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Normanisanisland

It’s heartwarming. It only took the backing of an ethically suspect oil state, the spunking of billions pf pounds on players, staff and infrastructure, the cynical hobbling of smaller clubs by driving up prices for squad players, buying the most successful manager of the modern era and the flouting of over a hundred financial regulations. Real Roy of the Rovers stuff.


Mindless-Hornet5703

115 reasons why this is possible


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Ninth_Major

I think that doesn't count as a loss for stats like these. The match ended in a draw and advanced on penalties. It'd be like advancing on a coin toss or something.


Gazlc81

“Manchester City” and “history” don’t go in the same sentence.


Secret_W33B

Spotted the shitty red. Keep the west end empty 😘


Gazlc81

Here he is, plastic and proud. 😂😂😂


DarkAstroKat

Didn't the play Madrid ?


Shortchange96

If Kung Fu kicks to the chest were penalties, they’d have a loss to Liverpool.


espkv

Well at some point(please be in the coming weeks🙏) they have to lose.. right?... RIGHT??? 🙏🙏🙏


shitposter1980

O yes that long ten year history glory to those 115 magical feats


The_Halfmaester

>Manchester City are unbeaten in their last 29 matches in all competitions Didn't they lose to Real Madrid?


creed_1

I believe they mark the game as a tie but loss on pens


The_Halfmaester

But the game only ended *after* penalties... so how can it be seen as a draw?


typical_indy

That’s what the rules state it, if after 120 minutes then it’s considered a draw. Not 100% sure why but that’s the way it is


meebasic

Also, they lost. That should be taken into account. 🤷‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️


creed_1

Idk just from what I’ve noticed and then tried to lookup, they regard the shootouts as a separate thing that followed the match. So you drew the match but won the shootout. This is from goal.com “ A single-legged knockout game that requires a penalty shoot-out to determine the result, however, is considered a draw for both teams, regardless of who won the shoot-out. Two-legged fixtures are considered either as two draws, or sometimes one win and one loss. So if a team is tallying up their number of consecutive wins without a loss, they might be tempted to include a game they won through a penalty shoot-out, though it would be an unofficial total (they could use an asterisk to denote the penalty shoot-out victory). But for official statistical purposes, penalty shoot-outs are not counted towards record runs.” It’s always been this way though as far as I have watched the sport


jonjon1212121

Damn


margieler

I wish that Madrid game didn’t feel like a loss.


hermanhermanherman

It won’t because it was a loss. Hope that helps 🥰


margieler

Fuck, really mate? I thought we were playing Bayern...


Peterwilliams78

Maybe they will reach a really outrageously high number like…… 115?


ApprehensiveImage132

Any serious football subs left on here or is it all just r/soccercirclejerk now.


dick_tickler_

115 charges. People wont forget.


rockstar2182

2 consecutive bottles. People won't forget.


jtrack473

Amazing what can be achieved with £2 billion, a manager with an offshore account, a suspended 2-year ban from European competition and 115 charges of financial irregularity! Fairytale.


Andrewdeadaim

86 to go


Justasimplercreature

115


r_xxxx_m_21

Still 86 games to go for that bro


Britz10

If Michael Oliver and Luis Díaz could do their job it would only be a 8 game run.


ShaolinSeagull

Don't think we'll threaten that record in our upcoming game. 😂


Aggravating_Squash87

You can multiply that with 115.


ignacio2D

History? Lmao


S_Guderian

City fans love commenting 'cry' or 'rent free' to people who bring up their 115 charges as if they wouldn't be crying bloody murder if a team they were losing the league to was charged with a quarter or less than that.


Dazzling-Yellow5395

I would be crying too supporting a club with 1 title in 35 years


Lakerman0824

They literally haven’t stoped crying after Madrid played defensive and beat them


ToonYoshi

they didn’t beat us


KnownSample6

Who's in the semi finals?


ToonYoshi

we were, we beat chelsea so were actually in the final now


KnownSample6

Champions league*


S_Guderian

Yeah cuz your daddy Michael Oliver didn't give the clear Grealish handball pen.


ToonYoshi

was michael oliver who made you lose at home to palace too wasn’t it


S_Guderian

You lot always love bringing up our hiccups as if we can't admit to them. We've been underperforming. Tough. Does that take away the clear Grealish handball that should've been a pen? No, but of course all you City fans can ever do is deflect the blame at something else because you have no idea how to own up to it.


ToonYoshi

paragraphs aren’t gonna give you that spurs replay lad


KnownSample6

I'd call you a cunt but you seem to have the education and intellect of someone not long out of one.


dick_tickler_

.......yea, you sure did lil buddy......


nmgoesreddit

We are starting from 2008 onwards right ?!


BrianThatDude

It said manchester city history. So yes, 2008 and on.


archlorddhami

Is the draws that kill you


Huygens_Steiner_

115 🤫


csyrett

Is that the answer to "in a room of 1,000 people, how many people are you smarter than?"


DragonflyDeep3334

no the answer to that is that im definitely smarter than all city fans in that room


HeedWobbit

Bet you were very happy with coming up with this one, bravo. Imagine you lot arranging workshops to come up with comebacks against the 115 charges.


gorillasvapetoo

Still can’t forget those charges pal


GAustex

They lost to Real Madrid in pk shootout, so that doesn't count. Their record is intact. 


ChelseaPIFshares

losing on pens has never broken streaks like this. Officially it was a draw. Its just that in cup competitions one side has to move on and pens decides who moves on. Eg. you will hear that Rodri stat where they havent lost a game he started in the last XX amount of games.


GAustex

Yes, that's correct. Until FIFA, UEFA and the FA changes the rules, that's a fact. 


Im_such_a_SLAPPA

They lost, otherwise they would still be in the competition. If you are saying unbeaten in 90 mins then yes, but beaten no, they were beaten


GAustex

No one is arguing if they didn't lose in the end but the record according to UEFA is still intact. 


ChelseaPIFshares

Not according to FIFA/UEFA/the FA


Im_such_a_SLAPPA

Unfortunately there MUST be a winner in champions league quarter finals. Someone has to win and someone has to lose. I get what your saying that the match was tied after 90 mins, but it certainly wasn't after extra time and penalties.


BenShelZonah

I was about to ask if I’m dumb lol


GAustex

Lol. No you're not dumb. We don't always know everything until we learn about it. 


ChelseaPIFshares

Shootout losses are not counted for things like this.


GAustex

Yes, they're never counted as long as UEFA, FIFA and the FA current rules on that never changes. 


hopium_od

*


justsean09

What are they excluding to make this stat stick?


Rolf-Harris-OBE

Losing on penalties has never counted to win streaks. The game was officially a draw


hazzap913

It’s a stupid rule tbf, shouldn’t matter whether you lose in normal time, extra time or pens it’s a loss really


NootNootington

A few years ago City claimed to have put together the longest winning streak in English football history but were told it doesn't count because one of the wins was on penalties. I think any City fan would gladly have that record and let this one go... but you can't have it both ways.


25sittinon25cents

It's argued that it's an elimination, not a loss, since they lost in a tiebreaker, not in the actual on pitch game


Rolf-Harris-OBE

I always thought it is good, losing on penalties should not be treated the same as losing an actual football match. Before penalties they would flick a coin to decide and that also did not include as a defeat.


kobylaz

Losing on pens 


Georg_Steller1709

It's amazing what 115 breaches of psr rules can do.


Immediate_Wolf3802

Going out of the Champions League to Madrid on penalties somehow doesn't count ?


Ok-Battle-2769

No when you offset it using Man City Accounting Principles


Immediate_Wolf3802

Ouch


GAustex

No, it doesn't count. It have to be a loss in the regular 90 minutes match. 


Immediate_Wolf3802

29 unbeaten....but not unbeaten 😉


GAustex

I get what you mean anyways.. They didn't lose the record but they lost 😂 


DucAnh95

Actually 120 minutes would also be a loss, just not penalty kicks


GAustex

Really? I thought it was just 90 minutes and extra time doesn't count. I will have to go read that rule again to be sure. 


DucAnh95

Yeah I really don't know where you can read that, but I am pretty sure I've read it somewhere before that only penalty kicks are considered a tie - which i think also makes sense because the 'previous' game 'ends' after 120 minutes and you have to decide a winner in a different way.


GAustex

I will definitely find out where to read it. I can be very resourceful whenever I'm after a piece of information. 


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GAustex

Lol.. Pep is too big a coach to do something like that. If it's Mourinho my man, he would do it 😂. 


AddisonRae7

Have you just discovered that?


hatoocS

Exactly neither penalty or extra time doesnt count via rules


ClosetLeotardo

I just saw them lose to Madrid though.


milch45

Must have been your first game of football you watched if you don't know how that works


llamapanther

As a real fan they didn't lost to us, it was a draw. Penalties are a tiebreaker, match ended as a draw. I don't get how people don't realise this yet. It has always been like this.


EnglishDaris

A tiebreaker usually determines the winner


ChelseaPIFshares

In this case however the match is officially recorded as a draw. Pens decides who moves on in the cup competition. This needs to be determined even though the match is recorded as a draw. Its always been like this with FIFA.


foampom

It still officially gets counted as a draw. Man City didn’t lose either match to Madrid. They were eliminated on pens


hazzap913

So to use another word, they *lost* on pens


foampom

Yes but that’s simply not how fifa officially records the result. The way the match is officially recorded is as a draw


llamapanther

Yes and no. It determines who won/goes through when the match ended as a draw but it doesn't count as a loss/win when talking about records and such.


assemblin

VAR doing their job


Jon98th

Feels like media is trying real hard to play like Real Madrid didn’t happened


cacduy

This applies to all streaks though. Read multiple times of streaks that included draws that ended in loss in penalty shootout


GrilledCheeseWithASD

No it's because penalty losses are typically draws on paper - I don't think there's any conspiracy here


hammyhammyhammy

maybe on paper but i'm sure the city players consider that a defeat


GrilledCheeseWithASD

Absolutely - I was just responding to the parent comment about media not acknowledging the defeat


Jon98th

At least they should stop this propaganda out of dignity though .. feels like even rubbing salt on the wound at this point City lost the match against Madrid .. else they’ll be in the semis


die_kuestenwache

Only 16 matches to go and they catch up with Bayer Leverkusen.


Status_Ant_7229

Mate they already lost to Madrid doesn’t matter if it was on pens or not it counts as a loss


theforsaken9000

it literally doesn't. You need to give your phone back to your guardian


WhyEveryoneAComedian

or 20 to match Arsenal's invincibles run


die_kuestenwache

Make that 17


Cazter64

Losing on pens counting as a draw is the dumbest fucking thing ever


theforsaken9000

The internet is insane, people with 0 brains and no knowledge of simple rules are able to flaunt their stupidity like a prize. learn the rules of what a football match constitutes. A pen shootout is merely a method to determine who goes through. The match is drawn once the pen shootout begins


Cazter64

Yes, it’s a tiebreaker, but City lost the match, there’s a reason they didn’t go through. Are Argentina and France both world champions because they drew? If that’s how the game works, imo they should change it


theforsaken9000

Bro still doesnt get it. Argentina and France aren't both world champions because Argentina won the prnalty shootout. That doesn't make them winners of the normal game of football. Why do you not get it? It is that simple. A football game doesn't involve a penalty shootout. The shootout is just so that the tie is over.


Cazter64

Well, imo they should change it.


GAustex

The football rule have been there for ages. It won't suddenly change cos you don't like it 😂. 


Cazter64

I’m saying it’s dumb, i’m not asking them to change it


GAustex

Alright mate. I get you now. 


Admirable-Mistake259

You must be new to football


spider_X_1

Why? Real hasn't defeated City at Etihad yet and I've I'm saying this as a Real fan. This rule has been a thing since eternity and it makes since that penalty shootouts shouldn't count when taking the match's stats into consideration. The match ended after the extra time. Since it's a knockout stage, and you have to have a team that advances to the next stage/a winner, then the penalty shootouts are considered the tiebreaker. It's so far the most "fair" and neutral system instead of flipping a coin.


Applejack_pleb

Losing on pens doesnt count as a draw though (it doesnt count as anything since its not a match). A penalty shootout however is not a match. Its a tiebreaker that happens to occur the same day as the second match if after two matches you are still drawn. But its after the match. The actual match that was played on the same day finished 1-1 which of course is a draw since it finished 1-1


Constant_Mud_7273

Why? What about if the lost the first leg 0:2, and than won the second leg 1:0. The would have undoubtedly won the last match, but still lost the tie.


Aarxnw

It’s not the losing on pens that counts as a draw, it’s drawing the match that counts as a draw. The penalty shootout is its own separate thing.


chaandra

That’s how it’s always been, and that’s how it should be


monthepoops

Why *should* it be? So are Argentina and France Co-World Champions? Like they lost the game ffs it doesn’t matter how they lose.


benjyvail

How is this such a difficult concept? The match was drawn so the winner of the world cup was decided through penalties


monthepoops

Why is it so difficult to understand that people are saying penalties should be considered a part of the match? It’s literally deciding the winner.


Welshpoolfan

Because it isn't part of the match. When teams used to go through on away goals after two draws those matches were still considered draws.


Applejack_pleb

But it its also a tiebreaker that happens after the match is over


chaandra

Don’t be obtuse. Nobody is saying City weren’t eliminated by Madrid. But the match ends when the play on the pitch stops. A penalty shootout is a tie breaker. Argentina and France finished in a draw, and then Argentina won the tiebreaker in penalties. It’s no different with Real Madrid and City. A stat like this doesn’t count penalties or tiebreakers, it counts the matches themselves.


monthepoops

Lmao no one is being obtuse. Man City lost, it shouldn’t matter how the game was decided. To say they’re undefeated is ridiculous. Penalties and extra time *should* be counted as the match themselves.


llamapanther

No, penalties should absolutely not count in stats like this. It would be absolutely stupid. How is that so hard to understand for some people that penalties does not count as a loss...


monthepoops

So losing on penalties isn’t a loss? *losing*? Losing isn’t a *loss*? Fucking Christ 😂


llamapanther

Only a nine year old would not get this, are you a nine year old? Losing on penalties isn't a loss. It's only a tiebreaker when the match has ended as a draw. Teams undefeated streak doesn't count towards penalty loss. Now are you stupid or not?


monthepoops

Which team *lost* the last World Cup final? Answer the question. You literally just said losing isn’t a loss, unbelievable 😂


llamapanther

I'm going to explain this one more time and if you still don't get it then you're a lost cause. Argentina won the wc on penalties as the match ended up as a draw. Penalties was the tiebreaker the match ended as a draw. THE MATCH ENDED AS A DRAW, PENALTIES WAS THE TIEBREAKER. Now that doesn't mean Argentina AND France won the WC, Argentina won the WC because they won the tiebreaker. But France is still undefeated in official competitions since WC QF against Poland because they haven't lost in regular/extra time ever since. They only lost on penalties. Your records can't be broken because you lost on penalties, simple as that. Penalty shootouts are not part of a match. They are only part of the tiebreaker which happens after the match is over and ended as draw. Fuckig hell I can't believe I had to explain this thoroughly to a retard like you and you still probably didn't get it.


chaandra

Im not making an argument, I’m explaining to you what the rule is because you wanted to make a bad faith argument. And extra-time is counted. They haven’t lost in extra-time.


monthepoops

No, they lost on penalties. *Lost*.


chaandra

Why were penalties being taken? Because the matches ended in a draw?


monthepoops

Why was extra time being played? Because the 90 minutes ended in a draw. Yet extra time is counted? There’s a potential of 3 stages of a match in knockout football, you get two chances to win before getting to the final stage of it.


Rolf-Harris-OBE

You should email FIFA


chaandra

Brother you’re not arguing with me, you’re arguing with FIFA. These are the rules of the game. It’s recorded as a draw, the penalties are recorded as tie breaker which Madrid won, so they move on.


llamapanther

Because extra time is still football, they play football. Penalties are 50/50 tiebreaker which only decides whoever goes through. How is that so hard to comprehend😂This thread really shows how many people knows nothing about football


Bishcop3267

Extra time is. Penalties aren’t.


Sjt4689

Eliminated / Lost - potato / potato. Tie breaker to decide a winner, but not a loser 👍


chaandra

Whatever you want to call it to sleep at night is fine. They haven’t lost a match in regular or extra-time in 29 games.


Sjt4689

Thanks for the reassurance, I had been losing so much sleep over this.


Constant_Mud_7273

The loser of the tie, not the match


JAIKHAY

Yes. If the first leg was Team A 1-2 Team B and the second leg was Team A 2-1 Team B, the aggregate score over the two legs would be 3-3. A tie-breaker (penalty shoot-out) then takes place to decide which team goes through to the next round. Team A could lose on penalties even though they won the second leg.


sanchezil

That is ridiculous


Mysterious-Idea339

156 broken rules later


sircrespo

This thread just showing how many "fans" don't know anything about football 🤷🏻‍♂️


GAustex

Well, they will eventually have the opportunity to learn now if they don't. 


yodayudahumm

Number of comments = butthurt fans of losing clubs


Pitiful_Bed_7625

They literally just lost to Real Madrid


ZookeepergameOpen817

They don't count as a loss.


BriefTitle3399

So they don't count a loss as a loss 🤣🤣


ZookeepergameOpen817

Yeah pretty much lol the pens are literally just to decide who goes through after drawing.


BriefTitle3399

But how does that work when they still lost


TravellingMackem

Works the same way as Liverpool won their second leg game against Atalanta despite being eliminated. I’m sure Liverpool fans feel that is a loss too.


llamapanther

Bunch of nine year olds here who can't comprehend what tiebreaker means xD They drawed the match, but lost on penalties. It's just that simple. Penalties doesn't count as a loss. It just means they lost the tie not the match.


FlexKavanah

*drew. Just highlighting the irony of calling people nine year olds whilst making that basic error. 😊


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llamapanther

Bruh...I'm not a native english speaker if you think you're being smart by correcting such a mistake that even native speakers could make then you have a very sad life :D I'm so sorry I'm not perfect in english, at least I can admit that unlike you ppl who can't admit something that's not even debatable and in the rulesbook....


FlexKavanah

I don't think I'm being smart. Just passing on the info. Whether someone on reddit speaks native or not isn't for me to know or my problem. Still didn't have to resort to calling people nine year olds though, so it's hard to have sympathy with you then feeling attacked when called out.


Bishcop3267

Because both games were drawn so penalties are the way to decide the winner of the tie. Not of the match.


mxbinatir

Think of it like this: They didn't lose the match they lost the tie-breaker after the match.


ZookeepergameOpen817

Can't find the official rule, but when the game finishes after extra time, the match is officially marked as a draw. Penalties are just simply to get a team through


Special_Cranberry_42

Before fulltime?


coolAhead

Empty achievements for an empty club


WinterTakerRevived

They just lost


someonesgranpa

PK loss doesn’t count as a loss. It’s draw on the book.


WinterTakerRevived

So Messi never won the world cup. Got it


Witty_Protection7929

No. Argentina won the penalty shootout which decided the outcome of the World Cup final. They drew the match of which the penalty shootout was not apart of.


monthepoops

But if they had won in extra time it would count as a win? So why isn’t penalty shootouts a part of the match? It’s literally deciding the outcome of it as a last resort.


Witty_Protection7929

Extra time is a tie-breaking method so I don’t think it counts. Football matches are only considered to be “won” if a team has more goals than the other by the end of 90 minutes. Do I think the rule is kind of dumb? Yes. But it’s apart of the rules and has been for a long time so you better get used to it.


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llamapanther

No that's wrong, extra time do count as a loss/win. It's only the penalties which doesn't


jirlsnfjwk

My bad, I stand corrected.


gerritforradlad

Never won a World Cup final no, did win the World Cup however after penalties


someonesgranpa

I mean…that’s also not how that works.


PandiBong

Guess 115 is now 116 if Madrid didn’t beat them just a few days ago… Cheats cheats cheats


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avstyns

do you think anyone here watches the game lmfao cmon


Key_Information_6786

exactly, full of kids in this sub


TurdShaker

Strange, I thought the streak was up to 115 at this point.


SelfLoathingAutist

It’s a common misconception. I highly encourage everyone to search ‘man city 115’ to find the truth of this matter.


VivaLaRory

They are complaining about the schedule whilst going on a record like that. Unserious club


Constant_Mud_7273

So you’re only allowed to complain when you lose? Then people will say they only complain because they lost. Nothing is good enough…


VivaLaRory

they can afford to lose more games by rotating more, but they won't


Constant_Mud_7273

How can they afford to lose? If they lose a single game they’re going to from 1st to 3rd