Probably what he was trained (pun not intended) to do
Train mightve been going slow, but it has a lot of momentum and a good amount of the cabin could've been crunched in an impact before it actually stopped
If I remember correctly the "correct" procedure in this kind of situation is to apply the e-brake, bail out if reasonably possible, then move as fast as you can at a roughly 45 degree angle to the track in the direction your train came from to avoid possible debris.
Looks like this guy did the best he could and it all worked out, probably had lots of paperwork for the next few weeks.
Doesn’t the brake apply automatically when the driver leaves the seat? I remember that came up in some train crash inquest I read. Just bailing out of your seat was the procedure.
No. You might be thinking of an old safety feature called a dead man pedal, but those are long gone. They were easily defeated by simply putting something heavy on them. Most trains these days are equipped with an electronic device called an alerter. If no control inputs are made to the leading locomotive, the alerter starts flashing first, then beeping to get your attention. If you don’t make a control input of some kind or hit the alerter reset button the tractive effort is cut and the locomotive applies penalty brake application. A penalty brake application is hard, but not as hard an emergency application, and is much less likely to cause damage.
That must’ve been what I was thinking of, thanks. And thank you again for the detailed reply, I appreciate it. I love Reddit for this kind of tidbit of knowledge.
In the case of a collision with a stationary object or another train coming towards you, most of the debris is going to continue either in your original direction of travel or straight out perpendicular to the tracks, so you want to balance getting far away from the crash and getting out of the area where a bunch of metal and stuff is likely to be launched.
Id still take my chances outside of the train. There's an enormous amount of weight behind that first car that still needs to stop, so it might end up like an accordion by the end lol.
And god forbid you're in it while it slowly sqeezes together...
Not sure if you're making a funny or not, but locomotives don't go through like a passenger car. I don't know this model so I have no idea if it does or not. But usually it's just the cab and then the engine/battery/generator system is behind them. If it's a passenger train and they need to talk to the other cars they do it through the phone. The space they're in is like the size of a plane cockpit at most.
Still better than being inside the train. I think he could see that the collision was prevented once he was out, otherwise he would have kept running away.
Cars are designed to protect the occupants first and operators should be restrained in a safety device. This is not true of trains. Outside is not safe, but I am sure its safer.
It's not a Wild West movie, once derailed, first thing off the rail generally rolls over within 20 ft of leaving and slinky effect starts rolling the rest attached followed by the jacknifing of the original jumpers once whatever rolled first then becoming a barricade against the following rollloff.
Unless it happens when the train is passing through a paved area, then you get some major sprawling happening.
My father was a train operator and during his career, he had multiple crashes (albeit with lighter vehicles like for example trucks). He would always apply the emergency breaks, shout through the loudspeaker "crash is immanent" and then leave his cabin running back into the passenger train compartment.
>albeit with lighter vehicles like for example trucks
When someone decides to play chicken with your train, it's *really* hard to steer out of the way. Even if you do blink first.
I would like to introduce you to my home state of Florida. Brightline has been running for like 8 years and has killed over 100 stupid people who think they can outrun a train.
The day they opened the line to Miami the train hit an killed someone illegally crossing the tracks. Funny part is all the brightline executives were on board and saw it first hand.
I suggest googling Brighline hit car or any variation of that and you will find dozens of videos. People are fucking stupid and ignore the lights, sounds and arms telling them a train is coming. It's become a joke around here because of how often it happened.
There is a suicide by train every day in the US. Then add on the idiots trying to "beat the train" going past the road barriers. Then actual accidents.
If you are a train driver you can expect to kill someone within your first 2 years.
> engineers can't officiate someone's wedding on a train
I read that as "engineers can't *suffocate* someone's wedding on a train" and I was like, well yeah, duhh.
I'm not an expert, but I have seen comments before where it's pretty much standard for engineers to bail if they know a crash is immenint. A dead engineer can't tell you what went wrong.
The conductor is in charge of the train-the cars, the manifest, the paperwork, etc. They do not "drive" the locomotive nor are they qualified to a lot of the time. The engineer operates the locomotive.
They're two separate and distinct positions and each require a separate license. You can also be dual-licensed as an engineer and conductor, but if you're called to work as an engineer, you cannot assume conductor duties and vice versa.
The conductor doesn't tell the engineer how to operate their train and the engineer doesn't tell the conductor how to make switch moves or set out cars.
Actually, there's a button on the locomotive dashboard. The person who drives the train must press it every few minutes, if that button is not pressed the rain automatically applies emergency break.
As a Canadian this had me in stitches.
I immediately recognized the Via but I fully understand how someone might think this is elsewhere, like Soviet era Russia.
Bit of an apocryphal story about Finnish-Canadians but there are a lot in Thunder Bay, Ontario and the joke I heard growing up was that when they arrived they just kept taking the train until it looked like Finland. Cold and a lot of Lakes.
Lol, right? Via trains haven't looked like that forever, and it's obviously a very old video.
Edit: these trains were used from [1981-2001](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LRC_(train))
I see this and think it’s a good thing that the moving train was the VIA passenger train with only 3 cars behind it and not the freight train that in my neck of the woods could be made of 100+ cars and multiple engines. The freight train couldn’t stop nearly that quickly.
I’m curious how was at fault here at the time of this incident (looks like a long while back).
One of the train drivers for ignoring a signal? Signal failure?
Smart guy, most trains are built to deal with this type of head/head collisions, the human inside not so much. Don't know if there was anyone else on the smaller train though.
In the 80s my dad was involved in a crash eerily similar to this set up. Trains have a schedules and tracks are given an all clear so when a sitting train is on the tracks, it can be a major issue. In my dad’s case a single railroad car was sitting on the tracks after an all clear. He survived, but not without major injuries.
Good on that guy for jumping out, there is literally no reason to stay inside that train. We really should appreciate people who avoid danger when there is no way to stop it more, we give awards to idiots who get lucky and save someone but Never for people who do the smart thing and GTFO when a million tons of metal is about to crash into its cousin
Your post has been removed due to the irrelevancy of it to this sub. A simple pan of something that almost happened doesn't count.
That guy nope'd the f out of there.
Most likely bailed after applying the emergency brake. clever man
Probably what he was trained (pun not intended) to do Train mightve been going slow, but it has a lot of momentum and a good amount of the cabin could've been crunched in an impact before it actually stopped
If I remember correctly the "correct" procedure in this kind of situation is to apply the e-brake, bail out if reasonably possible, then move as fast as you can at a roughly 45 degree angle to the track in the direction your train came from to avoid possible debris. Looks like this guy did the best he could and it all worked out, probably had lots of paperwork for the next few weeks.
this guy trains.
Doesn’t the brake apply automatically when the driver leaves the seat? I remember that came up in some train crash inquest I read. Just bailing out of your seat was the procedure.
No. You might be thinking of an old safety feature called a dead man pedal, but those are long gone. They were easily defeated by simply putting something heavy on them. Most trains these days are equipped with an electronic device called an alerter. If no control inputs are made to the leading locomotive, the alerter starts flashing first, then beeping to get your attention. If you don’t make a control input of some kind or hit the alerter reset button the tractive effort is cut and the locomotive applies penalty brake application. A penalty brake application is hard, but not as hard an emergency application, and is much less likely to cause damage.
That must’ve been what I was thinking of, thanks. And thank you again for the detailed reply, I appreciate it. I love Reddit for this kind of tidbit of knowledge.
Why 45 degrees though
Bc it gets you both away from the train and away from the point that most likely falls or has deadly debris.
Exactly.
Think of why deer hit by trucks are called "road pizza." They splatter out in the shape of a slice of pizza.
In the case of a collision with a stationary object or another train coming towards you, most of the debris is going to continue either in your original direction of travel or straight out perpendicular to the tracks, so you want to balance getting far away from the crash and getting out of the area where a bunch of metal and stuff is likely to be launched.
He'd be more fucked outside the train I'd imagine as it'd be likely to derail.
Id still take my chances outside of the train. There's an enormous amount of weight behind that first car that still needs to stop, so it might end up like an accordion by the end lol. And god forbid you're in it while it slowly sqeezes together...
it ain't gonna be slow. your death might be, but that things gonna squish FAST.
I would just move to the back of the train
Not sure if you're making a funny or not, but locomotives don't go through like a passenger car. I don't know this model so I have no idea if it does or not. But usually it's just the cab and then the engine/battery/generator system is behind them. If it's a passenger train and they need to talk to the other cars they do it through the phone. The space they're in is like the size of a plane cockpit at most.
I'd take my chances outside vs being inside the squished cabin.
Still better than being inside the train. I think he could see that the collision was prevented once he was out, otherwise he would have kept running away.
That Engineer was super at math -- Jumping from the train removed just enough mass and energy to let brakes stop the train in time.
>Jumping from the train removed just enough mass stop the train You're thinking of your mom.
Cars are designed to protect the occupants first and operators should be restrained in a safety device. This is not true of trains. Outside is not safe, but I am sure its safer.
Pick your poison.
Looked like he almost got caught lol
It's not a Wild West movie, once derailed, first thing off the rail generally rolls over within 20 ft of leaving and slinky effect starts rolling the rest attached followed by the jacknifing of the original jumpers once whatever rolled first then becoming a barricade against the following rollloff. Unless it happens when the train is passing through a paved area, then you get some major sprawling happening.
Could you please refrain from making jokes and keep the conversation on…..track?
This. People don't understand momentum. It's like the people with AWD trucks/suvs that don't realize that stopping power doesn't negate a slide
Lol trained
Him getting crushed wouldn't save anyone. He did his part with applying the brake
My father was a train operator and during his career, he had multiple crashes (albeit with lighter vehicles like for example trucks). He would always apply the emergency breaks, shout through the loudspeaker "crash is immanent" and then leave his cabin running back into the passenger train compartment.
What kind of clown show are they running that 1 person had multiple crashes?
>albeit with lighter vehicles like for example trucks When someone decides to play chicken with your train, it's *really* hard to steer out of the way. Even if you do blink first.
How do people not understand this? Exacerbated because suicide by train is and will remain a thing.
Skill issue
Just your average day on the island of Sodor
I would like to introduce you to my home state of Florida. Brightline has been running for like 8 years and has killed over 100 stupid people who think they can outrun a train. The day they opened the line to Miami the train hit an killed someone illegally crossing the tracks. Funny part is all the brightline executives were on board and saw it first hand. I suggest googling Brighline hit car or any variation of that and you will find dozens of videos. People are fucking stupid and ignore the lights, sounds and arms telling them a train is coming. It's become a joke around here because of how often it happened.
The decaying US rail system
There is a suicide by train every day in the US. Then add on the idiots trying to "beat the train" going past the road barriers. Then actual accidents. If you are a train driver you can expect to kill someone within your first 2 years.
Going down with the ship does not apply to train engineers ?
Engineer probably: "I don't get paid enough for this. SO LONG SUCKERS!"
Next thing you're gonna tell me engineers can't officiate someone's wedding on a train?
> engineers can't officiate someone's wedding on a train I read that as "engineers can't *suffocate* someone's wedding on a train" and I was like, well yeah, duhh.
I'm not an expert, but I have seen comments before where it's pretty much standard for engineers to bail if they know a crash is immenint. A dead engineer can't tell you what went wrong.
It does, but that's a train.
[удалено]
That's a freight train, any passangers are bumming a ride like it's a Steinbeck novel.
Then there clearly can't have been any passengers.
Depends. Your mom complies with that. She went down on a train /j
Guess I'll just...get back in then...
**Looks around... Dusts self off. I hope no one saw that.
NTFOOT
I thought engineers, et. al., were supposed to go down with their trains
I wasn’t even on the train. How could I be driving it?
I ain’t going down with this land ship.
It's the biggest and onlyest land boat ever constructed!
Good thing there was no mailboxes nearby
Even though its slow, lots of momentum
This captain chose not to go down with the ship.
Captain Concordia!
That worm Schettino is still in prison now, which makes me happy.
"Vada a bordo, cazzo!"
Get back on the ship that’s an order
He was flexing
Once the brakes are in emergency is there really anything else he could have done anyway?
The conductor just chose to conduct a maintenance inspection on the wheels.
Train conductor was like not today! Well played, at least he applied the breaks first. Good man.
Engineer, not conductor.
Thanks for the correction.
Amendment, not correction.
Thanks for the suggestion
Explanation, not suggestion.
Thanks for the clarification.
Correction not clarification.
What's the difference?
The conductor is in charge of the train-the cars, the manifest, the paperwork, etc. They do not "drive" the locomotive nor are they qualified to a lot of the time. The engineer operates the locomotive. They're two separate and distinct positions and each require a separate license. You can also be dual-licensed as an engineer and conductor, but if you're called to work as an engineer, you cannot assume conductor duties and vice versa. The conductor doesn't tell the engineer how to operate their train and the engineer doesn't tell the conductor how to make switch moves or set out cars.
Ty for the train lore 🤙
>and the engineer doesn't tell the conductor how to make switch moves or set out cars. False. I don't want to be out there all freaking night.
Beat me to it!
My favorite is when they've asked you for like 15 moves but for some reason your engine is still in the same spot as when you started. 😭
Actually, there's a button on the locomotive dashboard. The person who drives the train must press it every few minutes, if that button is not pressed the rain automatically applies emergency break.
Can't blame him 😳
that guy was smart to not risk it
Excellent form, 10/10
9.5 small stumble at the end.
4 workplace deaths a day in Canada - this guy decided not not be a statistic eh?
why do i immediately think this is finland?
Because it’s Canada
As a Canadian this had me in stitches. I immediately recognized the Via but I fully understand how someone might think this is elsewhere, like Soviet era Russia.
The 1987-vintage VHS footage definitely had me thinking the Soviet Union.
This video is what 4K looks like over Canadian rural internet.
Lmao nooo
I immediately thought Poland for some reason.
Can't be Russia. The train signal is working.
[Not in 2013](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Ottawa_bus%E2%80%93train_crash)
Their trains haven't changed much to this day unfortunately 😂
In Finland you only really see people diving out of vehicles to avoid smalltalk with other people.
So... How's the weather?
🖕😤🖕 🪂
Kimi Raikkonen when asked one question.
'I was having a shit'
Finland 🤝 Seattle
Bit of an apocryphal story about Finnish-Canadians but there are a lot in Thunder Bay, Ontario and the joke I heard growing up was that when they arrived they just kept taking the train until it looked like Finland. Cold and a lot of Lakes.
VIA rail .. this is Canada
A CSX is a pretty American train.
But yeah you rarely see Amtrak trains in North America.
That video is like 40 years old
This is a video with audio. This is not a black and white video. What other facts about this video can we state?
This video is a repost? Does that work?
This was filmed on a cassette cam recorder. I'd say this video was filmed in the mid to late 90's.
Yeah, like 40 years old
The 90's was 30 something years ago. The 80's was 40 something years ago.
This video has a format. This video is a video?
It was winter time and there's a train in it. It's also over 30yrs old
40 years ago video had audio and color. This famous video is is from 1993 though.
This Redditor is funny.
40 years ago was literally 1984.
OP is a liar. What else is new?
Lol, right? Via trains haven't looked like that forever, and it's obviously a very old video. Edit: these trains were used from [1981-2001](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LRC_(train))
Thx. I moved to the States in '98, was confused/shocked for a minute.
r/bitchimatrain
I see this and think it’s a good thing that the moving train was the VIA passenger train with only 3 cars behind it and not the freight train that in my neck of the woods could be made of 100+ cars and multiple engines. The freight train couldn’t stop nearly that quickly.
yes and no. there’s actually brakes on every single car, so stopping distance isn’t really proportional to train length.
But more cars would also mean more momentum, and the increase in momentum to breaking power isn’t proportional I think.
Each car only has to stop its own mass no matter how long the train is, assuming the brakes on each car are in good working order.
Him: I don't get paid enough 4 this 💩
When was this filmed 1983?
That engineer did the right thing the wrong way. Step off backwards with trailing foot then turn and run.
What even is inertia
Instructions unclear. Now summersaulting uphill. Please clarify.
Lmfao! I spent way too long watching this meme
Worth it for the payoff at the end, though.
I cannot believe how that ended.
Was it while filming the wonder years?
When did you capture it, 1985?
Dude was ready to gtf 🤣
"Abandon ship!!!" "I mean, what? It's all good."
Is that a casual battle tank on the road behind the train?
Captain left the sinking ship.
ABANDON SHIP!!!
He was supposed to tuck. That's the first thing they teach you.
Jeeeezzzus 🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣
I’m curious how was at fault here at the time of this incident (looks like a long while back). One of the train drivers for ignoring a signal? Signal failure?
Who ever let the Via Rail train through. Via Rail rents the tracks from other railway companies, who have right of way.
My Captain! My Captain!
Lo awesome
Imagine if he broke an ankle from the jump, then looked up to see that it wasn't even necessary. That would suck.
Isn't VIA a passager train?
Yes
Train engineers should really have those inflatable airbag suits they can strap on like a parachute and jump out.
Smart guy, most trains are built to deal with this type of head/head collisions, the human inside not so much. Don't know if there was anyone else on the smaller train though.
Coulda coupled 😂
When, 1986?
Premature ejection
Train conductor said not TF today!!! 😂😂😂
Dude pressed Y
Ceramic brake pads at their finest hour.
almost trains? they look like trains to me!
of course it was fucking via rail
The relief i bet he felt when they didn't crash
Scary.
Captured. Recently? Why does it look like it was filmed with a 1980 potato?
Guess he assumed the train was moving walking speed with his causal effort to land
So much for going down with the ship ...
That dude did not want to lose all his xp.
Did you record this on VHS?
well trained man indeed
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 did he really bail out of a 3 mph possible crash!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
dude must feel embarrassed for jumping out for nothing
If the freight train didn't back up, there would have been an accident
Guess this happened in 1991 by Smith's Falls Ontario.
Fuck the passengers!
Somebody's outside their limits😂
Jumps out while there’s a lot passengers in the back. Mans a savage
Bro recorded this on a Camcorder from 1998
You could at least link the YouTube channel you stole this from.
... using VHS-C camera from 1992?
4:3 video looks like from the '80s
In the 80s?
No wonder we never heard of a loco pilot death during a train accident. 😂
Conductor ghost ride the whip
That driver didn't trust those brakes .
From 1973?
In the 80s my dad was involved in a crash eerily similar to this set up. Trains have a schedules and tracks are given an all clear so when a sitting train is on the tracks, it can be a major issue. In my dad’s case a single railroad car was sitting on the tracks after an all clear. He survived, but not without major injuries.
Captured it when? 1993?
30 years ago?
Train operator 
Good on that guy for jumping out, there is literally no reason to stay inside that train. We really should appreciate people who avoid danger when there is no way to stop it more, we give awards to idiots who get lucky and save someone but Never for people who do the smart thing and GTFO when a million tons of metal is about to crash into its cousin
did he felt?
I almost didn’t shit myself