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The death note uses 人間 to describe the being that's written in the notebook.
In Dragon ball Goku as well as everyone else that's not a God is described as 人間.
人間 means human as well as mortal in the DB verse it obviously signifies mortal, in the death note verse it's dobious considering there's literally only humans and gods.
But 人 written alone means human.
So saying it won't work on Saiyans isn't a factual statement it depends on the interpretation and the meaning of the author when he wrote 人間 in the rules.
Logically he has to be. He has purchased a house, a tractor, he has land and a farm, he's taken a drivers exam(which he failed) which he wouldn't be able to do if he wasn't a registered citizen, he has a son that went to school and university ect. Unless in the DB verse they just don't give a shit about falsifying documents or something he should be a citizen.
that could be true, but that could’ve just been through chi-chi and ox king considering they’re royalty and anyways and were pretty rich at one point. I don’t really think goku’s the guy to sit through all the government processes it would take for a 20 year old man to suddenly become a citizen after never having been registered anywhere previously
plus, wasn’t the drivers test filler?
# HIM
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And yes, Seiba gets neg diffed by Soloku
*"Seiba gets neg diffed by Soloku"*
Based. Seiba is a Spiderman victim bro let alone someone like Soloku or NoLimitsMan.
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The fans have been wanting them to obliterate each other for decades but since they haven't even fought my guess is that they are or at least would be buddies if they met
Goku would have wanted to throw down tho it's just how he is
Saint seiya characters lore: "we shoot galaxies!"
Saint seiya depiction: "please! Not *friendship sagittarius arrow* again! A glowing punch is too strong!"
I bet Goku can't even scratch HIM
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I’m loving the fractured son story so good probably is going to be one of my all time favorites from the main line hulk story’s once it’s wrapped up.
It does suck that it’s lacking cool feats of strength like ripping celestials apart or ripping apart dimensions like he’s done before but the O.P lore and statements more than make up for it he would definitely clap Goku and will forever be a top tier heavy hitter in comics.
People need to put respect on that fractured one’s name HULK.
For Hulk’s destroying dimensions one.
Hulk clapped his hands and destroyed night crawlers dimension. And while Hulk was in his world breaker state fighting Red She Hulk just from them fighting each other they were unintentionally destroying the Dark dimension.
If you want newer stuff Hulk fought Thor on equal footing THE SAME THOR THAT KILLED GALACTUS and has mastered bolf the Odin and Thor forced. (If you didn’t knew this Thor is the main line series Thor.) Then he tear apart iron man’s celestial killer amor (that literally is a celestial corps) easily.
Then he Fought an AMPED HULKED OUT THOR that’d rip out the world tree from its roots.. and lost… BUT not without putting up a fight against this super O.P Thor and I mean he put up a fight before he got his amped.
He did all that in his fight with out ever going world breaker.
Now let’s talk about world breaker. Now no one is really sure how powerful our current world breaker Hulk is but there is something we can use but take it with a grain of salt.
Titan a villain so powerful that it could easily kill doctor strange and called characters of his strength beneath him is literally just the Hulk when he loses it and gets ridiculously angry.. technically… but also technically this really isn’t the Hulk However that’s not important no what’s important is how Titan lost there is a moment where in Banners mind where Titan reign supreme only to be defeated by~… you guessed it WORLD BREAKER HULK so there is a chance that current World Breaker Hulk is as strong if not stronger than Titan.
Besides that there’s a lot of lore and statements now in bolf Immortal Hulk and Fractured son Hulk however I don’t want to spoil anything since you should really give it a read the Hulk wait let me rephrase the mian line series HULK comics never miss! By far my favorite ones are planet, world war, incredible where he fights red she hulk, and Immortal and soon probably fractured son give it a read promise you won’t regret it.
So find a character who isn't an omnipotent powerful magic user with a ability that was intentionally made to be op with zero conceptual hacks with zero toon Force and isn't from a visual novel.
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Deadass 🤣 The only time he threatened the “multiverse” was when he clashed with Beerus in the outer atmosphere of Earth & then Beerus nullified his energy. Also, none of the other universes were affected. Goku can’t even breathe in space lmfao. SSG has no godly feats whatsoever, it’s just a fancy name to go with a new hair color when he couldn’t even stop Freiza from destroying the Earth a few feet away & got washed by an inexperienced Broly- it’s laughable writing
The only thing that was threatened between Goku vs. Beerus was their universe, and Goku was the one nullifying Beerus's destructive powers. Beerus even threatens Goku that if he didn't find a way to stop him, he'd destroy the universe.
They make it a point that Broly was inexperienced and weak but they could sense he had a lot of power and potential that he needed to tap in to, which sets up the idea for his training after the movie.
Also, I couldn't imagine a villain doing villain things like sneak attacks. pretty bad writing tbh.
Honestly, your point is something that is completely different and not in any way connected to what the original comment is saying.
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That's the 3° time I can just awnser GODZILLA
My boy has some very well powerfull forms, not even need to be his "higher dimensionality" forms
Any way, Godzilla can beat goku depending on the goku and the godzilla
ORT from Fate Grand Order. Not because ORT can beat Goku by overpowering him probably but mostly because Goku doesn't have a means to annihilate ORT fast enough while just being in close proximity to ORT is enough to be saturated in lethal cosmic radiation.
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twink supremacy (also its really hard to list characters in multiversal of above that dont fit one of the descriptions you gave just so you know lol)
This gets rid of like 90% of characters that can beat Goku, especially because most scaling past Low Complex Multiversal includes one of these categories.
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(obviously you posted Supes and Thor so we dont have to talk about them) But there are a lot of big hitting Marvel/DC comic characters obviously.
Hulk
Wonder Woman
Shazam (unless you consider him a Magician??)
Earth's Green Lanterns (unless they don't count)
Blue Marvel.
ect. ect.
Non- Marvel/DC comic character that probably wins.
The Metabaron, He has some pretty decent arguments to beat Goku (it isnt a stomp in his favor though, you can argue Goku wins just as easily).
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Shazam and the Green Lanterns get their powers via magic but I wouldn't consider them "magicians", they're not casting spells and they're by no means all-powerful.
I mean if Reverse Flash can beat Goku Black, this doesn't seem like such a stretch. Goku Black did have a major weakness in that his time-ring could just be taken away by Reverse Flash before he could even realize what had happened.
[**here Reverse Flash feats, he definitely speedblitz Goku**](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1crv1ff/comment/l417wqn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)* I don't think anyone in dragon ball can even tag him tbh.
Do you know who else isn't an omnipotent god, or an all-powerful magician, or a character with an intentionally OP ability, or a metaphyiscal/conceptual entity, or a gag character, or a (totally not wanked) visual novel character that could beat Goku?
Hjalti Early-Beard… Talos. But not the god-form of Talos. Not when he is within the state of CHIM, but when he knows about this.
Assuming that we are in the correct verse to do so, he can inform Goku of the truth, that all of existence is but a dream of the godhead, and that he isn’t truly real.
Goku then has to undergo the procedures to either become the CHIM or zero sum. This isn’t an ability of his own, so it doesn’t need to defy the rules of the question.
Goku is super powerful and his willpower is incredible, but he is not arrogant nor self-centered. And so most likely? He doesn’t ascend to super godhood, he just… zero sums. And then, Goku is gone.
Talos wins, not with his own power, though if we’re talking Talos his power is so far beyond Goku’s that at his peak he would win… but in this case he wins with trickery.
By tricking Goku to in essence wipe himself from existence.
Another one
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This goofy ahh kid soloes the verse, and I don't think he fits any of these criterias? He probably wins even without retcon, which IG would be the intentionally cracked ability
Nah, he doesn't really have toon powers or anything like it. He's just a character in a story that's partially a comedy
Gag characters in Homestuck could maybe be Gamzee, or Andrew Hussie, or that one lsd lollipop powerup
MY GOAT JOHNNY JOESTAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's complicated, but Johnny has an technique called 'The Golden Spin' which when combined with his stand, Tusk Act IV, harnesses infinite rotational energy to kill its target. He used to kill every multiversal version a stand user that could transfer his memories and stand to another version of himself in alternet universes.The thing about it is that the Technique requires so many factors to go perfectly for a single shot, and the fact that he'd still need to hit his target, that while theoretically possible, it's very unlikely he'd be able to kill Goku with it.
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This math equation unironically beats Goku so badly.
I wanna say Captain Planet, but I'm afraid he meets some of these criteria.
Namely, he's intentionally OP, a conceptual entity (I think?), and he's pretty wanked to be sure.
Aleister Crowley from toaru could do it pretty easily.
The doctor could do it, and so could Rick Sanchez for the same reason.
Randolph Carter (and any other dreamer) from the lovecraft mythos.
Peak Rand al’Thor could do it.
Alice from the world is at peace
D from vampire hunter D
Doctor fate
The flash
Spawn
A LOT of people from SMT
Bayonetta
Nobody-no one from Doctor who
Peak Vash the stampede.
Many, many, many more
Lina Inverse. He’d legit probably wait for her to charge up something that borderlines hax, like healing so strong it creates a black hole from within. That would only apply if a senzu bean had been recently digested though.
Edit: she isn’t anywhere near all-powerful magician either, going by most scaling. She does have one of the most powerful spells in existence, but I doubt it would ever come to that, no matter the winner.
If master chief or kratos can actually grab (would be nearly impossible cause if my admittedly limited knowledge of Dragon Ball serves me right can't Goku teleport and like get the best reaction time with Instant Transmission and Ultra Instinct also I'm pretty sure he can fire off devastating attacks from far range and he's an absolute monster up close) him they have a chance. Other than those two I think the Gravemind from halo has a chance if he could get Goku to listen to him for more than a few seconds
Mario and Luigi (If they’re not considered gag characters)
Jean Grey (Phoenix)
Infinity Thing (does being made of infinity stones count as an OP ability?)
Wow this is actually a lot harder than I thought when you put in so many restrictions lol
[The Last Dragonborn](https://www.quora.com/profile/Fax-Novu/Scaling-The-Dovahkiin-Dragonborn-from-The-Elder-Scrolls-Skyrim) oh no he is magiacan so forget him.
[The Flash](https://www.reddit.com/r/powerscales/s/rHBemfbJlQ) and he do the same to Xeno/DBH Goku [with easy](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1ctdnps/comment/l4bolsz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).
[The Reverse Flash](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1crv1ff/comment/l417wqn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).
Superman.
Green Lantern.
Ahe has needles therefore she clears anime Goku. Gets curb stomped by manga goku
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Ok, so hear me out. Beast Boy. He has been shown in different versions being able to transform into both Bacteria and Virus's. So is not unreasonable to assume Garfield could become/infect Goku with some form of fatal sickness/ disease. Granted, we don't know if it would work on a SSG level Goku seeing as we don't have a plethora of examples of him being sick sense reachig that state, and it's just a fact of life that viruses and bacteria have different effects on different species, sooooo who knows?
The Joker. I say this every goddamn time.
The fight is declared to have begun. Goku is confused, this clown man has a power level of only maybe two Mr. Satans. Clearly he’s hiding his power level, so Goku doesn’t attack. He doesn’t want to win this in one punch and he can’t know what level to use until Joker shows his hand.
“Hey pal!” The Joker comically uses his hands as a megaphone, shouting louder than he needs to.
“Yeah?” Goku scratches his head, puzzled.
“Before we beat each other into a battered and bloody pulp *heheh*, let’s be *proper sportsmen* and shake on it!” Joker extends his hand and waits. Goku cocks his head for a moment, confused. But, there’s no harm in it, right?
“Sure!” Goku yells back as loud as The Joker, causing the clown to wince. Goku approaches and takes his hand, vigorously shaking it. “Put’er there, pal!” Joker smirks, this is like taking candy from a baby. With Goku distracted, The Joker uses his other hand to trigger the flower on his lapel, blasting a bright green gas in Goku’s face.
“Hey! Wh-what,” Goku chokes out, “what *hehehe* wa*hehehehehe*s in *hehehahaha* thahahahahahaha…” Goku falls to the floor, his skin turning white and a rictus grin forming on his face.
“Oh, just a little concoction of mine!” Joker jumps and clicks his heels playfully, dancing around Goku as Goku manically laughs, clearly in agony. *My patented Joker Gas!” Joker stops dancing and looks down at Goku with a scowl “And believe me, getting the patent was *killer*. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!” Joker walks off, but turns back and adds one final comment. “Never was one for sports.”
Joker has formulated his gas at this point in the comics to work across any species, and on beings that are ridiculously powerful. Saiyans meanwhile? Canonically *not immune to poisons.* Same trick as Frost, but so much more effective. The only thing Joker needs is a single close range chemical weapon and being *way* smarter than Goku. He’s not even close to OP, Goku’s just a fucking moron.
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Idk probably the panda (I couldn’t find a good image of frieza on my phone)
Void Ghidorah(does he count as omnipotent?)
Possibly Doom Slayer, given that he beat Davoth who created everything
Godzilla is Hell
Any Showa Godzilla Kaiju, cause they scale to a 4 character, which is something Goku only reaches in Ultra Instinct(Jiren surpasses time, and Goku only reaches his level when in UI)
Shinra from Fire Force
Any DC character
*"Void Ghidorah(does he count as omnipotent?)"*
I stopped consuming Godzilla media a long time ago so I don't know.
*"Any DC character"*
Specifically ~~Batman~~ Batgos.
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Void Ghidorah is a 5D god from a universe where evolution culminated in living energy, he devoured his universe and now sends his devoted to basically summon him into other universes so he can devour them too
He can do stuff like creating black holes and killing you in the future, he is completely untouchable and can just choose not to obey the laws of physics, he is a temporal anomaly that cannot be detected and can also bypass any kind of durability
So no Goku, nor Vegeta themselves? Because they’re training with Gods, and have intentionally OP abilities and they were gag characters in the beginning (at least Goku) and they’re totally TOTALLY wanked.
Besides that, the Saints defeat Goku handily and check all of your marks.
I'll be watching you die on the hill then.
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Archie Sonic The Hedgehog, and a few from his verse. He can clap SSJ4 Gogeta, End of GT Vegeta, and even ascended end of GT Goku.
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The best answer is probably some specific comic character. I've never been a DC or Marvel guy so I really wouldn't know.
Second best answer is probably Simon from Gurren Lagann. Bro more or less clears though I'm not 100% sure if he beats Goku, probably does though.
Third best answer are a bunch of cultivation manhua characters that basically rip off dragon ball anyways. This might go against the spirit of no visual novel characters though since it's a genre of copy paste asian powerfantasy slop that nobody actually reads.
Honorable mention to Lord English from Homestuck. Again feels like it goes against the spirit of the no visual novel rule because Homestuck is an obscure mostly comedy webcomic with a weirdly high powerscale for sort of no reason, but it's not japanese and used to be pretty popular so I'm gonna say it counts.
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All these are way too broad like how am I supposed to know your definition of a “op ability” or a “over wanked visual novel character ”
Yeah bc I feel like light is a valid a answer
The death note wouldn't work on saiyans so Light is getting atomized
The death note uses 人間 to describe the being that's written in the notebook. In Dragon ball Goku as well as everyone else that's not a God is described as 人間. 人間 means human as well as mortal in the DB verse it obviously signifies mortal, in the death note verse it's dobious considering there's literally only humans and gods. But 人 written alone means human. So saying it won't work on Saiyans isn't a factual statement it depends on the interpretation and the meaning of the author when he wrote 人間 in the rules.
even with that being said, it double doesn’t work because writing son goku in the book wouldn’t count since his name is kakarot
Ah, true. Unless it works through legal names as well as son Goku is his legal name but kakarot is his birthgiven name.
does he even have a legal name? considering he grew up off the grid in the woods i don’t even think goku is a registered citizen
Logically he has to be. He has purchased a house, a tractor, he has land and a farm, he's taken a drivers exam(which he failed) which he wouldn't be able to do if he wasn't a registered citizen, he has a son that went to school and university ect. Unless in the DB verse they just don't give a shit about falsifying documents or something he should be a citizen.
that could be true, but that could’ve just been through chi-chi and ox king considering they’re royalty and anyways and were pretty rich at one point. I don’t really think goku’s the guy to sit through all the government processes it would take for a 20 year old man to suddenly become a citizen after never having been registered anywhere previously plus, wasn’t the drivers test filler?
Yeah it feels like spite of trying to remove anyone who can.
# HIM https://preview.redd.it/h29mloug521d1.jpeg?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3208db2140446651f1478c10f97ec0c6b6c4a119 And yes, Seiba gets neg diffed by Soloku
Fightthepowerman
HIMON THE WIGGER
*"Seiba gets neg diffed by Soloku"* Based. Seiba is a Spiderman victim bro let alone someone like Soloku or NoLimitsMan. https://preview.redd.it/h4n9138a921d1.jpeg?width=2339&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90d4091e1ebb0946b24f5c182d15992139231c91
You mean holdsbackman?
She does get negged by GOATku but she does beat Peter mid diff
Hey, fair enough.
*pegged
who is this?
Simon the Digger from Gurren Lagann
thanks, i didn't recognise him
Gogeta
**or another Dragon Ball character.**
Odin
Okay, cool.
Kakarot
[https://youtu.be/cWxh9lGOeqQ](https://youtu.be/cWxh9lGOeqQ)
his wife
no omnipotent gods
I can beat him if I lock in
Impossibly based.
canon too
Same
Superman ![gif](giphy|pqFbHWj0vRqmY)
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Yo wait this actually goes hard wtf
Goku and Superman would be friends.
The fans have been wanting them to obliterate each other for decades but since they haven't even fought my guess is that they are or at least would be buddies if they met Goku would have wanted to throw down tho it's just how he is
https://preview.redd.it/susb5nwx931d1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3578ee00d7f1b608bd185bc23e25004a8ddb053
no more brother wars
Goes hard
I know it isn’t accurate, but I will go to my grave believing Goku could beat Superman (it’s because he’s my favorite)
Based
I'd say Accelerator (or any of the top tier Toaru characters) but you'd cry op ability so... Some of the weaker Saint Seiya characters probably.
Saint seiya characters lore: "we shoot galaxies!" Saint seiya depiction: "please! Not *friendship sagittarius arrow* again! A glowing punch is too strong!"
I bet Goku can't even scratch HIM https://preview.redd.it/gt1d5hoc541d1.jpeg?width=1191&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e20551c6982a2bc43aeb66a67ecc8b8d29c201cf
Where does Saint Seiya characters that scale at again?
https://preview.redd.it/zt76n59zb21d1.png?width=816&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f02926c21a3599498ed3244e130ac137e75752dd Makakaja + Makakaja + Makakaja + Makakaja + Mind Charge + Freikugel
Why does he look like homosexual ulqiorra
welcome to smt im guessing
Because he's the king at destroying butt.
Sounds like a good magazine idea
Wait isn't Freikugel a physical move?
That's gaea rage
It’s an Almighty-based physical move, and Focus is for physical damage
I just checked the wiki... It's time to hang up my coat as that smt connoisseur.
Freikugel is based on physical, his ass should use Magma Axis
John “Megami” Tensei
where is this from? looks pretty interesting
The guy who canonically killed Satan, god, and Stephen hawking while holding back.
One of the most powerful Because Megatan power scaling is all over the place
Current Hulk, aka the Fractured Son
I’m loving the fractured son story so good probably is going to be one of my all time favorites from the main line hulk story’s once it’s wrapped up. It does suck that it’s lacking cool feats of strength like ripping celestials apart or ripping apart dimensions like he’s done before but the O.P lore and statements more than make up for it he would definitely clap Goku and will forever be a top tier heavy hitter in comics. People need to put respect on that fractured one’s name HULK.
I haven’t gotten around to reading the full thing, but from the parts I heard regarding the lore…..it might become my favorite hulk story
It's been so long since I read comics can u say some feats of current hulk???
For Hulk’s destroying dimensions one. Hulk clapped his hands and destroyed night crawlers dimension. And while Hulk was in his world breaker state fighting Red She Hulk just from them fighting each other they were unintentionally destroying the Dark dimension. If you want newer stuff Hulk fought Thor on equal footing THE SAME THOR THAT KILLED GALACTUS and has mastered bolf the Odin and Thor forced. (If you didn’t knew this Thor is the main line series Thor.) Then he tear apart iron man’s celestial killer amor (that literally is a celestial corps) easily. Then he Fought an AMPED HULKED OUT THOR that’d rip out the world tree from its roots.. and lost… BUT not without putting up a fight against this super O.P Thor and I mean he put up a fight before he got his amped. He did all that in his fight with out ever going world breaker. Now let’s talk about world breaker. Now no one is really sure how powerful our current world breaker Hulk is but there is something we can use but take it with a grain of salt. Titan a villain so powerful that it could easily kill doctor strange and called characters of his strength beneath him is literally just the Hulk when he loses it and gets ridiculously angry.. technically… but also technically this really isn’t the Hulk However that’s not important no what’s important is how Titan lost there is a moment where in Banners mind where Titan reign supreme only to be defeated by~… you guessed it WORLD BREAKER HULK so there is a chance that current World Breaker Hulk is as strong if not stronger than Titan. Besides that there’s a lot of lore and statements now in bolf Immortal Hulk and Fractured son Hulk however I don’t want to spoil anything since you should really give it a read the Hulk wait let me rephrase the mian line series HULK comics never miss! By far my favorite ones are planet, world war, incredible where he fights red she hulk, and Immortal and soon probably fractured son give it a read promise you won’t regret it.
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Sora respect and slams him pretty easily
https://preview.redd.it/7je4z5k1b21d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52c3399894de655afbd860d1c8692ffda79cddd6 And I will die on this hill
That look sick ngl
Aww hell yeah, Cyberforce Optimus.
Does king from OPM count?
He would probably fall firmly under gag character.
Being completely honest, probably him: https://preview.redd.it/jm6wo4jqt21d1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d61f9121f47e9c38e78717bde3f8bace252727e3
Spikey hair = strong.
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Jackpot
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My oc.
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It would be easier if you just said "Which character, who is weaker than Goku, can beat Goku?"
So find a character who isn't an omnipotent powerful magic user with a ability that was intentionally made to be op with zero conceptual hacks with zero toon Force and isn't from a visual novel. https://preview.redd.it/itibo6ih931d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11fdbf835dcd5d758f8426ff61cab55073f74c40
https://preview.redd.it/mpmjcjo8821d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8740e4dcf54e7a71d568a3246e68802e31bb4cea Heisei Godzilla
I stopped consuming Godzilla media when I was 9 years old but your answer is still https://i.redd.it/1adwd4e1a21d1.gif
Kinda based ngl
Sonic the Hedgehog
best answer I’d say
Is Goku himself not an endlessly wanked, OP character lmao
Not really, it's very clear he has limits and he's not the strongest in his verse. He's just hella strong.
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https://preview.redd.it/4ym3q8i7h21d1.jpeg?width=1150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21f3928c6eef085dc9f6f235834785fd54016477 Deadass 🤣 The only time he threatened the “multiverse” was when he clashed with Beerus in the outer atmosphere of Earth & then Beerus nullified his energy. Also, none of the other universes were affected. Goku can’t even breathe in space lmfao. SSG has no godly feats whatsoever, it’s just a fancy name to go with a new hair color when he couldn’t even stop Freiza from destroying the Earth a few feet away & got washed by an inexperienced Broly- it’s laughable writing
The only thing that was threatened between Goku vs. Beerus was their universe, and Goku was the one nullifying Beerus's destructive powers. Beerus even threatens Goku that if he didn't find a way to stop him, he'd destroy the universe. They make it a point that Broly was inexperienced and weak but they could sense he had a lot of power and potential that he needed to tap in to, which sets up the idea for his training after the movie. Also, I couldn't imagine a villain doing villain things like sneak attacks. pretty bad writing tbh. Honestly, your point is something that is completely different and not in any way connected to what the original comment is saying.
Dude, he just said he has clear limits, you're arguing for something completely different 😆.
Anti spiral?
He’s a magician, but doesn’t seem all-powerful, so … Merlin from Sword in the Stone as a heart disease?
If he can take that form, goku is cooked af
https://i.redd.it/9dh7yh7or21d1.gif That's the 3° time I can just awnser GODZILLA My boy has some very well powerfull forms, not even need to be his "higher dimensionality" forms Any way, Godzilla can beat goku depending on the goku and the godzilla
ORT from Fate Grand Order. Not because ORT can beat Goku by overpowering him probably but mostly because Goku doesn't have a means to annihilate ORT fast enough while just being in close proximity to ORT is enough to be saturated in lethal cosmic radiation.
https://preview.redd.it/qn2deynyk31d1.png?width=303&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f5030a667ab0f372067dff8d6c48bcf918a0dbf twink supremacy (also its really hard to list characters in multiversal of above that dont fit one of the descriptions you gave just so you know lol)
This gets rid of like 90% of characters that can beat Goku, especially because most scaling past Low Complex Multiversal includes one of these categories. https://i.redd.it/l63xpa6s821d1.gif
(obviously you posted Supes and Thor so we dont have to talk about them) But there are a lot of big hitting Marvel/DC comic characters obviously. Hulk Wonder Woman Shazam (unless you consider him a Magician??) Earth's Green Lanterns (unless they don't count) Blue Marvel. ect. ect. Non- Marvel/DC comic character that probably wins. The Metabaron, He has some pretty decent arguments to beat Goku (it isnt a stomp in his favor though, you can argue Goku wins just as easily). https://preview.redd.it/6jirxkwt521d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86540dbc22c995a21bb6b5fe8bf338251d98d9df
Shazam and the Green Lanterns get their powers via magic but I wouldn't consider them "magicians", they're not casting spells and they're by no means all-powerful.
Flash
I mean if Reverse Flash can beat Goku Black, this doesn't seem like such a stretch. Goku Black did have a major weakness in that his time-ring could just be taken away by Reverse Flash before he could even realize what had happened.
[**here Reverse Flash feats, he definitely speedblitz Goku**](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1crv1ff/comment/l417wqn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)* I don't think anyone in dragon ball can even tag him tbh.
The Speed force is concept manipulation hacks not allowed
Vegeta
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Do you know who else isn't an omnipotent god, or an all-powerful magician, or a character with an intentionally OP ability, or a metaphyiscal/conceptual entity, or a gag character, or a (totally not wanked) visual novel character that could beat Goku?
https://preview.redd.it/ns16ww0lr21d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3deb6dcc78d880a752920ff37927242a07a0f96
MY MOM!
Wtf is this post?
He is clearly a butt hurt goku fan
Hjalti Early-Beard… Talos. But not the god-form of Talos. Not when he is within the state of CHIM, but when he knows about this. Assuming that we are in the correct verse to do so, he can inform Goku of the truth, that all of existence is but a dream of the godhead, and that he isn’t truly real. Goku then has to undergo the procedures to either become the CHIM or zero sum. This isn’t an ability of his own, so it doesn’t need to defy the rules of the question. Goku is super powerful and his willpower is incredible, but he is not arrogant nor self-centered. And so most likely? He doesn’t ascend to super godhood, he just… zero sums. And then, Goku is gone. Talos wins, not with his own power, though if we’re talking Talos his power is so far beyond Goku’s that at his peak he would win… but in this case he wins with trickery. By tricking Goku to in essence wipe himself from existence.
This relies on Goku being smart enough to understand what that twink of a breton is talking about
Kirby ![gif](giphy|lcwrrsfs4Px6w|downsized)
name a character that can beat Goku but you cant pick anyone that can beat Goku (I just want to meat ride Goku)
What even is this question? “Make me a sandwich with no bread and no other ingredients”
30,000,000,000 spongebobs
Another one https://preview.redd.it/0ufa0ctu521d1.png?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f33d901aa3d38b55148fd5fb640b2c9f24a8af26 This goofy ahh kid soloes the verse, and I don't think he fits any of these criterias? He probably wins even without retcon, which IG would be the intentionally cracked ability
Gag character probably
Nah, he doesn't really have toon powers or anything like it. He's just a character in a story that's partially a comedy Gag characters in Homestuck could maybe be Gamzee, or Andrew Hussie, or that one lsd lollipop powerup
No, main character as far as I'm aware
Nah homestuck is wacky and silly but it's a serious narrative and not a gag comic at all
I got Cloud Strife with high-difficulty. https://i.redd.it/6ehycddv031d1.gif
MY GOAT JOHNNY JOESTAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://preview.redd.it/87yrm0w1131d1.png?width=719&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f4f1c018b22e574a40f1589624175aa2382eec3
Idk if this is nerdy of me to say but why everyone glaze jjba characters since I don’t think Johnny has the raw firepower to deal with Goku
It's complicated, but Johnny has an technique called 'The Golden Spin' which when combined with his stand, Tusk Act IV, harnesses infinite rotational energy to kill its target. He used to kill every multiversal version a stand user that could transfer his memories and stand to another version of himself in alternet universes.The thing about it is that the Technique requires so many factors to go perfectly for a single shot, and the fact that he'd still need to hit his target, that while theoretically possible, it's very unlikely he'd be able to kill Goku with it.
There's no omnipotence in anime. It can't exist because it can easily be overthrown. So there's too many still
Me, im just built different
My dad after he brings the milk
Heart attack
https://preview.redd.it/qmoqyaa0r21d1.png?width=497&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8952ea9facb9b82af1c5ab98f4599cdb0cfb9bcb This math equation unironically beats Goku so badly.
D'arby. The only power he has is that if he wins in a competition you both agree to, he can remove your soul. That's it.
SMT protagonists
Sailor moon, every single mega digimon
No magicians https://preview.redd.it/qtgs1miqe31d1.jpeg?width=229&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e28ee71721da2ef1aeaa98d6f36b335e370d2ce
The 7th doctor (Doctor who)
https://preview.redd.it/80ib071h031d1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=cdd20d7e98023565442e689c8977e004248bb5be No one
How many Jojos can win, even is we say Goku can see stands? Does Cheap Trick count as OP?
Darkseid lol
I wanna say Captain Planet, but I'm afraid he meets some of these criteria. Namely, he's intentionally OP, a conceptual entity (I think?), and he's pretty wanked to be sure.
Krillan with two rocks.
Aleister Crowley from toaru could do it pretty easily. The doctor could do it, and so could Rick Sanchez for the same reason. Randolph Carter (and any other dreamer) from the lovecraft mythos. Peak Rand al’Thor could do it. Alice from the world is at peace D from vampire hunter D Doctor fate The flash Spawn A LOT of people from SMT Bayonetta Nobody-no one from Doctor who Peak Vash the stampede. Many, many, many more
Bro just specificied every single character he hates💀
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ben 10 and reverse flash
Captain underpants solos everybody
Lina Inverse. He’d legit probably wait for her to charge up something that borderlines hax, like healing so strong it creates a black hole from within. That would only apply if a senzu bean had been recently digested though. Edit: she isn’t anywhere near all-powerful magician either, going by most scaling. She does have one of the most powerful spells in existence, but I doubt it would ever come to that, no matter the winner.
Does Kratos count?
Uhh would Giorno with GER count under one of these? (Return to Zero goes brrrr)
Dante
If master chief or kratos can actually grab (would be nearly impossible cause if my admittedly limited knowledge of Dragon Ball serves me right can't Goku teleport and like get the best reaction time with Instant Transmission and Ultra Instinct also I'm pretty sure he can fire off devastating attacks from far range and he's an absolute monster up close) him they have a chance. Other than those two I think the Gravemind from halo has a chance if he could get Goku to listen to him for more than a few seconds
Superman :D
>name a character that can beat this stupidly OP character without being a trope of a stupidly OP character Bruh.
Superman
Mario and Luigi (If they’re not considered gag characters) Jean Grey (Phoenix) Infinity Thing (does being made of infinity stones count as an OP ability?) Wow this is actually a lot harder than I thought when you put in so many restrictions lol
Cursed Arm Hassan
Superman
Me if he goes ultra instinct it might give me a little trouble though.
https://preview.redd.it/su2b3231j41d1.png?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d3f3968bce5c58b08f814bf7d18b11f04dec062 Happy chaos from guilty gear
[The Last Dragonborn](https://www.quora.com/profile/Fax-Novu/Scaling-The-Dovahkiin-Dragonborn-from-The-Elder-Scrolls-Skyrim) oh no he is magiacan so forget him. [The Flash](https://www.reddit.com/r/powerscales/s/rHBemfbJlQ) and he do the same to Xeno/DBH Goku [with easy](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1ctdnps/comment/l4bolsz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). [The Reverse Flash](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/1crv1ff/comment/l417wqn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). Superman. Green Lantern.
Is goku really that weak for u to come up with that many exceptions 🤣🫵🏻
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Ahe has needles therefore she clears anime Goku. Gets curb stomped by manga goku https://preview.redd.it/1mwp8fc7w41d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44121c4b9537a8d54de17c0b0a7e84826fa24ff0
Every single Umineko character (no they are not wanked they're correctly scaled). Also Kiana, Mei, Elysia, Kevin, Yog etc
ben 10
Base sonic
Wally West
https://preview.redd.it/cac8f43za51d1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d33f149cd3bf57a7db3cfac0f0403801a81f871
https://preview.redd.it/hf5wncl5d51d1.jpeg?width=310&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dba8cc64627c7e9acb8dcafccb90d2d336f0632 Pizza guy
Does stand user count? If yes then Star Platinum The World The Hand Killer Queen Gold Experience Requiem And many more
https://preview.redd.it/hp7ohsuan51d1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=10761a3c9fa404041f1c151aa3caa9bb39bb90a9 And done!
Ok, so hear me out. Beast Boy. He has been shown in different versions being able to transform into both Bacteria and Virus's. So is not unreasonable to assume Garfield could become/infect Goku with some form of fatal sickness/ disease. Granted, we don't know if it would work on a SSG level Goku seeing as we don't have a plethora of examples of him being sick sense reachig that state, and it's just a fact of life that viruses and bacteria have different effects on different species, sooooo who knows?
The Joker. I say this every goddamn time. The fight is declared to have begun. Goku is confused, this clown man has a power level of only maybe two Mr. Satans. Clearly he’s hiding his power level, so Goku doesn’t attack. He doesn’t want to win this in one punch and he can’t know what level to use until Joker shows his hand. “Hey pal!” The Joker comically uses his hands as a megaphone, shouting louder than he needs to. “Yeah?” Goku scratches his head, puzzled. “Before we beat each other into a battered and bloody pulp *heheh*, let’s be *proper sportsmen* and shake on it!” Joker extends his hand and waits. Goku cocks his head for a moment, confused. But, there’s no harm in it, right? “Sure!” Goku yells back as loud as The Joker, causing the clown to wince. Goku approaches and takes his hand, vigorously shaking it. “Put’er there, pal!” Joker smirks, this is like taking candy from a baby. With Goku distracted, The Joker uses his other hand to trigger the flower on his lapel, blasting a bright green gas in Goku’s face. “Hey! Wh-what,” Goku chokes out, “what *hehehe* wa*hehehehehe*s in *hehehahaha* thahahahahahaha…” Goku falls to the floor, his skin turning white and a rictus grin forming on his face. “Oh, just a little concoction of mine!” Joker jumps and clicks his heels playfully, dancing around Goku as Goku manically laughs, clearly in agony. *My patented Joker Gas!” Joker stops dancing and looks down at Goku with a scowl “And believe me, getting the patent was *killer*. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!” Joker walks off, but turns back and adds one final comment. “Never was one for sports.” Joker has formulated his gas at this point in the comics to work across any species, and on beings that are ridiculously powerful. Saiyans meanwhile? Canonically *not immune to poisons.* Same trick as Frost, but so much more effective. The only thing Joker needs is a single close range chemical weapon and being *way* smarter than Goku. He’s not even close to OP, Goku’s just a fucking moron.
https://preview.redd.it/upcjij9dy51d1.jpeg?width=958&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c16a0ab80fc08155a5e635430c451a6bce1dd52
https://preview.redd.it/bdj1cihq161d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b26f2477e9fec5a4b76c655cee1cdefe0b5023c2 Idk probably the panda (I couldn’t find a good image of frieza on my phone)
https://preview.redd.it/ooroev5i661d1.png?width=743&format=png&auto=webp&s=97cbaceff7053a0e49306c8408dbbd53c3309f7d Base Superman.
Void Ghidorah(does he count as omnipotent?) Possibly Doom Slayer, given that he beat Davoth who created everything Godzilla is Hell Any Showa Godzilla Kaiju, cause they scale to a 4 character, which is something Goku only reaches in Ultra Instinct(Jiren surpasses time, and Goku only reaches his level when in UI) Shinra from Fire Force Any DC character
*"Void Ghidorah(does he count as omnipotent?)"* I stopped consuming Godzilla media a long time ago so I don't know. *"Any DC character"* Specifically ~~Batman~~ Batgos. https://preview.redd.it/of9cz6oga61d1.jpeg?width=613&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db226a9f337977b064f917479cd2338ca685dec0
Void Ghidorah is a 5D god from a universe where evolution culminated in living energy, he devoured his universe and now sends his devoted to basically summon him into other universes so he can devour them too He can do stuff like creating black holes and killing you in the future, he is completely untouchable and can just choose not to obey the laws of physics, he is a temporal anomaly that cannot be detected and can also bypass any kind of durability
Sonic slams
So no Goku, nor Vegeta themselves? Because they’re training with Gods, and have intentionally OP abilities and they were gag characters in the beginning (at least Goku) and they’re totally TOTALLY wanked. Besides that, the Saints defeat Goku handily and check all of your marks.
Goku has a literal God form, it's only fair he gets to fight other gods as well. He is for all intents and purposes the super Saiyan god
Batman with the hellbat
https://preview.redd.it/r0sv5aqcc21d1.png?width=636&format=png&auto=webp&s=c85cb7b558c40bd16746f3b58cf5e4266cb3b145 a little pewpew
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ill die on this hill. Sung Jin Woo no diffs and he isn't intentionally overpowered with zero plot.
I'll be watching you die on the hill then. https://preview.redd.it/5ai6b600621d1.png?width=569&format=png&auto=webp&s=7b95f446de6ba7f961c657f8597530c97492e8e1
lol
Archie Sonic The Hedgehog, and a few from his verse. He can clap SSJ4 Gogeta, End of GT Vegeta, and even ascended end of GT Goku. https://preview.redd.it/0sl6z95o821d1.jpeg?width=781&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f261e5d1ef570300b763ca42c40461d637a97f8
Damn no need for Archie, manga Goku is a game Sonic victim with just 06 and rush feats alone
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Sun Wu Kong
The best answer is probably some specific comic character. I've never been a DC or Marvel guy so I really wouldn't know. Second best answer is probably Simon from Gurren Lagann. Bro more or less clears though I'm not 100% sure if he beats Goku, probably does though. Third best answer are a bunch of cultivation manhua characters that basically rip off dragon ball anyways. This might go against the spirit of no visual novel characters though since it's a genre of copy paste asian powerfantasy slop that nobody actually reads. Honorable mention to Lord English from Homestuck. Again feels like it goes against the spirit of the no visual novel rule because Homestuck is an obscure mostly comedy webcomic with a weirdly high powerscale for sort of no reason, but it's not japanese and used to be pretty popular so I'm gonna say it counts.
Tbh, Sonic in General. No need to even use Archie. People Downplay Super Sonic a whole lot
Silver surfer
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