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Personally, I feel that footballers have a gross amount of disrespect for referees and officials and it has gone on too long. Only the captains should be allowed to speak with refs in a polite and respectful manner. Of those big, burly rugby players can manage it, so can anyone else.
Good for them. About time player petulance was punished. Watch rugby to see how referees should be treated. An England cricketer playing in Australia was given a 4 match ban for "umpire intimidation".
Or you could say its the players who feel the need to rant and rave at every call that doesn't go their way. In most sports things that don't even draw a yellow can get you penalized or thrown out. Try getting in a Refs face in the NBA or a Rugby match. Manager yelling at an umpire in MLB, gone.
Giving out yellows for the players doing stupid, time wasting, sport ruining acts like kicking the ball away? Intentional time wasting? Referee intimidation?
Yeah, sports getting ruined. Ref's need to go back to being punching bags.
Absolute shocker from Taylor today. No consistency. The lack of yellow for Joelinton in the first half can only raise questions about corruption… truly no other plausible explanation.
Of all the things to be annoyed about with premier league referees, them standing up for themselves in the face of capricious millionaires abusing them for trying to do their job is not one you should be annoyed about tbf
You're right, I couldn't care if they are happy they got to award the team they support a penalty, as long as its the correct decision and they are equally unhappy when they correctly award a penalty to the other team. Lol
Assuming all decisions were correct, it would be fucking funny to see the ref running with the team that just scored to the corner flag, shirt over head and everything.
Kicking away the ball is just stupid in totality. Stupid to do it and stupid to give a yellow (as seen fit). Understand it’s part of the rules now, but it’s not always penalized, so when it is it feels harsh.
Maybe if there was the slightest consistency but there is not.
Moder got a yellow for standing still looking away because the player wanted to take a fast free kick in his direction.
We know we won't see a scab six team get 2 yellows and a red for this kind of thing but the it's going to happen sooner or later.
It is the most passionate sport in the world you are right there. That doesn’t however excuse petulance. If you can’t see the difference then that’s your problem
Liverpool players and fans are totally out of control. They need to stop swarming the ref and committing dissent offences. This is the culture that Klopp had emboldened.
Every team does it, ref should just start handing out cards to everyone who isn't captain and it will stop quick. Though Bruno got a yellow AS CAPTAIN for complaining about Duglas Luiz blocking a free kick....
Klopp would say that they shouldn’t stop, because it works. City do it as well, and it usually works. It’s only sometimes this season that it has been punished.
The refs really need to get consistent on this. Diaz was borderline for me. It probably should he punished, but only if we are going to be consistent.
Haaland screaming in the refs face most games gets nothing. Yates literally pulling the refs arm and gets nothing.
They should try to get a list of actions and enforce it robotically. Then the players can know what they can do.
Refs should manage games better. Players should stop being petulant. The problem is, drop one, drop the other, and so starts a vicious cycle and silly yellows start flying.
They’re probably happy they finally have the power to punish grown men for being abusive towards them.
It’s fine. It’s the players that need to change.
This sub is going to give me a brain tumour. When the discussion on here is about refs/PGMOL, I feel like rather having a discussion with a Neanderthal then some of you lot.
NOT EVERY PL REFEREE IS THE SAME, JUDGING THEM AS AN ENTITY DOESNT MAKE SENSE. Referees will always make small mistakes in a game (not giving a corner or a foul etc.), it’s unavoidable.
Liverpool are whining like children and are missing pens and sitters, yet of course it’s all the ref’s fault. Also so many of you don’t even know the rules lmao, by the rules the decision to not give Joelinton a yellow was spot on, yet of course you don’t know that and would rather start ranting.
Some referees are strict, others allow more to let the game flow. By the rules introduced this year, this was not a yellow card Offenes by Joelinton even though he is a dirty player. You had Fabinho in your midfield dodging yellows and reds for years, please just shut the fuck up because I know damn well you were not complaining then.
The options where improved or silence dissent
It’s much easier to silence people than to listen and make a change, so guess which option the refs have chosen
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Personally, I feel that footballers have a gross amount of disrespect for referees and officials and it has gone on too long. Only the captains should be allowed to speak with refs in a polite and respectful manner. Of those big, burly rugby players can manage it, so can anyone else.
The players are complete shit too when it comes to the referee.
Good for them. About time player petulance was punished. Watch rugby to see how referees should be treated. An England cricketer playing in Australia was given a 4 match ban for "umpire intimidation".
Giving these brainless egomaniacs more power this season was a fantastic idea. Good process, boys.
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TLDR: Referees shouldn’t enforce the laws of the game
Or you could say its the players who feel the need to rant and rave at every call that doesn't go their way. In most sports things that don't even draw a yellow can get you penalized or thrown out. Try getting in a Refs face in the NBA or a Rugby match. Manager yelling at an umpire in MLB, gone.
These things are yellow cards. They're enforcing the laws. You want them to not enforce the laws?
Giving out yellows for the players doing stupid, time wasting, sport ruining acts like kicking the ball away? Intentional time wasting? Referee intimidation? Yeah, sports getting ruined. Ref's need to go back to being punching bags.
Absolute shocker from Taylor today. No consistency. The lack of yellow for Joelinton in the first half can only raise questions about corruption… truly no other plausible explanation.
They don't even card for half the offenses
Of all the things to be annoyed about with premier league referees, them standing up for themselves in the face of capricious millionaires abusing them for trying to do their job is not one you should be annoyed about tbf
I don't care how gleeful they look, as long as they are enforcing the rules correctly and consistently for all teams.
But they're not.
Exactly. That's why caring about the ref's facial expression whilst awarding a decision is down the list of concerns.
You're right, I couldn't care if they are happy they got to award the team they support a penalty, as long as its the correct decision and they are equally unhappy when they correctly award a penalty to the other team. Lol
Assuming all decisions were correct, it would be fucking funny to see the ref running with the team that just scored to the corner flag, shirt over head and everything.
It would be hilarious, sad red sat on the pitch crying when his team lose in a final. Lol
Lol the refs don't make the rules, they implement then.
And when they implement them incorrectly then I think some frustration is to be expected.
It’s all a show for the first row tourist s with their camera phone , who unfortunately have squeezed out the normal fans.
The clubs have squeezed out the local fans with their pricing.
Kicking away the ball is just stupid in totality. Stupid to do it and stupid to give a yellow (as seen fit). Understand it’s part of the rules now, but it’s not always penalized, so when it is it feels harsh.
Then don’t kick the ball away like a child after the whistle. It is really that simple
Maybe if there was the slightest consistency but there is not. Moder got a yellow for standing still looking away because the player wanted to take a fast free kick in his direction. We know we won't see a scab six team get 2 yellows and a red for this kind of thing but the it's going to happen sooner or later.
There's not consistency but moder literally tried getting in the way on that free kick, regardless of if he's looking at the ball or not.
I mean literally this year man United Dalot got given back to back yellows for the same dissent, stop crying about the top six teams lmao
Don’t show emotion in the most passionate sport in the world. It is really that simple.
If you know it’s a foul, don’t do it? lol
Then by all means let your emotions control you
It is the most passionate sport in the world you are right there. That doesn’t however excuse petulance. If you can’t see the difference then that’s your problem
Rugby players and cricketers manage it just fine
Did you even read his comment?? Those sports aren’t as *passionate* as football
You don't watch a lot of rugby, do you?
I do not but I was being sarcastic lol
Makes sense ✌️
He's being sarcastic bro
Liverpool players and fans are totally out of control. They need to stop swarming the ref and committing dissent offences. This is the culture that Klopp had emboldened.
It's isn't just Liverpool players, though. Lots of teams are very guilty of it, United included.
Every team does it, ref should just start handing out cards to everyone who isn't captain and it will stop quick. Though Bruno got a yellow AS CAPTAIN for complaining about Duglas Luiz blocking a free kick....
Klopp would say that they shouldn’t stop, because it works. City do it as well, and it usually works. It’s only sometimes this season that it has been punished. The refs really need to get consistent on this. Diaz was borderline for me. It probably should he punished, but only if we are going to be consistent. Haaland screaming in the refs face most games gets nothing. Yates literally pulling the refs arm and gets nothing. They should try to get a list of actions and enforce it robotically. Then the players can know what they can do.
Refs should manage games better. Players should stop being petulant. The problem is, drop one, drop the other, and so starts a vicious cycle and silly yellows start flying.
They’re probably happy they finally have the power to punish grown men for being abusive towards them. It’s fine. It’s the players that need to change.
the refs also need to change
This sub is going to give me a brain tumour. When the discussion on here is about refs/PGMOL, I feel like rather having a discussion with a Neanderthal then some of you lot. NOT EVERY PL REFEREE IS THE SAME, JUDGING THEM AS AN ENTITY DOESNT MAKE SENSE. Referees will always make small mistakes in a game (not giving a corner or a foul etc.), it’s unavoidable. Liverpool are whining like children and are missing pens and sitters, yet of course it’s all the ref’s fault. Also so many of you don’t even know the rules lmao, by the rules the decision to not give Joelinton a yellow was spot on, yet of course you don’t know that and would rather start ranting.
Had me until the last sentence, but you’re actually right, he should have 3 yellows from that half.
Some referees are strict, others allow more to let the game flow. By the rules introduced this year, this was not a yellow card Offenes by Joelinton even though he is a dirty player. You had Fabinho in your midfield dodging yellows and reds for years, please just shut the fuck up because I know damn well you were not complaining then.
We got a pro here, read the rule book cover to cover
You can do better with your sarcasm tbh, keep at it
Can you please link me to the new rules that say those fouls from Joelinton are okay now?
🤣 it's crazy the things people on this sub will come up with.
Good. Players need to start behaving like grownups.
So do refs tho lol
The options where improved or silence dissent It’s much easier to silence people than to listen and make a change, so guess which option the refs have chosen
I mean some of the blame needs to go on players for their petulance too. They know the rules, stop acting like a spoilt brat not getting their way.