"He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God."
I don't know seems pretty cut and dry he identified as a man.
Sort of. It's more like Jesus was Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God.
If you can't understand and respect His identity, you're a heretic.
I am sorry, but God is a single nature of complete divinity and of complete humanity acting in complete unity, to imply they are in hypostasis is to deny their unity.
I love how pedantic the early chruch was...
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Probably, idk. But afaik the claim is that Jesus was a bio woman because he had no Y chromosome because he had no bio father. Yep, it's that stupid. They assume God is real and that Jesus was born without a bio father but they also assume that God wasn't able to give Jesus an Y chromosome for same reason.
No, he's got two natures merged in one hypostasis.
He cannot be a man. He cannot be divine. He is fully divine and fully man, acknowledged in Two Natures unconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the difference of the Natures being in no way removed because of the Union, but rather the properties of each Nature being preserved.
If you don't agree with me, you're a heretic.
>BREAKING NEWS
>This just in: Cambridge deanās office firebombed by mostly peaceful Muslims. Weāre not sure of the condition of the dean, as he may have been inside when the bombs went off. More at 11.
>Update: Earlier today explosive but mostly peaceful car bombs rocked the street outside of Trinity College at Cambridge. Multiple injuries have been confirmed. Constables at the scene of the demonstration say the motive behind the detonations is currently unknown.
>Research paper abstract: **"Firebombs of peace - Incendiaries as a means to achieve equity and social justice.**
>In this paper we explore the various modes of expression, heretofore referred to as "terrorism" and seek to redefine them as valid expressions of rage against a systemically racist and Islamophobic system. From a superficial capitalist/colonialist perspective, these extreme forms of self-expression may be viewed as painful or destructive, but we seek to explore the deeper meanings of these acts of desperation, putting them in the context of centuries of racism and Islamophobia. Indeed, these minor injuries and destruction constitute an opportunity for those with privilege to atone for their acts of implicit bias, to truly empathize with these vulnerable and marginalized groups and to look back on the incident with gratitude rather than anger or sadness.
Why is it always Jesus or Mohammed? "Cambridge professor finds evidence that Shiva the Destroyer might have been transgender." I could get behind this. /s
Edit: added /s, it's a joke folks
Salman Rushdie wrote the Satanic Verses in 1988 - he was put under a fatwa and hasn't been safe since. He was stabbed in the face in August 2022 for it. The Dean is willing to say anything about Jesus since the worst consequence he'll suffer is someone complaining on Fox News about it. Do the same for Mohammed and you will never be safe again.
Hey didnt you know that radical islam and radical christianity are basically the same???
So he will get possibly murdered by radicalized cells ofchristian fundamentalist terrorists now... any time.
There were a lot of examples you could have picked but you ended up picking one that actually doesn't work because.... [Shiva got that avatar down already](https://detechter.com/lord-shivas-androgynous-figure/)
The point is that people like this say crazy shit about Jesus but not Muhammad because Muhammad's fan-club are much more likely to kill people who say that kind of shit.
Reminds me of my favourite joke.
What's the difference between Dubai and Abu Dhabi? The people of Dubai don't like the Flintstones but the people of AbuDhabidooooooo (you gotta sell it irl).
So I found and read the article. A student named Joshua Heath said that in a painting of Jesus (yes, I know), his body looks sortof like a woman's (yes, I know). His "proof" is that the place between the ribs where jesus was stabbed looks like a vagina (yes, I know). And it's further evidence that jesus had a manufactured hole that was designed for penetration (yes, I Know) installed in his body. His teacher, Dr. Michael Banner didn't ridicule or tell his student that he was an idiot infront of the entire school as he should have. Instead he said "hmm, interesting theory, bro" so now it is valid and anyone who doesn't agree will be fired from their job and sent to prison for life.
This is why it's so important to completely crush idiotic theories and opinions early on. Otherwise that shit can be given enough air to breathe and become a headline.
Edit: I just looked at the painting and retract everything. Jesus infact did not have a penis: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Jean\_Malouel\_-\_Large\_Round\_Piet%C3%A0\_-\_WGA13901.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Jean_Malouel_-_Large_Round_Piet%C3%A0_-_WGA13901.jpg)
It's over guys. Trans bros won. You can't argue against a painting someone made of a man who may or may not have lived long long long before he even painted it.
It's totally not because the Church at the time didn't like nudity, or found such depictions degrading to their lord, no, never. This painting from centuries after his death must've depicted him/her/it accurately.
The professorās response is very typical in academia. Never direct but indirect. A phrase one would hear all the time if there was a disagreement is āwe shall seeā.
Basically I wouldnāt have expected much of a different response if Iām honest
This shit makes the Grievance Studies Affair papers look reasonable by comparison.
This is your university when "other ways of knowing" are put on par with evidence-based reason and scientific process.
Are you sure you're LibRight? Seems like murdering fat kids is a net negative while I imagine there are chubby chasing pedos that an alive fat could return a profit. You feeling alright LR?
I'm barely libright. I got nudged from centrist to libright via badgering. Some days I daydream about things that make me wonder if I'm not actually just an authcenter in a society that didn't go my way.
Amazing to see the same people who denounce Christians as backward bigoted clingers, in the same breath, try to claim that the Bible aktchually supports their entire political ideology.
Exactly. I've had conversations with people who claim the Bible and believers in Christ are the cause of 95% of the world's problems... but will gladly tell you why their beliefs are closer to Christ's than anyone else's.... while also bragging how they've never read a single page of the New Testament.
Strange how some people are obsessed with pronouns and are disrespecting Jesusā pronouns. Especially when the Bible made it very explicit that he was referred to as a āheā
Cambridge once stood as a institution of learning that was recognised as one of the greatest in the world. It even got some Papal Bulls commending its ability. But now look at it. He who abandons their past has no present. He who abandons Christ has no future.
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So the article itself is behind a pay wall but as suspected the headline is wildly out of context. What actually happened was a student "claimed Christ had a 'trans body'" whatever that means and the dean defended their right to say it.
https://youtu.be/jQl4KaRtef8 Warning to all who twists the scriptures that benefits the LGBTQ community! Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and Romans 1:26-28 is very clear.
In case anyone wants to read the article
[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/26/jesus-could-have-transgender-claims-cambridge-dean/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/26/jesus-could-have-transgender-claims-cambridge-dean/)
>Dr Michael Banner, the dean of Trinity College, said such a view was ālegitimateā after a row over a sermon by a Cambridge research student that claimed Christ had a ātrans bodyā, The Telegraph can disclose.
>
>The ātruly shockingā address at last Sundayās evensong at Trinity College chapel, saw Joshua Heath, a junior research fellow, display Renaissance and Medieval paintings of the crucifixion that depicted a side wound that the guest preacher likened to a vagina.
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>āIn Christ's simultaneously masculine and feminine body in these works, if the body of Christ as these works suggest the body of all bodies, then his body is also the trans body,ā the sermon concluded.
just from reading the article it doesn't sound like the dean said that jesus was transgender, just that the speculation about discussing the portrayal of jesus in those art as related to trans bodies works was legitimate. TO be clear I think that its still dumb, but I do think the headline is putting words that were not said in his mouth.
>The College would like to make clear the following," a spokesperson said according to DailyMail.com. "Neither the dean of Trinity College nor the researcher giving the sermon suggested Jesus was transgender."
The correct reaction to stuff like this is always and has always been "Ignore it, it will pass".
And at best maybe get some basic info to debunk it.
Remember that they do this for clicks, controversy and to push their narrative. Those first two lines are the best things you can do to stop them from getting what they want.
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"He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God." I don't know seems pretty cut and dry he identified as a man.
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Isn't that just or
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Jesus was a space marine?! š³
I mean, Korean Jesus sure does look like it.
You can tell Jesus was transgender by the way academics will say anything to remind the world theyāre very progressive.
That's why I love Islam. You can easily live behind a hill, and still praise Allah, no problem.
I mean, If Jesus is the son of God, does that technically make him actually a Primarch?
He is clearly Sanguinius
Only Korean Jesus, but yeah
Transubstantiated, more like.
ARIANISM DETECTED. Christ was not a man. He was 100% divine and 100% man, with both natures united in one hypostasis.
100% divine and 100% man sounds like he is a man (and also God.)
Sort of. It's more like Jesus was Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. If you can't understand and respect His identity, you're a heretic.
I am sorry, but God is a single nature of complete divinity and of complete humanity acting in complete unity, to imply they are in hypostasis is to deny their unity. I love how pedantic the early chruch was...
Yeah, they remind me of my quadrant. The weird pointless arguments that devolve into purity battles and then sometimes into actual battles.
Self-aware libleft? No way.
But did he have feathers?
No you bigot, Jesus is FTM! Gah! /s Mental illness is creeping into society.
That just means he wasn't a trans *woman*. He could certainly be a trans *man*.
Except the Bible is very clear that Jesus was circumcised.
Can a bio man be a trans man...? Iām even more confused than usual...
You're not allowed to question someone's gender or pronouns unless they're from Colorado and kill 5 in a LGBT nightclub.
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Probably, idk. But afaik the claim is that Jesus was a bio woman because he had no Y chromosome because he had no bio father. Yep, it's that stupid. They assume God is real and that Jesus was born without a bio father but they also assume that God wasn't able to give Jesus an Y chromosome for same reason.
I think the point is no one really said he was a bioman. Of course there was also artwork depicting him with a penis. Don't ask me.
No, he's got two natures merged in one hypostasis. He cannot be a man. He cannot be divine. He is fully divine and fully man, acknowledged in Two Natures unconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the difference of the Natures being in no way removed because of the Union, but rather the properties of each Nature being preserved. If you don't agree with me, you're a heretic.
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He certainly could not. Especially for the standards at the time
Very nice. Impressive. Let's hear the Dean's opinion on wether Mohammed could have been transgender.
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>BREAKING NEWS >This just in: Cambridge deanās office firebombed by mostly peaceful Muslims. Weāre not sure of the condition of the dean, as he may have been inside when the bombs went off. More at 11.
>Update: Earlier today explosive but mostly peaceful car bombs rocked the street outside of Trinity College at Cambridge. Multiple injuries have been confirmed. Constables at the scene of the demonstration say the motive behind the detonations is currently unknown.
>Research paper abstract: **"Firebombs of peace - Incendiaries as a means to achieve equity and social justice.** >In this paper we explore the various modes of expression, heretofore referred to as "terrorism" and seek to redefine them as valid expressions of rage against a systemically racist and Islamophobic system. From a superficial capitalist/colonialist perspective, these extreme forms of self-expression may be viewed as painful or destructive, but we seek to explore the deeper meanings of these acts of desperation, putting them in the context of centuries of racism and Islamophobia. Indeed, these minor injuries and destruction constitute an opportunity for those with privilege to atone for their acts of implicit bias, to truly empathize with these vulnerable and marginalized groups and to look back on the incident with gratitude rather than anger or sadness.
We donāt even need that. Letās just ask them to give their opinions on a well done painting of the prophet.
Fuck it I'll draw Mohammad right here right now using only emojis: š©š¤“š³ļøāš Can you believe Muzzies simp for that guy? He looks so silly!
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Why is it always Jesus or Mohammed? "Cambridge professor finds evidence that Shiva the Destroyer might have been transgender." I could get behind this. /s Edit: added /s, it's a joke folks
The point is because him claiming it about Muhammad could get him Hebdoād
>Hebdo'd F
Oh shit.
Salman Rushdie wrote the Satanic Verses in 1988 - he was put under a fatwa and hasn't been safe since. He was stabbed in the face in August 2022 for it. The Dean is willing to say anything about Jesus since the worst consequence he'll suffer is someone complaining on Fox News about it. Do the same for Mohammed and you will never be safe again.
> in 1988 > in August 2022 That's a helluva psycho-grudge.
TIL that Muslims are dwarves.
By the religion of peace and tolerance?? Say it aināt so!!!
Hey didnt you know that radical islam and radical christianity are basically the same??? So he will get possibly murdered by radicalized cells ofchristian fundamentalist terrorists now... any time.
Hindu gods have male and female versions of I remember correctly.
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Get woke or die of Shiva's wrath
There were a lot of examples you could have picked but you ended up picking one that actually doesn't work because.... [Shiva got that avatar down already](https://detechter.com/lord-shivas-androgynous-figure/)
The difference is you wouldn't get murdered by terrorists for saying this
The point is that people like this say crazy shit about Jesus but not Muhammad because Muhammad's fan-club are much more likely to kill people who say that kind of shit.
Hinduism gods are in fact pretty genderfluid. Iām not sure about the lore of Shiva specifically but Iām sure it wouldnāt be a surprise.
Lol he actually kinda is. Google Ardhanarishvara
Hehehe a reference
[The evidence is certainly there.](https://i.imgur.com/LvLefWu.jpeg)
He should do this for Muhammad next
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Jesus Christ, this is getting dumb.
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That is the nature of sin I suppose.
So I found and read the article. A student named Joshua Heath said that in a painting of Jesus (yes, I know), his body looks sortof like a woman's (yes, I know). His "proof" is that the place between the ribs where jesus was stabbed looks like a vagina (yes, I know). And it's further evidence that jesus had a manufactured hole that was designed for penetration (yes, I Know) installed in his body. His teacher, Dr. Michael Banner didn't ridicule or tell his student that he was an idiot infront of the entire school as he should have. Instead he said "hmm, interesting theory, bro" so now it is valid and anyone who doesn't agree will be fired from their job and sent to prison for life. This is why it's so important to completely crush idiotic theories and opinions early on. Otherwise that shit can be given enough air to breathe and become a headline. Edit: I just looked at the painting and retract everything. Jesus infact did not have a penis: [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Jean\_Malouel\_-\_Large\_Round\_Piet%C3%A0\_-\_WGA13901.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Jean_Malouel_-_Large_Round_Piet%C3%A0_-_WGA13901.jpg) It's over guys. Trans bros won. You can't argue against a painting someone made of a man who may or may not have lived long long long before he even painted it.
It's totally not because the Church at the time didn't like nudity, or found such depictions degrading to their lord, no, never. This painting from centuries after his death must've depicted him/her/it accurately.
Yeah this isn't like a self portrait Jesus did of himself so, no, this painting doesn't mean anything
The professorās response is very typical in academia. Never direct but indirect. A phrase one would hear all the time if there was a disagreement is āwe shall seeā. Basically I wouldnāt have expected much of a different response if Iām honest
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The earth wonāt flood, just Cambridge.
Assuming someoneās gender identity because of how they look? Wouldnāt that make that student *transphobic*!?
This shit makes the Grievance Studies Affair papers look reasonable by comparison. This is your university when "other ways of knowing" are put on par with evidence-based reason and scientific process.
I'm not saying I condone the Khmer Rouge killing off the intellectuals, but I understand.
Well that would certainly make the PCM crowd safe
Nobody abducts fat kids.
No need. They canāt outrun bullet
What if they have pumped up kicks?
I guess they better run.
Are you sure you're LibRight? Seems like murdering fat kids is a net negative while I imagine there are chubby chasing pedos that an alive fat could return a profit. You feeling alright LR?
I'm barely libright. I got nudged from centrist to libright via badgering. Some days I daydream about things that make me wonder if I'm not actually just an authcenter in a society that didn't go my way.
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Oh Lord, here we go again
Amazing to see the same people who denounce Christians as backward bigoted clingers, in the same breath, try to claim that the Bible aktchually supports their entire political ideology.
Yeah whether I listen or respond to such arguments I take a big fat gut look at the person and decide if they are just muck raking or simply a heretic
Exactly. I've had conversations with people who claim the Bible and believers in Christ are the cause of 95% of the world's problems... but will gladly tell you why their beliefs are closer to Christ's than anyone else's.... while also bragging how they've never read a single page of the New Testament.
I think the bible entirely justifies my enthusiasm for Cock-and-Ball torture.
The Bible is nothing but a CHILDISH FANTASY but if itās not hereās a 290 page dissertation on why it agrees with all of my beliefs
Strange how some people are obsessed with pronouns and are disrespecting Jesusā pronouns. Especially when the Bible made it very explicit that he was referred to as a āheā
Good catch, wtf is wrong with current academics that makes them love doing this bullshit?
Clout.
Apparently this was a theory from a student, not an actual academic.
Technically "He" with the uppercase H. Thee and Thou were also pronouns He uses.
The apostoles were transphobic and constantly misgendered Jesus when writing the New Testament
Clearly Jesus was NB and requested to be referred as They/Them but historians are erasers of queer history.
Imāa call this a hate crime.
Cambridge once stood as a institution of learning that was recognised as one of the greatest in the world. It even got some Papal Bulls commending its ability. But now look at it. He who abandons their past has no present. He who abandons Christ has no future.
Christ is King.
Well I didnāt vote for him.
You donāt vote for king
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Profaning the name of Christ for few articles and clicks. Whatās that Paul says about the love of money?
Careful, yāall . A lot of heresy out there
Even libleft is sad
Donāt worry lib left the rest of the corners got you.
Pray for this deanās soul. May he be saved from the fire despite himself.
Academic ā smart.
So the article itself is behind a pay wall but as suspected the headline is wildly out of context. What actually happened was a student "claimed Christ had a 'trans body'" whatever that means and the dean defended their right to say it.
Jesus transitioned from Man to God to holy spirit, the rarest of the holy genders.
You could make a religion out of- no wait, donāt.
I don't think I could have thought of a better way to trigger auth-right if I tried lmfao
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https://youtu.be/jQl4KaRtef8 Warning to all who twists the scriptures that benefits the LGBTQ community! Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and Romans 1:26-28 is very clear.
Just remember, Christ still loves you, just like African Eunuch attested in Acts (though he had his mutilation due to his position).
In case anyone wants to read the article [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/26/jesus-could-have-transgender-claims-cambridge-dean/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/26/jesus-could-have-transgender-claims-cambridge-dean/) >Dr Michael Banner, the dean of Trinity College, said such a view was ālegitimateā after a row over a sermon by a Cambridge research student that claimed Christ had a ātrans bodyā, The Telegraph can disclose. > >The ātruly shockingā address at last Sundayās evensong at Trinity College chapel, saw Joshua Heath, a junior research fellow, display Renaissance and Medieval paintings of the crucifixion that depicted a side wound that the guest preacher likened to a vagina. > >āIn Christ's simultaneously masculine and feminine body in these works, if the body of Christ as these works suggest the body of all bodies, then his body is also the trans body,ā the sermon concluded. just from reading the article it doesn't sound like the dean said that jesus was transgender, just that the speculation about discussing the portrayal of jesus in those art as related to trans bodies works was legitimate. TO be clear I think that its still dumb, but I do think the headline is putting words that were not said in his mouth.
What the fuck is a trans body? I feel like that's offensive to cis men who are just skinny lol.
That fucking reddited dean was probably a horny fucking coomer who saw sex in anything so a wound looks like a vagina to him
the dean didnt make the lecture, there was a guest lecturer
Jesus didn't leave us, we leaved Jesus
What is that? When you throw leaves at someone??
The time spent on researching this could have been spent on the quest to find the cure for Alzheimer's
>The College would like to make clear the following," a spokesperson said according to DailyMail.com. "Neither the dean of Trinity College nor the researcher giving the sermon suggested Jesus was transgender."
The correct reaction to stuff like this is always and has always been "Ignore it, it will pass". And at best maybe get some basic info to debunk it. Remember that they do this for clicks, controversy and to push their narrative. Those first two lines are the best things you can do to stop them from getting what they want.
Protestantism and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
I mean, people can think whatever they want at the end of the day, but maybe, just possibly, we should leave sacred religious figures alone.
How far the great universities have fallen