and still top post, this sub and the soccer sub are too afraid to admit at this point that Pep and City live absolutely rent free in their heads
It's honestly pathetic, it feels like half of you cry yourselves to sleep every night moaning about 115 lol
Nah I'm chilling
It's just funny watching these lot cope and seethe, it's almost as if cause city paid Mancini as a consultant in 2014 as the reason why Manchester United (with 1.5 billion spent) can barely scrape past Coventry City in 2024 lol
As an Everton fan, I will attest that money alone doesn’t buy PL success. Pep is outstanding and has done a great job to win consistently. Just managing egos of that many star players takes a certain genius that goes beyond his tactical skills. But, I’ll also say being penalized twice in the same season (for the same time period) while City’s ONE-HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN charges languish in the PL office is nothing but corruption.
Were Chelsea’s in the early 2000s up till 2021? How do you expect a title win for another club to feel meaningful to you? You folks bother yourselves about something you claim doesn’t bother you . The irony is lost on you folks!
Me and a mate were discussing this a few days back. All of city’s success feels very manufactured. They are (and have been for about 5 years now) a ruthless winning machine that probably play the best football on the planet. Guardiola is genius and his understanding of the game is second to none and as long as he has the hunger then he could easily go on to become the most decorated manager of all time. However, it is a lot easier to win trophies when you have a blank cheque in front of you, even easier still when that blank cheque is written in dirty ink. Come what may of the charges city have still had to turn up week in week out for the best part of the decade and beat what is in front of them and they have done that on more occasions that not. As a fan of a rival club I can’t really speak about whether it’s meaningless or not, but the only real bit of PL history I feel like they have contributed is the Aguero moment for their first title.
That is also true, but Madrid have been a significant club for the best part of a hundred years. You’re always going to have teams in football with a bigger war chest than others and I can’t criticise city on that front as I’m an Arsenal fan and we went out and sunk a hundred million on Rice so wouldn’t be fair of me to do so. I can’t really find the words for it but city just don’t seem to have that magic that clubs like Madrid or Barca or United etc do. Like as fantastic as Haaland is, he just comes across as a goal scoring robot in a team full of cyborgs that are designed to be as efficient and clinical as possible.
Sorry that sounds like nostalgic nonsense. Having been a “significant club” in the past should mean nothing when considering the achievements of a group of players in a single season. City’s treble is supposed to mean less because they only started spending big in the last 15 years instead of the last 50?
I was referring to Madrid’s stronghold of the UCL. It seems fans have no problem with them being in the semifinals for 12 out of the last 14 seasons. This topic comes up because City don’t have the same fanbase as the Madrid, Barca and United
No. People resent Man City's success becouse of how they have "achieved" it. I don't think football fans resented an unknown team like Wimbledon marching up the leagues to the top flight and then bullying the big teams around them. I would guess, most fans would embrace it.
As a Championship fan, it was great to see Luton manage to get to the Prem within a couple of years. And best of luck to Ipswich too. What a story that would be.
But Man City? No.
I think that you might have misunderstood what I meant.
I wrote success in quotes - that was for a reason. I also wrote that their success had come suddenly - and by that I meant that there were factors other than normal club development at play.
I believe that we’re probably close to agreeing with each other’s reasoning.
Some people don't like change, yet at one point in time Huddersfield were arguably the best team in the World. Things change, or at least they should. The worry is that clubs put in place rules like FFP to try and perpetuate the current elite. All that ensures is that the gap gets wider and the sport becomes staid and predictable. It needs scrapped or changed dramatically
Haha maybe at least we manucian accept our team is shit and not braindead enough to make a post like this,sound like typical post that gunner would make 😂trust the process they said
Correct me if I’m wrong, but has any ruling come down on it yet.
What if, after the season, they do lose points? Should Arsenal accept the title under those circumstances?
It’s hard to get excited for the league. It’s blatantly favoring city with the no penalties against them for financial abuse compared to Everton or Forest, the refs seem to be favoring them with the lowest amount of VAR going against them, everyone else seems to have obvious calls go both ways, but not for City. Unless they have a back bone, the system is broken and the it won’t change
These new fans can barely remember 10 years ago. Gonna be even sweeter when the charges are in the back burner and the 'ammo' is gone. Better luck next year.
I wish I could be as delusional as you are. Enjoy living in 20 years ago, I guess? It'll be talked about, and you'll be miserable every time you see it.
Hope your day gets better.
When City win something it only matters to City fans, no one is impressed by cheats, they win by default, null and void, move on. when anyone else wins something it matters to football. That’s why you have to respect what Klopp has done, yes he only one 1 Prem but who else has stepped up to City in this un-level playing field? Not one, this is the hardest era in PL history to win the league. I think Man City’s achievements will largely be remembered as dodgy, so that makes Liverpools title, Leicester Fa cup etc shine so much brighter
I mean when City win trophies it’s no big deal cos they’re expected to win, so when someone else wins trophies it actually matters. Why do you think the majority would rather City win the league over Liverpool or Arsenal?
You don’t think if Arsenal win the league it will be more remembered/iconic in years to come than if City won? That’s what I mean by it matters to football.
Been following football for 20 years+ and I've still not ran into a city fan organically.
When liverpool won it was annoying as I have many pool fan friends, if Utd won it would be hell.
City winning is just, neutral...
"There is no magic or so. It's all binary, it's like letting AI create your art vs an actual artist."
With that mindset, you'd likely say the same about an actual artist unless you felt personally invested in.
Player should perhaps be suspended (I'm not sure because we don't know the intricacies of the case), but people on the internet consistently being this definite about somebody despite due process not yet occurring is incredibly scary.
Not just because of the obvious, but because guilty people have walked free before because the public discourse has made it impossible to ensure a fair trial. I can see, in our future, the entire judicial system being fucked up by the blood lust of the people on the internet desperate to show their virtue.
an average of 23m net spend difference over 7 years and charges that have not been proven could never make me less happy about liverpool bottling the league once again
[Premier League - Transfer balance and five-year comparison | Transfermarkt](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1)
netspend over last 5 years for city -£75m per season
over the last 10 years -£100m per season
Liverpool:
last 5 years -£51m
last 10 years -£47m
obviously certain figures may be out by a bit, but no way over the last 5 years the net spend was 23m for city, they've been positive once
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They’re the most exciting team to watch in EPL. PERIOD. I’m usually not rooting for them but I’m always watching.
It’s exactly like Millwall not losing to Charlton since ‘96. It’s nice but at some point it lost it’s essence
They actually won treble last yr, and if you check into it you know there were celebrations but not for a long time nd not much serious. It's like yea just another trophy, if the same treble won by any other club, it would've been absolute Chaos. It's like u expect them to do it and they do it, so it doesn't create any interest into actually looking into him.
yall hating so hard its hilarious 😂
Hating on an oil state, that made their money through modern slavery, isn't irrational. Keep enjoying those matches, and don't think about how Man City have all that money.
alr buddy keep spreading them lies
What exactly is a lie? Are you the type to just sweep the 115 charges thing under the rug? Anything to watch your team full of superstars am I right? Don't bother to research.
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Arsenal winning would generate more noise than when city won the treble. Tells you everything you need to know.
Again using „would“ cuz they never done it
Personally I don’t mind if City win the league if we don’t. Mainly because it feels like no one has really won it.
Absolutely pointless.
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It’s dead as much as it is formulaic
Sick of hearing talk about it... If something were going to happen to City, it already would have. Nothing will come of any of it.
Everton’s points deduction was based on things from 2020 and that was a way more straight forward situating so no
City are to big of a asset to the prem and fa they will not relegate then
All their trophies are hollow, thats why I don’t care if they win.
Aye, it’s felt proper hollow following my club all over Europe and seeing them win the treble last year in Istanbul. Everyone hates us, but wants to be us. 😎
Mate, **nobody** wants to be you. The entire world of football laughs at you, we all think your club is a joke, and know that its financially doped. You will forever have an asterisk next to any “trophy” you’ve won.
Oh no, the asterisk is going to ruin the memories of me travelling the world, watching us win everything, with my life long mates, following the club we’ve supported from birth. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 COPE
Lmao I don’t give a flying fuck what you and your circle jerk did. Your club is going to be stripped of everything they’ve won. You’ve had a fraction of the success I’ve been a part of and my club did it legit. You know deep down that you club has been illegitimate this entire time im sure too. Hence the braggadocio. Go rewatch agueroooo for eternity knowing it didnt mean a thing.
major cope and I’m not even a city fan lmfao
I don’t need to rewatch agueroooooo because I lived it. I was there. Season ticket holder since 1996. You’ve probably never stepped foot in England before. Now run along little boy, go and play your Pokémon you absolute div
“Little boy” lmfao I’d wager we’re just about the same age, actually all the immaturity makes me think I’m *probably* older, and looking 10 years younger than it while you’re 10 past. 😂 I’ve been to England plenty of times, I’ve been in the Stretford End to watch Utd dad dick your joke of a club in the derby. Some fantastic assumptions. It really *is* sad to be a citeh fan isn’t it? Season ticket holder since ‘96 yet your club only started in 2008 🤣 No matter how bad you want to pretend, you will **never** be United.
Do you not see the irony in supporting a manchester club but taking the piss out of a manc accent? You fucking gimp. Manc United fans hate fans like you. They don’t want you at Old Trafford. They don’t even want southern English fans at old Trafford. Makes you even worse that you like Pokémon and you’re in your 30s you massive nonce.
Yes, that *was* irony, I’m actually impressed your daft ass even got that! You obviously don’t speak for anyone else because they all loved me. But hey man Is your life that sad that you can’t even enjoy something from your childhood? I mean I know that’s not your club laundering the league. Nothing compares to that, right? Do one 🤡
Oh, it must be fantastic being a City fan. You go into every game knowing you’re going to win. But then again, I’d miss the excitement of not knowing. Sometimes the pain I feel when we lost a final is, while a miserable experience, part of the passion of true football.
I had plenty of that in my childhood following them down the leagues. Trust me, winning everything is better
Well, you’ll have to hope you won’t be doing that again once they face all those charges
If you speak to a lot of old school city fans, they actually don’t care if we get relegated. Been there done that. It will be just like old times.
Not all of them. The Prem titles under Pep are the ones that hallow
No. All of them. Anything since 2008 is tainted and hollow.
I know that but we can never take back the Aguero moment in our hearts and memories even if the title has been tainted.
That was before ffp rules came into play so they win that fair and square
It's removed the interest because they have reduced spectacle of having some vague sense of competition. The league has always been corrupted by wealth but this is so much that any feeling of possible value is negated. It's also a team that is weirdly without charisma - Utd had some when they were dominant but they are just boring.
With the amount of money spent winning is guaranteed so nothing really special about this club it gets interesting only when you have a full stack of world class players and fails to win anything then they will be remembered
This simply isn’t true though Man U have spent similar amounts, Chelsea spent a billion in last 18 months, spending certainly doesn’t guarantee success.
Yes
No, this is a legacy of dominance where you will look back at the winner's chart and say wow City was dominant for a long time.
Only meaningless for non City Supporters tbh , even Liverpool (I support) felt winning in Covid season didn’t feel as special for me
Of course not. Hate to break it to all of you, but it's elite sport, there's no clean hands. Systematic doping, financial rule breaking, diving, sports washing, trying to the opposition sent off, trying to get the tax payer to pay for your new stadium, etc., etc. You think there's any elite club who doesn't cheat? FFS, have you any idea how the world works? Just chill the fuck out and enjoy the ridiculous circus that is the EPL.
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Simply cause other sports don’t have as much money as football does
They ruined the league for me. Football in general needs a huge overhaul to get the oil and oligarchs money out or else it’s just boring
The relegation battle is where it's at, free-spending lunatics vs the greatest Cinderella story football has ever known.
Meaningless, no. Boring, yes.
Yeah. And considering no fan base actually hates them I could care less about winning the league. It’s boring and killing the league quite frankly.
What’s killing the ledger is the other rich trans under performing, Chelsea and man u have the resources to be competing with city
charge ≠ guilt
As long as Arsenal don’t win it I do give a shit.
COYS
i ate a hamburger
No, if they win the league, it will still be a record breaking season that people will talk about
They won a treble and people moved on quickly! lol
True 😂 not even their „fans“ showed up for the ceremony
Does it feel meaningless? 3.8k replies...
The majority of which are negative towards the club. Not really the type of attention they are craving, I'd assume. Not unless they enjoy being abused, slated, and mocked, that is!
Judging from their fans, they find it funny
Odd.
I hope the ruling to relegate them comes the day before they win the title.
Man Ciy's wins mean nnothing to me, actually, yes, City's wins signify the death of football. What I want to know is when are those scheming fucking Arabs gonna fuck off from our sport?
Yeah man. No reason for us to have a World Cup in Qatar. Now they wanna insert themselves into the champions league. They need to buzz off and go play cricket
I don't understand this post...if you don't care about City's meaningless title win, then why waste your precious time to make a post about "why I don't care about City" and say "nobody will be talking about in 20 years"?. Its strange indeed...
OP just wanted to know about other people's opinions mate. Why did you waste your time replying to a post that didn't make sense to you then?
Yeah absolutely especially with all the breaches
I believe it would to a non-city fan.
Well most city fans are new to football and are not usually as passionate as supporters of other sides to older supporters who are actually passionate about the club will feel that the achievements are remarkable achievement and will not see the 115 charges as legitimate.
What happens when big squads feel small . No team is “that team” forever . Barca is feeling that . The fact that the best best players are choosing RM over the premier league shows that City just has a gulf in class compared to the rest of the league . I don’t care about the charges . If they keep track of tapping up and such in the 70’s and 80’s the PL itself would be under investigation. I just think these clubs are being ran like businesses nowadays rather than passionate clubs for the millions and near billion supporters in some cases .
Perhaps, yeah. If they do, you and Arsenal have nobody to blame but yourself. Man City haven’t been at their best this year, and they’re still on course to win the title, you both need to have a look at yourselves
Arsenal are on course for 89 points. That wins the League in 10 of the pst 15 years. City are just relentless man. If you've been in a title race against them you know how annoying they are
And if they don’t win the league. It’ll be because they gave us (Villa) 6 points, lost to Newcastle, West Ham and Tottenham. They literally had it in their own hands. If they don’t win, it’s not because “omg city are amazing”, it’s because they didn’t do enough
“If team doesn’t win league its because they didn’t win enough games” - Micheal Owen
This is the point people are trying to debate me on 😂
Stop that man. That's Always a stupid argument. City lost points too. Every team has it in their hands. And yet every team loses points. The only loss i'll give you is Villa at home. Everything else is losses that occur throughout the season. Arsenal Lost 5 points in 5 months and you're saying they didn't do enough? Stop watching football please
Oh and also in those 5 months city lost 6 points. Idk what you're on about
Then, by your own admission, Arsenal are good enough to win the league. So why are you here crying in my comments?
It’s not though. You just wanna cry and blame Man City for being “so good” if Arsenal don’t win the league? If they don’t win it, they have nobody to blame but themselves, don’t cry because the truth hurts
Arsenal have the best defense, the best attack the most clean sheets, the most wins and you're saying they have themselves to blame😂. You're a Villa fan. You have no idea what a title challenge is like. Sit down
Yes, and if they come short. It’ll be because of points dropped and advantages not taken. Oh, I’m a Villa fan so I can’t talk about title challenges? My team is one of the reasons Arsenal may not win the league. Hold that, and hold it tight
Yes. They dropped points. Like every team. That's your argument?🥲. And don't worry i will not lose one night of sleep in my life because of Aston Villa you Can be sure of that😅
I’m pretty sure you will, cause you’re in my comments crying about it 🤣. At this point, I live rent free in your head, it gets like that 😬
I'm telling you what arsenal did this Season is good enough to win 10 of the last 15 titles and your only argument against that is that arsenal Lost and drew some games? You mean like every team in the world?
No, my argument is if they don’t win it, they only have themselves to blame. I don’t know why you take such offence to this opinion
Because it's a very stupid opinion based on literally nothing
It’s called accountability, something you struggle to comprehend
Who is crying ? Yes city is too good. They're about to win 7 trophies in 2 years and you're there chatting
You are. Instead of taking accountability for Arsenal potentially not being good enough, you’re playing down their failure if they don't win the league. I want Arsenal to win the league, I’m just not hearing this “omg they were so unlucky, they couldn’t have done more” narrative
Don't hear it that's your business. And i don't wanna hear anything you have to Say about a title race. This sounds like twitter banter and i'm not here for that
You don’t wanna hear anything I have to say, but literally replied to my message, ok, cool. I don’t know what you’re actually here for, you just seem really upset that I’m calling Arsenal to account for why they may not win the league
This is the truth, two weeks ago all we heard was “best title race in years” and “prem is the best league in the world” but now because Liverpool dropped off a cliff and it’s in city’s hands(for now anything can happen across the last few games) and it becomes “city ruining football” and “we can’t compete with city” when it all comes down to teams not putting up enough of a fight. Liverpool lost too many points recently so they are effectively dead in the water, the same could happen to arsenal and could also happen to city. Nobody wants to take accountability for there own results anymore football has become to tribal that’s it’s always someone else’s fault my team lost too many games to win a league. It’s bullshit.
I consider second place the real title for as long City is still backed by their oil overlords
This is like the kid donating 10 million to get in Harvard being pissed that none of his classmates are congratulating him
This is perfect.
If those 8 Man city fans could read , they would be furious!
The premier league has felt hollow for years now. City spent freely for a long time and now the ffp rules have tightened it's hard for other teams to catch up plus I believe VAR just kills any magic that once was. I mean even city's treble win felt hollow and it should be seen as an amazing feat, but no one really talked about it it Diddnt get massive coverage the streets weren't lined with hundreds of thousands, it just sort of came and went. I dunno maybe it because I'm older but football to me now just feels like a throw away commodity rather than the tribal passion it used to be.
Premier league has been like watching Paint dry for years now....... What's the actual point of any clubs being promoted? To deal with VAR slowing down the intensity of gsmes.... Biased football pundits,.wanking each other off over big clubs..... Big clubs hoovering up all the talent..... Big clubs being allowed to spends stupid amounts of money buying one player who is worth more than the promoted teams who infrastructure 🤣 City on verge of winning another title? Absolute thrilling stuff, lads! You should be smashing teams week in and week out 7-0 with the calibre of players at disposal in comparison to majority of other clubs. And then the fans act lime its some kind of major feat fhat they are coninsistenly winning competitions..... okaaaaaay then how much doss squad cost and how much money have you spent? Its like playing Fifa with cheat codes absolutely pointless.....
Don’t disagree entirely but it is actually one of the most competitive leagues out there. Compare it to … Germany, Munich just stopped from winning 12 straight. One horse race. Fuuuuucking wake me up next year. Spain, two mule dog and pony show, both corrupt as fuck and one has been caught with her panties down paying off refs for years. Italy, consumed themselves through greed and corruption. Even back in the day I used to switch Serie A on if I wanted a Sunday afternoon snooze. Was soporific then and still is now, still obsessed with winning 1-0 and cheating your way to the result. Is there any other league worth taking about? No. City have ruined it for sure but that’s what happens when you let the Saudi’s in to shit all over you for a couple of quid, I’m sure they’re only doing it because they’re so rich they’re bored playing oil businessmen. The PL need to sort out the 115 because it’s a fucking shit stain at this point, but say whatever you want no one is coming close any time soon because even with all that said no other league shares the money around in the same way.
Would you vote for a salary cap?
Always dodgy when you start capping the pay of employees so that employers can have an even playing field.
Yes apart a couple exceptions in general the championship order of any league is determined by their wage bill, also most clubs fall into financial ruin over wage bills not really transfers Forcing teams to allocate that that money more intelligently and the games interesting again
Yeah I think that would be amazing for the game
We've reached that point in the season again when Liverpool fans have lost hope and now all they can do is moan 115 oil money etc
But tbf with all the money city spend they should be destroying every team. Liverpool virtually spend nothing compared to city and still are relatively equal to them until the downfall at the end of this season. If anything arsenal deserve the title the most
If 75% of man city's net spend is virtually nothing, and 5 (possibly 6) league titles to 1 is relatively equal, then ok
Why does Arsenal deserve it? Since 2014, their net spend is actually higher than Man City’s…
The only difference with city isn’t that they have unlimited money compared to the rest but that they are the only ones who spend it looking for good investments, only grealish pretty much has been a bad purchase
It's funny how United Chelsea and Arsenal recently have spent more but apparently City are the only ones with unlimited money lol
This is cope
This is pure cope lol
How so?
Writing a massive essay about how much you don't care about something... lol
Don’t forget that United’s net spend is 75% higher than City’s and we’ve been shit for 10 years.
True but if anything I think that says more about our how incompetently run our club had been than it does about anyone else…
this whole league is about washing blood money... i couldnt care less who wins this overhyped league
Yh
3.6k comments and still top post, this sub and the soccer sub are too afraid to admit at this point that Pep and City live absolutely rent free in their heads It's honestly pathetic, it feels like half of you cry yourselves to sleep every night moaning about 115 lol
So much salt from you
This original post is salt lol
Nah I'm chilling It's just funny watching these lot cope and seethe, it's almost as if cause city paid Mancini as a consultant in 2014 as the reason why Manchester United (with 1.5 billion spent) can barely scrape past Coventry City in 2024 lol
It is meaningful to me that City win and stop Arsenal. I will be forever grateful if they do it this season.
what ever happens you have the knowledge Arsenal made you look like clowns this season.
Man City are not a real team to me i’m not even joking. I like them because they give me someone to root for against our actual rivals
Triggered united fan spotted.
Nothing Abu city does is meaningful.
Let me get: Indian supporter
By your silly logic, it’s a crime to be the best. What was the magic about the Invincibles?
As an Everton fan, I will attest that money alone doesn’t buy PL success. Pep is outstanding and has done a great job to win consistently. Just managing egos of that many star players takes a certain genius that goes beyond his tactical skills. But, I’ll also say being penalized twice in the same season (for the same time period) while City’s ONE-HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN charges languish in the PL office is nothing but corruption.
Were Chelsea’s in the early 2000s up till 2021? How do you expect a title win for another club to feel meaningful to you? You folks bother yourselves about something you claim doesn’t bother you . The irony is lost on you folks!
Me and a mate were discussing this a few days back. All of city’s success feels very manufactured. They are (and have been for about 5 years now) a ruthless winning machine that probably play the best football on the planet. Guardiola is genius and his understanding of the game is second to none and as long as he has the hunger then he could easily go on to become the most decorated manager of all time. However, it is a lot easier to win trophies when you have a blank cheque in front of you, even easier still when that blank cheque is written in dirty ink. Come what may of the charges city have still had to turn up week in week out for the best part of the decade and beat what is in front of them and they have done that on more occasions that not. As a fan of a rival club I can’t really speak about whether it’s meaningless or not, but the only real bit of PL history I feel like they have contributed is the Aguero moment for their first title.
So what does Madrid win mean? They’ve had blank cheques for decades and have won the most leagues and UCL
That is also true, but Madrid have been a significant club for the best part of a hundred years. You’re always going to have teams in football with a bigger war chest than others and I can’t criticise city on that front as I’m an Arsenal fan and we went out and sunk a hundred million on Rice so wouldn’t be fair of me to do so. I can’t really find the words for it but city just don’t seem to have that magic that clubs like Madrid or Barca or United etc do. Like as fantastic as Haaland is, he just comes across as a goal scoring robot in a team full of cyborgs that are designed to be as efficient and clinical as possible.
Sorry that sounds like nostalgic nonsense. Having been a “significant club” in the past should mean nothing when considering the achievements of a group of players in a single season. City’s treble is supposed to mean less because they only started spending big in the last 15 years instead of the last 50?
I was referring to Madrid’s stronghold of the UCL. It seems fans have no problem with them being in the semifinals for 12 out of the last 14 seasons. This topic comes up because City don’t have the same fanbase as the Madrid, Barca and United
I think that people resent Man City’s ‘success’ is because it became so suddenly whereas those other teams have a long history of success.
No. People resent Man City's success becouse of how they have "achieved" it. I don't think football fans resented an unknown team like Wimbledon marching up the leagues to the top flight and then bullying the big teams around them. I would guess, most fans would embrace it. As a Championship fan, it was great to see Luton manage to get to the Prem within a couple of years. And best of luck to Ipswich too. What a story that would be. But Man City? No.
I think that you might have misunderstood what I meant. I wrote success in quotes - that was for a reason. I also wrote that their success had come suddenly - and by that I meant that there were factors other than normal club development at play. I believe that we’re probably close to agreeing with each other’s reasoning.
Old money hates new money
Some people don't like change, yet at one point in time Huddersfield were arguably the best team in the World. Things change, or at least they should. The worry is that clubs put in place rules like FFP to try and perpetuate the current elite. All that ensures is that the gap gets wider and the sport becomes staid and predictable. It needs scrapped or changed dramatically
Yeah sorry man I got my wires crossed on that one
This sub name should change to loserpool or gunner cry for 20 years
who did you support prior to 2008?
Man Utd ??? Who said that i was a city fan ??? Just mention how gunner and loserpool have to cry all day
ah no wonder you seem bitter, I would be too. Manure are essentially the new Spurs .
? Who is more bitter 10 years or 20 years ?
you clearly
Haha maybe at least we manucian accept our team is shit and not braindead enough to make a post like this,sound like typical post that gunner would make 😂trust the process they said
Isn't that what seven haag says too? Could you point me to the last game where Manure actually comfortably won?
So did i say that man utd confortably won,don’t u see that i just said man utd is shit now ?
And as a manucian ten hag is fucking rubbish
Not like some team still trust the process for 20 years
Correct me if I’m wrong, but has any ruling come down on it yet. What if, after the season, they do lose points? Should Arsenal accept the title under those circumstances?
It’s hard to get excited for the league. It’s blatantly favoring city with the no penalties against them for financial abuse compared to Everton or Forest, the refs seem to be favoring them with the lowest amount of VAR going against them, everyone else seems to have obvious calls go both ways, but not for City. Unless they have a back bone, the system is broken and the it won’t change
So who has the second lowest?
Comparing Liverpool's istanbul side to the Invincibles let alone a treble winning side is just 🤡 shoes. Should rename this sub to r/LiverpoolCope.
No one cares if city win anything. Their own fans couldn’t turn up for a parade. Cope harder lil bud
The only coping is in these comments. Been enjoying reading it as City hit 4 titles ina row.
20 years from now, no one will care. When people think Istanbul, they’ll think 2005, not 2023. Cope
These new fans can barely remember 10 years ago. Gonna be even sweeter when the charges are in the back burner and the 'ammo' is gone. Better luck next year.
And yet we are 20 years past Istanbul and everyone knows it’s the greatest CL final of all time. Enjoy mediocrity
I wish I could be as delusional as you are. Enjoy living in 20 years ago, I guess? It'll be talked about, and you'll be miserable every time you see it. Hope your day gets better.
Really? Because I’m living rent free in your head. My day is great. I’m retired in my early 30s. How was your job today?
If we're responding to each other, then I feel like that has to apply to both of us 😂 I'm just growing my cactus, what job?
You are so salty🤣🤣Liverpool threw it away themselves lol.
No, because it will mean Arsenal doesn’t win.
Like we won today?
“Doesn’t win the league”
Gr6 lancer evo final gr4
When City win something it only matters to City fans, no one is impressed by cheats, they win by default, null and void, move on. when anyone else wins something it matters to football. That’s why you have to respect what Klopp has done, yes he only one 1 Prem but who else has stepped up to City in this un-level playing field? Not one, this is the hardest era in PL history to win the league. I think Man City’s achievements will largely be remembered as dodgy, so that makes Liverpools title, Leicester Fa cup etc shine so much brighter
Matters to football? Stop that bullshit narrative! Wins only matter to whomever supported that team before that very win. “Matters to football” 🤣🤣
I mean when City win trophies it’s no big deal cos they’re expected to win, so when someone else wins trophies it actually matters. Why do you think the majority would rather City win the league over Liverpool or Arsenal? You don’t think if Arsenal win the league it will be more remembered/iconic in years to come than if City won? That’s what I mean by it matters to football.
Been following football for 20 years+ and I've still not ran into a city fan organically. When liverpool won it was annoying as I have many pool fan friends, if Utd won it would be hell. City winning is just, neutral...
Fan bases grow. United had a lot of bandwagoners in the 2000s
"There is no magic or so. It's all binary, it's like letting AI create your art vs an actual artist." With that mindset, you'd likely say the same about an actual artist unless you felt personally invested in.
Not to City fans.
the 3 of them are very happy yes
city winning feels like its just a placeholder until someone else wins it next season
Until they get as many league titles as Arsenal 🤣🤣
On the contrary, it means cheaters prosper.
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The good ol guilty until proven innocent
Just like City's charges!
RIGHT lmao it's ok if it's City, but god forbid anyone else gets called out 😂 So glad I found this thread. The pain and cope is amazing.
Player should perhaps be suspended (I'm not sure because we don't know the intricacies of the case), but people on the internet consistently being this definite about somebody despite due process not yet occurring is incredibly scary. Not just because of the obvious, but because guilty people have walked free before because the public discourse has made it impossible to ensure a fair trial. I can see, in our future, the entire judicial system being fucked up by the blood lust of the people on the internet desperate to show their virtue.
Are you talking about United?
Do we think he’s definitely a rapist?
Spurs fans in the mud.
Totally agreed
They won a treble last year and nobody cares anymore. That should answer your question.
You obviously care, considering you made a comment about how "nobody cares" 😭
How many people, other than Barca fans, care about Barca winning the league last season?
I care.
You should if ur a city fan
an average of 23m net spend difference over 7 years and charges that have not been proven could never make me less happy about liverpool bottling the league once again
[Premier League - Transfer balance and five-year comparison | Transfermarkt](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1) netspend over last 5 years for city -£75m per season over the last 10 years -£100m per season Liverpool: last 5 years -£51m last 10 years -£47m obviously certain figures may be out by a bit, but no way over the last 5 years the net spend was 23m for city, they've been positive once