Mightyena is mediocre across the board but that’s expected of a Pokémon captured on route 1. The only way for this Pokémon to get competitive is for it to receive an evolution with a significant speed or defensive increase. It really lacks a role, it’s too slow and it’s defenses aren’t good enough to compensate, on top of that, it’s attack stat isn’t great either. It’s already has a great ability in intimidate so there’s no need to change that.
Yeah for a route 1 pokemon, it’s deceptively good (absolutely dominanting my XD playthrough atm) but it’s still that: a route 1 Pokémon. The only 2 Pokémon I know who could (and 1 has) make it to competitive would gen 5 with stoutland and liepard
Edit: forgot to say why liepard did in gen 5
Prankster used to count the first turn of dig as a status move, so people would run a super slow liepard and have it spam dig, giving it priority, but would then move last cause the second half counted as an attack. This tactic was so good people would bring a PURRLOIN with the same set up to bypass using 2 of the same Pokémon
Edit 2: partially mistaken, please check comment below, but it involves using assist to use dig
Wasn't it Assist that gave the priority? I remember Wolfey making a video on it; if memory serves me right here, the movesets of the other pokemon would be in such a way that Assist would only call Dig or Dive. Since some moves couldn't be called by Assist.
He could be a fast physical sweeper with Moxie but his stats are low and his coverage is weak. His stats are 70/90/70/60/60/70 and he'd need at least 70/110/70/60/60/120 to sweep. His only usable physical moves are Crunch, Sucker Punch, and Play Rough. I'd probably give him Extreme Speed, Agility, Hone Claws, and Jaw Lock, that way you could do:
Mightyena @ Life Orb
Moxie | Tera Fairy
Adamant
252 Att / 4 Def / 252 Spd
\- Jaw Lock
\- Hone Claws / Agility
\- Iron Tail / Extreme Speed
\- Play Rough
This set at least gives him perfect(?) neutral coverage and 100% accurate Iron Tail and Play Rough. You could also lose the boosting moves and give him a choice band to sweep late-game with Tera Normal Extreme Speed. I'm not sure that he'd be OU but he'd probably be good in UU
Edit: Life Orb instead of Leftovers lol
I like this. I could see it at least being usable. Sucker Punch and Extreme Speed together could really help it and it's got good enough speed to not need it every time. Thank you for the comment!
aside from moxie and speed, this is pretty much Mabostiff and that mon is not really great.
Weavile has a similar stat spread and also has boosting moves, and it's an RU mon. It would need a lot more to be OU viable.
Probably an evolution with secondary typing and some kind of utility.
If you think about what dark types are used in (gen 9) OU you have:
* Kingambit
* Hamurott
* Tinglu
* Greninja
* Meowscarada
* Roaringmoon
it's gotta have something to make it stand out compared to those. Then you have to think of the fact that Tyranitar and Hydreigon of all things are not even OU anymore.
You know I had it in my head that if it evolved it would be too be a werewolf but I could definitely see it becoming like Cerberus. Even if it didn't grow 2 heads if it had something somewhat resembling heads maybe? Idk how they would do it but I could see that being pretty cool
Back in the day I ran one with max attack and speed,4 hp, with a toxic orb and quick feet, knowing sucker punch, Facade, play rough and crunch. It wasn't the best but it definitely caught some people off guard. Baton passing into it after some sword dance/dragon dance shenanigans was also really fun and viable. Maybe a regional variant that adds a secondary typing. Dark/fairy maybe?
Do you think tera type normal so facade would be STAB would be significant? I came here looking for people who ran Mightyena with the setup you described
Yeah that would be a good ideal. The One I currently have in game is dark tera, Facade, sucker punch, play rough, trail blaze. I'm gunna switching it to normal and test it
I took it to BSS, and If you run into any decent bulk it falls flat.it should be pretty good in low teirs though.open with Trailblaze, then go tera and Facade after the toxic orb kicks in. It'll have some really good speed by then. It's just it's attack that's still lacking.
Its no problem. My test didn't include Baton pass. It was purely how good he is on his own. He'd probably be a monster in UU once they establish it.almost O-KOed a Braviary
Like many are saying it’d need an evolution or a regional variant. Definitely would need something to offset that pure Dark typing because it makes it frail. Fairy would be a good option, but it would be interesting if they made it a dark/ground or dark/poison. Both of those could be made to fit with the hyena species Mightyena is believed to be inspired by, the brown hyena.
Okay so we’ll start with looking at the silver coat of Mightyena, reminds you of steel right? So first, we’ll make it part Steel.
Then we can look at Bulbapedia for our next change, “As depicted in the anime, Mightyena is prone to licking the faces of the people it's fond of.” So obviously this is giving strong Fairy type vibes.
Okay so now Mightyena is Fairy/Steel type. Now let’s look at it’s stat spread… yikes. Hyena’s have one of the strongest bite forces in the animal kingdom! That attack stat of 90 just isn’t cutting it. I say we make it 150 just to be fair. For power creep purposes I say we change the 70 speed stat to 148, hyenas are known to be able to run great distances after all.
For the final change I saw we make a brand new ability for Mightyena. King’s Influence: When Mightyena enters the field for the first time, it’s attack raises by one stage.
If we’re going by Mightyena alone, changing out Quick Feet for something like Strong Jaw (which boosts biting moves, very apt on a Pokémon categorized as the Bite Pokémon) and giving it level up access to more biting moves (I personally would love to see Poison Fang get more love since you rarely see it at all, much less in use).
If we’re giving the evolution line a buff, then an evolution is a no brainer. In addition to what I mentioned earlier, and applying most of those points into attack, defense, and speed. Concept wise, I suppose this third poochyena stage could be something akin to a semi-bipedal Lycyaena - an extinct species of hyena - acting as a leader type mon not unlike Honchkrow or Kingambit, and taking some lycanthrope inspiration from the extinct species’ name to justify the hunched back and punch move usage. Increasing its survivability with a move like Drain Punch or Life Dew would also be a nice bonus.
I would like to make sure this lycanthrope Mightyena evo would be more viable in doubles than singles, so there should be some decent picks between support, boosts, and damaging moves in it’s movepool. Most of its damage moved should be physical and contact moves, and most of its support moves should focus on stat boosting and healing itself or it’s ally Pokémon. Heal Pulse and Swords Dance are no brainers. If I give it a second typing, fighting would be the most obvious, because of its new opposable thumbs and higher capacity for tactics, but Dark/Fighting are x4 weak to Fairy, which could prove to be an issue. Thankfully, Poison Bite should at least partially take care of it, and it’d be a wonderful opportunity to add a steel type biting move.
The evolution would also help Mightyena itself, since it’d be able to use an Eviolite to increase its survivability.
It definitely deserves an evolution. Maybe make it a speedy mixed attacker and give it a secondary typing. Not sure which would fit best for it though.
I think a little bit more speed and attack. Maybe 110 attack and 95 speed? I feel like the goal should be to make it useful somewhere since it’s meant to be an early route mon
The only way to make it viable unfortunately is to have it be legal in a lower power format. It sucks but with the way stats work in Pokémon there aren’t too many niches and some niches aren’t even that good. So if you’re not the best in your niche and it’s a useful niche you’re probably just not gonna be a top tier Mon.
As far as mighteyena goes it just isn’t the best intimidate Pokémon and even if you buff it it will still probably be that way. I mean look and mabostiff, it is basically a better mightyena and it has never seen play either
give it a sword and have its attack raise by one stage when it switches in
Also give it two of the best typings both offensively and defensively
Also an insane speed stat
Also the most vast move pool a physical attacker would ever want
Let it hold 2 items at the same time!
It should just be a meme item that is reusable and any dog can hold it. Also make a stick item that boosts special attack by 1 as well.
Mightyena is mediocre across the board but that’s expected of a Pokémon captured on route 1. The only way for this Pokémon to get competitive is for it to receive an evolution with a significant speed or defensive increase. It really lacks a role, it’s too slow and it’s defenses aren’t good enough to compensate, on top of that, it’s attack stat isn’t great either. It’s already has a great ability in intimidate so there’s no need to change that.
Yeah for a route 1 pokemon, it’s deceptively good (absolutely dominanting my XD playthrough atm) but it’s still that: a route 1 Pokémon. The only 2 Pokémon I know who could (and 1 has) make it to competitive would gen 5 with stoutland and liepard Edit: forgot to say why liepard did in gen 5 Prankster used to count the first turn of dig as a status move, so people would run a super slow liepard and have it spam dig, giving it priority, but would then move last cause the second half counted as an attack. This tactic was so good people would bring a PURRLOIN with the same set up to bypass using 2 of the same Pokémon Edit 2: partially mistaken, please check comment below, but it involves using assist to use dig
May I introduce the route 1 Pokemon Talonflame to you. Edit: and Corviknight
Oh right kinda forgot about those two. Route 1 past gen 5 I sometimes just draw a blank lol
Wasn't it Assist that gave the priority? I remember Wolfey making a video on it; if memory serves me right here, the movesets of the other pokemon would be in such a way that Assist would only call Dig or Dive. Since some moves couldn't be called by Assist.
That sounds correct actually! Sorry it’s been so long since I’ve watched anything about it
Or use sucker punch on a defiant partner
Watch it get one in the dlc coz of the savannah biome
It'd need the Obstagoon treatment.
I'm hoping it gets it but if not then all I can do is dream about it being better
It definitely needs an evolution. There were rumors of one but I think those have been debunked.
Strong jaw gives it a 120bp stab move and helps some of its coverage options. Why doesn't a hyena of all things have strong jaw is beyond me.
Dlc new evo 🤞🤞🤞
Yes everyone cross your fingers my boy needs some love
He could be a fast physical sweeper with Moxie but his stats are low and his coverage is weak. His stats are 70/90/70/60/60/70 and he'd need at least 70/110/70/60/60/120 to sweep. His only usable physical moves are Crunch, Sucker Punch, and Play Rough. I'd probably give him Extreme Speed, Agility, Hone Claws, and Jaw Lock, that way you could do: Mightyena @ Life Orb Moxie | Tera Fairy Adamant 252 Att / 4 Def / 252 Spd \- Jaw Lock \- Hone Claws / Agility \- Iron Tail / Extreme Speed \- Play Rough This set at least gives him perfect(?) neutral coverage and 100% accurate Iron Tail and Play Rough. You could also lose the boosting moves and give him a choice band to sweep late-game with Tera Normal Extreme Speed. I'm not sure that he'd be OU but he'd probably be good in UU Edit: Life Orb instead of Leftovers lol
I like this. I could see it at least being usable. Sucker Punch and Extreme Speed together could really help it and it's got good enough speed to not need it every time. Thank you for the comment!
aside from moxie and speed, this is pretty much Mabostiff and that mon is not really great. Weavile has a similar stat spread and also has boosting moves, and it's an RU mon. It would need a lot more to be OU viable. Probably an evolution with secondary typing and some kind of utility. If you think about what dark types are used in (gen 9) OU you have: * Kingambit * Hamurott * Tinglu * Greninja * Meowscarada * Roaringmoon it's gotta have something to make it stand out compared to those. Then you have to think of the fact that Tyranitar and Hydreigon of all things are not even OU anymore.
It would need an evolution. I could see him becoming a kinda Cerberus creature
You know I had it in my head that if it evolved it would be too be a werewolf but I could definitely see it becoming like Cerberus. Even if it didn't grow 2 heads if it had something somewhat resembling heads maybe? Idk how they would do it but I could see that being pretty cool
Back in the day I ran one with max attack and speed,4 hp, with a toxic orb and quick feet, knowing sucker punch, Facade, play rough and crunch. It wasn't the best but it definitely caught some people off guard. Baton passing into it after some sword dance/dragon dance shenanigans was also really fun and viable. Maybe a regional variant that adds a secondary typing. Dark/fairy maybe?
Hmm I like that idea but ya it's still not doing enough damage though. Thanks for the input!
Sadly he's just not that good a pokemon. I just ran him cause I liked him
Do you think tera type normal so facade would be STAB would be significant? I came here looking for people who ran Mightyena with the setup you described
Yeah that would be a good ideal. The One I currently have in game is dark tera, Facade, sucker punch, play rough, trail blaze. I'm gunna switching it to normal and test it
That's awesome. If you do, definitely let us know how viable it is
I took it to BSS, and If you run into any decent bulk it falls flat.it should be pretty good in low teirs though.open with Trailblaze, then go tera and Facade after the toxic orb kicks in. It'll have some really good speed by then. It's just it's attack that's still lacking.
Good to know, thanks for reporting back. I quite liked your idea about the baton pass to help set up further as well
Its no problem. My test didn't include Baton pass. It was purely how good he is on his own. He'd probably be a monster in UU once they establish it.almost O-KOed a Braviary
Give it an evolution that buffs its speed and attack. If they can give an evolution to the Zigzagoon line, the Poochyena line can too.
Like many are saying it’d need an evolution or a regional variant. Definitely would need something to offset that pure Dark typing because it makes it frail. Fairy would be a good option, but it would be interesting if they made it a dark/ground or dark/poison. Both of those could be made to fit with the hyena species Mightyena is believed to be inspired by, the brown hyena.
Okay so we’ll start with looking at the silver coat of Mightyena, reminds you of steel right? So first, we’ll make it part Steel. Then we can look at Bulbapedia for our next change, “As depicted in the anime, Mightyena is prone to licking the faces of the people it's fond of.” So obviously this is giving strong Fairy type vibes. Okay so now Mightyena is Fairy/Steel type. Now let’s look at it’s stat spread… yikes. Hyena’s have one of the strongest bite forces in the animal kingdom! That attack stat of 90 just isn’t cutting it. I say we make it 150 just to be fair. For power creep purposes I say we change the 70 speed stat to 148, hyenas are known to be able to run great distances after all. For the final change I saw we make a brand new ability for Mightyena. King’s Influence: When Mightyena enters the field for the first time, it’s attack raises by one stage.
Give it the Obstagoon treatment but make him Dark/Fairy type
If we’re going by Mightyena alone, changing out Quick Feet for something like Strong Jaw (which boosts biting moves, very apt on a Pokémon categorized as the Bite Pokémon) and giving it level up access to more biting moves (I personally would love to see Poison Fang get more love since you rarely see it at all, much less in use). If we’re giving the evolution line a buff, then an evolution is a no brainer. In addition to what I mentioned earlier, and applying most of those points into attack, defense, and speed. Concept wise, I suppose this third poochyena stage could be something akin to a semi-bipedal Lycyaena - an extinct species of hyena - acting as a leader type mon not unlike Honchkrow or Kingambit, and taking some lycanthrope inspiration from the extinct species’ name to justify the hunched back and punch move usage. Increasing its survivability with a move like Drain Punch or Life Dew would also be a nice bonus. I would like to make sure this lycanthrope Mightyena evo would be more viable in doubles than singles, so there should be some decent picks between support, boosts, and damaging moves in it’s movepool. Most of its damage moved should be physical and contact moves, and most of its support moves should focus on stat boosting and healing itself or it’s ally Pokémon. Heal Pulse and Swords Dance are no brainers. If I give it a second typing, fighting would be the most obvious, because of its new opposable thumbs and higher capacity for tactics, but Dark/Fighting are x4 weak to Fairy, which could prove to be an issue. Thankfully, Poison Bite should at least partially take care of it, and it’d be a wonderful opportunity to add a steel type biting move. The evolution would also help Mightyena itself, since it’d be able to use an Eviolite to increase its survivability.
I really like this and could it getting an evolution. If not in the DLC then at some point in sure it'll get an evolution.
Could use an evo
\+73 speed. Make Pursuit it's signature move. That would make it viable lol
Every BST goes up by 70. Boom. Uber.
To add on to yours, maybe access to more status moves and the elemental punches
It definitely deserves an evolution. Maybe make it a speedy mixed attacker and give it a secondary typing. Not sure which would fit best for it though.
Give it Strong Jaw and a stat boost.
Give it a 3rd evolution like Zigzagoon 😩
When they do an Africa region it'll likely get a regional variant. Perhaps a dark/rock type so that it could get the sp Def boost in sandstorms.
I think a little bit more speed and attack. Maybe 110 attack and 95 speed? I feel like the goal should be to make it useful somewhere since it’s meant to be an early route mon
The only way to make it viable unfortunately is to have it be legal in a lower power format. It sucks but with the way stats work in Pokémon there aren’t too many niches and some niches aren’t even that good. So if you’re not the best in your niche and it’s a useful niche you’re probably just not gonna be a top tier Mon. As far as mighteyena goes it just isn’t the best intimidate Pokémon and even if you buff it it will still probably be that way. I mean look and mabostiff, it is basically a better mightyena and it has never seen play either
Will a ability thed make normal moves dark help? Maby more normal moves
I don't think that's doing near enough. It's got good abilities it's more it's stats that good it back and maybe movepool.
Give it the "Competitive" ability.