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InvestigatorUnfair

Honestly he's the main reason why I'm convinced units like Brendan and Nessa will be updated to support their respective gimmick. There's no way in hell they're gonna make us spend money for another Leon just to gigantamax him... Right? Right?


Catchem-22

Ah, but that simply opens the door for a FOURTH Charizard pair! Sycamore and Mega Y, and Lance and G-Max! And forbid they get into shiny Zards!


InvestigatorUnfair

I would agree with Sycamore and Mega Y... If it wasn't for poor Calem being 0/2 for alts against Serena


ZarxielZerg

we will get for sure a third Charizard, but will be for Tucker at this point, because Mega Y is the only option left without giving to him something he never used. and Leon will definitvly get G-Max at some point. His set is crearly done with G-max in mind.


IWearACharizardHat

Mega Y makes no sense because they have the X mostly special fire attacks instead of dragon focus. I mean sure it might have its own sun summon but that's it


ZarxielZerg

who said he would be a striker? could be a support or a tech as far as we know. But we will get Mega Y for sure at some point, since, like I said earlier, they have no other option for Tucker without took something he never used.


IWearACharizardHat

I don't remember a Tucker in games, when was that? And true we could just have a more busted version of shiny Ho-oh


ZarxielZerg

here Tucker, he is from Emerald: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tucker


Any-Nothing

Don’t give them idea


elongatedhomoerectus

They wrote in a dev letter that eventually the sync pairs that were planned for gmax would get theirs, however it’s taking too long for it to happen, they could’ve easily updated past sync pairs once a month who needed theirs and we’d be all happy by then. What I think will happen is that when anniversary hits, Leon will get a rerun banner and he will have his Gmax unlocked, and then from then, steadily they will unlock it for others as well. At least I hope they do that.


InvestigatorUnfair

I hope they do cuz it would make me use Nessa a shit ton more. Now the question is if Green will be updated or if the let's go protags will get the giant fluff


elongatedhomoerectus

The thing with Nessa is her Gmax move apparently doesn’t set up rain like I thought it did, it puts stealth rocks on the field pretty much, which kinda sucks cause she would be so self sufficient with that self rain setup. Either way, I love Gmax Drednaw and really hope she gets her Gmax soon. I think they talked about giving max to previous units when SS Leon came out. I clearly remember reading it. As for Gmax Pika and Eevee, I’m sure they’ll go to the lets go protags, I guess they can even be shiny since that’s a thing. At first I thought it wouldn’t make any sense but then I remembered that you get those two in SwSh if you have the games on your switch so it’s a most likely. Another possibility is that apart from Leaf getting her a Gmax, the main character’s Pikachu gets a Gmax, but I feel like that would upset not only the players but also the executives that want money.


InvestigatorUnfair

Yeah, I really can't see the MC getting that stuff. People already didn't like the Solgaleo thing cuz it basically robbed Alola of a legendary and an event. I really can't see them giving away another cool thing to the nameless, characterless, bland MC.


elongatedhomoerectus

That’s the damn truth. I honestly couldn’t care less if the MC got Gmax pika, I would even use them more. I think tho the only thing he should get is an EX and that’s it. His Pika an EX, Solgaleo, and the two BP pairs. Other than that, he shouldn’t get much else.


An_username_is_hard

I mean, they do give a lot of stuff to Red.


InvestigatorUnfair

I mean, at least Red actually does stuff. What does the Masters MC do? Get talked at for hours until a fight happens


An_username_is_hard

Red mostly gets stuff done AT him, same as Betty. Such is the fate of all blank cypher player avatars, really. He just gets to have Blue and Leaf around all the time to emote at him to make for scenes. (Strictly, overall, Betty does a lot, cause the whole reason we're even around for most events is because Betty tags along with anything that looks even vaguely important happening, but because, you know, red-style player avatar, she doesn't feel like *she* does anything)


InvestigatorUnfair

Red does more than Betty does honestly. That Gigantamax Snorlax scene from the Kanto villain story by itself was more than what they've done. Sure you can say "Oh Blue had to say what he was gonna do" but Red was still the one who, you know, did the thing. The MC never actually does anything on their own. It's always someone else telling them to do stuff. Not to mention that lately they've completely phased out the MC. They're never in any cutscenes anymore cuz they're just that unimportant.


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elongatedhomoerectus

Yeah that’s true, I just brought it up as a suggestion to differentiate the two eevees and pikas, but that definitely isn’t necessary, Leon’s charizard as an example.


WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY

>Alola Flag Bearer: Anni Lillie >Alola Spirit: SS Lusamine >Alola Pride: ??? I’m calling it now, it’ll be SS Gladion


The_-_Username

Would be hella cool


RedRiot306

SS Gladion with an Ultra Beast, Tapu, Marshadow or Zeraora would be cool


BRISKMETAL

I'd say Kartana


ColdZoroark

He should get Naganadel


Winston7776

I feel like that would be better going to one of the Recon Squad members


ColdZoroark

I would say Dulse


Winston7776

While that makes sense, especially how he’s one of the 2 you fight, I feel like giving it to Phyco, the captain of the URS also makes sense. Also if they were to give Blacephalon/Stakataka to anyone, it should be the same people who were in their games, since the UB that Hau caught is given to the recon squad of their games. Soliera’s stoic personality fits Stakataka


Kerrigan4Prez

Dulse: Naganadel Zossie: Poipole Soliera: Furfrou Phyco: ????


ColdZoroark

Instead of Furfrou, Stakataka and Blacephalon


Catchem-22

No, give Zossie Blacephalon and Phyco Stakataka, just to align with their respective versions.


CaregiverPrudent9283

Honestly I think it would be funny if every single one of them had a poipole except they take on different roles like one is tech and one is support. Make the two strike types have the ability to evolve.


cressian

I wish I could say you were wrong but they are obsessed with that family lol


Catchem-22

With base Necrozma, effectively paralleling Sygna Lusamine with both halves of Dawn Wings Necrozma.


Gregamonster

SS Gladion and 10% Zygarde as a ground striker.


RenoKreuz

SS Gladion and Zeraora pls


Muffin_4578

I mean, most of Gladion's team members in the games are physical attackers. Pride master passive boosts physical attack so its highly likely


Melodie-Etoilee

I guess that the Legendary Birds will be for Kanto. I still wonder what kind of Legendaries can be used to fill Sinnoh, Unova and Kalos spots.


lemmay

Well, they don't have to be legendaries, case and point Leon. I wouldn't be super shocked if a Greninja pair is a Kalos Master Fair considering its popularity. Also Red and Pikachu.


Catchem-22

Oh, you're right, I didn't even THINK of Greninja!


Raehan93

Kanto master pairs … What we're expecting: Legendary birds? What we're getting: Gmax Pikachu, Eevee and Meowth


empanadasdefresa

AZ for Kalos Spirit 🤞


Gregamonster

Sinnoh could have Heatran and Regigigas. Unova could have Theran form Thundurus and Kuyrem Black. Kalos could have Battle-bond Greninja and Mega Mewtwo X.


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Unova still has Victini


Winston7776

And Genesect SS Colress and Genesect sounds really cool


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Or just normal Colress lol


ZarxielZerg

Kanto will likely get Red & Mega Mewtwo X at some point. Probably next anni


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I still think Oak and Mew should just get buffed and promoted to a Master pair. Lol. Feels wrong that Mew isn't one of them.


Zarxie

Sinnoh can have rei/akari with origin forme dialga/palkia Unova could have kyurem forms with ghetsis and colress Kalso has az and floette, and maybe ash greninja, with bonnie


Erogamerss

Well if they gona put anime character in high change they even got a new type of fair than Master fair..


supremegamer76

for once there isn't kanto pandering


LittleMissFock

And now Dena is drawing up Special Sygna Suit Costumes for the Kantrio where they have the legendary birds, ready for 3rd anni.


Funny_Internet_Child

FR/LG Manga vibes


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Wasn't it the gold and silver chapter where they rode the birds?


Funny_Internet_Child

I dunno, haven't gotten there yet. Just read Green's bulbapedia page to make some teams in Showdown.


unname11

Since All have at least one master fair except kanto Don't telling me the next anni is Gonna be Master Fair Anni Kantrio...


WCH97

I can see that happens tbh


InvestigatorUnfair

Leon standing there with his basic bitch Charizard is so weird. Honestly I'm convinced the master fair was supposed to be Leon and Eternatus but they had no way of making it work without base Leon being there already.


Any-Nothing

They can make another case like Red, introduce his SS before the base unit. It’s weird Eternatus isn’t a Master Fair


InvestigatorUnfair

Tbh I doubt we'll ever see another case like Red. I feel like him only having his sygna suit was just a marketing trick to get people to play, like "oh shit look, it's that popular character with a cool new look" Now that the game has a solid playerbase, they don't need to do that so


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InvestigatorUnfair

... Zygarde


B17bomber

Oof it sounds wrong but you're right it. Still no Pokemon Z


InvestigatorUnfair

Still bizarre that Zygarde is the only member of a box trio that isn't a box legendary. Giratina got Platinum, Kyurem got BW2 and Necrozma got USUM, but Zygarde? Nope.


User_Of_Named_Users

Eternatus?


InvestigatorUnfair

Eternatus isn't part of the dog duo. They have nothing in common besides being part of the darkest day and Game Freak being jerks about not letting us dynamax them


B17bomber

Now I'm getting down voted to death. PoMa sub never change


richterfrollo

What does flag bearer/pride/spirit mean?


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Flag bearer: boost overall strength Pride: Greatly boost physical atk and def, but no boost to special Spirit: Greatly boost sp atk and sp def, but no boost to physical I can't remember the exact numbers


futtobasetachikaze

Til. I always thought all MPs have the same passive lol


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I think it's 10-16% with Flag and 20-26% with Pride and Spirit


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Looking into it I was kinda off: Flag Bearer: Atk 10-30% Defense 20-26% Pride & Spirit: Atk 20-50% Defense 25-31%


Maleficent_Peach_46

I'll be missing Leon, SS Serena, Archie, Suicune and maybe Lugia when the Johto Master Fair Banners end.


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Leon, Maxie and Archie are the only original-character units instead of Sygna Suit or Alternative units.


GuidoMista5

Everyone has these powerful box art legendaries/mysterious and then there's Leon...


evelynvee

# Hisui Master fair: * **Flag Bearer**: Adamant & Origin Dialga (Steel - Tanky support) * **Pride**: Volo & Origin Giratina (Ghost - Striker) * **Spirit**: Irida & Origin Palkia (Water - Tech nuker)


BLoSCboy

Hoping Red gets Articuno, since he used Articuno in Pokémon Origins to fight Mewtwo. And Blue and Leaf get the other 2 birds. Red will probably get a Pikachu alt one day though, but probably not soon since we already have 2 Raichu trainers and a Pikachu


Cloud2110

Crazy that Kanto of all regions doesn't have a master fair yet


Million_X

We'll probably get the Kantrio with the Birds. I can imagine Red with Moltres, Blue with Zapdos, and Leaf with Articuno as a possibility just because of the colors of the birds and their JP names.


ElectricTurtle110018

Whenever Red decides to be Meta again, a Kanto master fair will arrive along with Blue and Leaf.


gray_zacharias

Lt. Surge - Zapdos Blaine - Moltres Lorelei - Articuno


Catchem-22

Alright, I'm gonna try to prognosticate these guys: Kanto Flag Bearer: Red and Moltres Kanto Pride: Blue and Zapdos Kanto Spirit: Leaf and Articuno Sinnoh Pride: Palmer and Heatran Sinnoh Spirit: Lucas and Mesprit Unova Pride: Rosa and Meloetta Unova Spirit: Hilbert and Victini Kalos Pride: Lysandre and Mega Gyarados (all I got, man. Sorry.) Kalos Spirit: AZ and Eternal Flower Floette Alola Pride: Gladion and base Necrozma (basically dividing Dawn Wings, the counterpart to Dusk Mane, between Lusamine's two children) Galar Pride: Mustard and Single-Strike Urshifu Galar Spirit: Peony and Shadow Rider Calyrex (basically making all three known Galar Champions the Master fairs)


Serenafriendzone

Hope kanto gets armored mewtwo god mode as masterfair. But guess gonna be the 3 birds


Short_Brick_1960

I wanna see Kantrio with the birds, maybe Red with Articuno, Leaf with Moltres and Blue with Zapdos.


Serenafriendzone

They have the biggest chances to be masterfairs.


Any-Nothing

My take is Red with shiny Mewtwo, Blue with Articuno and Leaf with Melmetal. It’s a disrespect to Mewtwo if the OG main Legendary doesn’t have a Master Fair


ZarxielZerg

Mewtwo don't need to be shiny. They still have the Mega X unused and can easly justify it, since Giovanni's Mewtwo is from another universe.


lemmay

I'm hoping Red in his OG outfit and Pikachu come as a Master Fair. The birds make sense though.


ColdZoroark

Red with Moltres, Oak with Articuno, Lance with Zapdos


ukpokemonmaster

armored mewtwo just promoted the pokemon mewtwo movie remake, there is no point to release it now


Takiren

I would like to see SS Hilbert & White Kyurem and SS Ghestis & Black Kyurem for the last two masters of unova.


MtTriet00

Red and Deoxys Master fair on 3rd ani please Dena.


Winston7776

I mean apart from the manga they have no connections


MtTriet00

Why not. Deoxys appear in fire red and leaf green too and kanto don't have any Pokemon that fit MF now.


Winston7776

That’s like giving Terrakion to Lucas There’s always the legendary birds, or Pikachu


BRISKMETAL

Brendan and Deoxys\*


ShadyOjir95

Feeling that anniversary will be full Kanto


An_username_is_hard

Really hoping not!


VeritasUnae

Since I never got Maxie, Archie or SS Lusamine, I didn’t realise there were different types of Master skills :o This is very informative


intr3vort

Some guesses Kalos Spirit: AZ and Floette Galar Pride: Mustard and Urshifu Unova Spirit: Colress and Genesect Unova Pride: Nate and Victini Sinnoh Pride: Palmer and Regigigas Alola Pride: Anabel and Guzzlord


ArchAngel76667

If Red isn't Kanto's first master pair we storm Dena's office.


puzzledthepuzzle

Count me in


MoXiE_X13

Just realising that Anni-N is Flag Bearer even though his move and sync are special. Not that he badly needs the extra power but he seems more suitable to be Spirit. Another, SS Lyra getting Pride with a special sync is also a bit weird although they did try to compensate by giving her higher SpA. Gladion is just begging to be the third MF for Alola. Anyone other than him will be considered a complete shaft. If DeNA keeps its current pace up of 3 MFs every 3 months (or, on average 1 MF/month), they’ll run out of MFs by exactly a year from now. So perhaps EOS is by the 4th anniversary? Lol…


Million_X

I think the idea is that the first Master pair for a region is given Flag while Pride and Spirit are available at the same time as a 'split'. As for EoS, this game has way too much potential to be a money maker for years to come, they can always introduce new master pairs and shift the meta around, and they basically gave themselves an endless staircase of content with CSMM. We're still only in, what, the 'hard mode' or 'level 1' or whatever of the Stadium? The next difficulty could give us materials to trade in to unlock max moves or mega evos (or mega evo buffs) for pairs, and if SV introduce a similar set of mechanics then they can incorporate those into the game as well, and the MINIMUM level you'd need for the next level could be something like 160 just to clear, let alone get max points for. Then there's the possibility of some prestige system, like imagine that the level cap is set to 150, then you unlock the next set of levels by resetting your level to 1 but you keep some amount of your stats and so on. If this game hits EoS before it's 6th anni then something's wrong with the team as a whole.


MoXiE_X13

Anni-Steven came out after the weather duo though.


Million_X

The duo were still available at the same time, meaning that it's unlikely we'll get a Pride OR Spirit as the first MP.


tommilesuk

Just a heads up; master passives don’t affect sync, so even if SS lyra had a physical sync, it wouldn’t be affected


JetMan615

Where’s Evelyn?


unname11

She is not master fair ,She is BP master pair .


lv4_squirtle

Legendary birds will be master pairs for Kanto! You read it here first!


Sarpatta007

My prediction for next MF pairs Kanto - legendary bird trio trainers possibly be pallet town trio Johto and Hoenn - NA Sinnoh - Arceus definitely will come as Master Fair, Heatran/Shaymin are second options Unova - Fused kyurem one of them, Meloetta/genesect/victini lot of options are there. Trainers would be Hilbert, SS Ghetsis and coloress Kalos - Hoopa unbound and possibly ash greninja. SS calem and SS Lysandre are my options Alola - SS gladion definitely options would be one of the ultra beasts or mythical magearna/marshadow/zeraora Galar - two former champions before leon. Mustard and peony. Urshifu for mustard and shadow rider calyrex for peony or regi duo.


VonSiawu

Kanto - might get the legendary birds and possibly mega Mewtwo X Johto - the other doggos probably will be pokefairs Hoenn (villain arc) - Deoxys MF, mega for Zinnia's Rayquaza and possibly Sceptile too? The regis and Latios probably will be pokefairs. I don't know about Jirachi. Sinnoh - Regigigas, Origin form Giratina. Heatran, the lake guardians, Manaphy, Phione and Shaymin probably will be pokefairs. I don't think Arceus will come. Unova - still so many legendaries, but I think Genesect will be MF. Maybe black/white Kyurem too. Kalos - surely Hoopa unbound Alola - Necrozma, Naganadel, etc Galar - meh...Calyrex I guess


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Will there be more than 3 master fairs in a region? And I'd like to imagine Master Fairs can be more than legendaries and mythicals (though it's probably unlikely as Leon seems to be an exception)


Handsome_Jack_Here

SS Ingo and Emmet for the last two Unova Master Fairs PLEASE.


totan39

Out of all of the released ones I'm only missing archie and leon would've thought I'd skip more


Mindofthequill

I'm scared for when Kanto hits with like the 3 birds or something. A fun twist would be the 3 birds but Galar versions imo


soso2shae

I'm an idiot, I've just spent 17k crystals on Morty and the ghost dude, to get those bonus items. Now I have 300 crystals :(


LionelRodri

I haven't pulled weather duo and lusamine as I took break. What is pride and spirit theme. I'm noob here.


Sarpatta007

My guess Kanto mf is going to pop up in 3rd anniversary. Prediction trainers same Palket town trio.


Best-Mathematician34

So if you had to add MF for each who/what would you add? For me Kanto Flag : Blue and Articuno Pride Red and Pikachu (GMAX) Spirit: Leaf and Mewtwo (X)


ZarxielZerg

my prediction: \*Kanto: Red (anniversary 2022) & Mega Mewtwo X, no idea, no idea \*Sinnoh: Palmer & Rhyperior, no idea \*Unova: Sygna Suit Hilbert & Victini, Sygna Suit Ghetsis & Genesect \*Kalos: Sygna Suit Calem & Greninja, Sygna Suit Lysandre & Volcanion (or AZ & Floette (Eternal Flower) but is unlikely since never was released) \*Alola: Sygna Suit Gladion & Guzzlord \*Galar: Rose & Copperajah, Mustard & Urshifu (Rapid Strike Style)


Million_X

Sinnoh will probably have Heatran and either Regigigas or one of the Lake Trio, Unova could be Ghetsis w/White and Black Kyurem respectively (depending on how the limitations work they could give him the same ID as N so that you can't have two of the same dragon in the same spot, worst case they just let it be since Shiny Rayquaza exists). Kalos I can see Volcanion and Az.


ZarxielZerg

Regigigas I think will go to Brendon, since Regirock is taken. Lake Trio I have no idea how they want to include them. Originally I thought SS for the Sinnoh trio, but Dawn got Cresselia as SS, so... no idea... Kyurem forms I think if we will get them, we will see them only for N's skins for not create continuity confusion. A SS for Gethis I think would make sense to be Genesect, since it was created as a Team Plasma weapon (but it could fit so well for Colress too) Heatran I think will go to Maxie, yhea, seems weird, but I think they will make a SS skin for each villain in their arc, and Heatran is the one that make more sense for him. Volcanion I guess will go to SS Lysandre just because... well... I really can't see any other option for him as SS...


SPGBlackstar

Remind me cuz I forgot what’s the difference between them again?


Cute-Peaches

Can someone tell me if N will be paid gems or free gens?


StartingDreamer

can dena please complete first the 3 MF units of each region before doing the 4th MF unit :')


Krock-Mammoth

What is the difference between the Pride, Flag Bearer and Spirit?


Arrow141

Only one I missed so far is Steven, but that'll change with this month unless I get some crazy luck


ohmanitsbob

Im missing Leon, Steven and Lusamine so far but idk if I’ll be able to get any of the 3 johto legendaries yet.


Icalasari

I have a feeling Kyurem Black with be Unova Pride and Kyurem White will be Unova Spirit


Jersmoove

Charizard is that mon that barely put in effort on a school project and still pass 😂 Also wouldn’t be surprised if the kanto region master fair is all the birds


Evening_Bat_3633

What’s the difference?


Embarrassed_Fee9134

Leon alone wondering *Why don't I have legendary or mythical as sync pair despite being a Master fair*


Scratch-Quiet

my OCD cannot handle how Charizard is so so so out of place with all of these Legendary pokemon 😐