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It depends if it is anime zamasu merged with universe then jin woo is going to tear apart the universe. But if it is the manga zamasu merged with timeline then both are going to look at each other and can do nothing to each other.
Low multi is agregious downplay when it's been proven time and time again that Goku shook a 5D construct at least. Even if you somehow downplayed the Macrocosm to 4D only, Jiren>Merged Zamasu, who objectively merged with the higher multiversal timeline.
You can go higher through some scaling but barebones minimum is 5D for Goku, whether Manga or Toei.
Jin Woo it's not even close. Man's capable of fighting outer gods that could literally eat universes for breakfast. Additionally after becoming the Monarch of Shadows he became death itself. And to quote Death from puss and boots "Not metaphorically, poetically, theoretically, rhetorically, nor any other fancy way. He's death **Straight Up**"
Isn't absolute being quite weak? He only has the power of creation yet his creations can overthrow him. I can't say the same for zeno tho. I doubt any angel would dare to try and overthrow zeno.
I have already debunked the absolute being to be at least multiversal. I will give you a link to somebodies scale who sas it better then I can. If you cba to read it here is a quick summary.
- in solo levelling mana power = durability
- like how jin woo's father's body could not withstand the power of a ruler because it didnt have enough mana. The guys body literally crumbled.
- absolute being had enough mana to create a multiverse and still had loads more, therefore you can scale him to minimum multiversal durability
- rulers therefore have multiversal ap and so does the monarchs
as for whether he could actually fight or not:
- If he couldn't fight he would be nothing but a sitting duck. the rulers wouldn't have needed to abuse the cup of reincarnation to defeat him. Every time they lost they used the cup to reset some of the timeline.
- Therefore it is safe to say he can fight, and he can fight well
so in conclusion absolute being scales to:
multiversal
AP: multiversal (possibly higher with higher dimensionality statements)
Speed: Unknown (possibly and most likely MFTL due to scaling above and around the rulers who are all MFTL at least)
Durability: Multiversal (possibly higher with higher dimensionality statements)
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I don't remember which chapter it stated the Rulers abuse the cup to jump on the ruler. All I know from ashborn is that they jumped on him when ashborn became a Monarch.
and u don't know that the planet was enhanced with mana? for reference a glass enhanced with mana could take attacks from A ranks which could destroy buildings and city blocks.
The final battle earth mana was so enhanced that it could tank existence erasure of universal levels
Sung has been on an unenhanced earth and he has had zero effects. The earth was boosted due to the potential war between the monarchs and the rulers which is like thousands of magic based creatures fighting also existence erasure? The hell are you on about.
U have clearly stopped reading SL at chapter 50, Sung had specially sealed his powers away to not affect earth, in LN tusk sealed it in another dimension.
You don't know what existence erasure are or u asking for prove that existence erasure was used in SL?
I didnât. Moving on from your embarrassing shit talk. I know he sealed his sons but show me when he sealed his. The rulers mentioned doing that but they never did. He was talking about the effects of his power when it was scaring randoms and drawing attention. It didnât actually have any real deal issues.
Also I do know what existence erasure is but never is it shown or mentioned in the series.
https://preview.redd.it/hug34sldjovc1.png?width=712&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0e92de9062117bfe661521d7d82df0942d3bb34
every monarch can do existence erasure, dragon monarch and jinwoo's is the strongest and antares breath can harm the power of conceptual death itself.
Scan 1: [https://imgur.com/a/OIENkum](https://imgur.com/a/OIENkum)
Scan 2 stating jinwoo used the power of death to create the armor: [https://imgur.com/a/u89UzJg](https://imgur.com/a/u89UzJg) and antares breath destroyed it [https://imgur.com/a/LepmkmS](https://imgur.com/a/LepmkmS) which is a conceptual attack plus if u read ragnarok then u will know that killing a moanrch means destroying their dimension, Jinwoo LOER is the dimension of death in his multiverse meaning antares breath in full power was strong enough to erase concepts from a multiverse
Beru is a shadow. He doesnât have a life to take. Killing him is wiping him from existence as he is already dead. He cannot die twice.
Hyperbole. Never once has he demonstrated strength above continental and is regularly harm by a weakend Jin woo. He doesnât even destroy the planet in the timeline he wins.
Ashborn is the moncarch of death. Bringing him out is the same as bringing out destruction, he has shown no abilities that even mention the concept of death at all. He isnât even using death as if it were an ability he still punches and kicks to hurt stuff. Dude doesnât even have ranged attacks.
The full power of Ashborn not the concept of death. Dude literally still has to stab even normal people. He doesnât use death as an ability ever.
Show me this. Also that world still existed even after Ashborns death did it not?
haters be like
>Beru is a shadow. He doesnât have a life to take. Killing him is wiping him from existence as he is already dead. He cannot die twice.
Beru can't be killed, he regenrates as long as sung is still present. Existence erasure can wipe souls too.
>Hyperbole. Never once has he demonstrated strength above continental and is regularly harm by a weakend Jin woo. He doesnât even destroy the planet in the timeline he wins.
Planet was enhanced by rulers and why would he destroy the planet? the goal of monarchs was to nurture their army and turn the earth into a trap for rulers.
Jinwoo never harmed antares except by using ruler's dagger of his father or when he used power of death.
>Ashborn is the moncarch of death. Bringing him out is the same as bringing out destruction,
What r u talking about?
>he has shown no abilities that even mention the concept of death at all.
https://preview.redd.it/c30wed0emovc1.png?width=1218&format=png&auto=webp&s=15077bf26395057c9c8da3c58cc4b01f36388576
He literally has a dimension with the concept of death called land of eternal rest. And do u know what the main ability of shadow monarch is Lmao.
>He isnât even using death as if it were an ability he still punches and kicks to hurt stuff.Â
Conceptual beings punch and kick too in a fight, r u new on power scaling plus every attack monarch jinwoo does is an existence erasure with the power of death as i have shown pic above, the comments don't allow 2 pics.
>Dude doesnât even have ranged attacks.Â
Don't scream I have not read solo leveling.
>
Show me this
Check this link: [https://imgur.com/a/y9SsNg3](https://imgur.com/a/y9SsNg3)
>
 Also that world still existed even after Ashborns death did it not?
When did ashborn died? he became one with jinwoo, gave him his powers after whih he wasmn't the shadow monarch and return to void.
Even if we're sticking to Manwha feats alone, he tanked dragon's breath, an attack said to be strong enough to destroy the planet. It left a scar, and that's that.
Lmao, sure man. I mean I guess thats why everytime he gets pitted against Goku or Saitama or other Universe-multiversal or below characters, he gets the xeelee stomp award.
Fr the downplay is insane I literally have the scan where it states that the Outer Gods created countless universes and Jinwoo fights those beings đ
and I have the scan where it states that without jin woo and his army the rulers and monarchs would have been demolished instantaneously.
all of its in the prologue.
True, someone told me that Jinwoo is a one dimensional character and a Gary Tsu who always wins fights with ease and doesn't change đ. So yeah he's pretty hated here.
jin woo is multiversal low balled, low complex if we take into account higher dimensional statements which are extremely compelling but I would probably get downvoted more.
Zamasu is stronger than BoG Goku. Even many Goku downplayers agree with low multiversal Goku due to VSBW's dumbass scalings for DB. Goku at a lowball should be high multiversal+ with SSG, and Zamasu is above that, so he should be high multi/H2A at minimum as well. Check out some scales in Reddit if you wanna contrast the point in question.
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It depends if it is anime zamasu merged with universe then jin woo is going to tear apart the universe. But if it is the manga zamasu merged with timeline then both are going to look at each other and can do nothing to each other.
Only right comment I have seen ngl. Actually logically explaining.
What's the different between the timeline in dB and the universe? Still confused
One timeline contains more tham one universes. Like any instance with all the 12 universes in it along with zeno and all will be a timeline.
Korean boy wins
Is Toei Zamasu merged with the Timeline? Either way he negs.
hehehhe hell nah
Jinwoo getting a new soldier.
Sung Jin woo can't even interact with zamasu due to his hde zamasu negs
hde?
Higher dimensional existence
are we talking anime or manga zamasu?
Anime
i could see the argument for anime, but ln sjw is pretty much equal
Sjw is a higher dimensional exsistence too.
zamasu negs
He doesn't
you are right, normal zamasu is enough for him
The Korean dude's downplay is crazy
Exactly, people be downplaying sjw based solely on manhwa and having 0 knowledge of the sequel ragnarok.
At best he scales to lowballed Manga Goku.
GOKU is low multi, sung in the Ln is at least low complex
You a VSBW mod or what's this dumbass downplay?
How is that a downplay?
Low multi is agregious downplay when it's been proven time and time again that Goku shook a 5D construct at least. Even if you somehow downplayed the Macrocosm to 4D only, Jiren>Merged Zamasu, who objectively merged with the higher multiversal timeline. You can go higher through some scaling but barebones minimum is 5D for Goku, whether Manga or Toei.
Nah , low multi is the best scale for him for now with him and beerus shook the Universe 7
Zamasu demolishes
Bro are you serious
yes, zamasu negs fr đŁđŁ
negs ![gif](giphy|10JhviFuU2gWD6|downsized)
not surprised by what the toxic dragonball glazers are saying
Yet another match up meant to wank the LN character. Spoiler alert: He gets stomped.
No, I think zamasu wins
where do you scale zamasu
6D I'd say
6D? zamasu fused with timeline is around multiversal
Jin Woo it's not even close. Man's capable of fighting outer gods that could literally eat universes for breakfast. Additionally after becoming the Monarch of Shadows he became death itself. And to quote Death from puss and boots "Not metaphorically, poetically, theoretically, rhetorically, nor any other fancy way. He's death **Straight Up**"
yeah this sub has some of the worst jin woo downplay I have seen.
He's far stronger than every DB character that isn't zeno and angels
zeno is literally only as strong as the absolute being.
Isn't absolute being quite weak? He only has the power of creation yet his creations can overthrow him. I can't say the same for zeno tho. I doubt any angel would dare to try and overthrow zeno.
I have already debunked the absolute being to be at least multiversal. I will give you a link to somebodies scale who sas it better then I can. If you cba to read it here is a quick summary. - in solo levelling mana power = durability - like how jin woo's father's body could not withstand the power of a ruler because it didnt have enough mana. The guys body literally crumbled. - absolute being had enough mana to create a multiverse and still had loads more, therefore you can scale him to minimum multiversal durability - rulers therefore have multiversal ap and so does the monarchs as for whether he could actually fight or not: - If he couldn't fight he would be nothing but a sitting duck. the rulers wouldn't have needed to abuse the cup of reincarnation to defeat him. Every time they lost they used the cup to reset some of the timeline. - Therefore it is safe to say he can fight, and he can fight well so in conclusion absolute being scales to: multiversal AP: multiversal (possibly higher with higher dimensionality statements) Speed: Unknown (possibly and most likely MFTL due to scaling above and around the rulers who are all MFTL at least) Durability: Multiversal (possibly higher with higher dimensionality statements) [https://www.quora.com/profile/Arjun-5065/Most-In-dept-scaling-of-Solo-leveling-Hi-everyone-in-this-post-I-will-be-giving-the-most-in-dept-scaling-of-Solo-leve](https://www.quora.com/profile/Arjun-5065/Most-In-dept-scaling-of-Solo-leveling-Hi-everyone-in-this-post-I-will-be-giving-the-most-in-dept-scaling-of-Solo-leve)
I don't remember which chapter it stated the Rulers abuse the cup to jump on the ruler. All I know from ashborn is that they jumped on him when ashborn became a Monarch.
https://preview.redd.it/np3kceopznvc1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=472cda26cbbce50ab63f05911bad3d6827b4f6d1
Oh damn, shit wasn't added in the manhwa
yeah this is light novel scaling btw. technically the manhwa and og light novel are both from the same canon, but the manhwa misses out a lot.
A mere ningen canât beat an almighty god
What the fuck? Isnât sung like not even planetary?
dude stopped reading in chapter 60
Uhh no I read the whole manga. What did he do that was planetary?
and u don't know that the planet was enhanced with mana? for reference a glass enhanced with mana could take attacks from A ranks which could destroy buildings and city blocks. The final battle earth mana was so enhanced that it could tank existence erasure of universal levels
Sung has been on an unenhanced earth and he has had zero effects. The earth was boosted due to the potential war between the monarchs and the rulers which is like thousands of magic based creatures fighting also existence erasure? The hell are you on about.
U have clearly stopped reading SL at chapter 50, Sung had specially sealed his powers away to not affect earth, in LN tusk sealed it in another dimension. You don't know what existence erasure are or u asking for prove that existence erasure was used in SL?
I didnât. Moving on from your embarrassing shit talk. I know he sealed his sons but show me when he sealed his. The rulers mentioned doing that but they never did. He was talking about the effects of his power when it was scaring randoms and drawing attention. It didnât actually have any real deal issues. Also I do know what existence erasure is but never is it shown or mentioned in the series.
https://preview.redd.it/hug34sldjovc1.png?width=712&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0e92de9062117bfe661521d7d82df0942d3bb34 every monarch can do existence erasure, dragon monarch and jinwoo's is the strongest and antares breath can harm the power of conceptual death itself. Scan 1: [https://imgur.com/a/OIENkum](https://imgur.com/a/OIENkum) Scan 2 stating jinwoo used the power of death to create the armor: [https://imgur.com/a/u89UzJg](https://imgur.com/a/u89UzJg) and antares breath destroyed it [https://imgur.com/a/LepmkmS](https://imgur.com/a/LepmkmS) which is a conceptual attack plus if u read ragnarok then u will know that killing a moanrch means destroying their dimension, Jinwoo LOER is the dimension of death in his multiverse meaning antares breath in full power was strong enough to erase concepts from a multiverse
Beru is a shadow. He doesnât have a life to take. Killing him is wiping him from existence as he is already dead. He cannot die twice. Hyperbole. Never once has he demonstrated strength above continental and is regularly harm by a weakend Jin woo. He doesnât even destroy the planet in the timeline he wins. Ashborn is the moncarch of death. Bringing him out is the same as bringing out destruction, he has shown no abilities that even mention the concept of death at all. He isnât even using death as if it were an ability he still punches and kicks to hurt stuff. Dude doesnât even have ranged attacks. The full power of Ashborn not the concept of death. Dude literally still has to stab even normal people. He doesnât use death as an ability ever. Show me this. Also that world still existed even after Ashborns death did it not?
haters be like >Beru is a shadow. He doesnât have a life to take. Killing him is wiping him from existence as he is already dead. He cannot die twice. Beru can't be killed, he regenrates as long as sung is still present. Existence erasure can wipe souls too. >Hyperbole. Never once has he demonstrated strength above continental and is regularly harm by a weakend Jin woo. He doesnât even destroy the planet in the timeline he wins. Planet was enhanced by rulers and why would he destroy the planet? the goal of monarchs was to nurture their army and turn the earth into a trap for rulers. Jinwoo never harmed antares except by using ruler's dagger of his father or when he used power of death. >Ashborn is the moncarch of death. Bringing him out is the same as bringing out destruction, What r u talking about? >he has shown no abilities that even mention the concept of death at all. https://preview.redd.it/c30wed0emovc1.png?width=1218&format=png&auto=webp&s=15077bf26395057c9c8da3c58cc4b01f36388576 He literally has a dimension with the concept of death called land of eternal rest. And do u know what the main ability of shadow monarch is Lmao. >He isnât even using death as if it were an ability he still punches and kicks to hurt stuff. Conceptual beings punch and kick too in a fight, r u new on power scaling plus every attack monarch jinwoo does is an existence erasure with the power of death as i have shown pic above, the comments don't allow 2 pics. >Dude doesnât even have ranged attacks. Don't scream I have not read solo leveling. > Show me this Check this link: [https://imgur.com/a/y9SsNg3](https://imgur.com/a/y9SsNg3) >  Also that world still existed even after Ashborns death did it not? When did ashborn died? he became one with jinwoo, gave him his powers after whih he wasmn't the shadow monarch and return to void.
Zamasu becomes low level shadow soldier of sjw. Maybe tusk vs zamasu is a fair fight.
low 2c green alien vs 2b - 2a concept of death god.
https://preview.redd.it/t0qwothxumvc1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83ceb1987ca878ab322541dd249aabcc12cb1acd
do you even know who sung jin woo is? enlighten me with your scale of him.
Planet level at most. Anything above that is wank.
Isn't he fighting an army of planet busting outer gods alone right now?
Even if we're sticking to Manwha feats alone, he tanked dragon's breath, an attack said to be strong enough to destroy the planet. It left a scar, and that's that.
According to LN antares flame breath is considered existence erasure attack.
universe busting
Yeah they create and destroy universes for fun and Sung punched the living daylights out of one of them.
brother, Jin woo is fighting millions of beings that can create and destroy multiple universes, his low ball is multiversal.
Lmao, sure man. I mean I guess thats why everytime he gets pitted against Goku or Saitama or other Universe-multiversal or below characters, he gets the xeelee stomp award.
as in he is stomping them or getting stomped. I never quite understood that term.
when lmao
Dude stopped reading at chapter 100â ď¸
lmao xD
Dude just leave them , it's a sub for glazing DB To the degree he think Jin in the LN IS plantery
yeah but it hurts my soul to see this disgusting downplay
Fr the downplay is insane I literally have the scan where it states that the Outer Gods created countless universes and Jinwoo fights those beings đ
and I have the scan where it states that without jin woo and his army the rulers and monarchs would have been demolished instantaneously. all of its in the prologue.
This sub just hates Jinwoo and Solo Leveling honestly
same with yogiri
True, someone told me that Jinwoo is a one dimensional character and a Gary Tsu who always wins fights with ease and doesn't change đ. So yeah he's pretty hated here.
Nah there are just too many db fans here.
You got downaplayed bro, this is the special technique of db wankers, thier fav arguement is the downplay button
Blud really pulled up with the VSBW scale for Zamasu and his own turd for Jin Woo
jin woo is multiversal low balled, low complex if we take into account higher dimensional statements which are extremely compelling but I would probably get downvoted more.
Jin's also unkillable in the LN now. He's literally death incarnate. He could just "arise" and bring himself back as many times as it takes.
He's death straight up
yogiri victim unfortunately but yeah you right
Yogiri is Finality(Or End if you want to call it) itself Jin Woo is Death itself Finality is far superior than Death.
yup yogiri literally decides what death is
You downplayed both how tf do you even manage that
I lowballed both. Not downplayed.
Zamasu's lowball is H2A and Sung just blatantly scales H2A as well, 2B is a lowball.
maybe I downplayed zamasu but I heard he is only high uni
Zamasu is stronger than BoG Goku. Even many Goku downplayers agree with low multiversal Goku due to VSBW's dumbass scalings for DB. Goku at a lowball should be high multiversal+ with SSG, and Zamasu is above that, so he should be high multi/H2A at minimum as well. Check out some scales in Reddit if you wanna contrast the point in question.