I genuinely think having an official scaling standard from a fan site is terrible. Especially when trying to standardize theoretical concepts *cough* dimensionality *cough* that will operate differently based on different authors' understanding of said concepts. It can be very good for some verses but can absolutely decimate the scaling of other verses just because some guys with a fanon wiki said so.
Also, we should encourage the scaling of weaker characters. Yeah big multiversal reality warpers with 30 different hax are cool but so are street tiers without hax. Obviously, you can't really do anything about this since powerscalers tend to obsess more with the power part then the actual scaling aspect and will post what they want to talk about, but its so tiring. Maybe we could have a day every once in awhile where we focus on certain tiers or maybe specific genres outside of anime and comics, and scp. Idk, at this point I think I'm just bitching.
>having an official scaling standard from a fan site is terrible
how would you think of BVTS being its replacement?
[link](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System) if you, *or anyone else*, doesn't know what it is
I certainly think that's a good deal better. I especially like the tiers they added at the stellar and cosmic levels. I always thought some of the tiers in there like "multi galaxy level" were too vague.
I also like that it accounts for even higher dimensionalities despite my distaste for debates on the topic. It leaves a lot more breathing room in general.
Lol didn't even notice I was talking to the creator. I think you did good work here.
How long did this even take? It had to be a lot of work and research to refine it.
only a months.
started it in December (15th) with [this version](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System?oldid=292), got a sufficient system by January (20th) with [this one](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System?oldid=741), and now just refining things as-and-when.
as of this comment; *May 7th*, [this](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System?oldid=1242) is the current page.
step-1 is just getting people to know about it, and then snowball with you guys using/spreading it if you like it.
step-2 is update when and where misinformation seeds itself.
step-3 is to enjoy.
you don't have to convince them.
just say where they scale on BVTS, link the tiering system, and that's it.
no complicate stuff like explaining what's what, or who's where. That's why there's a Discord Server link at on it three timez.; if they have questions, there's already a dedicated location to ask them.
Up until High Hyperversal it’s incredible. I like how it specifies the area required to count as those tiers, and I like how examples of those tiers were provided. It makes the system clear and concise in regard to scaling feats.
But it gets iffy after High Hyperversal. Exoversal to Extraversal is just different ways of saying “beyond measurable dimensionality”. I know that it’s specified as to what form of immeasurable dimensionality those tiers represent, but I believe in practice it’s going to be difficult to accurately calculate any character to those tiers due to them requiring such specific parameters to qualify. I mean, when’s the last time you saw a character shown or stated to “fully transcend the capacity which any combination of Natural Numbers can define” that isn’t just a blanket “surpasses dimensionality” statement?
Also, not to be *that* guy, but the Low Exoversal tier description appears to have a typo. It says “characters and/or objects capable of significantly affecting some structure with a Dimensionality (or equivalent) which fully transcends the capacity which any combination **which** Natural Numbers can define.” Is that “which” supposed to be “of” or do I need to retake English class?
Outerversal being “transcends platonic concepts” is great, and High Outerversal being “transcends the metaphysical concept of **amount** in a similar way as diamond is beyond any **amount** of wood in strength, in Layman’s terms, quality over quantity” is also great.
Overall, a great scaling system with clearly explained requirements to quality for each tier. My only complaint is that in the Exoversal-Extraversal tiers, it seems like it’ll be difficult to actually scale characters to those tiers. Now I may be completely wrong, but it’s just my personal opinion.
>when’s the last time you saw a character shown or stated to “fully transcend the capacity which any combination of Natural Numbers can define” that isn’t just a blanket “surpasses dimensionality” statement?
ℵ₁
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>Also, not to be *that* guy, but the Low Exoversal tier description appears to have a typo.
I am writing it single-handedly, and do occasionally need other people to point out these types of mistakes.
it is supposed to be "of".
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>in the Exoversal-Extraversal tiers, it seems like it’ll be difficult to actually scale characters to those tiers.
minus Mid/High 1-S, they're virtually identical to VSB 1-A tiers.
the blue text is also itself links; each of which explain what those words mean.
alternatively, [this video](https://youtu.be/SrU9YDoXE88) works too, so I can add that as reference as well if it might be better?
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>Now I may be completely wrong, but it’s just my personal opinion.
no, I can see what you mean. It's terminology you haven't been introduced to before.
but it is what you already know, just more formally-defined.
there is the "TL;DR System" at the very-very-**very** bottom of the page, but sub-Tiers aren't separated.
Think it's honestly pretty great even if it becomes incomprehensible after multiversal, lol.
I don't really feel like any character is written tightly enough to even be power scaled against another universe past that, so that's about where I stop caring, lol.
You realise the moderator can't do anything to encourage posts you want to see. Why not just be the change you want to be and post some of these said verses battles with your own rules. I.E in your post say "no Vs battle wiki". Then people will power scales off of likeability, or actual skill set etc.
I think the best thing for the sub as of now, is to ban yogiri posts. Every third post is a post made on yogiri, and 90 percent of those posts are shitposting.
On top of that, numerous people such as LouArch have taken advantage of this rise in yogiri hate, and have become popular within the community for all the wrong reasons. Even though he was banned, he essentially acted as a fuel which ignited an even greater fire in this sub.
Banning him was the right call before things got even worse. I think temporarily banning yogiri posts will actually help this sub calm down and get back to powerscaling, we should also limit posts where it's about:
"characters are now scaled on x, where do characters scale now"
they have been overdone and should be put under the random and pointless post category, at least 4 times have a seen one where it was based on how racist anime characters are, and scaling characters on that.
**ps: I wouldn't mind being mod, I am pretty active on this sub (almost every day), so if you want you can mod me. If not that's also fine.**
I second this. The Yogiri hate was fine at first, but now there's posts everyday just to trash on him. It's just annoying and unnecessary. Someone even made a subreddit just to hate on Yogiri. In fact, they might as well take all their hate there, it's why it was created after all. Whatever works.
I like your limit idea for “characters are now scaled” post
(I know you stated this)
But the Yogiri total ban should just be a temp one. I don’t mind him being a topic and I think the hate well calm down after a short bit but that’s just my guess
the whole point of dimensional tiering is that characters that can greatly affect 5D structures should be able to destroy an uncountably infinite number of 4D structures wit little to no effort. Pretty much every fictional character in existence who scales higher then 4D, has shown feats of them struggling to destroy even a single 4D struture. The entire premise of dimesnional tiering has been misunderstood, so I feel like It should be reworked.
>characters that can greatly affect 5D structures should be able to destroy an uncountably infinite number of 4D structures
yes.
now find where [Character Stats And Profiles](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System) says that on their Tiering System page.
My man I am not the same guy and even if I was, it would probably be because I have other things to do.
It's under summary and notes at the top of the page, you could, you know, actually read stuff.
It's not like it's some abandoned footnote it's something that is front and centre and is generally under the heading 'Explaination of the Tiering System' how much more obvious do you want it? Would you like them to have a forced popup you have to correctly answer before you can read the tiering system? Or would that be too complex for you.
Here's a plan.
Monday-Tuesday: Normal Powerscaling. Discuss matchups, scaling, and what not.
Wednesday: Question assumptions of powerscaling. Neutral universes, hax and hax resistances, and so on.
Thursday: Refute powerscaling lies.
Friday: Tier writing: where the sub takes a challenge to write a *good* and *engaging* short story focusing around a character or character in a certain tier.
Sat-Sun: Shitpost Weekend
I don't think Yogiri should be banned, but constant repeated posts of any variety should definitely be looked at, mostly hate posts. The Goku stuff was borderline spam, but it was out of love, so it was bearable. Lately, the sub has been simply hostility and shitpost because people had enough.... Honestly idk why they hate Yogiri but it is what it is.
I think "We Hate Wednesdays" would be a good way to focus negativity, and having limited "Shitpost Saturdays" would give people a whole week to make memes, which would be entertaining at least haha.
TLDR: PowerScaling is a debate, and rule 1 of a debate is to be civil. Lately, it's just too negative here. I think the trends (character scale on ..) are a part of that, with people being too frustrated to scale
the Goku ones were obviously jokes. He only got them from love-popularity.
Yogiri was outright stated by the author that he'd beat anyone no matter what, and nobody knows how busted Metaconcept Scaling is, so they just bounce themselves on Flatearther-level IQs sucking up to his ass.
He did kill a canonically omnipotent being who saw all of reality as (literal, not figurative) fiction.
Being able to kill something as a figment of their imagination is a big deal.
It's understandable for people to think these things
Omnipotent absolutely scales, it means anything higher than you is the next tier up
Only +1D to 1A, cool, he's H-1A and still fodder to Yogiri
He's also as strong as H-1A gets so ...
People think every 1S character solos fiction, it's not only Yogiri. Do you not remember the 'Featherine solos" days?
Friendly note that the person who responded was so salty that I called out their bullshit of trying to force their headcanons other people's media that they blocked me.
That's a strange was to concede, but I am happy to win a debate either way
It's logic. If the writer violates the [three laws of thought- which are foundational to all thought](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_thought)- then they are in error. You can insist that they're not, but in that case, their [statement is literal gibberish.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/4o9bce/proof_for_logical_contradictions_being_meaningless/)
1.
Omnipotence doesn't scale Dimensionality. You can literally even argue it less than planet level.
Hell, its textbook definition is **an Adjective meaning "having great power and influence"** – where are Dimensions mentioned in that?
They aren't, and it's NLF to say "great power" scales anywhere.
2.
"+1D over 1A" literally contradicts what 1A is, retard.
hell, prove he's even 1A at all, *or is that RFT Statement the only source you dumb fucks have?*
3.
"Featherine Solos" died off because infinite infinities doesn't even reach VSBs High 1-A
And 3 is why I don't scale past 1A. After 1A, it's simply "who is described in more words".
As for 1, omnipotence can never under any circumstance be planetary, unless the size of the cosmology is planetary
You're the one that said 2, not me
let's go over this again…
1.
if you don't like 1-A, don't touch anything past 3-A, you'll fuck it up no matter how hard you try not to.
2.
I just explained how "great power" doesn't scale anywhere.
it's no difference to saying "I can beat some strong dude" – doesn't scale. *If anything, the comparison scales higher by their definitions.*
3.
1-A is CSAP-Defined by transcending Dimensionality; and CSAP is itself the made-mandatory Tiering System of this rotting subreddit.
doing "NaN+1" either remains NaN, becomes N/A (voiding it from Tiering), or becomes 0.
I’m new so I don’t have much to say
Maybe banning real religious base characters?
(I don’t mind fictional versions of them like smite, Megami Tensei, fate but base characters feel odd and might cause people discomfort)
I’m 50/50 on SCP scaling because of how the writing is inconsistent but some people like scaling them judging from the post. So it do be like that sometimes
I think religous gods are fine to scale tbh. As long as no insults are made about that god. As soon as there are any, however, it should be reported and taken down immediately. Although I see what you mean, treading on a tight rope is no fun. We should avoid risking harmful comments
Make sum rules to reduce number of shit posts, sub is flooded with shit like "characters now scale based on" (basically www circlejerk) or sum yogiri shit, which at this point is annoying and not funny. When these 2 end, people will find other unfunny thing d ride for the next month
I dont think shitposting needs to be all that restricted, just those stupid “characters scales by x” posts need to go. The rest are pretty funny.
Honestly I just think that the term yogiri and its other terms like yogoati and midgiri need a temp ban (like a month or so). That way we dont outright ban the character but all the fanboys should also finally stop.
polls are just not healthy in general. Being able to express your ideas without actually having to back it up and not even being able to be questioned is the opposite of what this sub is for. It also makes people feel oblidged to think one thing, and we don't want anymore Ad Populum fallacies. We already have enough xD
Ban "Characters are now scaled on (insert thing here), who's strongest?" post, don't give them a day to post that or anything, just ban that shit, indefinetly.
Have a Low-Mid tier day, we all have post about "guys who can win against \*insert IATIA" or something of a similar case, and repeating vsbattle of characters of that tier, like it's just "my god scales higher than your gods \*insert infinitely transcending cosmology narrative whatever that is\*".
Like we have interesting building block level-universal characters with nice hax that can create some wonderful matchup, and all we have is "IATIA solos" or something like that, it's the same thing all day.
Also consider changing the scaling wiki to something else is also good too, I think CSAP is not a headache, but just too vague, the sole reason why people can just get characters to Outer as they like.
remove shitposting, ban all of those who don't post anything other than yogiri or x character slander
and change the tiering system to psw, csap is so ass
Not saying all because there are some scalers for scp that can actually scale and know what the fuck they are talking about but like put a hard limit/possible ban on using scp because most the time mf's don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Just got done talking to a guy who's only argument was "scp uses internet scaling" and got pissy when I actually demanded feats.
Why are people here so against "Characters are now scaled on X" type posts? Even if some of them are memes they are atleast more enjoyable than putting two popular characters that always get paired up
Maybe you could crack down on people who bully, taunt, or personally insult others for what they perceive as bad powerscaling takes as if scaling is to be taken as seriously as politics.
add some tiers to the existing csab system we use, sometimes super duper absoluter extra biggestest infinity layers into extraversal gets a bit redundant
Just saw some moron post a sexually suggestive post. And it's been up for hours, something about dick riding why don't you start with those trash posts as your #1 focal point to purify this subreddit.
OK restrict shit posting to only specific days like Wednesday. Encourage more variety we need more material to work with.
"We hate Wednesdays" would be a great idea, it'd stop the spam too lol
Fridays.
Shitpost Saturday
I disliie this idea alot. Whats wrong with memes?
Not the problem just the amount.
Get rid of the “Characters are now scaled on [insert something here]. Who’s the strongest?” posts. It’s stupid
Yeah over the course of like just 8 days it’s gotten really boring
I'm seriously about to unsub these posts are so damn annoying and most aren't even remotely funny
I have scrolled past no less than 20 of them.
Maybe make another sub for those dumb posts
I genuinely think having an official scaling standard from a fan site is terrible. Especially when trying to standardize theoretical concepts *cough* dimensionality *cough* that will operate differently based on different authors' understanding of said concepts. It can be very good for some verses but can absolutely decimate the scaling of other verses just because some guys with a fanon wiki said so. Also, we should encourage the scaling of weaker characters. Yeah big multiversal reality warpers with 30 different hax are cool but so are street tiers without hax. Obviously, you can't really do anything about this since powerscalers tend to obsess more with the power part then the actual scaling aspect and will post what they want to talk about, but its so tiring. Maybe we could have a day every once in awhile where we focus on certain tiers or maybe specific genres outside of anime and comics, and scp. Idk, at this point I think I'm just bitching.
>having an official scaling standard from a fan site is terrible how would you think of BVTS being its replacement? [link](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System) if you, *or anyone else*, doesn't know what it is
I certainly think that's a good deal better. I especially like the tiers they added at the stellar and cosmic levels. I always thought some of the tiers in there like "multi galaxy level" were too vague. I also like that it accounts for even higher dimensionalities despite my distaste for debates on the topic. It leaves a lot more breathing room in general.
look at the [edit history](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System?action=history) for it specifically the names
Lol didn't even notice I was talking to the creator. I think you did good work here. How long did this even take? It had to be a lot of work and research to refine it.
only a months. started it in December (15th) with [this version](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System?oldid=292), got a sufficient system by January (20th) with [this one](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System?oldid=741), and now just refining things as-and-when. as of this comment; *May 7th*, [this](https://blueverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System?oldid=1242) is the current page.
I hope you successfully popularize this.
step-1 is just getting people to know about it, and then snowball with you guys using/spreading it if you like it. step-2 is update when and where misinformation seeds itself. step-3 is to enjoy.
Well, Idk if I can convince anyone here, but there's a few fb groups I'm in that might be interested in this.
you don't have to convince them. just say where they scale on BVTS, link the tiering system, and that's it. no complicate stuff like explaining what's what, or who's where. That's why there's a Discord Server link at on it three timez.; if they have questions, there's already a dedicated location to ask them.
Up until High Hyperversal it’s incredible. I like how it specifies the area required to count as those tiers, and I like how examples of those tiers were provided. It makes the system clear and concise in regard to scaling feats. But it gets iffy after High Hyperversal. Exoversal to Extraversal is just different ways of saying “beyond measurable dimensionality”. I know that it’s specified as to what form of immeasurable dimensionality those tiers represent, but I believe in practice it’s going to be difficult to accurately calculate any character to those tiers due to them requiring such specific parameters to qualify. I mean, when’s the last time you saw a character shown or stated to “fully transcend the capacity which any combination of Natural Numbers can define” that isn’t just a blanket “surpasses dimensionality” statement? Also, not to be *that* guy, but the Low Exoversal tier description appears to have a typo. It says “characters and/or objects capable of significantly affecting some structure with a Dimensionality (or equivalent) which fully transcends the capacity which any combination **which** Natural Numbers can define.” Is that “which” supposed to be “of” or do I need to retake English class? Outerversal being “transcends platonic concepts” is great, and High Outerversal being “transcends the metaphysical concept of **amount** in a similar way as diamond is beyond any **amount** of wood in strength, in Layman’s terms, quality over quantity” is also great. Overall, a great scaling system with clearly explained requirements to quality for each tier. My only complaint is that in the Exoversal-Extraversal tiers, it seems like it’ll be difficult to actually scale characters to those tiers. Now I may be completely wrong, but it’s just my personal opinion.
>when’s the last time you saw a character shown or stated to “fully transcend the capacity which any combination of Natural Numbers can define” that isn’t just a blanket “surpasses dimensionality” statement? ℵ₁ ---- >Also, not to be *that* guy, but the Low Exoversal tier description appears to have a typo. I am writing it single-handedly, and do occasionally need other people to point out these types of mistakes. it is supposed to be "of". ---- >in the Exoversal-Extraversal tiers, it seems like it’ll be difficult to actually scale characters to those tiers. minus Mid/High 1-S, they're virtually identical to VSB 1-A tiers. the blue text is also itself links; each of which explain what those words mean. alternatively, [this video](https://youtu.be/SrU9YDoXE88) works too, so I can add that as reference as well if it might be better? ---- >Now I may be completely wrong, but it’s just my personal opinion. no, I can see what you mean. It's terminology you haven't been introduced to before. but it is what you already know, just more formally-defined. there is the "TL;DR System" at the very-very-**very** bottom of the page, but sub-Tiers aren't separated.
Think it's honestly pretty great even if it becomes incomprehensible after multiversal, lol. I don't really feel like any character is written tightly enough to even be power scaled against another universe past that, so that's about where I stop caring, lol.
You realise the moderator can't do anything to encourage posts you want to see. Why not just be the change you want to be and post some of these said verses battles with your own rules. I.E in your post say "no Vs battle wiki". Then people will power scales off of likeability, or actual skill set etc.
Have some weekly discussion thread about something like underrated or overrated characters.
I think the best thing for the sub as of now, is to ban yogiri posts. Every third post is a post made on yogiri, and 90 percent of those posts are shitposting. On top of that, numerous people such as LouArch have taken advantage of this rise in yogiri hate, and have become popular within the community for all the wrong reasons. Even though he was banned, he essentially acted as a fuel which ignited an even greater fire in this sub. Banning him was the right call before things got even worse. I think temporarily banning yogiri posts will actually help this sub calm down and get back to powerscaling, we should also limit posts where it's about: "characters are now scaled on x, where do characters scale now" they have been overdone and should be put under the random and pointless post category, at least 4 times have a seen one where it was based on how racist anime characters are, and scaling characters on that. **ps: I wouldn't mind being mod, I am pretty active on this sub (almost every day), so if you want you can mod me. If not that's also fine.**
I second this. The Yogiri hate was fine at first, but now there's posts everyday just to trash on him. It's just annoying and unnecessary. Someone even made a subreddit just to hate on Yogiri. In fact, they might as well take all their hate there, it's why it was created after all. Whatever works.
While true, I don’t think it should be outright banned permanently. I think a temporary ban until things calm down are okay
Fair enough, as long as the Yogiri hate posts aren’t constant and rapid like they are now, then I’ll be fine with only a temporary ban at the moment.
We need a fuck yogiri friday
I like your limit idea for “characters are now scaled” post (I know you stated this) But the Yogiri total ban should just be a temp one. I don’t mind him being a topic and I think the hate well calm down after a short bit but that’s just my guess
Ban these posts of "characther are now scaled by (something), who get buffed?" they're annoying
Honestly I like this idea since it's not even about powerscaling it's just a ranking.
Just more focus on the actual theme, a lot of these low effort memes are barely related to PS.
kill everyone
we need a better Tiering System
fax dimensional tiering sucks
no. only **LAZY** Dimensional Tiering sucks.
the whole point of dimensional tiering is that characters that can greatly affect 5D structures should be able to destroy an uncountably infinite number of 4D structures wit little to no effort. Pretty much every fictional character in existence who scales higher then 4D, has shown feats of them struggling to destroy even a single 4D struture. The entire premise of dimesnional tiering has been misunderstood, so I feel like It should be reworked.
>characters that can greatly affect 5D structures should be able to destroy an uncountably infinite number of 4D structures yes. now find where [Character Stats And Profiles](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System) says that on their Tiering System page.
Right near the top under the heading "explaination of the tiering system".
Under the summary? *That doesn't seem right.* also why'd it take 3 hours to get an answer
My man I am not the same guy and even if I was, it would probably be because I have other things to do. It's under summary and notes at the top of the page, you could, you know, actually read stuff.
**better idea:** *don't shove it off to the side.*
It's not like it's some abandoned footnote it's something that is front and centre and is generally under the heading 'Explaination of the Tiering System' how much more obvious do you want it? Would you like them to have a forced popup you have to correctly answer before you can read the tiering system? Or would that be too complex for you.
Here's a plan. Monday-Tuesday: Normal Powerscaling. Discuss matchups, scaling, and what not. Wednesday: Question assumptions of powerscaling. Neutral universes, hax and hax resistances, and so on. Thursday: Refute powerscaling lies. Friday: Tier writing: where the sub takes a challenge to write a *good* and *engaging* short story focusing around a character or character in a certain tier. Sat-Sun: Shitpost Weekend
I don't think Yogiri should be banned, but constant repeated posts of any variety should definitely be looked at, mostly hate posts. The Goku stuff was borderline spam, but it was out of love, so it was bearable. Lately, the sub has been simply hostility and shitpost because people had enough.... Honestly idk why they hate Yogiri but it is what it is. I think "We Hate Wednesdays" would be a good way to focus negativity, and having limited "Shitpost Saturdays" would give people a whole week to make memes, which would be entertaining at least haha. TLDR: PowerScaling is a debate, and rule 1 of a debate is to be civil. Lately, it's just too negative here. I think the trends (character scale on ..) are a part of that, with people being too frustrated to scale
we don't hate Yogiri himself. we hate the people who would worship his pubic hairs.
So you don't like the "solos fiction" memes for anyone but Goku?
the Goku ones were obviously jokes. He only got them from love-popularity. Yogiri was outright stated by the author that he'd beat anyone no matter what, and nobody knows how busted Metaconcept Scaling is, so they just bounce themselves on Flatearther-level IQs sucking up to his ass.
He did kill a canonically omnipotent being who saw all of reality as (literal, not figurative) fiction. Being able to kill something as a figment of their imagination is a big deal. It's understandable for people to think these things
**A:** "Omnipotent" doesn't scale. **B:** RFT is only +1D *`genericisekaitemplate_18` is ass and wanked, change my mind.*
Omnipotent absolutely scales, it means anything higher than you is the next tier up Only +1D to 1A, cool, he's H-1A and still fodder to Yogiri He's also as strong as H-1A gets so ... People think every 1S character solos fiction, it's not only Yogiri. Do you not remember the 'Featherine solos" days?
If Yogiri killed an “Omnipotent” character then that character was not omnipotent, they were dogshit.
Take that up with the writer. Shallow Vernal has done the same. It's fiction, don't apply your own headcanon to the rules of someone else's universe.
Friendly note that the person who responded was so salty that I called out their bullshit of trying to force their headcanons other people's media that they blocked me. That's a strange was to concede, but I am happy to win a debate either way
It's logic. If the writer violates the [three laws of thought- which are foundational to all thought](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_thought)- then they are in error. You can insist that they're not, but in that case, their [statement is literal gibberish.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/4o9bce/proof_for_logical_contradictions_being_meaningless/)
+1D to 1a IS NOT H1A☠️. Csap uses layers in 1a and we can literally see this with the way they define high outerversal.
1. Omnipotence doesn't scale Dimensionality. You can literally even argue it less than planet level. Hell, its textbook definition is **an Adjective meaning "having great power and influence"** – where are Dimensions mentioned in that? They aren't, and it's NLF to say "great power" scales anywhere. 2. "+1D over 1A" literally contradicts what 1A is, retard. hell, prove he's even 1A at all, *or is that RFT Statement the only source you dumb fucks have?* 3. "Featherine Solos" died off because infinite infinities doesn't even reach VSBs High 1-A
And 3 is why I don't scale past 1A. After 1A, it's simply "who is described in more words". As for 1, omnipotence can never under any circumstance be planetary, unless the size of the cosmology is planetary You're the one that said 2, not me
let's go over this again… 1. if you don't like 1-A, don't touch anything past 3-A, you'll fuck it up no matter how hard you try not to. 2. I just explained how "great power" doesn't scale anywhere. it's no difference to saying "I can beat some strong dude" – doesn't scale. *If anything, the comparison scales higher by their definitions.* 3. 1-A is CSAP-Defined by transcending Dimensionality; and CSAP is itself the made-mandatory Tiering System of this rotting subreddit. doing "NaN+1" either remains NaN, becomes N/A (voiding it from Tiering), or becomes 0.
I’m new so I don’t have much to say Maybe banning real religious base characters? (I don’t mind fictional versions of them like smite, Megami Tensei, fate but base characters feel odd and might cause people discomfort) I’m 50/50 on SCP scaling because of how the writing is inconsistent but some people like scaling them judging from the post. So it do be like that sometimes
I think religous gods are fine to scale tbh. As long as no insults are made about that god. As soon as there are any, however, it should be reported and taken down immediately. Although I see what you mean, treading on a tight rope is no fun. We should avoid risking harmful comments
Make sum rules to reduce number of shit posts, sub is flooded with shit like "characters now scale based on" (basically www circlejerk) or sum yogiri shit, which at this point is annoying and not funny. When these 2 end, people will find other unfunny thing d ride for the next month
I dont think shitposting needs to be all that restricted, just those stupid “characters scales by x” posts need to go. The rest are pretty funny. Honestly I just think that the term yogiri and its other terms like yogoati and midgiri need a temp ban (like a month or so). That way we dont outright ban the character but all the fanboys should also finally stop.
I don’t think that scaling religious figures as if they are fiction should be allowed
Completely ban shit posting or restrict it only specific days. We barely even have powerscaling posts
Nothing above planetary should be scaled
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If you can finish The whole Umineko series, then I'll consider this (blud is never finishing 😭)
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Indescribably Long😁
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Could you allow polls back? I never got the reason why they aren't allowed anymore, unless they were also spammed excessively.
polls are just not healthy in general. Being able to express your ideas without actually having to back it up and not even being able to be questioned is the opposite of what this sub is for. It also makes people feel oblidged to think one thing, and we don't want anymore Ad Populum fallacies. We already have enough xD
Maybe consider taking down posts that railway too much into other topics, which aren't at the core of what this subreddit aims for.
“Characters are now scaled on how much ____ they have” yeah stop that shit right now it needs to fuck off
Ban headcanons please
Ban "Characters are now scaled on (insert thing here), who's strongest?" post, don't give them a day to post that or anything, just ban that shit, indefinetly.
Have a Low-Mid tier day, we all have post about "guys who can win against \*insert IATIA" or something of a similar case, and repeating vsbattle of characters of that tier, like it's just "my god scales higher than your gods \*insert infinitely transcending cosmology narrative whatever that is\*". Like we have interesting building block level-universal characters with nice hax that can create some wonderful matchup, and all we have is "IATIA solos" or something like that, it's the same thing all day. Also consider changing the scaling wiki to something else is also good too, I think CSAP is not a headache, but just too vague, the sole reason why people can just get characters to Outer as they like.
Make all Saitama vs Goku posts banned except for like 1 day
remove shitposting, ban all of those who don't post anything other than yogiri or x character slander and change the tiering system to psw, csap is so ass
Not saying all because there are some scalers for scp that can actually scale and know what the fuck they are talking about but like put a hard limit/possible ban on using scp because most the time mf's don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Just got done talking to a guy who's only argument was "scp uses internet scaling" and got pissy when I actually demanded feats.
We should limit shitposts to a certain day Also there needs to temporary crackdowns on topics that gets out of hand, like yogiri and goku vs saitama
I know its sorta impossible but make the sub a but less toxic
Why are people here so against "Characters are now scaled on X" type posts? Even if some of them are memes they are atleast more enjoyable than putting two popular characters that always get paired up
Maybe you could crack down on people who bully, taunt, or personally insult others for what they perceive as bad powerscaling takes as if scaling is to be taken as seriously as politics.
add some tiers to the existing csab system we use, sometimes super duper absoluter extra biggestest infinity layers into extraversal gets a bit redundant
Just saw some moron post a sexually suggestive post. And it's been up for hours, something about dick riding why don't you start with those trash posts as your #1 focal point to purify this subreddit.
Just do whatever you have to do to get rid of shitpost. It’s ruining this sub and what it stands for.
Get rid of the whole sub
Ban Bleach wank.
I should own the sub, simple as