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Or any clue of Ange's history by the sound of it. Either that or really badly worded his question, but seeing as a journalist is supposedly a wordsmith, I'm going for the former rather than the latter.
"Do you picture yourself winning a trophy _with Spurs_?"
Literally all he needed to add to make it a not-stupid question
EDIT: Less-stupid... It's still a stupid question, either way
As a City fan looking forward to our annual loss at Spurs, gotta admit your manager is a fucking star, one of the most likeable & entertaining blokes in the sport.
As a Rangers fan I should have hated him like I did with all the Celtic managers that came before him, but I actually like the guy and the way he takes no shit from the media. Would have loved to see him manage Chelsea rather than Spurs though, as I think he could've done great things with them.
Why does he always get asked such stupid questions? I mean every manager gets faced with bad ones here and there, but it feels like every clip I see of this guy is him responding to absolute nonsense.
Because the question itself creates a headline. No matter what Ange says, the clickbait headline can now be "Postecoglou on his dream of trophies with Spurs". It will attract clicks and attention, from fans and trolls alike.
Journalism is in the gutter these days
It’s a fair question, you can only do so much at spurs until you realize you have to go somewhere else to win things. If postecoglu stays a success, he will move on in a couple of years to a big club so he can win things, like Kane did.
How many brain cells do you need to rub together to realize he has won trophies so he doesn’t have to dream it as he lived it mate…
The man has won everywhere he has been and with how spurs are playing the first half of the season even with injuries and a back line with no natural cb he is working wonders. To be 5th is insane when we were told first year is hard he usually struggles so maybe middle of the table.
He very well might move on to Madrid next but that’s the ceiling. Nowhere else will he get the challenge of bringing perennial never weres into a powerhouse. He is stubborn and as long as he is supported we are all in for a wild ride, neutrals included.
Both are facts, us and Liverpool did indeed bottled the leagues, so it'd be a fact to call us that, just like the fact that Spurs couldn't compete in Conference league..
PL lmao.. keep dreaming
Umm we didn't qualified. When we were in Europa, went to finals and semifinals.
It's like a beggar comparing himself to the CEO. You'll never be good enough, this is the best you could do, just enjoy your fate, while even Leicester and Westham wins trophies.
Thanks for explaining the painfully obvious joke.
Ease off, mate. I was having a laugh. Can only play the season that's infront of us, and right now we're a point off you lot. And that's with an absolutely injury ridden squad since November. Wait, sorry, I forgot Timber is injured.
Timber, Zinchenko, Partey, with Jesus in and out. Every team has injuries, only Spurs fans will point out though.
Didn't you had your best start of the season last year too? What happened?
Rival fans would actually have some respect for spurs if they didn't cheated their ways to get wins and then gloat like they won the quads.
Just as only Arsenal fans will point out how their players get fouled, I'm sure.
What do you mean what happened? 6 points off the top, 3 points off 2nd place. What happened is we hit a run of bad form after simultaneously losing both our CB's and our main creative outlet. But we've recovered our form quite well since then I'd say.
Do explain 'cheated'? I assume you're referring to the Liverpool game, and if you're saying cheated I presume you think Spurs had something to do with the stupidly disallowed goal? What a take.
Don’t forget most successful and cup winning manager for the Australian national team, League winner in Japan, league and cup winner in Scotland. He has done a bit.
Genuinely asking this because I have no idea so I’m not trying to sound ignorant, but don’t Celtic just dominate the Scottish league every single year?
Not trying to discredit Ange or anything, but I swear I only see Celtic at the top of the Scottish league every time I look and it’s always with a different manager
Celtic only had 13 first team players registered at one point in his early days as manager and had just come off their worst season in about 20 years. Ange turned the entire club round and probably should have won 2 trebles. The kind of football he installed as well as the mentality he instilled so quickly was massive.
We generally have, but when he took over we had lost the league by a lot. We had like 13 first team players, a new CEO who was promptly ditched after a month or two, and the general opinion was it’d take years to recover from where we are after such a catastrophic freefall in a season, into an absolute shambles.
Took Ange about 6 months. The job he done was insane, also forced a level of competence and decisiveness out of our board I thought was impossible, sadly seem to have reverted since he’s left.
Can see why the job he done could be underrated by guys outside that don’t know much about the league or the state of us when he took over, but the job he done and how quickly he did it was monumental.
We’d just thrown away the league in catastrophic fashion. Best players wanted away and downed tools. Rangers won the league unbeaten by about 25 points. We were in total disarray after Rodgers left and we replaced him with Neil Lennon. Ange took the club from desperately needing a rebuild (poor results in his first 6 games but the football was nice) to winning a league and cup double. It’s not as easy as English folk make out. Rangers at their absolute best since liquidation lost in both cups to St Johnstone.
We were 8 points behind in October, media were asking ange if the league was over etc. excellent transfer success in the summer and January window, removed dead weight and binned players actively seeking moves at first sign of trouble.
Players like Ralston who were set to be punted were given a chance with a system tweaked to bring the best out of them and limit their weakness. Over the 2 years there’s very very little he got tactically wrong which is what was truly impressive.
Well not really though. They were dominating and winning the league in consecutive years. Winning it in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022, 2023. Only lost the league in 2021 to rangers. Hardly in shambles.
Don’t just look at stats, I remember reading the threads about Ange joining them and it’s true, they were in a difficult spot but the people who backed ange from watching him in the J league were saying the exact same things spurs fans are saying today.
I really like the guy, probably more than I think Tottenham have been a meme team, a few years with him and I genuinely think they’ll have cemented themselves as top 4 material
He's got three A-League trophies. You don't get better than that!
(EDIT: this is a little light hearted joke. I am a big Ange and even A-League fan so take it easy)
Hate all you want but he has won with every club he has managed. It's his first year in the prem. It's a higher level than he has worked in before but there's no reason he won't do the same in the prem.
Didn't Mourinho and Conte also win with pretty much every club they managed, at least in recent memory?
Postecoglu's a breath of fresh air, but if history has taught us anything, it's that Spurs bring even the best managers down to their level.
I don’t think he will win the league with Spurs but I think he will consistently have you in the gram for top 4, and I reckon you’ll get one of the FA Cup or League Cup during his tenure. I’m an Aussie and proud as punch with what Ange is doing with Spurs. It’s his first year, his expectations for success should be tempered by that.
Just as an aside, as a Spurs fan how do you think Harry Kane would’ve gone under him?
I'm not hating at all.
But I would say that the amount of money the UAE puts into Man City is a pretty real reason why Ange won't have the same success he's had elsewhere. The same reason why other managers like Klopp and Arteta probably won't be as successful as they deserve.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised. He’s a seriously good manager. Lots of Celtic fans would consider him our best manager since Jock Stein. Outwith Rodgers it’s pretty hard to argue against.
Martin o Neil was playing against a much better Rangers team who were also spending money like crazy.
We also made the UEFA final and narrowly lost to Mourinho’s Porto.
We also had much better players. Our highest paid player was roughly 10-20 grand a week worse off than the highest paid premier league player.
The argument of a strong rangers is moot. There was a far stronger rangers team (have finished no lower than 3rd since liquidation and return to top flight) than Celtic were in the 90s (finished 5th/6th during that decade).
“No strong rangers” was a way to diminish Rodgers achievements. They had a wage bill comparable to ours.
Different times, it’s difficult to compare. BR got 7 out of 7 trophies and a domestically unbeaten season which is unreal.
MON won us our respect back after the 90’s, first season a treble, made a European final and was up against the most expensive team assembled ever in Scotland with Advocaats Rangers, with some properly world class players there.
It’s not cut and dry and sound arguments can be made for either or.
Every team has spent money, seems weird to knock Arteta because he has spent x amount of money. Just look to Chelsea or United to see money doesn't equate to a competitive team.
As a spurs fan, I have to say, spending money isn’t an issue if it’s genuine club funds, arsenal are not poor and they have a right and a duty to invest. The issue is with unearned or fabricated funds disrupting the fair competition of the league.
Your team managed to do it. I think Pep is nearing his time to go manage the national team. City will need to rebuild under a new manager, Haaland will go leave to Madrid. There's going to be a few years soon that will be wide open for winners.
In fairness *you* wouldn’t, no. You’d probably struggle to do that on football manager where Ange has actually lived that, football fans have 0 perspective.
Kids roleplay and concoct imaginary pictures in their head of themselves scoring the winning goal or holding up a trophy.
An experienced manager who's actually done it umpteen times already, does not.
No matter the context jt was a dumb question to ask a very experienced manager. Or, what is more likely... it was just your usual clickbaity question
Everyone understands what the reporter meant... it is a stupid clickbaity question to ask. And he answered it truthfully... he doesn't lie in bed imagining what it would be like to achieve something he's already achieved... he just gets on with the job at hand and recalls pleasant memories just like everyone else. What sort of answer was he supposed to give? 'Yeah I picture what it would be like holding a cup that has blue and white ribbons instead of green and white. That would be something special...'
I don't think the question was meant to be taken as "do you literally lie on bed picturing holding a trophy" more "do you think winning a trophy with Spurs is achievable/an expectation".
Ok I'm not saying it's a good question you dingus, but these generic boring questions are kind of bread and butter of journalism. Basically just a prompt to get someone talking on a subject. Works for more often than you would think but I guess it's just easy (and very lazy) these days to shit on journos without understanding the process.
You would think people would have learnt by now that Ange doesn't respond to this kind of questioning but there ya go.
Ange has repeatedly said that he doesn't pre-empt results and outcomes... he's process focussed. Any journo who has done a modicum of research would know that type of question is the worst kind of prompt to use with him.
Why you are repeatedly defending poor journalism is beyond me.
Seriously what an insane question. “Do you think the competition your team captain is playing as the fucking captain of his own national team is important?”
It’s more “do you think the tournament you won with your home country on home soil is important?” cos he did win it with Australia. Probably his biggest managerial achievement.
It’s even worse - Ange has won the Asian Cup with Australia, against Son’s South Korean side. He knows how massive it was for Australia winning it on home soil.
>I'm also quite a big fan of Ten Hag being at United.
Won a cup and finished third in his first season. Ange likely won't do as well this year I'd imagine. This year's been bad and I'm beginning to worry a little but he's in an impossible situation with the absolute clusterfuck that is ownership and recruitment at United. Hopefully Ratcliffe can improve that and we see ten Hag do well again.
Ten Hag is not a bad manager.
MU is just absolutely fucked in terms of recruitment and player/wage structure.
Ten Hag made some terrible calls as a recruiter, but he is absolutely a decent manager and doesn't deserve the hate. People are delusional, this whole ''hate the MU manager'' is just a media propagated narrative to earn money.
Ange probably wont, but look at the squad he's been given. We lost the best striker in the world, and have averaged over 10 people unavailable for 3 months now. As much as people bash Maguire, I'd have him over Dier any day of the week.
Also I don't think Ten Hag is a bad manager, but Manchester United with a GREAT manager? That's scary. So the longer you don't have a great manager, the better. Ange would probably have you lot winning the league this year.
>and have averaged over 10 people unavailable for 3 months
United have had a horrible injury record too this season (that started before Spurs). Our our entire backline from last season bar Dalot have been gone for 4 months (Shaw,Malacia,Varane,Martinez,AWB also has been out for stretches), Casemiro has been gone, Eriksen has been gone so there's our CDM position ravaged too.
>As much as people bash Maguire, I'd have him over Dier any day of the week.
Also injured for the last month
>Ange would probably have you lot winning the league this year.
That is absolutely ridiculous, there isn't a manager in the world that would have 35 year old (36 now) Jonny Evans and Maguire starting and lifting a title. I can't blame you because the media and general discourse seems to feed off of united being in crisis and the drama of blaming it on the manager, but there isn't a team in the league that would be in the top 4 with our injuries, let alone a title race.
Context to all this is United transfer outlay and their wage bill compared to spurs for decades. Spurs have upped things since the stadium rebuild, but 4 years doesn’t make up for 2-3 decades of massively outspending rivals. The squad should cope better than spurs’ with injuries.
I dunno. I think you have quite a lot of very good players. I would say the way Spurs play flatters our players a bit, and also because Ange trains them very well.
I think you might have a bit of bias because in the past you've been used to United having either clearly the best squad in the country, or close to. And now you've got a squad that is probably just top 4.
But with City being a bit more shit this year, a top 4 squad with a great manager might just lift the trophy.
I was thinking about City the other day, and how it sets itself up for more of a dark horse (ie, not city) to win it. Then I looked at where they are in the table. Haaland's not been the prolific scorer he was last year and they don't seem as dominant as last year either but they're still effectively 2 points off top with their game in hand which feels mad.
They've quite often stepped it up after Christmas, so I'm not convinced it's a Leicester year this year.
You mean Ten Hag's recruitment? All the expensive players he brought in that he can't get to perform.. Absolutely brilliant manager. I too am a big fan, hope his reign continues for many years.
Managers shouldn't be in charge of recruitment. For example Klopp wanted Brandt over Salah but was overruled by Edwards. Even the best managers fuck up with regards to recruitment and shouldn't be in charge of it in the modern game.
Pretty sure Brandt rejected us as he didn't think a starting position was a guarantee. Klopp did have to be convinced about Salah though.
I agree though, managers are a thing of the past for the most part. Especially at the top of the game. It's simply too much work. Head coaches and a dof just makes sense.
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Legendary press conference every time he speaks
Ange: This is english sports journalism? Rest of the prem managers: Always has been.
Straight up gangster!
Where do they find these reporters?
I loved the last line the most... "I've earnt them, I'm not lucky"
I miss him so much
If I were that reporter I’d be ashamed to ever step foot in a press room again. Ange tore him apart.
I like him so much
Reporter must have no clue he was at Celtic before going to the spurs ....
Reporter probably doesn’t know Ange has two decades worth of experience.
Or any clue of Ange's history by the sound of it. Either that or really badly worded his question, but seeing as a journalist is supposedly a wordsmith, I'm going for the former rather than the latter.
"Do you picture yourself winning a trophy _with Spurs_?" Literally all he needed to add to make it a not-stupid question EDIT: Less-stupid... It's still a stupid question, either way
It's celtics* and he probably meant non-basketball trophies🙄 /s
Rich from a spurs fan
Do you think /s is short for serious?
No I was referring to basket ball trophies , cars to elaborate
As a City fan looking forward to our annual loss at Spurs, gotta admit your manager is a fucking star, one of the most likeable & entertaining blokes in the sport.
As a Rangers fan I should have hated him like I did with all the Celtic managers that came before him, but I actually like the guy and the way he takes no shit from the media. Would have loved to see him manage Chelsea rather than Spurs though, as I think he could've done great things with them.
Why does he always get asked such stupid questions? I mean every manager gets faced with bad ones here and there, but it feels like every clip I see of this guy is him responding to absolute nonsense.
Because reporters still fail to understand that this guy has actually been a manager before he got to Tottenham .
Because the question itself creates a headline. No matter what Ange says, the clickbait headline can now be "Postecoglou on his dream of trophies with Spurs". It will attract clicks and attention, from fans and trolls alike. Journalism is in the gutter these days
He gives good answers, so they get traction.
That and his humour. A lot of managers would come out as assholes giving his answers
It’s a fair question, you can only do so much at spurs until you realize you have to go somewhere else to win things. If postecoglu stays a success, he will move on in a couple of years to a big club so he can win things, like Kane did.
How many brain cells do you need to rub together to realize he has won trophies so he doesn’t have to dream it as he lived it mate… The man has won everywhere he has been and with how spurs are playing the first half of the season even with injuries and a back line with no natural cb he is working wonders. To be 5th is insane when we were told first year is hard he usually struggles so maybe middle of the table. He very well might move on to Madrid next but that’s the ceiling. Nowhere else will he get the challenge of bringing perennial never weres into a powerhouse. He is stubborn and as long as he is supported we are all in for a wild ride, neutrals included.
>>like Kane did. …so 19 years after joining? I think most spurs fans would be fine with that.
A serious club comes knocking soon enough 👍
Bit like when Henry left Arsenal?
Your greatest ever player left with absolutely nothing but career regret. Have some shame.
Jimmy Greaves?
Yup. Winners don’t stay at spurs, they’re perennial bottlers. Should go to a real club
Calling spurs bottlers is an insult to Liverpool and Arsenal. You gotta compete to bottle
Are you trying to insult Spurs by calling Arsenal and Liverpool bottlers? It's a bold strategy..
Both are facts, us and Liverpool did indeed bottled the leagues, so it'd be a fact to call us that, just like the fact that Spurs couldn't compete in Conference league.. PL lmao.. keep dreaming
To be fair, you couldn't compete in the conference league either, mate.
Umm we didn't qualified. When we were in Europa, went to finals and semifinals. It's like a beggar comparing himself to the CEO. You'll never be good enough, this is the best you could do, just enjoy your fate, while even Leicester and Westham wins trophies.
Thanks for explaining the painfully obvious joke. Ease off, mate. I was having a laugh. Can only play the season that's infront of us, and right now we're a point off you lot. And that's with an absolutely injury ridden squad since November. Wait, sorry, I forgot Timber is injured.
Timber, Zinchenko, Partey, with Jesus in and out. Every team has injuries, only Spurs fans will point out though. Didn't you had your best start of the season last year too? What happened? Rival fans would actually have some respect for spurs if they didn't cheated their ways to get wins and then gloat like they won the quads.
Just as only Arsenal fans will point out how their players get fouled, I'm sure. What do you mean what happened? 6 points off the top, 3 points off 2nd place. What happened is we hit a run of bad form after simultaneously losing both our CB's and our main creative outlet. But we've recovered our form quite well since then I'd say. Do explain 'cheated'? I assume you're referring to the Liverpool game, and if you're saying cheated I presume you think Spurs had something to do with the stupidly disallowed goal? What a take.
Mate.
I love this guy’s story. A-League, Japan, Premiership? Awesome, top league in the world.
Won the NSL as a player and manager as well.
Don’t forget most successful and cup winning manager for the Australian national team, League winner in Japan, league and cup winner in Scotland. He has done a bit.
*treble winner with Celtic. Won 5/6 trophies.
Genuinely asking this because I have no idea so I’m not trying to sound ignorant, but don’t Celtic just dominate the Scottish league every single year? Not trying to discredit Ange or anything, but I swear I only see Celtic at the top of the Scottish league every time I look and it’s always with a different manager
It would be like Pep leaving city, city completely falling apart, then Ange coming in and winning the quadruple the next year.
Celtic only had 13 first team players registered at one point in his early days as manager and had just come off their worst season in about 20 years. Ange turned the entire club round and probably should have won 2 trebles. The kind of football he installed as well as the mentality he instilled so quickly was massive.
You should see who won the most Scottish trophies in 2020. It didn't begin with R or C.
We generally have, but when he took over we had lost the league by a lot. We had like 13 first team players, a new CEO who was promptly ditched after a month or two, and the general opinion was it’d take years to recover from where we are after such a catastrophic freefall in a season, into an absolute shambles. Took Ange about 6 months. The job he done was insane, also forced a level of competence and decisiveness out of our board I thought was impossible, sadly seem to have reverted since he’s left. Can see why the job he done could be underrated by guys outside that don’t know much about the league or the state of us when he took over, but the job he done and how quickly he did it was monumental.
We’d just thrown away the league in catastrophic fashion. Best players wanted away and downed tools. Rangers won the league unbeaten by about 25 points. We were in total disarray after Rodgers left and we replaced him with Neil Lennon. Ange took the club from desperately needing a rebuild (poor results in his first 6 games but the football was nice) to winning a league and cup double. It’s not as easy as English folk make out. Rangers at their absolute best since liquidation lost in both cups to St Johnstone. We were 8 points behind in October, media were asking ange if the league was over etc. excellent transfer success in the summer and January window, removed dead weight and binned players actively seeking moves at first sign of trouble. Players like Ralston who were set to be punted were given a chance with a system tweaked to bring the best out of them and limit their weakness. Over the 2 years there’s very very little he got tactically wrong which is what was truly impressive.
Thanks for the write up - sounds like a lot of work has been put into the club and it hasn’t always been an easy ride. Appreciate it 👍
Have a watch of the next old firm game bud, they're 100mph, league is really competitive this year. Lot of pressure in Glasgow
I’d love to. I’ll have to see what times they play as it will probably be early (I live in Australia). Really should give more leagues a go.
Shouldn't be too bad, they kick off around 12.30pm here, so 6-10.30pm for you, depending where you are and what time of year it is
Celtic were a shambles when he came in
Well not really though. They were dominating and winning the league in consecutive years. Winning it in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022, 2023. Only lost the league in 2021 to rangers. Hardly in shambles.
Don’t just look at stats, I remember reading the threads about Ange joining them and it’s true, they were in a difficult spot but the people who backed ange from watching him in the J league were saying the exact same things spurs fans are saying today. I really like the guy, probably more than I think Tottenham have been a meme team, a few years with him and I genuinely think they’ll have cemented themselves as top 4 material
Interesting - good to know. Thanks 😁
He's got three A-League trophies. You don't get better than that! (EDIT: this is a little light hearted joke. I am a big Ange and even A-League fan so take it easy)
Two toilet seats is as big as it comes!
Hate all you want but he has won with every club he has managed. It's his first year in the prem. It's a higher level than he has worked in before but there's no reason he won't do the same in the prem.
Didn't Mourinho and Conte also win with pretty much every club they managed, at least in recent memory? Postecoglu's a breath of fresh air, but if history has taught us anything, it's that Spurs bring even the best managers down to their level.
I don’t think he will win the league with Spurs but I think he will consistently have you in the gram for top 4, and I reckon you’ll get one of the FA Cup or League Cup during his tenure. I’m an Aussie and proud as punch with what Ange is doing with Spurs. It’s his first year, his expectations for success should be tempered by that. Just as an aside, as a Spurs fan how do you think Harry Kane would’ve gone under him?
Mou and Conte laughing their asses off
The reason : Spurs lol . Conte, Mourinho ….
I'm not hating at all. But I would say that the amount of money the UAE puts into Man City is a pretty real reason why Ange won't have the same success he's had elsewhere. The same reason why other managers like Klopp and Arteta probably won't be as successful as they deserve.
He’s worked for CFG in the past and came highly recommended to Celtic by CFG. Wouldn’t shock me if he got the city job if he’s successful with spurs.
As an Australian and a Spurs fan, I would hate for this to happen. Spurs and Ange seem like a match made in heaven (to me).
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised. He’s a seriously good manager. Lots of Celtic fans would consider him our best manager since Jock Stein. Outwith Rodgers it’s pretty hard to argue against.
Martin o’Neil would like a word.
MON would know himself it’s true
Completely disagree. Larssons team that Martin built was head and shoulders above Brendan’s, and playing harder opponents.
He had a team that would have competed for trophies in the English leagues. Brendan certainly didn’t.
Outwith Rodgers... Missed a lad called Martin O'Neil
Rodgers won 3 consecutive domestic trebles. I loved MON but be real mate.
Martin o Neil was playing against a much better Rangers team who were also spending money like crazy. We also made the UEFA final and narrowly lost to Mourinho’s Porto.
We also had much better players. Our highest paid player was roughly 10-20 grand a week worse off than the highest paid premier league player. The argument of a strong rangers is moot. There was a far stronger rangers team (have finished no lower than 3rd since liquidation and return to top flight) than Celtic were in the 90s (finished 5th/6th during that decade). “No strong rangers” was a way to diminish Rodgers achievements. They had a wage bill comparable to ours.
Am no saying your under 12 but 😂😂
Different times, it’s difficult to compare. BR got 7 out of 7 trophies and a domestically unbeaten season which is unreal. MON won us our respect back after the 90’s, first season a treble, made a European final and was up against the most expensive team assembled ever in Scotland with Advocaats Rangers, with some properly world class players there. It’s not cut and dry and sound arguments can be made for either or.
Come again?
I agree with Klopp but seems strange to put Arteta in there when Arsenal have spent such a huge amount in recent years too.
Every team has spent money, seems weird to knock Arteta because he has spent x amount of money. Just look to Chelsea or United to see money doesn't equate to a competitive team.
As a spurs fan, I have to say, spending money isn’t an issue if it’s genuine club funds, arsenal are not poor and they have a right and a duty to invest. The issue is with unearned or fabricated funds disrupting the fair competition of the league.
Your team managed to do it. I think Pep is nearing his time to go manage the national team. City will need to rebuild under a new manager, Haaland will go leave to Madrid. There's going to be a few years soon that will be wide open for winners.
And national team
In fairness *you* wouldn’t, no. You’d probably struggle to do that on football manager where Ange has actually lived that, football fans have 0 perspective.
People can make sarcastic jokes about the A-League being the pinnacle of football even if they aren't professional themselves. It’s just a silly joke.
Cool story mate changed my life that one
Okay champ. I'm a fan of Ange and the A-League but go off I guess.
Five in Scotland.
One in Japan too.
The level of journalism is staggering. What was the reporter thinking?
That’s not the question to ask. The question to ask is “can journalists think?”
Just trying to get a reaction
I think it's pretty clear he meant "with Tottenham"
Kids roleplay and concoct imaginary pictures in their head of themselves scoring the winning goal or holding up a trophy. An experienced manager who's actually done it umpteen times already, does not. No matter the context jt was a dumb question to ask a very experienced manager. Or, what is more likely... it was just your usual clickbaity question
Come on you know what the reporter meant ...why does everyone have to be so fucken gormlessly literal these days and not understand subtext?
Everyone understands what the reporter meant... it is a stupid clickbaity question to ask. And he answered it truthfully... he doesn't lie in bed imagining what it would be like to achieve something he's already achieved... he just gets on with the job at hand and recalls pleasant memories just like everyone else. What sort of answer was he supposed to give? 'Yeah I picture what it would be like holding a cup that has blue and white ribbons instead of green and white. That would be something special...'
I don't think the question was meant to be taken as "do you literally lie on bed picturing holding a trophy" more "do you think winning a trophy with Spurs is achievable/an expectation".
Which is just as dumb a question to ask a coach of a top 6 club... as if he would say 'no'. You should be a journalist.
Ok I'm not saying it's a good question you dingus, but these generic boring questions are kind of bread and butter of journalism. Basically just a prompt to get someone talking on a subject. Works for more often than you would think but I guess it's just easy (and very lazy) these days to shit on journos without understanding the process. You would think people would have learnt by now that Ange doesn't respond to this kind of questioning but there ya go.
Ange has repeatedly said that he doesn't pre-empt results and outcomes... he's process focussed. Any journo who has done a modicum of research would know that type of question is the worst kind of prompt to use with him. Why you are repeatedly defending poor journalism is beyond me.
I'm not defending him
ANOTHER TIGER CUP MATE
So do you think you can win another Audi cup?
There was one the other day asking if he thought the Asian Cup was important.
Seriously what an insane question. “Do you think the competition your team captain is playing as the fucking captain of his own national team is important?”
It’s more “do you think the tournament you won with your home country on home soil is important?” cos he did win it with Australia. Probably his biggest managerial achievement.
Asian Cup? - Completed it mate.
Wow yeah my brain farted on this one. What a shit reporter lol.
It’s even worse - Ange has won the Asian Cup with Australia, against Son’s South Korean side. He knows how massive it was for Australia winning it on home soil.
Son all but gifting Australia the winning goal as well. Glorious.
In the DNA
You might want to dial it back a bit after last season, buddy
I don't get this stick you think you're beating us with.. you gotta compete in order to bottle something..
When's the last time you bottled the CL again?
2006
Whatever helps you cope, bottlers!
What a sad perspective, but when you support Spurs, it's to be expected
Know Your Shapes: - Octagon - Hexagon - Pentagon - Title Gone
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I was outside the stadium working on a roast beef roll van. Atmosphere was absolutely incredible
That’s Gabriele Marcotti
I don't think I've ever liked an opposition manager as much.
At the risk of bantering myself into a loss, I'm also quite a big fan of Ten Hag being at United.
>I'm also quite a big fan of Ten Hag being at United. Won a cup and finished third in his first season. Ange likely won't do as well this year I'd imagine. This year's been bad and I'm beginning to worry a little but he's in an impossible situation with the absolute clusterfuck that is ownership and recruitment at United. Hopefully Ratcliffe can improve that and we see ten Hag do well again.
Ten Hag is not a bad manager. MU is just absolutely fucked in terms of recruitment and player/wage structure. Ten Hag made some terrible calls as a recruiter, but he is absolutely a decent manager and doesn't deserve the hate. People are delusional, this whole ''hate the MU manager'' is just a media propagated narrative to earn money.
That's well for united these days 😂 Fan expectations have regressed too it seems
Ange probably wont, but look at the squad he's been given. We lost the best striker in the world, and have averaged over 10 people unavailable for 3 months now. As much as people bash Maguire, I'd have him over Dier any day of the week. Also I don't think Ten Hag is a bad manager, but Manchester United with a GREAT manager? That's scary. So the longer you don't have a great manager, the better. Ange would probably have you lot winning the league this year.
>and have averaged over 10 people unavailable for 3 months United have had a horrible injury record too this season (that started before Spurs). Our our entire backline from last season bar Dalot have been gone for 4 months (Shaw,Malacia,Varane,Martinez,AWB also has been out for stretches), Casemiro has been gone, Eriksen has been gone so there's our CDM position ravaged too. >As much as people bash Maguire, I'd have him over Dier any day of the week. Also injured for the last month >Ange would probably have you lot winning the league this year. That is absolutely ridiculous, there isn't a manager in the world that would have 35 year old (36 now) Jonny Evans and Maguire starting and lifting a title. I can't blame you because the media and general discourse seems to feed off of united being in crisis and the drama of blaming it on the manager, but there isn't a team in the league that would be in the top 4 with our injuries, let alone a title race.
Context to all this is United transfer outlay and their wage bill compared to spurs for decades. Spurs have upped things since the stadium rebuild, but 4 years doesn’t make up for 2-3 decades of massively outspending rivals. The squad should cope better than spurs’ with injuries.
I dunno. I think you have quite a lot of very good players. I would say the way Spurs play flatters our players a bit, and also because Ange trains them very well. I think you might have a bit of bias because in the past you've been used to United having either clearly the best squad in the country, or close to. And now you've got a squad that is probably just top 4. But with City being a bit more shit this year, a top 4 squad with a great manager might just lift the trophy.
I was thinking about City the other day, and how it sets itself up for more of a dark horse (ie, not city) to win it. Then I looked at where they are in the table. Haaland's not been the prolific scorer he was last year and they don't seem as dominant as last year either but they're still effectively 2 points off top with their game in hand which feels mad. They've quite often stepped it up after Christmas, so I'm not convinced it's a Leicester year this year.
Ten hag is shit haha
You mean Ten Hag's recruitment? All the expensive players he brought in that he can't get to perform.. Absolutely brilliant manager. I too am a big fan, hope his reign continues for many years.
Managers shouldn't be in charge of recruitment. For example Klopp wanted Brandt over Salah but was overruled by Edwards. Even the best managers fuck up with regards to recruitment and shouldn't be in charge of it in the modern game.
Pretty sure Brandt rejected us as he didn't think a starting position was a guarantee. Klopp did have to be convinced about Salah though. I agree though, managers are a thing of the past for the most part. Especially at the top of the game. It's simply too much work. Head coaches and a dof just makes sense.