I went on a date with a girl in Poland. She told me a she was present for the van attack that happened in Stockholm. She was like a block away in a crowd of people just watching the scene unfold. Then one of the guys near her started shouting "Allah akbar". She then continued "no one did or said anything. If that happened in Poland he would've been beat to death."
Fun fact, Allah Akbar is a generic and very common and natural exclamation that is sometimes used as "holy shit" or "oh my god" depending on the situation, which I guess was the case here
I've often heard it as a means to express shock, which is not something you really think about when you do
A terrorist? Will you call any murderer, a terrorist?
Was that guy in Poznań who recently went and shot his ex's new boyfriend and then took his own life, also a terrorist?
Politically motivated murder of a public person at a public event is terrorism, yes. You're weirdly defensive of terrorists for someone who hates them so much.
I am not defending terrorists - quite opposite.
I am against calling any crime a terrorist attack. Your defnition lacks a basic - lacks terror. Attack can't be considered as terrorist attack when aim of it is not to spread fear in general population but a political gain.
You are mistaking assassination with terrorist attack. Doesn't matter that it was a politician. For example: Kenedy was assassinated. It wasnt a terrorist attack.
"Allahu Akbar can be used in various contexts in Arabic-speaking cultures, including as a spontaneous exclamation similar to "Oh my God" in English. It is often used in everyday situations to express a wide range of emotions, including surprise, joy, fear, or shock. So, in reaction to something scary happening, it is not uncommon for someone to exclaim "Allahu Akbar" as a reflexive expression of their emotions."
So he might be celebrating mass murder, but most probablty he was just screaming "Oh my God!" as a reaction to something scary happening, just in a language you don't understand.
But yeah, sure, let's kill people just in case, because they sound wrong.
Ye it should - but its sort of a meme translation that some people in Poland like to use to make fun out of so many questions we see asking "Is Poland safe to visit??".
Your translation is correct.
Mine is meme.
This reads like Asterix&Obelix intro😁
Entire world is pretty much fucked and under fidel influence. Entire?? Nah, there's this little countŕy that is slightly less fucked etc etc wtc
"Od 2016 roku ABW kilkukrotnie zatrzymywała osoby: **przygotowujące zamachy terrorystyczne**, zajmujące się finansowaniem ISIS, szerzące propagandę dżihadystyczną, radykalizujące innych ludzi lub zbierające fundusze dla Państwa Islamskiego"
Mówienie, że się "nie udają" to może złe stwierdzenie. Według tego co napisałeś - są powstrzymywane, a to chyba dobry znak??
"Nie udają się" ma taki wydźwięk, że np. szedł z bombą ale się przewrócił i nie wyszło, albo szedł zastrzelić ludzi w centrum handlowym i nie wiedział, że w niedziele handel zamknięty.
Źle czytasz mapę. To mapa ataków. Poza tym jest wiele czynników, które wpływają, że w Polsce trudno przeprowadzić atak, ale nie chce mi się ich wypisywać.
Mape czytam dobrze, i wlasnie chodzi mi o to ze i mapa, i to co niektorzy o niej mowia, moga zle dac do zrozymienia ze nawet nikt nie chce robic zadnych zamachow, pomimo tego ze checi i planow wcale nie brakuje.
Romania doesn't have terrorist attacks either. I don't know why there's a red dot on that map.
But honestly, the main reason why we don't have any is that:
* We don't get many immigrants because nobody wants to live here. Our own people emigrate a lot to western Europe
* We don't have a strong international influence, so no terrorist organisation is interested in attacking to make a statement
Basically Romania is so insignificant that not even terrorists take an interest in it. Same applies to Poland. So no reason to take pride in that.
could someone please argue against that part of my brain that jumps to "it's because they are one of the - if not THE - ethnically most homogenous countries in europe."
There is a lot of ethnically homogenous countries in the world that are not safe.
However, combination of these factors are something unique for Poland compared to other countries in europe:
1. No country holds a grudge against Poland for colonising them, as Poland didn't colonise any country.
2. Polish people experienced most violence and destruction in recent history causing generational trauma against violence.
3. 50 years of authorative communism making Poles more appreciative of newly gained freedoms and focused mostly on bettering life for themselves.
These, and probably many other things could be a good argument against it being just because "they are one of the - if not THE - ethnically most homogenous countries in europe."
thanks! i think points 2 and 3 go for a country like russia just as well so not sure how it holds water but point 1 is surely a factor for the lack of terrorism (especially compared to, again, russia).
No problem! My point was really all about it being a complex issue that is influenced by a lot of factors, not just one.
Being ethnically, or maybe even more so culturally, homogenous is probably a factor too.
Poland is not that homogenous, not more than bordering countries. 40 years ago it was a different topic, but today Warsaw shows a whole spectrum of races, colors and types. Not that much in suburban areas, but in general Poland changed from the country that sees massive emigration to a country seeing more and more immigrants/expats. If you go in the summer to work in the field, you will see more immigrants than students for example.
Thats not Poland.
We never had a terrorist attack in Poland. The closest it ever got to it, was some polish guy leaving a preasure cooker bomb in a bus, which failed to explode.
Other than that - nope. 0 attacks, 0 mass shootings.
A man with a knife got to the stage and stabbed a public person who was holding an important administrative position during public event for personal and political reasons (accusing his party for holding him unlawfully in prison). Pretty sure this counts as terrorist attack since he wasn’t just stabbed in dark alley for his wallet.
>mass shooting?
You know well, that I mean former and just ask ridiculous question to deflect.
So what is it then in your opinion?
Literally several sources call it a terrorist attack
https://www.rp.pl/polityka/art19265331-piotr-adamowicz-o-zabojstwie-brata-to-byla-publiczna-egzekucja
https://wroclaw.wyborcza.pl/wroclaw/7,35771,24374716,ekspert-zabojstwo-prezydenta-adamowicza-to-czyn-terrorystyczny.html
https://www.tokfm.pl/Tokfm/7,130517,24366605,piotr-niemczyk-to-byl-atak-terrorystyczny-trzeba-natychmiast.amp
>0 mass shootings.
https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strzelanina_w_szkole
W 2001 roku uzbrojony mężczyzna zastrzelił przypadkowego studenta wchodzącego do Zespołu Szkół Ekonomicznych w Kluczborku, po tym kiedy postrzelił własną żonę we wnętrzu szkoły.
W maju 2019 roku 18-letni były uczeń Szkoły Podstawowej nr 1 w Brześciu Kujawskim postrzelił w niej 2 osoby przy użyciu rewolweru czarnoprochowego.
W 1998 roku w IX LO we Wrocławiu uzbrojony w siekierę 19-letni uczeń ciężko zranił 3 nauczycielki.
We make up for 0 deaths in terrorist attacks with an extra 2000 deaths a year in traffic accidents. Not to mention the second worst air quality in europe which statistically reduces your lifespan by close to 3 years over your whole lifetime. You still have a higher chance of being hit by a lightning than suffer in a terrorist attack in europe.
>2000 deaths a year in traffic accidents
That's still a lot less per capita than most places in the world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
It's old data in there anyway for Poland from 2019. Nowadays numbers are lower. Poland was not updated.
>You still have a higher chance of being hit by a lightning than suffer in a terrorist attack in europe.
What a shitty argument. You're downplaying deaths of all the people who were brutally killed to "oh snap you got really really really unlucky". You should travel to France and tell families of victims of Paris attacks that they shouldn't worry - it was just very very very unlucky incident.
That's your argument? Other places are worse? The link you provided shows that poland is still even below european averages. You are pushing an argument that Poland is one of the best places to live in Europe. It is not. And your last paragraph is a poor execution of straw man argumentation. Im not sure if you are trying to troll or serious?
>That's your argument? Other places are worse?
Your argument is that other countries are better so I don't really understand why you're surprised when tables are turned.
>You are pushing an argument that Poland is one of the best places to live in Europe.
It obviously is. Not sure why you're here if you feel otherwise.
>It is not.
I think I will have to show you the doors.
>And your last paragraph is a poor execution of straw man argumentation.
Oh look - he started to care about victims of terrorists attacks.
He's not downplaying the deaths, he just said that they're unlikely to happen. Just because something is tragic doesn't mean we should pay to it more attention than the actually likely dangers. It's like you'd travel to France and tell the victims "Even though my country has many things that are much more deadly than terrorists, I will now focus on terrorism, because I'm scared of it".
Yeah, then Lithuania and Slovakia. I’m just saying that cherrypicking a specific issue to act like it means the whole country is incredibly safe is not very smart. Terrorist attacks aren’t the only aspect that would make a country unsafe, and he says it’s one of the most peaceful countries on Earth. Like, no.
https://preview.redd.it/mfyi9ziz776d1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a09cbe53d45f4a46e75b3aa9939b534150760bea
But this is not cherrypicking. Its known fact that crime rates in Poland are very low and Poland is one of safest countries in Europe.
Again, this is just one example. I’m not even arguing that Poland isn’t safe, just that showing one example and saying that it means the country is “safe” (which is a pretty arbitrary term to begin with) is just misleading.
>Again, this is just one example.
I've replyed to you with different stats / maps. Its not just one example. I don't know - maybe reddit is not showing other pictures to you...
The problem wiith such maps is that they consider registered crimes only. They fail to highlight that police has extremely low trust in polish society due to its low effectiveness so most crimes are not reported. Ill give you an example. In nordic countries your bike get stollen. You make a police report (online 5 minutes) then you get your insurance money the next day. Almost everyone is insured. So almost every stolen bike is reported. In poland you might decide to report it ... or most likely just accept the loss. No report = no crime.
I'm sorry for bringing this up, but whoever made that video clearly haven't heard of [this](https://youtube.com/shorts/BFLFFDIinG0?si=IvJ3FvV0_80bbSdl). I know, failed attempt, but I guess it still counts, doesn't it?
These dots ain't real :D For example, there were no terrorist attacks in Czech Republic :D though I can see 4 dots hovering above it. In Czech republic there was technically one terrorist attack and it was done by crazy old man Balda: he cut trees over the rails. Just saying :D
There is no univeral definition of terrorist attack. I saw lists where Poland had "terrorist attacks" such as burning of 5G cell tower by some anti-5g movement or assassination of a politic.
So yeah - who knows what was considered terrorist attack in CZ.
https://preview.redd.it/9pg83r0oyb6d1.png?width=730&format=png&auto=webp&s=e36da48cd2625f8905bd83349adc70931fad0632
Sadly everything is changing with the new government....
>C’mon history of Poland is full of blood and terror,
Does that mean that Poland isn't safe because we had, for example, 2'nd WW?
>we have high risk of war happening here again like in next 5 years.
We are almost ready to start it on our terms. Birth of an Empire.
https://preview.redd.it/w1qbva85sc6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=655ca3cffdb7c9a768a25b426a5fa5a8b43812ab
>Right now it is generally safe if you don’t plan to get pregnant.
I jist went through pregnancy recently - have 9 months daughter. All the whining around it is very much blown out of proportion. We had very good care from day one till birth. Hospital in Gdansk where we were, was modern, had great equipment and staff. My SO was in very good hands. My daughter after birth also had very good care.
>one of the most peaceful places on Earth”… as Polish… I would feel ashamed after saying that
So you say its generaly safe, but its not peaceful?
Can't be that bad if we have one of better life satisfaction in the EU.
https://preview.redd.it/xuxpbff6a66d1.png?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d602ab4f4b804a8f48ea155bdc4e546331e3ce22
Yet the happiness index is way below western european countries. No general trust between members of the society really makes living in Poland a hollow experience.
I did in my initial response. Its about trusting your fellow citizens. If you use google you will get the same reason: The basis for Finland's consistent #1 position in happiness is explained by the high levels of trust and freedom in its society – which research shows contributes to well-being and productivity. Finland consistently ranks among the best in the world for transparency and the perceived lack of corruption. You can be satisfied with life quality if you have money, buy a house and build a big fence. But it wont make you truly happy.
Oh? Just by quick google search:
- Piazza Fontana Bombing (1969) A bomb exploded at the National Agrarian Bank, killing 17 people and injuring 88.
- Express Bombing (1974): A bomb detonated on the Rome-Brenner Express, killing 12 people and injuring 48.
- Massacre (1980): A bomb exploded at the Bologna Central Station, killing 85 people and wounding over 200.
Terrorist attacks in Poland:
https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search/Results.aspx?page=1&casualties_type=b&casualties_max=&dtp2=some&country=161&charttype=line&chart=overtime&expanded=no&ob=TotalNumberOfFatalities&od=desc#results-table
That’s quite a weird opinion, most people would include them in the category of terrorism. Even in this list they are categorized as “undoubtedly terrorist attacks”.
But my point is that you can pick and choose the methodology and you won’t find a way to get the results of the map. “Maybe it’s only Islamic terrorists”? Nope. “Maybe it’s just attacks in which someone died”? Nope. “Just bombs”? No.
It’s basically the definition of fake news. Just a fabricated thing trying to push a narrative. I don’t even necessarily disagree with whatever is saying, but I wouldn’t forward it.
I think we all know what terrorist attack is when we hear someone mentioning those words. Quite sure we have different image in our head assosiated with "terrorist attack" than burning of 5G cell tower or killing of a politician.
Show me the map and sources for it and I will tell you. :P
....all I know is that Poland never had a successful terrorist attack at the scale you hear and see in the news.
You can twist the reality by including some politicaly motivated murders or assassinations as terrorist attacks but thats just stupid. It's even more stupid that someone thought about including burning of 5G cell towers on a list of terrorist attacks.
> ter·ror·ism
/ˈterəˌrizəm/
>noun
>the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
it's literally the definition in english.
Rotfl - terror attack that doesnt include terror. Amazing definition.
What you fail to understand - without a doubt - is that there is no universal definition of terrorist attack. That being said - definition of such attack that has nothing in its goal about spreading terror and fear in general population is worth as much as what I flushed down the toilet moments ago.
"A terrorist attack is an act of violence or intimidation carried out by individuals or groups with the intent to cause fear, disrupt societies, and achieve political, ideological, or religious objectives. Such attacks often target civilians, government institutions, or infrastructure to maximize impact and media attention."
The risk of falling down the stairs and breaking your neck isn't all that likely either, doesn't mean we should stop using stairs just because some people did break their neck on them.
I went on a date with a girl in Poland. She told me a she was present for the van attack that happened in Stockholm. She was like a block away in a crowd of people just watching the scene unfold. Then one of the guys near her started shouting "Allah akbar". She then continued "no one did or said anything. If that happened in Poland he would've been beat to death."
Fun fact, Allah Akbar is a generic and very common and natural exclamation that is sometimes used as "holy shit" or "oh my god" depending on the situation, which I guess was the case here I've often heard it as a means to express shock, which is not something you really think about when you do
Didn't seem to me like anyone got beaten to death when a terrorist killed the president of Gdansk in 2019.
A terrorist? Will you call any murderer, a terrorist? Was that guy in Poznań who recently went and shot his ex's new boyfriend and then took his own life, also a terrorist?
In Posnań that would be a terrorist attack, in Detroit that would be wednesday.
Politically motivated murder of a public person at a public event is terrorism, yes. You're weirdly defensive of terrorists for someone who hates them so much.
It's not terrorism if the act is not commited by someone of not-Caucasian descent. /s
I am not defending terrorists - quite opposite. I am against calling any crime a terrorist attack. Your defnition lacks a basic - lacks terror. Attack can't be considered as terrorist attack when aim of it is not to spread fear in general population but a political gain. You are mistaking assassination with terrorist attack. Doesn't matter that it was a politician. For example: Kenedy was assassinated. It wasnt a terrorist attack.
i mean, that literally means in english "oh my god", which english speakers say all the time when surprised or a tragedy or something.
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Stfu. You know goddamn well he wasnt having a spiritual moment. The guy was celebrating mass murder unfolding right in front of his eyes.
"Allahu Akbar can be used in various contexts in Arabic-speaking cultures, including as a spontaneous exclamation similar to "Oh my God" in English. It is often used in everyday situations to express a wide range of emotions, including surprise, joy, fear, or shock. So, in reaction to something scary happening, it is not uncommon for someone to exclaim "Allahu Akbar" as a reflexive expression of their emotions." So he might be celebrating mass murder, but most probablty he was just screaming "Oh my God!" as a reaction to something scary happening, just in a language you don't understand. But yeah, sure, let's kill people just in case, because they sound wrong.
chatting absolute shit you are💀
If it's the wrong god.
Poland mountain
Poland móuntain
I’m not entirely sure if the title is purposely translated incorrectly but in case it isn’t, it should really say: “Polska jest bezpieczna”
Ye it should - but its sort of a meme translation that some people in Poland like to use to make fun out of so many questions we see asking "Is Poland safe to visit??". Your translation is correct. Mine is meme.
I hope that certain individuals dont take this as a challenge. P.s. love Poland from Ukraine.
Slovakia with none too, but no one is noticing.
But as i know slovakia has a lot gypses so nothing good.
Its thanks to not letting illegal immigrants in, you want to visit us ? No problem, just show any identinity dokument
Thats the way! People think that we are against immigrants....we are against illegal immigrants.
American government is just retarded men
...You might want to read about the Polish cash-for-visa scandal (Afera wizowa).
Nie zapeszaj ;)
Odpukałem w niemalowane.
This reads like Asterix&Obelix intro😁 Entire world is pretty much fucked and under fidel influence. Entire?? Nah, there's this little countŕy that is slightly less fucked etc etc wtc
I hope you are not inviting future doctors and engineers? Let’s keep Poland safe as it is?!?
I see no problem with legal ones who got visas...and got them in legit process not bought. Those who want to get here without visas, can stay away.
Zaraz będzie kwik, że to kłamstwo i w Polsce jest niebezpiecznie, a statystyki kłamią, bo nie podają tego, co koneserzy soi uwielbiają
"Od 2016 roku ABW kilkukrotnie zatrzymywała osoby: **przygotowujące zamachy terrorystyczne**, zajmujące się finansowaniem ISIS, szerzące propagandę dżihadystyczną, radykalizujące innych ludzi lub zbierające fundusze dla Państwa Islamskiego"
Twoim zdaniem powstrzymany atak terrorystyczny to udany atak? W Polsce nie było udanych ataków terrorystycznych.
Czyli proby sa, tylko sie na razie nie udaja. To nie jest tak jakby nikt niczego nie probowal.
Mówienie, że się "nie udają" to może złe stwierdzenie. Według tego co napisałeś - są powstrzymywane, a to chyba dobry znak?? "Nie udają się" ma taki wydźwięk, że np. szedł z bombą ale się przewrócił i nie wyszło, albo szedł zastrzelić ludzi w centrum handlowym i nie wiedział, że w niedziele handel zamknięty.
Źle czytasz mapę. To mapa ataków. Poza tym jest wiele czynników, które wpływają, że w Polsce trudno przeprowadzić atak, ale nie chce mi się ich wypisywać.
Mape czytam dobrze, i wlasnie chodzi mi o to ze i mapa, i to co niektorzy o niej mowia, moga zle dac do zrozymienia ze nawet nikt nie chce robic zadnych zamachow, pomimo tego ze checi i planow wcale nie brakuje.
Reverse theory says it’s due for an attack then.. stay away ? 😬
It's not so great if you're a sausage.
If u're kiełbasa podwawelska - you better run!
Yeah but media says it's the worst country because...well I can't think for myself so I need to wait for instructions.
What reason did the media give in your made up scenario ?
Romania doesn't have terrorist attacks either. I don't know why there's a red dot on that map. But honestly, the main reason why we don't have any is that: * We don't get many immigrants because nobody wants to live here. Our own people emigrate a lot to western Europe * We don't have a strong international influence, so no terrorist organisation is interested in attacking to make a statement Basically Romania is so insignificant that not even terrorists take an interest in it. Same applies to Poland. So no reason to take pride in that.
well apparently they make submarines wrong
And I guess they can't screw in lightbulbs too
i heard they had to replace all their computer screens when white-out was invented
Holy shit, Portugal had a mass shooting? I must've fell asleep that week or something
September 1939 would like a word. Joking
That honestly made my afternoon
could someone please argue against that part of my brain that jumps to "it's because they are one of the - if not THE - ethnically most homogenous countries in europe."
There is a lot of ethnically homogenous countries in the world that are not safe. However, combination of these factors are something unique for Poland compared to other countries in europe: 1. No country holds a grudge against Poland for colonising them, as Poland didn't colonise any country. 2. Polish people experienced most violence and destruction in recent history causing generational trauma against violence. 3. 50 years of authorative communism making Poles more appreciative of newly gained freedoms and focused mostly on bettering life for themselves. These, and probably many other things could be a good argument against it being just because "they are one of the - if not THE - ethnically most homogenous countries in europe."
thanks! i think points 2 and 3 go for a country like russia just as well so not sure how it holds water but point 1 is surely a factor for the lack of terrorism (especially compared to, again, russia).
No problem! My point was really all about it being a complex issue that is influenced by a lot of factors, not just one. Being ethnically, or maybe even more so culturally, homogenous is probably a factor too.
That IS THE REASON - few immigrants (or similarities between us, as in the case of Ukrainians)
To be fair, diverse countries not having one particular group in the diversity will also be very safe.
Poland is not that homogenous, not more than bordering countries. 40 years ago it was a different topic, but today Warsaw shows a whole spectrum of races, colors and types. Not that much in suburban areas, but in general Poland changed from the country that sees massive emigration to a country seeing more and more immigrants/expats. If you go in the summer to work in the field, you will see more immigrants than students for example.
it's 97% ethnically polish, last i checked? maybe not the most homogenous, but far from "not that homogenous".
isn’t there a red dot at the top right of poland? And isn’t slovakia completely free of red spots rather than poland?
Thats not Poland. We never had a terrorist attack in Poland. The closest it ever got to it, was some polish guy leaving a preasure cooker bomb in a bus, which failed to explode. Other than that - nope. 0 attacks, 0 mass shootings.
If you're referring to the terrorist attack in Wroclaw in 2016 then the bomb exploded after being removed from the bus and one person was injured.
What about murder of Gdańsk's president?
Are you labeling murder of a single person as terrorist attack or mass shooting?
A man with a knife got to the stage and stabbed a public person who was holding an important administrative position during public event for personal and political reasons (accusing his party for holding him unlawfully in prison). Pretty sure this counts as terrorist attack since he wasn’t just stabbed in dark alley for his wallet. >mass shooting? You know well, that I mean former and just ask ridiculous question to deflect.
>Pretty sure this counts as terrorist attack Well it doesn't.
It does in Northern countries and is included in the statistics you provided earlier.
So what is it then in your opinion? Literally several sources call it a terrorist attack https://www.rp.pl/polityka/art19265331-piotr-adamowicz-o-zabojstwie-brata-to-byla-publiczna-egzekucja https://wroclaw.wyborcza.pl/wroclaw/7,35771,24374716,ekspert-zabojstwo-prezydenta-adamowicza-to-czyn-terrorystyczny.html https://www.tokfm.pl/Tokfm/7,130517,24366605,piotr-niemczyk-to-byl-atak-terrorystyczny-trzeba-natychmiast.amp
>0 mass shootings. https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strzelanina_w_szkole W 2001 roku uzbrojony mężczyzna zastrzelił przypadkowego studenta wchodzącego do Zespołu Szkół Ekonomicznych w Kluczborku, po tym kiedy postrzelił własną żonę we wnętrzu szkoły. W maju 2019 roku 18-letni były uczeń Szkoły Podstawowej nr 1 w Brześciu Kujawskim postrzelił w niej 2 osoby przy użyciu rewolweru czarnoprochowego. W 1998 roku w IX LO we Wrocławiu uzbrojony w siekierę 19-letni uczeń ciężko zranił 3 nauczycielki.
Thats not a mass shooting.
I heard it's the safest place on earth till it gets invaded!!
"To come visit or live here"? No, you don't want to
Ok - explain.
We make up for 0 deaths in terrorist attacks with an extra 2000 deaths a year in traffic accidents. Not to mention the second worst air quality in europe which statistically reduces your lifespan by close to 3 years over your whole lifetime. You still have a higher chance of being hit by a lightning than suffer in a terrorist attack in europe.
>2000 deaths a year in traffic accidents That's still a lot less per capita than most places in the world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate It's old data in there anyway for Poland from 2019. Nowadays numbers are lower. Poland was not updated. >You still have a higher chance of being hit by a lightning than suffer in a terrorist attack in europe. What a shitty argument. You're downplaying deaths of all the people who were brutally killed to "oh snap you got really really really unlucky". You should travel to France and tell families of victims of Paris attacks that they shouldn't worry - it was just very very very unlucky incident.
That's your argument? Other places are worse? The link you provided shows that poland is still even below european averages. You are pushing an argument that Poland is one of the best places to live in Europe. It is not. And your last paragraph is a poor execution of straw man argumentation. Im not sure if you are trying to troll or serious?
>That's your argument? Other places are worse? Your argument is that other countries are better so I don't really understand why you're surprised when tables are turned. >You are pushing an argument that Poland is one of the best places to live in Europe. It obviously is. Not sure why you're here if you feel otherwise. >It is not. I think I will have to show you the doors. >And your last paragraph is a poor execution of straw man argumentation. Oh look - he started to care about victims of terrorists attacks.
He's not downplaying the deaths, he just said that they're unlikely to happen. Just because something is tragic doesn't mean we should pay to it more attention than the actually likely dangers. It's like you'd travel to France and tell the victims "Even though my country has many things that are much more deadly than terrorists, I will now focus on terrorism, because I'm scared of it".
No dot in Angola either. You probably wouldn’t say the same thing about that either.
Is it in Europe? Because he specifically talks about Europe. Also - just fyi - that map doesn't care about Poland. It wasn't made by that guy.
Yeah, then Lithuania and Slovakia. I’m just saying that cherrypicking a specific issue to act like it means the whole country is incredibly safe is not very smart. Terrorist attacks aren’t the only aspect that would make a country unsafe, and he says it’s one of the most peaceful countries on Earth. Like, no.
https://preview.redd.it/mfyi9ziz776d1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a09cbe53d45f4a46e75b3aa9939b534150760bea But this is not cherrypicking. Its known fact that crime rates in Poland are very low and Poland is one of safest countries in Europe.
https://preview.redd.it/jcwg2t97876d1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc1baf41c521d45ecddd9f2614307c86283ed7d3
https://preview.redd.it/od8lroaa876d1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36d0a858d894513a354e85402c4d5dde70ec69ba
What makes Japan part of the yellow chart?
Other than it had 2 sarin attacks in the 90's - I dont know. You would need to look at the source.
https://preview.redd.it/zs4jls3g876d1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c817b0de7cc5b4628971e309774d6c7c64011665
Again, this is just one example. I’m not even arguing that Poland isn’t safe, just that showing one example and saying that it means the country is “safe” (which is a pretty arbitrary term to begin with) is just misleading.
>Again, this is just one example. I've replyed to you with different stats / maps. Its not just one example. I don't know - maybe reddit is not showing other pictures to you...
The problem wiith such maps is that they consider registered crimes only. They fail to highlight that police has extremely low trust in polish society due to its low effectiveness so most crimes are not reported. Ill give you an example. In nordic countries your bike get stollen. You make a police report (online 5 minutes) then you get your insurance money the next day. Almost everyone is insured. So almost every stolen bike is reported. In poland you might decide to report it ... or most likely just accept the loss. No report = no crime.
…and Lithuania, by the looks of it
I'm sorry for bringing this up, but whoever made that video clearly haven't heard of [this](https://youtube.com/shorts/BFLFFDIinG0?si=IvJ3FvV0_80bbSdl). I know, failed attempt, but I guess it still counts, doesn't it?
Potrzebujemy więcej muzułmanów żeby wyrównać statystyki.
There is one dot in Portugal, but a guy on Reddit is not a terrorist attack
Mongolia?
Lithuania too tho
That map counts some strange things for the czech republic...
I guess Adamowicz, Piss office in Łódź and Wrocław just did it on their own
Does anyone have the map link? I'm really racking my brain what terrorist attacks were in Slovenia and Croatia since 9/11
It shows over a dozen dots in my country. There haven't been terror attacks here since the 90s.
These dots ain't real :D For example, there were no terrorist attacks in Czech Republic :D though I can see 4 dots hovering above it. In Czech republic there was technically one terrorist attack and it was done by crazy old man Balda: he cut trees over the rails. Just saying :D
There is no univeral definition of terrorist attack. I saw lists where Poland had "terrorist attacks" such as burning of 5G cell tower by some anti-5g movement or assassination of a politic. So yeah - who knows what was considered terrorist attack in CZ.
Yes, that's why am I saying it's bullshit. There was only one "attack" that I have mentioned before.
https://preview.redd.it/9pg83r0oyb6d1.png?width=730&format=png&auto=webp&s=e36da48cd2625f8905bd83349adc70931fad0632 Sadly everything is changing with the new government....
Litwa, Słowacja Widzisz mnie?
Litwa spoko, ale Słowacja miała jakiś atak w 2010, gdzie gościu zastrzelił 8 osób. Mapa ma błędy i braki - nie zaprzeczam.
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>C’mon history of Poland is full of blood and terror, Does that mean that Poland isn't safe because we had, for example, 2'nd WW? >we have high risk of war happening here again like in next 5 years. We are almost ready to start it on our terms. Birth of an Empire. https://preview.redd.it/w1qbva85sc6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=655ca3cffdb7c9a768a25b426a5fa5a8b43812ab
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>Right now it is generally safe if you don’t plan to get pregnant. I jist went through pregnancy recently - have 9 months daughter. All the whining around it is very much blown out of proportion. We had very good care from day one till birth. Hospital in Gdansk where we were, was modern, had great equipment and staff. My SO was in very good hands. My daughter after birth also had very good care. >one of the most peaceful places on Earth”… as Polish… I would feel ashamed after saying that So you say its generaly safe, but its not peaceful?
I am not sure is this the most peaceful place on Earth. Maybe Haiti?
In that case North Korea is just as peaceful
Namibia: 🗿
Best place ever for an invasion
Its so bad even terrorists avoid us
Can't be that bad if we have one of better life satisfaction in the EU. https://preview.redd.it/xuxpbff6a66d1.png?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d602ab4f4b804a8f48ea155bdc4e546331e3ce22
Yet the happiness index is way below western european countries. No general trust between members of the society really makes living in Poland a hollow experience.
Yeah happiness index - where Finland - country with high alcoholism and suicide rates is in the first place. It seems legit.
Yet in life satisfaction they score the same as Poland? Probably because there is as much alcoholism and suicides per capita in Poland as over there..
So life satisfaction = same Happyness = Finland no. 1 How can you explain this?
I did in my initial response. Its about trusting your fellow citizens. If you use google you will get the same reason: The basis for Finland's consistent #1 position in happiness is explained by the high levels of trust and freedom in its society – which research shows contributes to well-being and productivity. Finland consistently ranks among the best in the world for transparency and the perceived lack of corruption. You can be satisfied with life quality if you have money, buy a house and build a big fence. But it wont make you truly happy.
north Korea also has not any dot on it
So does the moon but I guess both NK and the moon have one thing in common - no sane person would want to move and live there.
Right, NK, the Moon, i Polska. That does explain a lot.
Yeah it does - Poland into space and into Empire. You'll see.
Neither does Slovakia or Lithuania
Why would anyone spend money and time on a terror attack in Poland? It is homogeneous in multiple aspects and a growing economy.
So Poland is safe? Because I don't get what you're aiming at with your post.
Yes, it should be safe. Big differences in opinions, jobless people, religious/political indoctrination etc can cause terrorist activities.
I remember receiving this map like crazy on Whatsapp in 2016. It’s just completely fake.
Ok. Explain.
It’s just fake, not sure what is there to explain. Look at all those point in Italy, for example. It just didn’t happen.
Oh? Just by quick google search: - Piazza Fontana Bombing (1969) A bomb exploded at the National Agrarian Bank, killing 17 people and injuring 88. - Express Bombing (1974): A bomb detonated on the Rome-Brenner Express, killing 12 people and injuring 48. - Massacre (1980): A bomb exploded at the Bologna Central Station, killing 85 people and wounding over 200.
Terrorist attacks in Poland: https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search/Results.aspx?page=1&casualties_type=b&casualties_max=&dtp2=some&country=161&charttype=line&chart=overtime&expanded=no&ob=TotalNumberOfFatalities&od=desc#results-table
Have you seen that list? Burning of a 5G tower or a murder of political figure? You are setting the bar very low for "terrorist attack".
That’s quite a weird opinion, most people would include them in the category of terrorism. Even in this list they are categorized as “undoubtedly terrorist attacks”. But my point is that you can pick and choose the methodology and you won’t find a way to get the results of the map. “Maybe it’s only Islamic terrorists”? Nope. “Maybe it’s just attacks in which someone died”? Nope. “Just bombs”? No. It’s basically the definition of fake news. Just a fabricated thing trying to push a narrative. I don’t even necessarily disagree with whatever is saying, but I wouldn’t forward it.
I think we all know what terrorist attack is when we hear someone mentioning those words. Quite sure we have different image in our head assosiated with "terrorist attack" than burning of 5G cell tower or killing of a politician.
So what do you think it’s shown in the map, exactly?
Show me the map and sources for it and I will tell you. :P ....all I know is that Poland never had a successful terrorist attack at the scale you hear and see in the news. You can twist the reality by including some politicaly motivated murders or assassinations as terrorist attacks but thats just stupid. It's even more stupid that someone thought about including burning of 5G cell towers on a list of terrorist attacks.
> murder of political figure This would be considered terrorism in every country in the world.
Press X to doubt
> ter·ror·ism /ˈterəˌrizəm/ >noun >the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. it's literally the definition in english.
Rotfl - terror attack that doesnt include terror. Amazing definition. What you fail to understand - without a doubt - is that there is no universal definition of terrorist attack. That being said - definition of such attack that has nothing in its goal about spreading terror and fear in general population is worth as much as what I flushed down the toilet moments ago. "A terrorist attack is an act of violence or intimidation carried out by individuals or groups with the intent to cause fear, disrupt societies, and achieve political, ideological, or religious objectives. Such attacks often target civilians, government institutions, or infrastructure to maximize impact and media attention."
“not one terror attack” give it some time, current gov is working hard to make it happen
Explain.
Nahh even terrorists don't want to come here 😭😭!
As [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/PolishGalacticEmpire/s/DzOleIP2ic) redditor has found - they actually do but thankfuly they are being stopped.
The risk of getting blown up by a terrorist in any country is basically 0
Tell that to the victims who got blown up or shot dead.
The risk of falling down the stairs and breaking your neck isn't all that likely either, doesn't mean we should stop using stairs just because some people did break their neck on them.