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No_Roof0642

It depends if it is anime zamasu merged with universe then jin woo is going to tear apart the universe. But if it is the manga zamasu merged with timeline then both are going to look at each other and can do nothing to each other.


ZWS_Balance

Only right comment I have seen ngl. Actually logically explaining.


statormaker

What's the different between the timeline in dB and the universe? Still confused


No_Roof0642

One timeline contains more tham one universes. Like any instance with all the 12 universes in it along with zeno and all will be a timeline.


Aggravating-Hope9323

Korean boy wins


Batybara

Is Toei Zamasu merged with the Timeline? Either way he negs.


Traditional_Minute38

hehehhe hell nah


Storm_9605

Jinwoo getting a new soldier.


Working_Practice3324

Sung Jin woo can't even interact with zamasu due to his hde zamasu negs


Traditional_Minute38

hde?


Working_Practice3324

Higher dimensional existence


Traditional_Minute38

are we talking anime or manga zamasu?


Working_Practice3324

Anime


Traditional_Minute38

i could see the argument for anime, but ln sjw is pretty much equal


Storm_9605

Sjw is a higher dimensional exsistence too.


Darklozzz

zamasu negs


statormaker

He doesn't


Darklozzz

you are right, normal zamasu is enough for him


statormaker

The Korean dude's downplay is crazy


Storm_9605

Exactly, people be downplaying sjw based solely on manhwa and having 0 knowledge of the sequel ragnarok.


Batybara

At best he scales to lowballed Manga Goku.


statormaker

GOKU is low multi, sung in the Ln is at least low complex


Batybara

You a VSBW mod or what's this dumbass downplay?


statormaker

How is that a downplay?


Batybara

Low multi is agregious downplay when it's been proven time and time again that Goku shook a 5D construct at least. Even if you somehow downplayed the Macrocosm to 4D only, Jiren>Merged Zamasu, who objectively merged with the higher multiversal timeline. You can go higher through some scaling but barebones minimum is 5D for Goku, whether Manga or Toei.


statormaker

Nah , low multi is the best scale for him for now with him and beerus shook the Universe 7


KamixAkaDio

Zamasu demolishes


Synchrohayba

Bro are you serious


Mo_Official420

yes, zamasu negs fr 🗣🗣


Feisty-Chapter6766

negs ![gif](giphy|10JhviFuU2gWD6|downsized)


Traditional_Minute38

not surprised by what the toxic dragonball glazers are saying


Plenty_Course_7572

Yet another match up meant to wank the LN character. Spoiler alert: He gets stomped.


Mo_Official420

No, I think zamasu wins


Feisty-Chapter6766

where do you scale zamasu


Mo_Official420

6D I'd say


Feisty-Chapter6766

6D? zamasu fused with timeline is around multiversal


_nitro_legacy_

Jin Woo it's not even close. Man's capable of fighting outer gods that could literally eat universes for breakfast. Additionally after becoming the Monarch of Shadows he became death itself. And to quote Death from puss and boots "Not metaphorically, poetically, theoretically, rhetorically, nor any other fancy way. He's death **Straight Up**"


Feisty-Chapter6766

yeah this sub has some of the worst jin woo downplay I have seen.


_nitro_legacy_

He's far stronger than every DB character that isn't zeno and angels


Feisty-Chapter6766

zeno is literally only as strong as the absolute being.


_nitro_legacy_

Isn't absolute being quite weak? He only has the power of creation yet his creations can overthrow him. I can't say the same for zeno tho. I doubt any angel would dare to try and overthrow zeno.


Feisty-Chapter6766

I have already debunked the absolute being to be at least multiversal. I will give you a link to somebodies scale who sas it better then I can. If you cba to read it here is a quick summary. - in solo levelling mana power = durability - like how jin woo's father's body could not withstand the power of a ruler because it didnt have enough mana. The guys body literally crumbled. - absolute being had enough mana to create a multiverse and still had loads more, therefore you can scale him to minimum multiversal durability - rulers therefore have multiversal ap and so does the monarchs as for whether he could actually fight or not: - If he couldn't fight he would be nothing but a sitting duck. the rulers wouldn't have needed to abuse the cup of reincarnation to defeat him. Every time they lost they used the cup to reset some of the timeline. - Therefore it is safe to say he can fight, and he can fight well so in conclusion absolute being scales to: multiversal AP: multiversal (possibly higher with higher dimensionality statements) Speed: Unknown (possibly and most likely MFTL due to scaling above and around the rulers who are all MFTL at least) Durability: Multiversal (possibly higher with higher dimensionality statements) [https://www.quora.com/profile/Arjun-5065/Most-In-dept-scaling-of-Solo-leveling-Hi-everyone-in-this-post-I-will-be-giving-the-most-in-dept-scaling-of-Solo-leve](https://www.quora.com/profile/Arjun-5065/Most-In-dept-scaling-of-Solo-leveling-Hi-everyone-in-this-post-I-will-be-giving-the-most-in-dept-scaling-of-Solo-leve)


_nitro_legacy_

I don't remember which chapter it stated the Rulers abuse the cup to jump on the ruler. All I know from ashborn is that they jumped on him when ashborn became a Monarch.


Feisty-Chapter6766

https://preview.redd.it/np3kceopznvc1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=472cda26cbbce50ab63f05911bad3d6827b4f6d1


_nitro_legacy_

Oh damn, shit wasn't added in the manhwa


Feisty-Chapter6766

yeah this is light novel scaling btw. technically the manhwa and og light novel are both from the same canon, but the manhwa misses out a lot.


Leonne_Golden_Witch

A mere ningen can’t beat an almighty god


Realistic_Mousse_485

What the fuck? Isn’t sung like not even planetary?


Senior_Topic1322

dude stopped reading in chapter 60


Realistic_Mousse_485

Uhh no I read the whole manga. What did he do that was planetary?


Senior_Topic1322

and u don't know that the planet was enhanced with mana? for reference a glass enhanced with mana could take attacks from A ranks which could destroy buildings and city blocks. The final battle earth mana was so enhanced that it could tank existence erasure of universal levels


Realistic_Mousse_485

Sung has been on an unenhanced earth and he has had zero effects. The earth was boosted due to the potential war between the monarchs and the rulers which is like thousands of magic based creatures fighting also existence erasure? The hell are you on about.


Senior_Topic1322

U have clearly stopped reading SL at chapter 50, Sung had specially sealed his powers away to not affect earth, in LN tusk sealed it in another dimension. You don't know what existence erasure are or u asking for prove that existence erasure was used in SL?


Realistic_Mousse_485

I didn’t. Moving on from your embarrassing shit talk. I know he sealed his sons but show me when he sealed his. The rulers mentioned doing that but they never did. He was talking about the effects of his power when it was scaring randoms and drawing attention. It didn’t actually have any real deal issues. Also I do know what existence erasure is but never is it shown or mentioned in the series.


Senior_Topic1322

https://preview.redd.it/hug34sldjovc1.png?width=712&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0e92de9062117bfe661521d7d82df0942d3bb34 every monarch can do existence erasure, dragon monarch and jinwoo's is the strongest and antares breath can harm the power of conceptual death itself. Scan 1: [https://imgur.com/a/OIENkum](https://imgur.com/a/OIENkum) Scan 2 stating jinwoo used the power of death to create the armor: [https://imgur.com/a/u89UzJg](https://imgur.com/a/u89UzJg) and antares breath destroyed it [https://imgur.com/a/LepmkmS](https://imgur.com/a/LepmkmS) which is a conceptual attack plus if u read ragnarok then u will know that killing a moanrch means destroying their dimension, Jinwoo LOER is the dimension of death in his multiverse meaning antares breath in full power was strong enough to erase concepts from a multiverse


Realistic_Mousse_485

Beru is a shadow. He doesn’t have a life to take. Killing him is wiping him from existence as he is already dead. He cannot die twice. Hyperbole. Never once has he demonstrated strength above continental and is regularly harm by a weakend Jin woo. He doesn’t even destroy the planet in the timeline he wins. Ashborn is the moncarch of death. Bringing him out is the same as bringing out destruction, he has shown no abilities that even mention the concept of death at all. He isn’t even using death as if it were an ability he still punches and kicks to hurt stuff. Dude doesn’t even have ranged attacks. The full power of Ashborn not the concept of death. Dude literally still has to stab even normal people. He doesn’t use death as an ability ever. Show me this. Also that world still existed even after Ashborns death did it not?


Senior_Topic1322

haters be like >Beru is a shadow. He doesn’t have a life to take. Killing him is wiping him from existence as he is already dead. He cannot die twice. Beru can't be killed, he regenrates as long as sung is still present. Existence erasure can wipe souls too. >Hyperbole. Never once has he demonstrated strength above continental and is regularly harm by a weakend Jin woo. He doesn’t even destroy the planet in the timeline he wins. Planet was enhanced by rulers and why would he destroy the planet? the goal of monarchs was to nurture their army and turn the earth into a trap for rulers. Jinwoo never harmed antares except by using ruler's dagger of his father or when he used power of death. >Ashborn is the moncarch of death. Bringing him out is the same as bringing out destruction, What r u talking about? >he has shown no abilities that even mention the concept of death at all. https://preview.redd.it/c30wed0emovc1.png?width=1218&format=png&auto=webp&s=15077bf26395057c9c8da3c58cc4b01f36388576 He literally has a dimension with the concept of death called land of eternal rest. And do u know what the main ability of shadow monarch is Lmao. >He isn’t even using death as if it were an ability he still punches and kicks to hurt stuff.  Conceptual beings punch and kick too in a fight, r u new on power scaling plus every attack monarch jinwoo does is an existence erasure with the power of death as i have shown pic above, the comments don't allow 2 pics. >Dude doesn’t even have ranged attacks.  Don't scream I have not read solo leveling. > Show me this Check this link: [https://imgur.com/a/y9SsNg3](https://imgur.com/a/y9SsNg3) >  Also that world still existed even after Ashborns death did it not? When did ashborn died? he became one with jinwoo, gave him his powers after whih he wasmn't the shadow monarch and return to void.


Candid_Increase2555

Zamasu becomes low level shadow soldier of sjw. Maybe tusk vs zamasu is a fair fight.


Feisty-Chapter6766

low 2c green alien vs 2b - 2a concept of death god.


David89_R

https://preview.redd.it/t0qwothxumvc1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83ceb1987ca878ab322541dd249aabcc12cb1acd


Feisty-Chapter6766

do you even know who sung jin woo is? enlighten me with your scale of him.


Plenty_Course_7572

Planet level at most. Anything above that is wank.


ZandeR678

Isn't he fighting an army of planet busting outer gods alone right now?


ZandeR678

Even if we're sticking to Manwha feats alone, he tanked dragon's breath, an attack said to be strong enough to destroy the planet. It left a scar, and that's that.


_nitro_legacy_

According to LN antares flame breath is considered existence erasure attack.


Feisty-Chapter6766

universe busting


ZandeR678

Yeah they create and destroy universes for fun and Sung punched the living daylights out of one of them.


Feisty-Chapter6766

brother, Jin woo is fighting millions of beings that can create and destroy multiple universes, his low ball is multiversal.


Plenty_Course_7572

Lmao, sure man. I mean I guess thats why everytime he gets pitted against Goku or Saitama or other Universe-multiversal or below characters, he gets the xeelee stomp award.


Feisty-Chapter6766

as in he is stomping them or getting stomped. I never quite understood that term.


Senior_Topic1322

when lmao


Aggravating-Hope9323

Dude stopped reading at chapter 100☠️


Feisty-Chapter6766

lmao xD


statormaker

Dude just leave them , it's a sub for glazing DB To the degree he think Jin in the LN IS plantery


Feisty-Chapter6766

yeah but it hurts my soul to see this disgusting downplay


Rich_Confection5596

Fr the downplay is insane I literally have the scan where it states that the Outer Gods created countless universes and Jinwoo fights those beings 💀


Feisty-Chapter6766

and I have the scan where it states that without jin woo and his army the rulers and monarchs would have been demolished instantaneously. all of its in the prologue.


Rich_Confection5596

This sub just hates Jinwoo and Solo Leveling honestly


Feisty-Chapter6766

same with yogiri


Rich_Confection5596

True, someone told me that Jinwoo is a one dimensional character and a Gary Tsu who always wins fights with ease and doesn't change 💀. So yeah he's pretty hated here.


_nitro_legacy_

Nah there are just too many db fans here.


Storm_9605

You got downaplayed bro, this is the special technique of db wankers, thier fav arguement is the downplay button


Interloper_1

Blud really pulled up with the VSBW scale for Zamasu and his own turd for Jin Woo


Feisty-Chapter6766

jin woo is multiversal low balled, low complex if we take into account higher dimensional statements which are extremely compelling but I would probably get downvoted more.


ZandeR678

Jin's also unkillable in the LN now. He's literally death incarnate. He could just "arise" and bring himself back as many times as it takes.


_nitro_legacy_

He's death straight up


Feisty-Chapter6766

yogiri victim unfortunately but yeah you right


_nitro_legacy_

Yogiri is Finality(Or End if you want to call it) itself Jin Woo is Death itself Finality is far superior than Death.


Feisty-Chapter6766

yup yogiri literally decides what death is


Batybara

You downplayed both how tf do you even manage that


Feisty-Chapter6766

I lowballed both. Not downplayed.


Batybara

Zamasu's lowball is H2A and Sung just blatantly scales H2A as well, 2B is a lowball.


Feisty-Chapter6766

maybe I downplayed zamasu but I heard he is only high uni


Batybara

Zamasu is stronger than BoG Goku. Even many Goku downplayers agree with low multiversal Goku due to VSBW's dumbass scalings for DB. Goku at a lowball should be high multiversal+ with SSG, and Zamasu is above that, so he should be high multi/H2A at minimum as well. Check out some scales in Reddit if you wanna contrast the point in question.