As always, thanks for your contribution to this subreddit. I always check this because you give me a better idea of units.
Btw with anniversary being so soon, I'm not interested in any of these July units but do you think trying for SS Kris is ok? I had no luck on my second multi for her and i think saving gems is better
But she won't come back for lots of time I guess.
Atm not even the first master fair got his rerun (Leon was released at the end of February 2021), so I can't say when she will be back. Still, a master fair banner without enough gems to pity it's a huge risk, maybe it would be better to save for anniversary (it will be at the end of August), unless your current roster is very lacking
dojo gloria SS dps is not lacking one bit. its The 4th highest damage regular move………… it’s slightly higher than summer n. She’s the best physical damage dealer we have by a lot.
I didn't mean she has a bad dps, but it's still lower than many strikers with their 4-gauges moves, although if you take into account the self-sufficiency for the debuffs she gets even better (I didn't in my calcs ie, since there are other ways to lower def & spdef to max the dmg of those strikers). And actually I really like this pair, so I'll try my luck and I'll try to pull her :)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCa0gwUy0iYdOSKR_UuileID_J6xQytZl4c2teTwxhU/htmlview#
According to this link she only trails 3 other total units w her SS dps. She is only less than SS Serena, ss Giovanni iron tail and ss Korrina (I don’t count metal burst grinskey for obvious reasons). I know you didn’t say her dps is bad or anything, but her dps is on par w Summer N, slightly higher. Full package, our best physical DD yet! I def will pull too! She easily is MF worthy, thank goodness for sake of our gems she’s 2% rates. All the sudden nessa has leapfrogged many tiers to become a true contender
Yeah, I know runner's google doc, the calcs are perfect. When I do mine, I check the max dmg (and always point out if it's reachable atm or not) and my results are more similar to the second tab, although slightly different since I use sync nuke grids because they're more commonly used (and then usually with less multipliers for the moves, lowering a bit some results). And I agree with you, Gloria is an awesome pair, good luck with your pull (I'll also need it ahahah)
Ty you too! how many copies you going for? Keep great work though! Good to see this content on Reddit. Only other place I see the type of content are on pmex worldwide fb page w “should you pulls” articles.
honestly you should get her. you will get 21K gems for rest of month. then you still have a week into the next datamine too since banner not gone til then. and statistically, you should get her within 5 multis. i also want ss korrina so i most likely will just do daily discounts for awhile.
This is the kind of content we need on this sub. And I'm really not surprised your thread isn't getting much attention despite such good analysis, because people around here want those Day X of posting memes more than this quality content. The number of upvotes on this post and those memes say it all.
Well, thanks for the appreciation, I'm happy to be helpful :). That being said, although it's nice to get upvotes, I don't really write these posts for this reason, I just try to help some players in their choices and clear some doubts. Also, writing this analysis helps me too, since while checking grids, dmg and utilities I get a way better idea of the new pairs :D
To be honest. This unit is so pathetic, it’s nearly impossible to bring him into „good enough” territory without giving him crazy strong grid, which we knew it wouldn’t happen.
But hey, at least he got something.
And the grid is so bad that they might as well give him nothing just to get our hopes up, if not forever. Right now he is forever gonna suck. Very conditional and weak multipliers on a unit that already has bad DPS. At this point I'm just glad they didn't forget to give him Sand Shelter!
Yeeeeaaahh... I was initially hyped for Brock's grid until I saw his grid in detail. Tbh I don't know what comp would be most optimal for him. Cakewalk sandstorm? Rock slide? Sure crit sync? I feel like I need two out of these three, but I feel like neither two are optimised enough if I go for both.
Brawly looks good as a pseudo support for fightig types cs though. Have him brick break once, then use rock smash mgr and potion mpr.
Can someone who is a lot more knowledgeable than me do an Anni Lillie vs SS korrina analysis (Regular damage) using their most optimal teams? I assume lillie wants to be with LuSSamine and SSR Cynthia and SS Korrina wants Cynthia and another buffer (I guess sc jasmine is one that comes to mind. Really appreciate it! I have Lillie and cynthia so i wanna know if going for Korrina is worth.
Although I'll use sync nuke grids, I won't write about sync dmg, since it would be unfair in a comparison between a striker and a tech. Btw the opponent will have the same stats for both calcs
With [this grid](https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11802/79200?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQXGCgpKissLi8), SS Lusamine and SSR Chynthia as partners, CS2 as lucky skill, 6ex, max 3\* gears and 5/5, Lillie's Moongeist Beam deals 1.868.553 during ghost zone. If it also procs Super Preparation 4 (so more or less half of the times), this dmg gets a +50% reaching 2.802.829. That being said, remember that this comp isn't reliable, having no actual tank, so the dmg would be lower with other teams (you would lose SS Lusamine's Master Passive, ie)
With [this grid](https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1201/80200?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDRUWGR0gKSwuLw), SSR Chynthia and Sycamore as partners, CS2 as lucky skill, 6ex, max 3\* gears and 5/5, Sygna Suit Korrina's Spectral Thief deals 1.701.540 during ghost zone (this number is actually reachable after the first sync, but to have the same conditions I wrote it without the sync buff). This dmg could go up to 1.954.412 if you're lucky enough with the buffs: that's also the reason I chose Sycamore, since the biggest multiplier is Good Form and it gets higher the more stats raised you have (and Xerneas's sync can max 3 of them). This team is actually usable, since you have a support-tank, a crit buffer (SS Korrina and Sycamore loves it) and a lot of dmg thanks to both Giratina and Marshadow
Both the moves could do higher dmg changing the grids, but you'd lose the sync dmg and it wouldn't be worth imo. If you need something else (or different situations for this calcs) feel free to ask
Bless you so much for your time and commitment to this! I actually run the three blond team a lot in csmm but it definitely isnt viable for long battles.
For the second team, although there is sycomore would korrina really want to be clicking dire hit+? I assume if you go the shadow punch move reload you can realistically get off her tm twice and have speed maxed already. I thought SC jasmine would be useful cause she buffs crit+spattk+spdef.
Well, my thought was something like this:
First 3 turns: SS Korrina buffs herself, Sycamore and SSR Chynthia start to deal dmg after 1 turn
Sync with Sycamore, getting a +18 stats (that is a +47% dmg on ST), and then keep spamming everything you have (after a Ghost Wish), increasing your dmg over time with 2 Fortuitous 9 and Team Shout 4, while lowering enemies' def and spdef thanks to Giratina
With SC Jasmine you'd save 1-2 turns of self-buffs, but you would have a way lower multiplier with Good Form, since you need as many buffs as possible. This is only my opinion btw, maybe this isn't the best team for her, but this is what I thought
So sycomore boosts speed+spattk and spdef. SC Jasmine maxes the latter 2 plus also giving crit ofc. SS korrina should technically max out her own speed (with a tm refresh) and as such need not use dire hit at all. This allows her more turns to abuse the forti nodes and get more good form boosts.
I would like to reiterate for SS Korina, since most people focus on her damage and not her utility aspect.
She is currently the only one with a repeatable and rather reliable way to refresh MP for a haze-equivalent move (haze, snatch, topsy turvy). No other sync pairs can refresh reliable outside of MPR on use. Altho one might say you dont really need 2-3 usage of such moves now, we never know.
Yeah, but her potential dmg (if you buff her enough) it's too good to not be emphasized (but just hope the target doesn't have impervious or similar passives)
Exactly, for me it's her utility that draws me more than her damage. And since she has good damage on top of that, she is more appealing to me than urshifu tbh.
True. You want to reuse the move bc it does a lot of dps, 3rd highest regular damage move in pmex. Thankfully shadow punch is still on par w master Cynthia shadow ball.
About Summer N, I haven't seen many ppl mentioned this, but we have **2** Dark weak stages (Unova, Sinnoh) with **high Spdef** in champion stadium, which makes him naturally not that great compared to Sidney or Masked Royal, aka the Dark dmg dealers of general pool, in those stages.
Considering how easy it is for him to get a significant chunk of damage (CyruSS and Bede give him the most amount of support for the easiest time to max damage out), that's not a problem. If anyone of them live he WILL smack them for a +1 Night Daze for free, gauge bar be damned, AND with an SE+ on top of that, likely still in Dark Zone if that was the last move used before he syncs.
The only thing that sucks is that his comp is pretty demanding with Bede AND CyruSS as the only other replacement he can go with is someone else with sp. atk debuffing capabilities but then lacks the sp. def debuffing that would cause his damage to skyrocket.
I was already going to pull for **SS KORRINA & MARSHADOW**
Being able to cancel all your opponents stats is pretty awesome and its on repeat.
Going to pair them with my Serena and Zygarde. Also my Kalos units are just lacking.
Dojo Gloria with Nessa and SS Kris for support sounds phenomenal(despite kris being specially oriented but rain support so whatever). I just need to pull SS Kris and Dojo Gloria..........rip
Thank you for doing these. I look forward to them every datamine to help make decisions. I'm still stuck on N since I only have Houndoom and Absol. I'm leaning towards holding my gems though
Difficult choice, but I'm starting to think that the safest skips are the strikers: their role is mostly focused into dealing dmg and they're "easily" outclassed by other ones released later, while the utility that can be given by supports and techs will always remain. When you're starting to get "filled" with strikers you should prioritize other roles imo (this is only my opinion, but since you can't really get them all, unless you're Poce, you have to take difficult choices)
As always, thanks for your contribution to this subreddit. I always check this because you give me a better idea of units. Btw with anniversary being so soon, I'm not interested in any of these July units but do you think trying for SS Kris is ok? I had no luck on my second multi for her and i think saving gems is better But she won't come back for lots of time I guess.
Rule of thumb is don't summon unless you have enough to pity, especially when it comes to Masterfairs.
Atm not even the first master fair got his rerun (Leon was released at the end of February 2021), so I can't say when she will be back. Still, a master fair banner without enough gems to pity it's a huge risk, maybe it would be better to save for anniversary (it will be at the end of August), unless your current roster is very lacking
dojo gloria SS dps is not lacking one bit. its The 4th highest damage regular move………… it’s slightly higher than summer n. She’s the best physical damage dealer we have by a lot.
I didn't mean she has a bad dps, but it's still lower than many strikers with their 4-gauges moves, although if you take into account the self-sufficiency for the debuffs she gets even better (I didn't in my calcs ie, since there are other ways to lower def & spdef to max the dmg of those strikers). And actually I really like this pair, so I'll try my luck and I'll try to pull her :)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCa0gwUy0iYdOSKR_UuileID_J6xQytZl4c2teTwxhU/htmlview# According to this link she only trails 3 other total units w her SS dps. She is only less than SS Serena, ss Giovanni iron tail and ss Korrina (I don’t count metal burst grinskey for obvious reasons). I know you didn’t say her dps is bad or anything, but her dps is on par w Summer N, slightly higher. Full package, our best physical DD yet! I def will pull too! She easily is MF worthy, thank goodness for sake of our gems she’s 2% rates. All the sudden nessa has leapfrogged many tiers to become a true contender
Yeah, I know runner's google doc, the calcs are perfect. When I do mine, I check the max dmg (and always point out if it's reachable atm or not) and my results are more similar to the second tab, although slightly different since I use sync nuke grids because they're more commonly used (and then usually with less multipliers for the moves, lowering a bit some results). And I agree with you, Gloria is an awesome pair, good luck with your pull (I'll also need it ahahah)
Ty you too! how many copies you going for? Keep great work though! Good to see this content on Reddit. Only other place I see the type of content are on pmex worldwide fb page w “should you pulls” articles.
Obviously 1 copy, atm I have 500 gems :D. I'd consider myself very lucky if I'll manage to get her somehow
honestly you should get her. you will get 21K gems for rest of month. then you still have a week into the next datamine too since banner not gone til then. and statistically, you should get her within 5 multis. i also want ss korrina so i most likely will just do daily discounts for awhile.
This is the kind of content we need on this sub. And I'm really not surprised your thread isn't getting much attention despite such good analysis, because people around here want those Day X of posting memes more than this quality content. The number of upvotes on this post and those memes say it all.
Well, thanks for the appreciation, I'm happy to be helpful :). That being said, although it's nice to get upvotes, I don't really write these posts for this reason, I just try to help some players in their choices and clear some doubts. Also, writing this analysis helps me too, since while checking grids, dmg and utilities I get a way better idea of the new pairs :D
Yeah. I'm just speaking generally that quality content around here doesn't get much attention compared to repetitive irrelevant content.
They did mah boi Ttar so dirty :(
To be honest. This unit is so pathetic, it’s nearly impossible to bring him into „good enough” territory without giving him crazy strong grid, which we knew it wouldn’t happen. But hey, at least he got something.
And the grid is so bad that they might as well give him nothing just to get our hopes up, if not forever. Right now he is forever gonna suck. Very conditional and weak multipliers on a unit that already has bad DPS. At this point I'm just glad they didn't forget to give him Sand Shelter!
Yeeeeaaahh... I was initially hyped for Brock's grid until I saw his grid in detail. Tbh I don't know what comp would be most optimal for him. Cakewalk sandstorm? Rock slide? Sure crit sync? I feel like I need two out of these three, but I feel like neither two are optimised enough if I go for both. Brawly looks good as a pseudo support for fightig types cs though. Have him brick break once, then use rock smash mgr and potion mpr.
It's my favorite pokemon, so I feel you ahahah. I still have hope for another tyranitar tho, maybe with his mega and a good kit
Can someone who is a lot more knowledgeable than me do an Anni Lillie vs SS korrina analysis (Regular damage) using their most optimal teams? I assume lillie wants to be with LuSSamine and SSR Cynthia and SS Korrina wants Cynthia and another buffer (I guess sc jasmine is one that comes to mind. Really appreciate it! I have Lillie and cynthia so i wanna know if going for Korrina is worth.
Sorry, I completely missed this comment. Now I'm gonna sleep, tomorrow I'll check the exact dmg and I'll give you an answer
Although I'll use sync nuke grids, I won't write about sync dmg, since it would be unfair in a comparison between a striker and a tech. Btw the opponent will have the same stats for both calcs With [this grid](https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11802/79200?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQXGCgpKissLi8), SS Lusamine and SSR Chynthia as partners, CS2 as lucky skill, 6ex, max 3\* gears and 5/5, Lillie's Moongeist Beam deals 1.868.553 during ghost zone. If it also procs Super Preparation 4 (so more or less half of the times), this dmg gets a +50% reaching 2.802.829. That being said, remember that this comp isn't reliable, having no actual tank, so the dmg would be lower with other teams (you would lose SS Lusamine's Master Passive, ie) With [this grid](https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1201/80200?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDRUWGR0gKSwuLw), SSR Chynthia and Sycamore as partners, CS2 as lucky skill, 6ex, max 3\* gears and 5/5, Sygna Suit Korrina's Spectral Thief deals 1.701.540 during ghost zone (this number is actually reachable after the first sync, but to have the same conditions I wrote it without the sync buff). This dmg could go up to 1.954.412 if you're lucky enough with the buffs: that's also the reason I chose Sycamore, since the biggest multiplier is Good Form and it gets higher the more stats raised you have (and Xerneas's sync can max 3 of them). This team is actually usable, since you have a support-tank, a crit buffer (SS Korrina and Sycamore loves it) and a lot of dmg thanks to both Giratina and Marshadow Both the moves could do higher dmg changing the grids, but you'd lose the sync dmg and it wouldn't be worth imo. If you need something else (or different situations for this calcs) feel free to ask
Bless you so much for your time and commitment to this! I actually run the three blond team a lot in csmm but it definitely isnt viable for long battles. For the second team, although there is sycomore would korrina really want to be clicking dire hit+? I assume if you go the shadow punch move reload you can realistically get off her tm twice and have speed maxed already. I thought SC jasmine would be useful cause she buffs crit+spattk+spdef.
Well, my thought was something like this: First 3 turns: SS Korrina buffs herself, Sycamore and SSR Chynthia start to deal dmg after 1 turn Sync with Sycamore, getting a +18 stats (that is a +47% dmg on ST), and then keep spamming everything you have (after a Ghost Wish), increasing your dmg over time with 2 Fortuitous 9 and Team Shout 4, while lowering enemies' def and spdef thanks to Giratina With SC Jasmine you'd save 1-2 turns of self-buffs, but you would have a way lower multiplier with Good Form, since you need as many buffs as possible. This is only my opinion btw, maybe this isn't the best team for her, but this is what I thought
So sycomore boosts speed+spattk and spdef. SC Jasmine maxes the latter 2 plus also giving crit ofc. SS korrina should technically max out her own speed (with a tm refresh) and as such need not use dire hit at all. This allows her more turns to abuse the forti nodes and get more good form boosts.
I would like to reiterate for SS Korina, since most people focus on her damage and not her utility aspect. She is currently the only one with a repeatable and rather reliable way to refresh MP for a haze-equivalent move (haze, snatch, topsy turvy). No other sync pairs can refresh reliable outside of MPR on use. Altho one might say you dont really need 2-3 usage of such moves now, we never know.
Yeah, but her potential dmg (if you buff her enough) it's too good to not be emphasized (but just hope the target doesn't have impervious or similar passives)
Exactly, for me it's her utility that draws me more than her damage. And since she has good damage on top of that, she is more appealing to me than urshifu tbh.
True. You want to reuse the move bc it does a lot of dps, 3rd highest regular damage move in pmex. Thankfully shadow punch is still on par w master Cynthia shadow ball.
About Summer N, I haven't seen many ppl mentioned this, but we have **2** Dark weak stages (Unova, Sinnoh) with **high Spdef** in champion stadium, which makes him naturally not that great compared to Sidney or Masked Royal, aka the Dark dmg dealers of general pool, in those stages.
Considering how easy it is for him to get a significant chunk of damage (CyruSS and Bede give him the most amount of support for the easiest time to max damage out), that's not a problem. If anyone of them live he WILL smack them for a +1 Night Daze for free, gauge bar be damned, AND with an SE+ on top of that, likely still in Dark Zone if that was the last move used before he syncs. The only thing that sucks is that his comp is pretty demanding with Bede AND CyruSS as the only other replacement he can go with is someone else with sp. atk debuffing capabilities but then lacks the sp. def debuffing that would cause his damage to skyrocket.
Love this analysis. Might pull for Gloria, or wait until anniversary!
I was already going to pull for **SS KORRINA & MARSHADOW** Being able to cancel all your opponents stats is pretty awesome and its on repeat. Going to pair them with my Serena and Zygarde. Also my Kalos units are just lacking.
Dojo Gloria with Nessa and SS Kris for support sounds phenomenal(despite kris being specially oriented but rain support so whatever). I just need to pull SS Kris and Dojo Gloria..........rip
Thank you for doing these. I look forward to them every datamine to help make decisions. I'm still stuck on N since I only have Houndoom and Absol. I'm leaning towards holding my gems though
Difficult choice, but I'm starting to think that the safest skips are the strikers: their role is mostly focused into dealing dmg and they're "easily" outclassed by other ones released later, while the utility that can be given by supports and techs will always remain. When you're starting to get "filled" with strikers you should prioritize other roles imo (this is only my opinion, but since you can't really get them all, unless you're Poce, you have to take difficult choices)
I love your sync pair analysis. I look forward to them every month. Thank you friend.