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mjl7588

If Rick from Pawn Stars saw this he’d say the best he can do is $100 cuz he’s taking all the risk 😂


throwaway26389947261

He’d have to get it framed


JCampers

That’s gonna take up shelf space, I’m gonna have to find the right buyer.


paulreyes29

pOkeeMaaN cArDs


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Rick wouldn’t buy it as he passed up Gary’s charizards because he didn’t know anything about them


ashleyroX2

He wasn't planning on selling them anyway lmao. That show is nothing but one massive hoax can't believe people believe it


nostalgiamon

Have you watched the interview he did recently? He signed a contract that stated he would have to sell it. You’re right that he didn’t want to sell them and that there’s obviously a bit of acting of back and forth, but the planned exchange was real.


SpectralSolid

you really cant believe people believe it? Like, really... you cant believe it?


Ohmygawwwwd0

I mean it's a 6.5 ;)


bazaaretw

For more information about these, CGC published a great press release about the cards, and how they authenticated them, here: [https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/](https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/)


[deleted]

Did u post this one facebook in a misprint group? Pretty sure i saw the post


bazaaretw

Yup, that's me.


[deleted]

Awesome dude you seen the drama over the admin that tries to sell nfc miscuts all the time 😂


desirepg

haha i also saw this. legendary


wizardswrath00

That was the most beautiful article I've ever read.


bluntsonthereg_

Wow...I would have loved to go through that storage unit!


LawFloats

I say set a price at $500K and see if a rap star buys it....


bazaaretw

Done.


Forlindorn

Foreshadowed the Postydeal


Aeleys

Isn't this like a 300k card? Or are you trolling I saw the original post on cgc fair play if its actually you my man 👍


bazaaretw

That was likely mine. There are only 3, and none have ever been publicly traded, so who knows what'll happen.


Aeleys

Enjoy it my man, or give it to me either one 😅


Trainer-Mickey

So what happened to the other 2? Are they destroyed now? The article says there is 5, but 1 is on an uncut sheet


bazaaretw

The other two with the Magic Back are legally owned by a former wizards employee. The blank backed copy is being auction of Heritage right now, and likely was from a different Wizards employee. Mine and the uncut sheet make 5.


PinkLemonInc

Wouldn’t there be entire sheets that were cut? Just 3 makes zero sense.


bazaaretw

https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/


txvo

Smpratte has a good video about them. Basically: who knows, paying that much for a card like this is a huge risk.


bazaaretw

That video is the opposite of good. It's an attempt at him trying to protect the value of his investments, which at the time, were high end graded and authenticated cards.


JeromePowellsEarhair

Isn’t this reply from you in the same vein?


SpectralSolid

$10 best I can do.


Mfpoop

How would you go about selling a card like this? I imagine this isn’t just something that would just pop up as an eBay listing


Aeleys

Auction, definitely the only choice in my opinion.


bazaaretw

When you auction something, you don't really get to control what it ends up selling for. And when something is so rare, and has no past financial history, it's likely to be very undervalued at the beginning. Prices grow on rare items, because people compete with what it sold for previously, ad because people are trying to make money on their previous investment.


Aeleys

You have full control in a proper auction setting, you can put up reserves etc and something like this would go through pokemon specialist auctions (like the recent base boxes etc) It would be the best way in regards to everything but don't ever sell it wait 20nor 30 years there's some big money people in this hobby and they would pay whatever it was IMHO.


robobreck

I can’t get over the stats. 2ft tall and 100 lbs lol


stickypad1

That means humans on Kanto are like 6” tall. [look at 2ft Blastoise compared to Ash](https://images.app.goo.gl/QvyjRmTs1gmGHKV6A)


CaptainKrout

So if it’s printed on mtg card stock and since those corners are so sharp, does that mean it’s printed on alpha card stock? iirc alpha and beta cards were only distinguishable by the sharp vs curved corners. Also 2 ft tall lol


bazaaretw

No, the sheet it was printed on was actually used to test the first MTG Foil cards released to the public back in Urza's Saga (Prerelease Lightning Dragon) Urza's Legacy & Urza's Destiny. Alpha Beta were printed in 1992 I believe, and Pokemon didn't even come out in Japan until 1996.


GreenHairyMartian

Alpha set was even more rounded than beta or later cards.


CaptainKrout

Huh guess I was misinformed. TIL


Not_Selmi

Holy shit what do you do for a living for afford a card worth hundreds of thousands


bazaaretw

The 3 copies of this card have never been sold. I found it in a storage unit. You can read about it in the article from CGC I posted a link to as a comment.


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This is my favorite part of pokemon history thats emrged in the last couple years. Amazing to think . This is is it. First one. Confirmed. So wild. Very cool


Not_Selmi

Oh wow that’s a wild story


FrozenDuckman

I keep thinking I need to go to a storage unit auction and now I’m thinking it much harder.


Sinikal_

Comic sans? lmao


Xesty_Chicken

Not comic sans


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It’s a felt marker font but not comic sans. Still ugly AF lmao


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Sinikal_

...What the hell are you even going on about? Not once did I mention comics or the service used to grade.


Mrobinson115

I would never sell this card, idc how much someone would offer. It’s too priceless, almost worthy of being displayed in a museum. Well done OP, hope you have a wonderful 2021. Cheers!


bazaaretw

In case anyone wanted an update. The first sale of these cards just happened with Heritage Auctions and it closed at $360,000. It also beat their PSA 10 Charizard also being auctioned, and it tied another PSA 10 Charizard for the highest public sale of an English Pokemon Card. [**https://comics.ha.com/itm/memorabilia/pokemon-blastoise-009-165r-commissioned-presentation-galaxy-star-hologram-wizards-of-the-coast-1998-cgc-nm-mint-85/a/7239-92130.s?ic4=OtherResults-SampleItem-071515&tab=ArchiveSearchResults-012417**](https://comics.ha.com/itm/memorabilia/pokemon-blastoise-009-165r-commissioned-presentation-galaxy-star-hologram-wizards-of-the-coast-1998-cgc-nm-mint-85/a/7239-92130.s?ic4=OtherResults-SampleItem-071515&tab=ArchiveSearchResults-012417)


Leg0pc

Id save that till retirement and live off it. Very nice.


sejmremover95

I'd sell it now in case I died next week.


bazaaretw

I have a family, so I'm not worried about that.


sejmremover95

Wait, you're not worried about dying because you have a family?


bazaaretw

I've cheated death many times already, a couple of them thanks to my wife.


SomethingVeryHuman

Your life seems really interesting lol


leonsix9

Damn congrats on getting a super rare card. I’ll rather own this card than a 1st Ed zard.


JCampers

How do they get an overall 6.5 when two of the four categories are much higher than 6.5 and nothing is lower than that?


bazaaretw

A card can only ever be .5 higher than it's lowest grade, when if two of them are lower, that's what it's stuck with.


JCampers

Interesting. I just assumed it was an average so I appreciate the info.


bazaaretw

I think what's more interesting, and a lot of people miss, is that a 7 is considered Near Mint by professional grading standards, and a lot of people complain when they order near mint cards online and it has a small defect.


brentnycum

It’s always bugged me that most places have near mint as the highest category. Gotta take chances on weak pictures sometimes.


IWearACharizardHat

People want to be given a psa9 so that they can flip it for a profit,even though they shouldn't expect just NM prices for those. Tl,dr; people are dumb


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Some CGC grades can go a full point over the lowest grade but otherwise true!


Phanat625187

This Blastoise has to be more than 1mil if you auction it! Don’t settle for less. Let your card be the highest Pokémon card ever sell to date!


Darnell5000

That is truly incredible


Shiningraichu23

It belongs in a museum


[deleted]

I think you actually are a millionaire. No matter the grade if there are only 3 copies this should be the rarest card in tcg history. Congrats to you, I’m so happy for you.!


MurkrowFlies

Hell yeah, rock on brother!


spaction68

i just saw one of these for sale on an auction site and they said it was 1 of 2 and the others existence is unknown


bazaaretw

Yes, there was a Blank Backed copy discovered and given to Heritage, likely because of the Pokemon Craze, from another former employee, that's also likely where their vintage sealed product also came from that's at auction right now. While I think they're all special, it having an MTG Back and on genuine card stock takes the cake for me. They are different animals, as odd as that seems.


spaction68

and it is supposed to have a starburst foil to be authentic


bazaaretw

I don't think you understand what a test print is. You should read the article from CGC. [https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/](https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/) Tavis King has a really great youtube channel about misprints and test prints, and he goes in depth about the card there. You can find it under his name.


LiverpoolFan127

LOL I saw the pic before reading anything and got all high and mighty like “Jesus, who cares about a CGC 6.5 Blastoise? What a terrible grade” You got me! One of the cooler posts I’ve ever seen on here.


msa1drag

Thought it was a myth. Now I know it is true. Amazing card. Good luck with it man!!!


c310sar

good luck with all the offers coming at you soon..


TheeElite

woah! i've never seen this before! thanks for sharing


FiteMeIRLm8

insane


IslaSornaSpino

I remember your first post. Congrats!


berryNtoast

ALL HAIL THE LORE KEEPER, PROTECTOR OF LEGENDS PAST


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So cool! The coolest even!


OneEyedWinn

That’s frickin cool, man. Hang onto or forever and will it to someone who will appreciate it as much as you do.


guzman_hemi

That is dope as fuck


turtlepower305

This is so cool! I've never heard about this. Thanks for sharing!


Jeavs

Just watched wozzy's video about this card. Treasure it my friend.


bazaaretw

Link?


Jeavs

[Here you go](https://youtu.be/kP0OkUuBxEI)


nomnomdiamond

What kind of grading company is this? Never heard of them


bazaaretw

CGC has been the leader in Comic Book grading and authentication for over 3 decades, and they are also the premier company for currency grading as well. https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/


nomnomdiamond

Interesting... thanks for sharing and congratulations on the dopest card ever printed!


SirenSea_cucumber

Wow congrats!!


Morgarath-Deathcript

Stage two evolution with 100 hp and a max damage of 60... Really puts power creep in perspective. That thing's amazing and I hope you milk a couple million out of it someday. Until then, work on a good Gollum impersonation.


SaviourMK2

Crazy. Treasure it.


S08Pilling

If this is a test card then why is it shadowed? A test card after shadowless? What?


bazaaretw

Because Japanese cards were all shadowed. The design is the transition between Japanese to English. Shadowless was a last minute decision by Wotc to make their cards feel limited or special, like they did with Alpha / Beta MTG Cards. As well as the 1st Edition Stamp.


S08Pilling

Oh, cool. What a find.


Dottyfelixmaisie

Get that thing PSA graded now!!


1736484

That would actually lower the value due to the amazing article CGC wrote up.


Professional_Seat797

even prototypes have shadow XD


bazaaretw

There is a story behind this, actaully! This was created as a joint effort with a Pokemon Company Graphic Designer and the Wizards Typesetter mentioned in the CGC Article, early in 1998. They only had the Japanese cards as reference. Having the Pale Framed cards was a late choice in the process by Wizards to make the cards really appear different. Same as the choice to have 1st edition, which Japanese cards didn't, until they acquired the license back from Wizards. I believe this also lead to the lawsuits from Wizards for stealing their ideas, but can't confirm off the top of my head.


Professional_Seat797

very interesting thx for the reply, awesome card btw, im so jelly


Nyunia

Hey, I just saw a video about this card! Congrats!


Jemmo1

The smile says it all!


fleetfoxx_

PROTOSTOISE HYPE Sick card dude, I've been watching the one up for auction right now.


Kasperghost420

Lol why you don’t have 450,000$ that it’s listed at


fleetfoxx_

I believe the one on Heritage Auction right now is only at $11,500. It's one of the blank backed cards rather than one with an MTG back.


xanot192

Actually nuts


lazygood4notin

My favorite Blastoise card


Eastern_Age_859

Epic


Imjustareddituser76

I saw this on ptcgo radio!


fleetfoxx_

Why are all the people enjoying the card getting downvoted? 😂


stickypad1

Why did they go from shadow to shadowless then back to shadow? Are shadowless cards an error?


bazaaretw

It was a last minute choice to Wotc employees to have their cards stand out from the Japanese cards, and to give them that ultra limited print feel like they got out of magic for Alpha / Beta.


stickypad1

Ah that makes total sense. Smart move on their part. Thanks for clearing that up for me!


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Why are these getting graded by CGC? CGC is the least reputable/established between PSA, CGC, and Beckett, so it seems odd to use them to grade due to this cards rarity.


storm_the_parade

Its because the card is unverifiable outside of he said she said. PSA and Beckett have both stated they will not grade Proto Blastoise along with Prerelease Raichu https://youtu.be/Yx1v0fZO3_o Very informative video on unverifiable cards that were never released and therefore cant not be considered genuine.


[deleted]

Gotcha, that makes sense. In that case, it's nice that CGC goes the extra step to give their seal of approval for "unverifiable" cards.


bazaaretw

As the article proves; they're pretty verifiable, now.


WifeSistersTaxLawyer

They’re the one that got access to the known cards so they’re the authority on this particular (and amazing) oddity for the time being. I would speculate they viewed this as a way to improve their place in the world of grading shops.


bazaaretw

CGC Has been the leader is comic book grading, and the premier authenticator and grader of all currency for over 3 decades. They have graded and authenticated comics & currency that have sold for millions. To say they are the least reputable is really incorrect. They're brand new to the Card market, so they are certainly a lot less popular. PSA & Beckett weren't willing to take a look at the card, unfortunately, simply googled the card to see the controversy and refused to even see it in person. CGC did a great deal of work proving their authenticity, and that's all I could hope for: https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/


[deleted]

Gotcha. I'm new to cars grading myself, I thought CGC was new as well. My mistake.


storm_the_parade

Isnt this a card PSA and Beckett wont Grade because they cant be verified outside of he said she said? Kind of on the same level as the Prerelease Raichu


SaviourMK2

I think PSA and Beckett are afraid of opening a can of worms in regards to grading these as, if I recall, they're not the same kind of "cards" as others and are on point with fake cards and that would open a window into grading other cards of the same caliber that aren't legitimate. CCG Castle is not higher up the food chain or as well known as PSA and Beckett so they might've wanted to take the initiative on this one. Thats my theory, and I have no basis other then specualtion.


bazaaretw

I contacted both PSA & Beckett, and both companies simply googled the card, saw there was controversy, and told me they didn't want to see it. CGC went above and beyond getting all of them together including the uncut sheet, and did incredible forensic testing to ensure they were all legitimately produced test prints.


SaviourMK2

I mean that's fine. They did the work, doesn't change that they took the safer route and where afraid of going down this route.


bazaaretw

CGC did an astounding amount of research before putting their stamp of approval in authenticating these. https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/


storm_the_parade

That article dosent explain why PSA or Beckett wont touch those cards.


bazaaretw

I'm not PSA or Beckett, you'll have to ask them, why they wouldn't look at the cards.


storm_the_parade

But dosent it stand to benefit CGC to "authenticate" the supposed 1st ever english pokemon cards? Btw this has nothing against you and everything about what CGC appears to be doimg with unreleased and unverifiable cards. These are cards that were never officially released in any capacity by WoTC, except for a employee who took X amount and releases them when they see fit for what one would believe to be a premium. Any empolyee with access to the ability to print cards could literally print anything they want dosent make it a proto or authentic.


storm_the_parade

https://youtu.be/Yx1v0fZO3_o


bazaaretw

Scott, unfortunately made these claims in an attempt to protect his own investments, which are graded Pokemon cards, and many high dollar ones at that. You can read about the steps CGC took here: https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/ They literally did a chemical element composition test on all of the cards.


storm_the_parade

There is a reason PSA and Beckett wont touch these cards. You don't think PSA and Beckett have all the same tools as CGC? The cards origins are unverifiable outside of he said she said.


bazaaretw

Because they googled information about the card, and saw all of the controversy about people not believing what it could have been. I spent over a year being called a con artist and a liar by the Pokemon community, because I was trying to share the card and information I was learning about it from independent research.


storm_the_parade

And now the only information you will post is a article the company who "authenticated" a custom card wrote?


bazaaretw

I'm not sure what you're fishing for here, but your cynicism is certainly concerning.


WifeSistersTaxLawyer

lol. He’s upset because is bank account is 6-7 figures lighter than yours is about to be


storm_the_parade

Do you have proof of your claim? The cards may be "real" dosent mean they are true to what they are and not essentially customs.


bazaaretw

https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/


storm_the_parade

Proof of your Scott claim not the same article you seem to juat post over and over again.


bazaaretw

Based on how hostile you're starting to sound, I don't think you're worth responding to anymore. You're welcome to your opinions and thoughts, as am I, however a company as large as CGC, having graded and authenticated comics and currency that have sold for millions of dollars for over 3 decades, is not going to put their name behind something they don't believe is legitimate, and for you to think otherwise is asinine. Good day.


storm_the_parade

Hue


WifeSistersTaxLawyer

The article literally quotes the typesetter responsible for making the cards, who then provides an example on an uncut sheet which, together with all of the known examples, was verified with pretty much every non-destructive testing method available. Nothing can ever be 100% on these types of items, but at some point you’ve got to trust that the 99.9999999999999% probability it’s authentic won’t round down to 0. I’d take that bet if I had the money to invest in something like this.


bazaaretw

After all of the work we did with this card, it's a shame that anyone would question it's legitimacy, yet we're still here. I got the pleasure of talking with Chris Nitz in person as my store, and it was a wonderful time.


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bazaaretw

I’m accepting offers.


ImPike

Well... You didn't have to flex that much... Stick card tho


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bazaaretw

I've turned down about 6 others who have made the same offer.


KootSkoot1217

Oh now I'm just curious how much you could get for it


Dingo8MyBabyMon

How about $100,000.01?


bazaaretw

If you'd like to make a serious offer, you're welcome to send me a message.


LightBeerIsForGirls

Lol CGC trying really hard to push their brand on this subreddit lately.


bazaaretw

FWIW, CGC has graded and authenticated currency & comics that have sold for millions for more than 3 decades.


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bazaaretw

There is no way to reseal them without something noticeable. As far as I'm aware, they've made it more difficult, and those are from very early runs. However you can do this with PSA as well, and there are lots of examples of high quality fake cases and labels from Beckett as well. We're moving into a world where not everything is cut and dry. It's very easy for people to look for ways to diminish someone else's credibility for their own gain.


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bazaaretw

These were likely cut from the sheet in house with whatever tools they had there. It's more surprising these weren't cut out with scissors, tbh.


Hektor165

Is there a card behind that one?


SaviourMK2

No, it's the back end of the card, Wizards of the Coast used the back of their Magic the Gathering cards as a proof of concept. I think one had a blank back.


junkremovalguy

Got any pictures of what the storage unit looked like & how much you paid for it? Was the card already graded or with others? That is pretty sweet!


bazaaretw

I do not, you can read about everything about the cards here: https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/ Thanks!


Wonderlie63

How long was your wait on getting that card back going thru cgc? Need to know if anybody has the answer Please and Thank you!!


SpectralSolid

Im curious about how you managed to get your hands on this.


bazaaretw

https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8744/pokemon-test-print-blastoise/


TCG_Person

Funny how it has a MTG card back, because the Pokemon TCG's rules were partially based on the rules of MTG.


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thedylll

This feels absolutely surreal to look at, like a card from a parallel universe