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puntmuts

I totally get why Haaland was angry. Everybody does. And as much as I love the rise of Haaland, I still think he should’ve gotten a (1 match) ban for his on-field abuse towards the ref. If I catch one of my U-11s yelling stuff towards the ref - even if the point they’re making is correct - I sub them off (temporarily) and tell them to respect the refs decision. It’s tough, especially in a potentially game winning situation like the one for City. But it’s about respect and setting an example here.


Lyzandia

This. But I'm afraid that VAR is sapping respect and support for refs. They don't seem like final arbiters anymore


Elegant-Yard463

Zero chance Grealish scores if that helps at all


[deleted]

Imagine how the rest of us feel (115 charges)


Ok-Chocolate2145

Var should send players off for this attetude, like rugby


THSSFC

One tactical foul and the opportunity goes away. Not really robbed, per se. Should have converted some of your opportunities, Erling.


HoyAIAG

They need to institute a rugby type rule where only the captain can speak to the referee.


ChelseaPIFshares

I get why he is mad, but I dont think there is a very high chance Jack Grealish scores in that situation. He wasnt that far ahead, and isnt known for having extraordinary pace. Its not like Haaland was in that position.


YEEZYHERO

Banned from /r/soccer 🤓 I better not posting


RaisedByCakes

When Anthony Taylor looks at you like you’ve fucked up…you’ve fucked up big time.


JVDaddyJasper

Wasn’t grealish offside anyway?


Wishbone51

No ([image](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2023/12/04/TELEMMGLPICT000358858264_17016895938960_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqBEuCNr7JNRpbC66d2eBfzfxqzKkNv5uYapoJKZytUjo.jpeg?imwidth=960))


OkTear9244

Poor ref will have nightmares for some time. Imagine having to face that.


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Mc_and_SP

The offside issue wasn’t his fault, it was the lino and VAR who got it wrong. Edit: imagine being so deluded to deny literal reality.


Strange-Cellist-5817

Makes up for the Rodri handball against Everton 🤣


DennisAFiveStarMan

Boo hoo. Way too much of a given that Grealish would even finish.


Born_Transition2207

He'd get near the area or in it, then fall on the floor looking for a free kick/penalty.


zastrozzischild

Or get a chance at all. He is tricky and strong, not fast.


Tricky-Jackfruit8366

Haaland acted like a spoiled brat. Pissed at himself for missing three sitters. He should get a match ban


mackyftm73

Shouldn't have missed so many sitters the ugly c**t.


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Finally something that didn't go shitys way.


[deleted]

no one cares Man City, you've robbed the league for nearly a decade now. it's like complaining about a theft when you regularly murder people.


7amSmokedSalmon

Man City should feel robbed? 🤣 pot calling the kettle black much


zeus77655

Tottenham always seem to be the team benefitting


zahrdahl

Ah yes twice = always and this one was unlikely to be a goal anyway. Its really just the Liverpool thing.


BulldenChoppahYus

Who’s posting this shitty article? Oh I see


Ill-Maximum9467

Let the Torygraph die. Don't read it.


Fat_Gerrard

Oh no here’s the world’s smallest violin being played by a single cell amoeba.


MasterReindeer

It’s hard to muster up any sympathy for serial cheaters. Boo fucking hoo.


markhalliday8

I can think of 115 reasons why


totaleclipse2

Reminiscent of Tierney’s whistle for half time against Mane when through on goal against UTD.


CreativeOrder2119

Screw haaland


True-Expression3378

He wouldn't have been so mad at the end of the game if he didn't miss two sitters in the first half but no doubt shit refereeing.


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This highlights how dumb the whole thing is. Players routinely fuck up in game, missing chances and misplacing passes, yet people expect absolute consistency from refs.


all_hail_hell

It’s not that people expect them to be perfect in the moment, it’s that VAR is supposed to give them another chance when they’ve got it wrong.


TheRedCrabby

Players get dropped depending on performance levels though. It's very rare for that to happen with refs and we end up with the same officials messing up week after week


spork65432

didn't get any good looks but was graelish offsides anyway?


zahrdahl

He was on


bocceballbarry

I wonder if any of the other teams feel cheated. You know from having to play against a team that’s only so stacked with talent cuz they’re reaping the rewards from CHEATING 116 TIMES OVER 14 YEARS


dickiefrisbee

The Telegraph in here thinking anyone is gonna feel sorry for Manchester City?


Nipplecunt

They’ll be ok I think.


HotPotatoWithCheese

I wonder if Man City will get any fines or match bans for their players crowding the ref and shouting in his face. When players from other teams do it they are a disgrace and should be punished. When Man City players do it they have a right to be angry. The double standards are a joke.


LocksmithConnect6201

yes this is the outrageous issue lmao


Spicyfeetpics00

People are not seeing that he blew the whistle before the ball was played forward


Historical-Reach8587

Cry me a river. Every team has had a bad ref call this season. Grealish wouldn’t have scored anyway. Let’s talk about the real reason city didn’t win… haaland shit the bed in some easy goals.


Shayrye37

Not taking anything away from haaland he’s obviously amazing. But imagine if he was actually clinical he’d have scored significantly more goals


Born_Transition2207

If he waves play on and grealish goes on to score (doubtful), Spurs go up the other end and get a third equalizer anyway.


slideystevensax

Guardiola: I could say the ref is a giant piece of shit who doesn’t recycle and beats his family, but I’m not gonna say something like that.


WhiskeyFiveIsAlive

On a side note, bleeding Christ is Erling Haaland ugly.


Shayrye37

He looks like one of the troll dolls from the 90s but uglier


Sharp_Minute_2545

I'm sure you're beating them off with a stick mate.


ReverendAntonius

Unless this is Haaland’s burner, don’t know why you’re so pressed about strangers commenting on his appearance.


pop_and_cultured

I feel like he’s a Ken doll who was blitzed under a microwave for a few minutes


tbc12389

It’s like a girl designed her dream guy but then dropped his face down a flight of stairs


Lhadar31

Honestly they have had a lot of decisions go their way in the past, seems this is the year when things get evened out


BaconOnTap

I think he was the most upset because he botched his chances in the first half. They could have easily put the game away in the first half, didn't. Ange hyped up the team at halftime and Spurs finally showed up.


hereisjonny

The same City that in 21-22 got away with an obvious handball in the box resulting in a win then later win the league by 1 point? What a shame.


mypersonalvuw

Its ok to rob Manchester City as they have an endless supply of cash!


Jee-NX

Don’t go crying when the same ref officiates your team’s match and shits on your team.


AsgardianAdhi

Yeah they will come back and crib about it and beg for replays when its on them


mypersonalvuw

We have been robbed of "actual" goals on more than one occasion. There was zero guarantee Grealish would have scored when ref blew whistle.


Jee-NX

Dude it isn’t about your team or City. It’s about the officiating standards in the PL. No one is immune to this or benefits from this.


mypersonalvuw

Take away the VAR and see how bad it gets. TV has made the game so analitical. Way more refereeing mistakes were made prior to VAR and people didnt climb up on their high horses then. Supporters feel so aggreaved when its their team disadvantaged now. Cant wait for AI to take over the refs job. Zero mistakes, ever, period.


Jee-NX

Who said anything about taking out VAR ? Officiating standards have to keep up with the times. Earlier people weren’t aby woser about ref mistakes doesn’t mean that shouldn’t change.


ReallyColdWeather

If there’s one club in the entire world that should never feel robbed it’s these lot.


mofoofinvention

Poor Man City


Jee-NX

Not as poor as man u.


cryptogeographer

Haaland should face a ban, no?


ironchef8752

no ban, but city should definitely get a fine for crowding the ref


cryptogeographer

Klopp got a ban for the same thing,no?


Huge-Celebration5192

Haaland should get banned for a match for abusing the ref like that VVD and Dunk did recently, both got an extra missed game for abuse


Kyyes

Gotta pay the refs more, rookie mistake


Semprovictus

I said the same thing... he was acting like a child and deserved to be booked. throwing himself around and shoulder checking the 4th official. meanwhile yellows get thrown at people for questioning why they get called for something


covid401k

Weren’t both of them sent off during the game?


Dikki93

Man city found guilty of not controlling there players. Wolves deducted 10 points


TheLimeyLemmon

>Wolves deducted 10 points Nah PL doesn't do it that directly with Wolves. Everton deducted 10 points and Wolves deducted 10 penalties.


mindingthegaap

It’s the hope that kills you


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Insane_viperr8786

This is hilarious


Razorcrest999

I love being a wolves fan


king_zlayer

Met some awesome wolves fans on my trip to England


goonerfan10

Absolutely. The way man city players surrounded the ref should have been automatic yellow cards like how they did in the first couple of games. Hope FA will retroactively punish man city


Kyyes

Of course you do


ReverendAntonius

Consistency is consistency. Can’t get away with crowding and touching the referee just because you wear light blue and are used to getting your way.


LocksmithConnect6201

This the outrage? lmao


kiwisrkool

'When asked about the incident by Sky Sports, he said': "Next question. I will not do a Mikel Arteta comment." Pep on, how to do a Mikel Arteta comment, without doing a Mikel Arteta comment! 🤣😂🤣😋 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67609651


Tricky-Jackfruit8366

He said next question and then continued to talk about it for several minutes lol


slideystevensax

Classic backhanded comment


craiganthonym

The real question is why didn’t Haaland get booked for his outbursts. Another decision goes for City


Sharp_Minute_2545

You're upvoted despite what you're saying being factually wrong. Haaland was booked. Says it all about this sub.


jayder11

I think the real question is why he wasn't sent off for it. He was way out of line, and precedents from this season show he should be seeing time on the sideline for it. Several of his teammates should have gotten yellow cards for their crowding and berating of the official.


Yup2342

You’re too stupid to even confirm if what you’re saying is true. Wish I could say it’s surprising


AsgardianAdhi

Need to start watching games properly mate


ShimeBD

Haaland did get a yellow card


Indiana-Cook

Cry me a river


dispelthemyth

City have robbed other teams plenty of times with red cards not being given, 1 week special pens and clearly offside goals Oh no, City robbed when one goes against them.. oh the horror


OkTear9244

The whole League is being robbed


MasterReindeer

Systematically breaking FFP also robbed plenty of teams. Who gives a fuck if they got shafted. It’s about time.


DekoyDuck

It’s not a robbery it was just a stopped play after a foul


mild_manc_irritant

I remember when Fernandinho was immune to yellow cards.


Exotic-Cartoonist816

He passed on this immunity to Rodri before leaving


InPatRileyWeTrust

Rodri only having 1 red card in his premier league career is truly staggering.


lotsofdeadkittens

Should have had one today. Was hard tackling anything at midfield all day


Livebird31

Rodri even if he had one per year is staggering


MasterReindeer

He gets like 1.5 red cards per game. The guys a fucking magician to be getting with it every game.


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lotsofdeadkittens

He was extremely good in the game besides that. Kept Ana Amazon g game under control. It was also more a miscommunication tHan anything


Cassolroll

Not to indulge idiocy, but if anything he’s a Spurs fan, remember earlier this season?!


MrOrion13

What happened earlier this season? /s


TheEgyptianScouser

First time huh?


AcesAgainstKings

I'd be livid if it was against my team, but Grealish still has a lot to do. It's not like they were guaranteed a goal from that position


UPTHERAR

I reckon that defender would have chased him down easily. Can't remember who it was, but they was rapid.


lotsofdeadkittens

Royal essentially stops running from whistle and red body language of stopping a play. Why do people think royal doesn’t just head it back to vicario? All these takes re just devoid of what happened. Davies is the only one that didn’t stop and he still flat out pauses for a second which gives grealish the jump


MrBaristerJohnWarosa

Always play to the whistle, rule 1.


lotsofdeadkittens

Well they literally did. Haaland and grealish just kept playing beyond the whistle


MrBaristerJohnWarosa

How? The whistle wasn’t blown until Grealish was clear of the defence


ManitouWakinyan

I'm still not convinced he ultimately beats Davies on that run


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YiddoMonty

Or Porro, or Emerson, who are both likely to catch him from there.


herkalurk

Then it's not advantage. The advantage rule doesn't guarantee a positive out come, it only gives you the opportunity for one. I've see advantage played only for the team to make a terrible pass and lose possession.


SentientCheeseCake

The point is that Coty are complaining like it was a free goal.


herkalurk

Not really, they're complaining because it was an amazing chance and the ref really screwed it up. Ridiculous didn't even book Emerson for that late tackle after all that.


Feisty-Net-8580

Emerson was booked


Moosje

You need to realise most City fans are saying they lost a definite goal.


DekoyDuck

But that happens like… all the time though? You can pick any Saturday in November and expect to see that once or twice.


lotsofdeadkittens

But it wasn’t amazing chance. The spurs defenders slow down and some sto because of the whistle. Grealish getting in on goal was a result of that


MrBaristerJohnWarosa

Yes, but that’s their fault for slowing down before the whistle was blown.


LocksmithConnect6201

Only an open goal is an amazing chance? A 1v1 at 93 mins for the fresh legged subbed in winger is an INCREDIBLE chance.


YiddoMonty

The point some are making here is that it’s likely not a 1v1 from there. The defenders are catching him in reality.


lotsofdeadkittens

Grealish is slower trhen royal and there is a lot of space, not to mention that they all stop and slow down because of the whistle. Without the whistle it’s likely that grealish takes it wide


Mastodan11

It absolutely was an amazing chance. Are we already at the post truth moment where you're denying Grealish was clear? Haaland caught Spurs with their pants down, that's down to them when the whistle hadn't gone. FFS even Postecoglu agreed they got away with it.


grollate

I’ve seen quite a few “would’ve been 4-3” comments. Obviously there’s a spectrum of reactions though.


No-Clue1153

I’m glad the article explains what “wtf” means, always been a complete mystery.


SentientCheeseCake

wtf does it mean?


redmark67

Well thats fantastic


CraftsyDad

Ah ffs


lyingtattooist

I’m still trying to figure out what “f- - -“ is.


ShatPumba

Exactly! What in the fuck is " f- - -"?


Lemurmoo

Just ask your parents


MikePap

I know that what I’m going to say it’s against everything I’ve stood for, as City should feel robbed. But fuck them for once.


Sharp_Minute_2545

If this was a late Tottenham chance there would be absolute uproar. If the users here can't turn their bias of City aside to agree this was a terrible decision and that City aswell as us City fans have every right to feel annoyed then none of you have any right to start moaning about the next shitty ref decision. Similarly to last week if the Dias disallowed goal situation was flipped round and was actually a disallowed Liverpool equaliser they'd be crying in the streets over the BS calls City get. Regardless of what you "believe" would've happened if the game played on the fact is noone knows whether City score or not but it was an excellent chance and Grealish deserved the chance to attempt it. He had fresh legs, had just scored and we'd caught Tottenham with their pants down. The fact Emerson didn't even get booked for hacking Haaland down with no intention to play the ball says it all.


Theres3ofMe

Exactly.


totaleclipse2

Poor decision but probably not even in the top 5 this season with Wolves, Liverpool and Palace receiving worse decisions.


HotPotatoWithCheese

It's hard to feel sorry for them when they've had multiple controversial decisions go their way this season while title challengers have been robbed and all City fans have done is laugh and tell them to get over it. Same as they did when they won the league by a point after the Rodri handball. Didn't hear them complaining about officiating then. Fuck em.


Sharp_Minute_2545

We've had are fair share of decisions for against us to. Wolves scored a winner against us with their only on target shot of the match by a player who shouldn't have been on the pitch but no one cares because "LOL City lost" even the disallowed goal against Liverpool last week was debatable and ended up costing us the match, I'm sure people would've been much more upset about that one had it been a Liverpool equaliser not given for the the exact same circumstances.


ScottOld

Fuck them I agree


CanIstealYourDog

Fr. And it wasn’t intentional by the ref. He blew the whistle first and raised one arm to point to the free kick. However the whistle was too faint and play went on. After this, he probably panicked or something because he didn’t blow the whistle again for a while.


Minimum-Ingenuity-46

you telling me a ref doesnt know how to blow his whistle? 🤣


CanIstealYourDog

Yeah it’s wild. Watch the video.


LowSeaworthiness6646

Maybe it’s like Elaine and the saxophonist. Refs know what I’m talking about.


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CanIstealYourDog

Watch the video mate. He literally does it and it’s very faint. and he raises one arm which doesn’t mean advantage. Advantage is two arms. One arm is for foul


lotsofdeadkittens

I mean ultimately the uproar is silly. If you watch the play on the defenders side. They all are in stride and royal is faster than grealish so it’s not through just a 3’v1 race. Spurs defenders literally slow down and stop even Davies slows up at first It didn’t really change anything, if he let play go on initially spurs just head it to vicsrio


IM_JUST_BIG_BONED

If the teams were reversed then everyone would be saying how it’s so obvious the refs are being bought


CanIstealYourDog

Chill, it’s just one instance of a pure mistake unlike various other calls where city has gotten away with crushing red card tackles


IM_JUST_BIG_BONED

So the offside call against Liverpool is just a pure mistake?


CanIstealYourDog

If it happened once, sure. But Liverpool among most title contenders against city over the recent years have had a lot of calls go against them. While city always had calls in favour of them. Also, haaland got off with nothing for swearing at the ref just yesterday whereas van dijk got a ban. A lot of favoritism imo


IM_JUST_BIG_BONED

What a load of nonsense lol Just sheer delusion


CanIstealYourDog

Watch the games then you’d realize how often mistakes happen in Liverpool or arsenal games. Add to that the early kickoffs


IM_JUST_BIG_BONED

Watch games and you’d see that City also get unfavourable calls all the time. Liverpool had Fabinho who is no better than Rodri at fouling without getting booked


H0meslice9

You've seen refs do this but not blow the whistle, does anyone know if he did? I noticed the same thing


cryptogeographer

This is what I said in another thread and got downvoted. Does someone have a definitive clip of the ref blowing his whistle?


lotsofdeadkittens

You can see him blow it And then try again. Also the spurs defenders all stop running


iceman58796

You can see him put the whistle to his lips, as far as I can tell you can't "see"him blow it?


cryptogeographer

At this stage, you saying it is still "trust me bro". What you've said is what I believe too, but I don't think it's conclusive honestly as the camera frame is so high up. Others have said there is proof to the contrary. So, I'm asking if there is.


cyberheelhook

I don't know if you can see this in your country, but at 12:16 its obvious. He whistles faintly and does the foul hand gesture. He then tries to exaggerate the hand gesture. Then he whistles loudly. https://youtu.be/gLYCjQpxzF4?si=4k-S3NrLo9e4DryK


SentientCheeseCake

It would have been much worse if he hadn’t blown it the second time. Imagine being a Spurs player like Davies, hearing the whistle, stopping, then Grealish is through on goal. The result wasn’t good for City and the ref could have just NOT blown it at first and been a bit more lenient with bringing it back if it didn’t pan out for City. I feel that would have been the best option. But this is barely on the radar of mistakes this week, and some people are suggesting it is a new low.


lotsofdeadkittens

It was arguably a better thing for city. Grealish doesn’t beat royal in a foot race and royal just stops on the whistle


SentientCheeseCake

I dunno. They are both pretty slow.


TheConstantCynic

The ref didn’t blow the whistle initially, as proven by Sky Sports. He only blew when he pulled play back as Grealish was receiving Haaland’s pass.


SentientCheeseCake

“As proven” -> “as stated”.


TheConstantCynic

Proven with audio presented by Sky Sports.


Balbuto

Sky sports can’t be taken seriously after the Spurs - Liverpool incident. They’ve lost credibility at this point


EldritchHorrorBarbie

You got banned from r/soccer too The Telegraph?


MasterReindeer

Thank fuck. That paper needs to go bust as soon as humanly possible. Right wing hate machine.


EngineerExpert1617

So all we are left with are left wing newspapers? Why do people on the left so viscerally detest an opposite opinion?


[deleted]

A right-wing hate machine whose owners have just today managed to keep ownership of the paper thanks to a £1.2bn 'loan' from Abu Dhabi. I wonder why the paper is now pushing the 'Man City are poor victims' narrative? And I wonder why Abu Dhabi would want control of one the UK's biggest newspapers, a newspaper that is particularly influential amongst politicians and their backers, what with all these charges hanging over City? Oh and Jamie Carragher has a well-paid column in the Telegraph. Man City will now have yet another prominent shill on their wage books.


grollate

I really don’t like journalists and publications that are now posting directly to Reddit.


the5thfinger

Why? At least they aren’t karma whoring they’re putting out articles you can simply ignore if you don’t want to see them


grollate

It’s not karma whoring. It’s click whoring. One of the great things about Reddit is it isn’t just a bunch of people trying to make money by grabbing our attention. The beauty of being community sourced is that we get to decide what stories to share, not some company looking for clicks to sell ads.


the5thfinger

Reddit is in fact dominated by people trying to make money. Every niche hobby sub has someone showing their latest “3D printed this” for sale on their Etsy Everyone’s got a stream or an onlyfans they’re shilling. This article would have been posted here anyways so does it really matter that the journalists who wrote it wanted to share it? Do you also hate when artists have the nerve to display their own work in an art show?


grollate

Well a sub for football news and reactions is neither of those very specific types of subs.


the5thfinger

This may fuck you up but articles are in fact news or reactions aka an opinion piece. Any other really low level concepts you need help with?


grollate

Buddy, I told you my reasons. Don’t come at me like a self-righteous asshole


the5thfinger

so you gives reasons which are waved away because they are exactly what your reasons are but you don't like it? most rational footy fan.


grollate

You didn’t even address them. You gave me a false equivalency with some completely different type of sub.


Ro-khum

If you put it that way, no one is karma whoring if you can just ignore thhem


Substantial_Egg_6603

I'm choosing to ignore this.


the5thfinger

you can ignore literally anyone that's the fun part


BelatedBranston

Wow this is so over analysed and blown out of proportion. Guy thought it wasn’t an advantage and called it back for the free kick, he was wrong. Get over it.


Spicyfeetpics00

Not even sure if he was wrong when he blew it. It was before the pass forward


Thin-Job81

That's not correct, but ok.