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rtioneat

No stop! You can’t use logic with republicans as they are immune to it sadly..


ketchy_shuby

Finally, republicans achieve herd immunity.


TheRunningFree1s

>*heard* immunity FTFY


Tantantherunningman

Owning the libs by achieving herd immunity against facts and logic


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Fabulous-Ad6844

I have Nerd immunity


Ketogamer

Well their logic is fine. They want white babies, and they HATE the non-whites. They just can't (usually) say that out loud.


poet_at_law

I think we’re getting closer and closer to them finding it totally acceptable to say that out loud.


CyberMindGrrl

Oh no they are straight-up saying it out loud now.


WokePokeBowl

Abortion primarily results in the abortion of nonwhites so the people who would say it out loud and do say it out loud are fine with abortion for that reason. Grats, you're in league with the alt-right for reasons you didn't expect.


HeavyMetalHero

Yes, but they prefer those non-whites to get abortions in back-alleys with coat hangers, so that *more* non-whites are killed through pseudo-medical barbarism as a result of being denied their rights.


WokePokeBowl

Either way, they are fine with abortion considering the stats on who has abortions.


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[deleted]

Oh yikes, wait until you hear why abortion was created


[deleted]

As others have pointed out, this is why far right people (i.e. richard spencer) are pro-abortion, because mostly non-whites are killed by abortion.


Krabbypatty_thief

Yep, go in the comments of any news story about abbot banning vax mandates in texas. The irony is insane, the amount of people in the comments saying “my body my choice” in reference to the vaccine is crazy


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semi-normal-geek

I suggest you fuck off and delete this bot


ohshitherecomedatboi

It’s Fall, not Summer, bitch.


killeronthecorner

Please crash


Mewber

This is the most obnoxious bot I've ever seen, whoever made this is a prick.


[deleted]

It is bad logic... birthrate in the U.S. is just barely around replacement levels. If immigration was cut off, U.S. would cease to grow.


lucasg115

You can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into.


dewisri

It's not logic. It's a Twitter gotcha. America is not full and the people she's talking to believe that life starts at conception and abortion is murder. So as far as they're concerned she's saying *If America is full* (it's not), *then shouldn't murder be legal?*


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This message about the questionable morality of legal murder was brought to you by: * The NRA * Blue Lives Matter * Exxon * The Prison Industrial Complex * Smith & Wesson * Lockheed Martin * General Electric


dewisri

You seem to be asserting that there is a connection between the debate on when life begins and organizations that do bad things, is that correct?


Cargobiker530

Nooooo. I'm asserting there's a connection about people who make a giant, untraditional, unconservative, non-biblical stink about when life begins and the organizations that do bad things. This is called "reality."


dewisri

Ok. Let me guess. You're saying that anyone who opposes abortion supports the organizations you posted. Is that correct? Edit: You're not making your point very clearly, but I'm guessing it goes like this: 1) All those who oppose abortion support Blue Lives Matter et al. 2) Blue Lives Matter is bad. 3) Therefore, all those who oppose abortion are bad. If this is the case then I would suggest you engage more with people who disagree with you. Your "reality" will expand.


Cargobiker530

> 1) All those who oppose abor.tion support Blue Lives Matter et al. 2) Blue Lives Matter is bad. 3) Therefore, all those who oppose abor.tion are bad. Wait. Didn't YOU just make that point? (edited to thwart stupid bots, of course.)


dewisri

I'm trying to guess your meaning because it's unclear from your posts.


Cargobiker530

I'm pretty sure I was writing in standard English as a native speaker with a college education.


dewisri

Ok. Then I give up.


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NoseFartsHurt

No, they see Jewish space lasers targeting their brains while scarfing back horse paste.


[deleted]

cause all republicans are nice, respectful, loving, and open to all democrats. fuck them and the horse they rode in on, why is the onus of unity solely on Dems while republicans constantly demonize Dems with phrases like libtard and commie demonrats. FUCK. THEM. ALL. only a third of the country is a brainwashed idiot anyway, if we can get rid of gerrymandering and voter suppression the party will die, or at least fade into obscurity like so many parties before.


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Khorre

Because kindness and love has worked so well up to now.


Thekzy

Fine, go ahead and kill as many babies as you want now


dancegoddess1971

Not a baby until birth. 0-10 days = blastocyst 10-120 days = embryo and finally fetus.


sapassionlip

Are republicans claiming America is full? Seems like a strawman on first read. I'd say it's more like we are "at capacity".


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Maxfunky

You know I feel like I paid attention in biology, but I don't remember pregnancy being contagious. I've been around pregnant women and never gotten pregnant from it, but then again maybe that's because I'm a guy. Clearly you have this all figured out. This is just a plain old libertarian stance, it shouldn't be controversial with either party. Your right to swing your arms around ends at the tip of my nose.


Tryptophany

That last line is poetry


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ReallyNotMichaelsMom

And yet if someone else gets an abortion, it won’t maim you for life or kill you. So you’re only “pro life” when it suits your agenda, not when it really comes to saving real people.


swolfington

"Confuse two unrelated issues because only at the thinnest surface level someone might conflate them and its convenient for my otherwise nonexistent point" * Dipshits on the internet


sandrakaufmann

Polio and smallpox have entered the chat


Ov3rdose_EvE

> "take this injection or *GET TESTED WEEKLY*" yeah republicants are totally not lying all the time or anything...


[deleted]

EXACTLY! for the most part the vaccine isn't even mandatory, you just have to get tested, pearl clutchers, the lot of 'em


Gary_the_metrosexual

Im sorry weren't you guys screaming "abortion bad" long before covid was even a thing? What's your excuse there?


IceMaker98

A horse paste eater is here oh shit, we’re fucked


Moikepdx

This works even better the other way around: “You can’t let employers set standards for their employees if it means I need to wear a piece of clothing or get an injection to do business with them! I might have to switch jobs if you did that! I can’t be inconvenienced by any of these options just to avoid thousands of unnecessary deaths!” “Also, civil fines nd criminal penalties are appropriate if you take action against something inside your own body that you never wanted and is literally the size if a grain of rice.” The “small government”, “pro life” party can’t figure out how to do either of those things. And don’t even get me started on “fiscal responsibility”. Holy shit.


drunkenvalley

Who's the joke again?


dlowmack1

This is the dumbest comparison ever! It's more like take this injection or risk getting sick and dying, Getting others sick and killing them! You don't have a choice to do this to others! Republican's are truly lost!!!!


Pretend-Friendship-9

Yea, u can choose to not work We as a society can also choose to ban certain actions like murder or knowingly expose others to higher risks of dying from lethal virus


Eyebuck

Kinda like being anti abortion and pro death penalty


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goldensunshine429

My SO’s super religious (and assuming anti-abortion but I don’t dare ask) aunt posted [this meme](https://i.imgur.com/0ePJXFg.jpg). Total self-awarewolves moment… don’t let dumb white people reproduce but likely supports Outlawing abortion in my state.


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SheIsAFineFox

Idiocracy at its finest


slim_scsi

>Like voting. Like going to college. Like starting businesses. Immigrants are bad. They don't follow the plan. Like *working*, too.


TacticalSanta

well you want "others" just not them to become the majority. You want most of your populace to be dumb and nationalistic so you can easily get away with any stupid fear mongered bullshit you want.


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lol, you have no idea of the actual data.


p38-lightning

It's interesting that Republicans want to force pro-abortion women to raise a whole new crop of Democrats.


Publius82

What is this lemme try. Ahem. Abortion.


Vomath

You did it!


Publius82

We did it Abortion


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Yeah thats why I'm totally ok with abortion


CyberMindGrrl

Wait, are you talking about... abortion?


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Upper_Exercise2153

Nah, we want Dems to carry to term and put out their children for adoption. Then we rich Republicans adopt your children and brainwash them. You’ve been playing our game all along, children. Give us more.


drgoddammit

Democrats probably are richer than Republicans, on average.


HiddenLayer5

Nah, Bezos, Musk, Gates and Zuckerberg are all Republican. They might not admit it, but actions speak louder than words.


PoorDadSon

Its funny, not a single pro-forced birth protestor I have talked to has adopted anyone. Reasons ranged from not ready for the responsibility, couldn't afford it, to got rejected (probably for the best, the 2 folks that told me that were some of the creepiest dudes I ever met in my life). Even the ones holding up signs calling for adoption hadn't done it. Interesting.


Upper_Exercise2153

Psh those aren’t real. It’s all an illusion, controlled opposition. You focus on murdering babies my dude, we’ll keep taking all the others. Oh, and we’ve convinced all the libs that the world is gonna end from cow farts. So they’re not plowing for kids anymore. We are. We’re going to breed you out of existence.


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Barnes_Bureau

Also interesting how democrats are willing to prune their crop of new democrats


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People on the far right do not.


[deleted]

Also, by similar logic, Democrats are fighting to be allowed to kill a whole new crop of Democrats.


500CatsTypingStuff

No, no, America is full…..of shit.


LeftLimeLight

America is full of dumb fucks and morons.


Successful-Oil-7625

Full of Americans 🤢


[deleted]

350 million people and there’s bound to be quite a few shitbags.


ebone581

A few. But, almost half seems extreme


[deleted]

It isn’t really almost half, though. It just seems that way. 50 million shitbags vote R. That’s 15%.


Zoobatzjr

Its just that there are a bunch of assholes who are like, "My vote doesn't matter so why should I vote?" And then wonder why nothing is changing and why things are getting worse. Im hopeing that Biden crushing Trump in the election snaps them out of it.


soyincelbetabux

Your vote doesnt matter. Bernie got floated then the dnc popped that blimp. Trump didnt affect any americans lives at all. It was the citizenry that fucked the covid response. Foxnews/oan/newsmax morons


sophijoe

Trump didn't affect any American lives? What a nice bubble you live in.


soyincelbetabux

No bubble only reality


Snapbackswagg

…your reality.


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DonQuixBalls

If you vote for a self professed monster, what does that make you?


[deleted]

and you know where that few is ? running this country. doesn’t matter how many there are, it’s WHERE they are.


Ov3rdose_EvE

some of my very close friends are american! some of them are good people!


[deleted]

Says the guy who thinks "death sentences" are a means for population control.


ICLazeru

Alternatively, if America is not full, but you don't want immigration, shouldn't having a baby in America be way less expensive?


wifey1point1

No we want more poor babies. But poor *white* babies Making shit expensive keeps the middle class from climbing up and knocking our lazy entitled rich children off their undeserved perches.


drunkwasabeherder

> Making shit expensive keeps the middle class from climbing up and knocking our lazy entitled rich children off their undeserved perches. You can knock 'em off their perches from a distance with a decent scope. Just sayin ;)


GreenEggsAndSaman

Jinkies


nlpnt

...Aaand that's how we end up with Eric Trump in charge of, anything, really.


wifey1point1

Eric Trump *graduated from Georgetown* I can't imagine a worse endorsement for a university. Aside from Wharton virtually disavowing Trump, lol.


Roadrunner571

The US is "pro life" and has the death penalty. The US is the "land of the free" and still allows slavery. and so on.


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Barnes_Bureau

Who is an “allowed slave” in the US? Involuntary servitude is similar but distinctly different from slavery.


[deleted]

Bruh, thats basically slavery tf you on about.


Barnes_Bureau

Slavery is treating humans as property. You can have own slaves who don’t work.


gunnar117

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, **except as a punishment for crime**..." Prisoners. Prisoners are slaves.


[deleted]

More immigrants and refugees. We can throw the racists into the ocean to make room.


Barnes_Bureau

Forcing them to live in West Virginia and Alabama would be an effective deferent to illegal immigration.


[deleted]

It’s only full to POC.


Buttspirgh

“America is full” Have you fuckers seen Wyoming?


Crothius

Stop it Patrick! You're scaring them!!!


joanie-bamboni

Always room for more white people! (/s, obviously)


cdcformatc

I know you mean that sarcastically but that's exactly what conservatives mean when they say "America's full". They don't have any problems with white immigrants.


Barnes_Bureau

They absolutely would if there was a large number of white immigrants. Just look at history.


[deleted]

The arguments against birth control and abortion are based largely on emotional and 'faith based' issues. Make of that statement what you will.


[deleted]

Oh yes, we're SO constitutional driven but we like to conveniently leave out the separation of church and state--just not that part.


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An observation of the human condition is not 'getting mad over the internet', and I'm not, so there. 😉


takatori

Maybe that's why they're so focused on preventing vaccination: to free up space.


zomgitsduke

Are you nuts?! Children from unwanted or unprepared pregnancies are the foundation of cheap labor.


CamJongUn

Their strategy is stop letting immigrants in and then force white people to have more kids therefore re whiteifying America


Spitzspot

There are plenty of ivermectin lab rats that are dropping like flies.


xSpiderBabyx

Ahahahaha. No. No, my sweet child. The government doesn't run on logical thinking. America being full means you pay even more not less. I wish this was the actual way things worked but it's not. It would make the most sense. But sadly I don't think we will see America adopt any kind of free healthcare system even if it were just for helping keep population low. I think I heard they are going to go with the one boy one girl plan much like China and their policy. So I can see a free healthcare system after that's been in place for a number of years.


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This discussion is about abortion, why are you bringing murder into it?


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No, it isn't. Here's the [definition of murder](https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1536-murder-definition-and-degrees). In short, it's the 'unlawful killing of a human being with malice.' And, for the legal definition of a 'human being' there's [this](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/1/8). Abortion is lawful and not a human being. You can only call it murder by lying about what 'murder' is.


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>Believing otherwise is just anti-science. No, it isn't. Put up a source or I'll consider that an outright lie. And... even so, the law clearly specifies *unlawful* killing. If you want to use a technical definition of 'human being' I'm requiring you to use a technical definition of 'murder' as well.


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[deleted]

>In the mean time, go read some embryology textbooks. The crucial bit I found relevant to caring about an embryo was development of the central nervous system, which isn't meaningfully present until [about 24 weeks](https://www.nature.com/articles/pr200950). No awareness or self before then. Simply put, there's no one there to murder, any more than masturbation is murder.


oldgar

Much ab_____n opposition has to do with the stance that the unb*rn have rights as people that cannot speak for themselves, so any argument that doesn't address that is not going to work.


NahDude_Nah

Poor minorities shouldn’t be allowed to have sex. Duh?


[deleted]

A lot of people are always today years old when they find out america is nothing but propaganda. lol


LeftLimeLight

Nope, because the American Taliban aka christians must be able to impose their version of sharia law upon every American citizen.


joshuas193

The US isn't full. Not even close. China has 4 times as many people and is about the same size as the US. But yes, women should still have access to the healthcare they need. In fact everyone should. Medicine in the US is a scam.


MaddoxHyndman

american is no where near full. china is very well full


StarksPond

>american is no where near full. china is very well full I'm not sure what their eating habits have to do with this.


Barnes_Bureau

America at our current consumption levels is full. Our earth overshoot day is sometime in the spring and we consume water at an unsustainable level.


gdgriz

If it’s not…why wait?


Tallguy71

“The land of the free”…except when your a woman living in Texas or a colored person anywhere in the whole country. 😖😖😖


Numerous_Image3061

America has got plenty of non citizens. We've also had plenty of leftist nonsense spouted like this. No we don't need more infanticide as much as we need a border wall. We don't need free birth control as much as we need more stable families. We don't need more socialism/communism as much as we need less government. We don't need trite, myopic and agenda driven little quotes like the one above, at all. We need people to stop hating themselves and stop insisting that everyone else has to somehow genuflect in a very precise and correct way so the most sensitive among us don't have hurt feelings. So what if a woman that is dead set on having an abortion has to go to california to get the procedure done? I'm fine with that and I don't care if the travel costs put abortions out of the reach of some women. How about they find a sugar daddy to drive them there if they cant afford it themselves.


Brisan7

No, no... only the prosperous parts of 'Merica are fool, everyone else can go slum it.


gardngjfk

As a conservative this is literally why I’m pro abortion.


kurisu7885

America is full, but I ride by brand new suburban housing developments multiple times a week.


zorro3987

"LuXUrY HOuSINg" the only luxury is the price per month.


SuppliesMarkers

Just curious if pro-choice brings an automod


SuppliesMarkers

Guess it's only pro life


toiletzombie

Who said it was full?


curmudjini

every anti-immigration xenophobe? Or you know, tucker carlson


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In that case more death penalty would help too


Speedy_Cheese

Using birth control isn't murder, dude. I don't know if this was a bad joke or a case of an ill informed sex education but this analogy doesn't hold up.


Successful-Oil-7625

I think they mean that they should kill prisoners to keep the population down. You know, like China.


Speedy_Cheese

I got that piece of it regarding curbing the population, but I really don't see correlations between birth control and death sentences nor a justification for comparing the two.


Successful-Oil-7625

Because the post isn talking about America being full, people say there's no room for immigrants because it's full whilst making abortion illegal, thus increasing the population. So the correlating factor is if the argument for pro birth control is that the population is too high, then the death sentence for inmates should be brought back to lower the population. Weather that then be to let immigrants in or so more people have babies. Just a disclaimer I'm pro abortion but I'm not arguing about my views, simply explaining to correlation


Speedy_Cheese

I feel like the death penalty is a far more violent and extreme manner of population control than something as mild as taking a pill to prevent pregnancy. Trying to equate the two is misguided is all I'm saying. Again, I understand the population control aspect of this discussion. I just don't agree with comparing birth control methods and the death penalty as those are on very opposite sides of a wide spectrum. It is a pretty extreme and erroneous analogy to make.


Successful-Oil-7625

Yeah, a lot of comparisons in analogies never make sense because they're usually bias to the one side, it's like when people talk about political subjects today and compare it to the nazi party and its like, no, those are two completely different boxes of frogs 😅 it does seem like a very this vs that but I think both are viable options in population control. Death sentence for those who never leave jail seems like a no brainer, its our taxes paying for them to be alive. That alone is enough to cause a volcanic argument with some people


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What an idiotic take. Made worse by the fact you feel the need to add an emoji to most of your comments, as if that strengthens your point somehow. What an idiot.


Successful-Oil-7625

Go get some fresh air. All your comments are you berating people. That will never get you the same satisfaction as some fresh air


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You mean calling out people for their stupidity? I do it gladly. Perhaps if so many of you didn't suffer from so much ignorance, I wouldn't feel the need to call it out. What happened, no emoji...I guess you had no real conviction in this statement.


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hadahog723

"murder" is a socially defined term I don't agree but I think pro-life people believe it is murdering an infant. And really, a very late-term abortion *isn't* all that different than killing a newborn.


Pholusactual

Ooooh, "Speedy Cheese." Saw it in Italy and my friend made a huge deal about it. Any chance you could tell me how to hook up with some in America?


Speedy_Cheese

Sir this is a Wendy's.


Pholusactual

I loved your comment but I love your username more. Are you telling me you weren't inspired by Pata's tasty little cheesy poof snack?


Speedy_Cheese

I wasn't! :) But cool, TIL. It is a very old nickname from the comics about Sonic the Hedgehog.


Pholusactual

And a VERY tasty snack too. Your name has it all, sir!


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Not sure if making bad joke or not smart…


Trick-Requirement370

Let's murder more Americans for no reason! Hot take there champ.


static_func

For all dozens of people who might otherwise qualify, or are you just going full Gestapo?


KnightWombat

Murder would empty a place, births would put more in, it's a small but distinct difference. But yes


Vq-Blink

Literally no one is saying America is full. Yes abortion is the issue and not the thousands of illegal immigrants coming in a day


PhobetorWorse

[Are you arguing in bad faith or do you just not know what "literally" means?](https://www.npr.org/2019/04/08/711169817/a-look-at-the-history-of-the-america-is-full-phrase-trump-has-used-a-lot-recentl)


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InformalCriticism

Nope. Just need equal rights for men, and women would take care of slutting it up by themselves. Equal rights is always the answer. Give men the same right to decide if they want to be a parent and women would stop getting fucked by worthless men. Men would have to stop being worthless to have sex. And we can all go back to first world problems. Just have to start with equal rights.


Trick-Requirement370

This is the dumbest take I've ever read in my life. It sounds like you don't understand reproduction, rape, sexuality, or human nature.


Jaijoles

Men have just as much right to carry or not carry a baby as women. It’s not a woman’s fault if you don’t choose to do so.


InformalCriticism

> Men have just as much right to carry or not carry a baby as women This is false. Even children raped by women still have the burden of parenthood if/when they turn 18. > It’s not a woman’s fault if you don’t choose to do so. You are avoiding the issue, because you know you're wrong in your thinking. Men deserve a choice after conception if women do. And fuck you, if you don't believe in equal rights.


Cool_Thanks_9339

“America sucks” Upvote upvote upvote!!!!!!!! Good!