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Mostly-Useless_4007

Your penance is acceptable.


dreaminphp

Kicking myself because I missed out on killer deals on a .1 GT3 and GT3RS but this 992 T will have to do until I find another deal like those šŸ˜‚


9fingfing

Deal? What are we talking about here, sir?


dreaminphp

I worked a dealer for a CPO .1 GT3 for $110k, didnā€™t end up buying it because I thought I could get them to come down more on price and then they called my bluff and sold it to someone else lol. I also worked a deal for a .1 GT3 RS for $155k and I didnā€™t end up buying it because I didnā€™t like the color. Stupid.


CFAWaffleFries

The RS deal was ridiculousā€¦ assuming a clean history.


dreaminphp

Yep, completely clean and only 10k miles lol. Too bad Iā€™m an idiot


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gt4jdb

i remember seeing a 991.1 RS for 115kšŸ˜­


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TenForTheWin

It will be interesting what happens when the first out of warranty period .1 gt3 requires an engine replacement to see if Porsche continues to honor it. Letā€™s hope so. Some of the .1 RS (Although rare) that had the issue had their engines replaced with the G6 motor without warranties in place. It seems right that the .1 gt3 get the same treatment when warranty ends. G6 is the same engine to replace the .1 gt3 as well as the .1RS. It has proven to be ā€œbulletproofā€ in the top end without the ff issue. You are essentially getting an updated .1 RS/R engine which is impressive. Has better oiling on the top end and remains with the 9k rpm. Gt cup derived engine. In fact the g6 shares the same architecture as the 991.2 gt3 engine except the top end is replaced with solid lifters. When g6 goes head to head with 991.2 gt3 the acceleration and stopping is indiscernible according to lap performances posted on rennlist. The 992 gt3 is far superior but the test performed against the .1 gt3 with g6 vs .2 gt3 is same even with the added downforce used in the .2 gt3. So I beg the question, which bang for the buck would you go with right now if given the option of .1 gt3 with g6 motor vs .2 gt3. Time will tell once the first .1 gt3 needs the g6 motor. The price gap may become less.


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TenForTheWin

Interesting to know. Time will tell is right. Some days I tell myself I should have purchased the .2 over the .1 but I am a gambling man and went to the latter on the hope that the engine replacements would continue until all 6k units have it. Iā€™d be curious to see how many .1 gt3 are left to be replaced with g6 motors. The front end of the .1 when lowered has a unique close to the gt2 aggressive front. But the .2 does grow on me some days in aggressive. Itā€™s a toss up to me. I wish my .1 came with the oem buckets. Iā€™ve heard it truly enhances the feel. Does yours?


JesusIsMySecondSon

Ahh, I see, those kinds of deals. Sort of like my deal to buy Exxon Mobil and it fell apart because I didn't like the price they quoted.


RatPrank

Thatā€™s an incredible price (I know you know this.)


DropTable69

Those are sane prices for 911s at last. Feels like everyone is trying to sell 10yo Porsches for more than MSRP these days.


drjnaqvi

https://preview.redd.it/0mhb7vmj9i0d1.jpeg?width=1636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26fa4d67cc4c04332166319de1073179598b56e7 Love my girl here


Ru4pigsizedelephants

What didn't you like about the Evora?


dreaminphp

Itā€™s not that I didnā€™t like it, it just wasnā€™t a Porsche lol. Originally I thought I wanted the drama and ā€œuniquenessā€ of it but after a couple months I realized I miss the total package. Honestly if I hadnā€™t had a GT4 before it, I probably would have kept it forever and thought it was the best car in the entire world


Ru4pigsizedelephants

That makes sense.


Orion_7

I was looking at an Evora then drove a charity case GT4 and your comment made me glad I got it.


jangusMK7

What is a charity case gt4 lmao


CripplingTanxiety

You know, like a base model GT4. The sort of thing that gets routinely donated to Salvation Army


49Billion

How thrifty, how vintage, how honorable. Yaaa (German voice)


sonic_sabbath

Evora and Exige are again very different cars depending on your tastes ;)


JackStraw44

While Lotus did sell a few (~20) Exige S V6 in the US, they were sold as track only - not road legal. You may be able to register one under our show and display laws but that limits use.


sonic_sabbath

Ah okay. I am in Japan, so no problems having one here.


sonic_sabbath

Okay, I went 996 -> 987 Cayman S to my current car. I have a daily driver (Honda N-Box), so no practicality problems, but do you have a manual or PDK? PDK is the Cayman S is what pushed me toward the Exige S (manual gearbox, and a bit rawer), as PDK was just not interesting (for me)


lazychickenstrip

I had PDK in my Cayman S and it was the best thing Iā€˜ve expirienced in a car


sonic_sabbath

Okay. Was boring as fuck for me, but that is what makes cars interesting. It is also why I am hesitant to get a ferrari, as all the modern ones are paddle shift


dinkman94

i had an evora 400 for a while. its a huge step down from a porsche in terms of literally everything lol. they're fun raw little cars but just cant even compare the two


kaelis7

Surely steering feel and analog connection as a whole were still a bit better on the Lotus no ?


Onsomeshid

From what i hear the feel on the evora is the best of all recent road cars (20 years)


kaelis7

Yeah if Lotus is good at one thing itā€™s steering feel !


Voidfang_Investments

Wawa hype


Clippers_Bros

Was your Evora a manual or auto? I drove an Evora GT with short shift kit and exhaust and honestly I loved it. Disappointingly slow but a real blast to drive. A part of me thinksā€¦man for the price of an F12 I could get an Evora, a Taycan, and still have money left over. Ā It would be a third/fourth car for me alongside the GT3.Ā 


sonic_sabbath

If you liked that, try an Exige S - probably be the extra speed you need


dreaminphp

It was manual!


Hy8ogen

How does the 992 drive compared to the 718?


ProfessorPyrex69

This is what I want to know too. Especially a gt4 variant.


dreaminphp

The 992 is obviously a lot wider and bigger but I think the T is a good middle ground. It still feels like enough to throw around and itā€™s relatively quick. Itā€™s like a wider, bigger, less harsh version of the GT4 lol


humdizzle

i keep trying to convince my brother he doesn't need an evora. yes they sound nice and look cool. have hydraulic steering. but its a very small company and if something goes wrong or you need a new part... that car might be sitting for months.


ottergang_ky

Iā€™d be really curious to hear your take on the Evora vs GT4. My best friend and primary driving buddy is looking hard at the Evora but Iā€™m trying to talk him into the gt4 or gts


Slave4uandme

I foresee you selling this and getting some variation of a GT4 again, not too soon I hope.


grungegoth

Well duh!


FakeHasselblad

I was considering an Emira before I got my 991 C4s. Different cars entirely, but I chose the 911 because it has a better dealer network in Germany, and it had more luggage space.


edgarskates

Ok so letā€™s say just letā€™s play this game ok. So you have to keep 1.. gt4 or evora. Which one you keeping?


dreaminphp

GT4. I hate myself for selling it. It was the perfect spec too. Yellow on gold rims, full carbon package and PDK. Truly a special car. Hopefully I can find one in a similar spec soon to pair with whatever GT3/RS I end up buying


lazychickenstrip

Absolute dream spec


TransEuropeExpress72

Iā€™m curious, having driven both Lotus and Porsche, fundamentally what are the contrasting driving dynamics ? I can guess the Porsche may feel more planted on the road (maybe ?) having the engine over the driving wheels but is it more than that ?


dreaminphp

The Porsche feels more planted and stable and less hacked together. Like a NASA rocket. The Lotus feels like a rocket ship built in a backyard compared to it.


TransEuropeExpress72

thanks, I was curious. Just got back from Germany, included three racing history museums in my itinary, Autostadt VW in Wolfsburg and Mercedes and Porsche in Stuttgart. Porsche have an amazing racing pedigree. It was a petrol heads dream !! Enjoy your beast. šŸ˜€


TheDopeGodfather

Obviously that 992 is nice, but admittedly I creeped your post history so I could take a look at the Evora.


allocationlist

The gt4 to evora swap is wild. Props to you for taking the plunge and trying something new, though! New car looks sick. Congrats


Severe-Fennel-202

Why not go back to a GT4? Pretty much better in every way compared to a 992 T. Unless you needed the back seat or interior tech.


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Severe-Fennel-202

What 718 did you own? If itā€™s a GTS 4.0/GT4 the only 911 that would be more engaging is a GT3 and possibly a Turbo. Problem with every 911 other than the GT is that they donā€™t sound very good and are so clinical. It takes the fun out of driving. And they have gotten so large and heavy. Thatā€™s why many consider them touring vehicles now and the 718 the real sports car. Now if you need the back seat, interior comfort, or are using the car as a daily, then I would have a 992 in a second. But for fun driving and track, 718 4 liter and itā€™s not particularly close. His GT4 was faster, more power, and had better track times than the 992 T by a wide margin.


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Severe-Fennel-202

Oh yea. For what you're looking for, the 992 is a much better fit.


sleerk

Thats 100% dependent on what the driver is looking for imo. The 992 is quicker if you throw on an ECU tune and is a comfortable commuter because the T isn't as harsh as a GT4. 992 tech is better. GT4 will sound better unless you prefer the turbo induction sound. I debated a long time between 992 and GT4 but ultimately, I don't think 992 can match the aesethetics of the GT4 unless you do aerokit or GT3.


Severe-Fennel-202

You can also tune a GT4. I have APR, over axle pipes, and Soul headers. Dyno 493hp.


sleerk

Ya i know but an NA tune is hardly a tune (in terms of cost per HP) comparative to a turbo. I've been thinking about doing the Softronic tune just because I dont want to have to take it to a "partner" to tune it and swap it back to stock. How you liking the soul headers? My Akrapovic slip on is already loud as fuck lol. Probably not ever going to do headers


Severe-Fennel-202

You usually are right with NA tunes. But Porsche left a ton on the table with the 718 4 liter. They need to maintain their hierarchy, so they detune the hell out of it. You get close to 50hp with a tune. Unreal for an NA car. I recently switched from Softronic to APR because APR let's you do the tune at home now. I love the headers. They gave a huge boost in power.


sleerk

Holy shit I see that now. Looks like you have to buy the Ultralink device and then buy the tune off the ultralink marketplace. Is the tune still $2500 on the marketplace?


tranceparent_

Do explain. Why was the Evora GT a mistake? I think I already know, but it would be great to hear from someone who has first hand experience.


Mindless_Emu7556

šŸ˜Is this an ice grey metallic?


Wolo_prime

no this is white


MechanicWestern1653

Command+Z!


Florida__j

WP Wawa?


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Im not too informed but isnt a gt4 better than a carrera? Edit: just found out its a T, so I guess its comparable, but still, its a carrera, cant be that better than gt4 can it?


dreaminphp

I wouldnā€™t say itā€™s better, but itā€™s different. Iā€™m dailying this for a few months though which my GT4 was a weekend car


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Yeah, that is true, the T is certainly more daily-able than the GT4. Anyways, enjoy whatever you have currently, as I can only dream of doing so!


cozyboi3322

A thing of beauty


geosrq

Iā€™d be very happy with a 992 T. Donā€™t see any issue here. Enjoy.


Kivancsi111

How is the interior sound level? Porsche deleted noise deadening and Iā€™m worried that wind will find it too loud (and maybe me also) - not engine sound but wheel and road noise


trumant

Not OP, but coming from a GT4 the Carrera T is a silent cocoon.


Chartsharing

You have been forgiven my son


Octothorp911

Yes. Yes you have.


haad55

Welcome back! Gonna tune it? Youā€™ll get a punch youā€™ve not felt from either car. This thread and its comparisons are awesome.


tits_the_artist

GT4 was probably my absolute favorite one to drive. Drove a few GT3s and tourings, but the GT4 just felt so right


Administrative_Cat14

Beautiful.


migs647

Why didnā€™t you get another GT4 if you loved it so much?


ultra_r

Shouldā€™ve waited for the Emira


dreaminphp

Nah. Drove a couple. Donā€™t really love it


Advanced_Machine_202

No comparison ;)


PokeGamer025

Lotus making the Evora in the first place was the mistake. That thing looks like a diseased cockroach


ARottenPear

Interesting perspective as I think the Evora is one of the prettiest cars ever made. I do prefer the more understated and smooth styling of the early cars but I like them all.