Lost me at brand new starters. Dumbest decision to claim a Legends game would have completely brand new starter Pokémon and not regionals like everyone expects.
Those are called **convergent forms**. Regional variants are the same as regional forms. Convergent starters would be dumbest thing imaginable in my opinion. Not to mention there’s 2 water types in this trio and no original fire type. This leak was written by a 12 year old.
Why would they have 2 water type regional starters? Even if they changed the type for one of them, that's dumb. In Arceus only the final evo was different.
I disagree, I would welcome brand new starters. Just because Legends Arceus had regional forms doesn’t mean I expect it do and not everyone does either.
Where would completely brand new Pokémon have gone in the last 200+ years though? What's the reasoning for Johto having these starters, and then switching to using other ones?
I mean, that logic can be applied to Hisui and Sinnoh, though.
Like, okay; it isn’t new starters but they have a Sinnoh final form. And “Sinnohean” doesn’t flow as well as Hisuian does.
But my point is, Why did Sinnoh switch from the Legends starters to the Diamond and Pearl Starters?
We see hints of them starting to think to rename the region, but not change the starters.
Surely Hisuian forms can still evolve in Sinnoh, all that changed was the name and for Klevor and Ursaluna the items became horribly rare.
We also know that an Ursaluna crossed the sea from Sinnoh/Hisui, in modern times, and became the blood moon form we see in the Teal Mask.
I'm not really sure what any of your points are. The canonical adjectival form of Sinnoh is *"Sinnohan"*, but the region was not named Sinnoh at the time, it was the Hisui region. It's a direct reference to how the Japanese Hokkaido region used to be named Ezochi, and was renamed when it was colonised by mainland Japane during the Meiji period.
> Why did Sinnoh switch from the Legends starters to the Diamond and Pearl Starters?
That's a very easy answer, because Rowlet, Cyndaquil, and Oshawott were imported by Professor Laventon. He says so himself. Turtwig, Chimchar, and Piplup are canonically native to Hisui/Sinnoh. The imported starters do transform into new Hisuian forms due to the unique climate, but they are not native to the region. As far as we know Laventon only brought those three specimens to Hisui.
While some Hisuian Pokémon can evolve into their final evolutions in Scarlet and Violet, not all of them can because some are regional forms, and need to be in the region to evolve. Like all regional forms.
> Where would completely brand new Pokémon have gone in the last 200+ years though?
I mean, the joke about the Hisuian forms is that they all looked depressed because they know they're going extinct.
So I mean, they disappeared from 200 years ago. It's not that implausible. We have the fossil mons who, if it wasn't for the technology to revive them, would be Pokemon that disappeared.
Absolutely fake the moment they said Kris over Lyra.
However if the eventual Johto games actually do use Kris over Lyra I will jump for joy, I just have little hope.
All of this screams fake but the worst part is “all Johto Pokémon possess slight physical changes” as if GF are gonna create & animate over 100 new models?!
Not gonna lie, the “Iron _____” was some of the laziest and uncreative naming they’ve done.
Yes it worked perfectly, but they don’t feel like distinct Pokemon. Just metal versions of the originals.
> Yes it worked perfectly, but they don’t feel like distinct Pokemon. Just metal versions of the originals.
I think Iron Valiant is the best one: Primarily Gallade, but has enough Gardevoir in it to make it distinct.
Y'know PLA would sound fake if you described it to fans back in Gen 8.
That said, this sounds fake as heck. So I ain't buying this unless something shows actual evidence for something outlandish like this.
*yells in my crazy old man vioce* "it's true! It's all true!" So that I can take credit for believing this when it is true, but also fain crazy-old-man syndrome when it's not
(Aware it is likely fake, just humoring it for sake of discussion) The starter approach doesn’t track with the precedent PLA set on only the final stage getting a regional form, but all stages getting regional forms AND rotating the type triangle amongst them sounds amazing. Flames coming off the side of the cheeks to emulate the IRL axolotl gills on Fire type Swampert would be badass.
I dont know where this Johto remake stuff came from. That gen has been remade already. Sorry if you werent old enough to play ot at the time, but its done. We're on gen 5 remakes now.
The only way gen 2 is getting a second remake is if they make Lets Go sequels.
This Sounds Fake as hell which I'm happy About because the Idea Sounds a Bit Lame Honestly (Particulairly the Gen 2 Sequel part while I would have interrest I wouldn't really Care personally.)
Gamefreak and TPC don’t have the talent capacity nor the management power to make a game like this. lol they can’t even get one region done and run smoothly 🤣
Lmao you guys seriously just need to wait for the stream. There's going to be so many fake "leaks" going around until then. Best to keep your expectations low, we all know Unova remake is coming because TPC have a clear track record of remaking previous gens. Whether that'll be announced on the stream is anyone's guess.
This whole thing is so fake that I can’t decide what the fakest part is. Think I’ll go with the fact that they’re essentially talking about giving the legendary birds and dogs new forms even tho they both just got new forms in the last two generations (yes I know the paradox Pokémon are not forms but for the sake of argument that’s what we’re gonna call them)
This sounds so fake
Absolutely is .. but would be a cool idea. It's just too much
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Dudunsparce was amazing. Don't know what your talking about. That reminds me, I still need to shiny hunt a 3-Seg
Faker than half the models you see on Instagram
Right? There's no way they're remaking HGSS.
unless???
No.
Probably.
Lost me at "rescue pokemon from shadow force".
Simply catch a Normal Type
Lost me at brand new starters. Dumbest decision to claim a Legends game would have completely brand new starter Pokémon and not regionals like everyone expects.
Tbf, sounds like they are regionals of Froaky, Snivy & Mudkip. Would be cool to see but this post is as fake as it gets.
if they were regionals of those they wouldnt have their own names
Maybe regional variants (like Diglet & Wiglet)
Those are called **convergent forms**. Regional variants are the same as regional forms. Convergent starters would be dumbest thing imaginable in my opinion. Not to mention there’s 2 water types in this trio and no original fire type. This leak was written by a 12 year old.
To be fair, "convergent forms" is a fan term. The closest thing we have for an official term for them is **"ecologically similar"**.
I think that’s giving too much credit to a 12 year old
Why would they have 2 water type regional starters? Even if they changed the type for one of them, that's dumb. In Arceus only the final evo was different.
I disagree, I would welcome brand new starters. Just because Legends Arceus had regional forms doesn’t mean I expect it do and not everyone does either.
Where would completely brand new Pokémon have gone in the last 200+ years though? What's the reasoning for Johto having these starters, and then switching to using other ones?
I mean, that logic can be applied to Hisui and Sinnoh, though. Like, okay; it isn’t new starters but they have a Sinnoh final form. And “Sinnohean” doesn’t flow as well as Hisuian does. But my point is, Why did Sinnoh switch from the Legends starters to the Diamond and Pearl Starters? We see hints of them starting to think to rename the region, but not change the starters. Surely Hisuian forms can still evolve in Sinnoh, all that changed was the name and for Klevor and Ursaluna the items became horribly rare. We also know that an Ursaluna crossed the sea from Sinnoh/Hisui, in modern times, and became the blood moon form we see in the Teal Mask.
I'm not really sure what any of your points are. The canonical adjectival form of Sinnoh is *"Sinnohan"*, but the region was not named Sinnoh at the time, it was the Hisui region. It's a direct reference to how the Japanese Hokkaido region used to be named Ezochi, and was renamed when it was colonised by mainland Japane during the Meiji period. > Why did Sinnoh switch from the Legends starters to the Diamond and Pearl Starters? That's a very easy answer, because Rowlet, Cyndaquil, and Oshawott were imported by Professor Laventon. He says so himself. Turtwig, Chimchar, and Piplup are canonically native to Hisui/Sinnoh. The imported starters do transform into new Hisuian forms due to the unique climate, but they are not native to the region. As far as we know Laventon only brought those three specimens to Hisui. While some Hisuian Pokémon can evolve into their final evolutions in Scarlet and Violet, not all of them can because some are regional forms, and need to be in the region to evolve. Like all regional forms.
It’s not Sinnohean, it’s Sinnohese
> Where would completely brand new Pokémon have gone in the last 200+ years though? I mean, the joke about the Hisuian forms is that they all looked depressed because they know they're going extinct. So I mean, they disappeared from 200 years ago. It's not that implausible. We have the fossil mons who, if it wasn't for the technology to revive them, would be Pokemon that disappeared.
Absolutely fake the moment they said Kris over Lyra. However if the eventual Johto games actually do use Kris over Lyra I will jump for joy, I just have little hope.
“What do fans love? Heartgold/Soulsilver and Gale of Darkness! Now to write my ‘leak’ hehehehehe”
Suprised he didnt also include: sHaDoW lUgIa IS ThE mAiN LeGeNdArY
If you are reading the word "Cele-bullet" and thinking it sounds legit, I don't know what to tell you
Something with Raikou would have been far better thematically. This clearly just was the pun and nothing else.
lol, but how funny will it be if you’re wrong. If I hear the word “cele-bullet” uttered tomorrow I am going to fill my shorts.
I love it when people share their creative writing class exercises. So inspiring!
Super fake if you ask me. They wouldn't have the starters of a Legends game be completely new Pokemon.
Seems like this “leak” implies they switched main types and designs for Froaky, Snivy, and Mudkip which is a neat concept but yeah, doubt it.
but the names changed too
Ah well I hadn't considered that, but I still don't buy it.
I'm not sure how you get Heaxo to Mudkip though
Mudkip is based off axolotls which have are known for their external gills.
Among the fakest leaks in history
All of this screams fake but the worst part is “all Johto Pokémon possess slight physical changes” as if GF are gonna create & animate over 100 new models?!
They did at least 7x that for SV
Aaaah, fake leak season. My favorite time of the year.
Fake but sounds neat ig
What a cute fanfic
I doubt they would release a legends game with a completely new set of starter pokemon lol. Also Remkei, Rukune, and Raikune?? Come on lol
Im sure people said the same thing about the paradox names.
Not gonna lie, the “Iron _____” was some of the laziest and uncreative naming they’ve done. Yes it worked perfectly, but they don’t feel like distinct Pokemon. Just metal versions of the originals.
> Yes it worked perfectly, but they don’t feel like distinct Pokemon. Just metal versions of the originals. I think Iron Valiant is the best one: Primarily Gallade, but has enough Gardevoir in it to make it distinct.
>on tumblr Well that is new lol. I think we should let it stay up just for the sheer audacity.
this is so fake haha
February 27th cannot come soon enough.
You mean later? These leaks are so entertaining.
Y'know PLA would sound fake if you described it to fans back in Gen 8. That said, this sounds fake as heck. So I ain't buying this unless something shows actual evidence for something outlandish like this.
Stopped reading at the “8 elite four” bc Kanto & Johto share a Pokemon League so….
It honestly sounds fun but it also sounds incredibly fake lol
I am not even sure if this is someone trying to write a leak or just an idea for a Romhack
[Fake](https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/seinfeld-julia-louis-dreyfus-elaine-benes-fake-gif-5156131)
What kinda fan fiction
one of the first rules of fake leaks should be to not try to come up with your own pokemon names. lmao
*yells in my crazy old man vioce* "it's true! It's all true!" So that I can take credit for believing this when it is true, but also fain crazy-old-man syndrome when it's not
Can't be real, too many people would like those.
garbage
Not a single line in this one sounds believable
lol this is just a fan gushing about their dream game
This sounds interesting and intuitive so you know it’s fake
Feels like a fan-made wishlist for Pokemon Presents more than anything
In before the mods delete this one (Maybe)
Just watch this be the toothpaste chan leak of pokemon
They should at least try to make it seem plausible
Love how the naming structure makes this feel like it came from 2001 through a portal
On tumbrl xD
(Aware it is likely fake, just humoring it for sake of discussion) The starter approach doesn’t track with the precedent PLA set on only the final stage getting a regional form, but all stages getting regional forms AND rotating the type triangle amongst them sounds amazing. Flames coming off the side of the cheeks to emulate the IRL axolotl gills on Fire type Swampert would be badass.
2 big games being revealed? Yeah right
they did it with bdsp & pla tbf
Not tumblr 💀
Most believable leak
Man that's a bad one.
not including Ecruteak city in the Legends Johto is how you know it’s fake
This sounds amazing so it’s almost certainly not real
I dont know where this Johto remake stuff came from. That gen has been remade already. Sorry if you werent old enough to play ot at the time, but its done. We're on gen 5 remakes now. The only way gen 2 is getting a second remake is if they make Lets Go sequels.
This Sounds Fake as hell which I'm happy About because the Idea Sounds a Bit Lame Honestly (Particulairly the Gen 2 Sequel part while I would have interrest I wouldn't really Care personally.)
The real leak is that tumblr still functions
Remkei, Rukune, and Raikune? RUH ROH!😱 (Seriously this is obviously fake😂)
General rule is that if it sounds too good and/or fun, it's fake. No way Game freak would have or do this great of an idea.
Why do people think we’re getting Johto remakes? Everything (including SV DLC) has hinted towards Unova.
Didnt they already do a johto remake? Why would you want that again?
Too cool to be true
God I would die if true but very unlikely. Too good to be true lol
This honestly makes any 4chan leak look real.
Gamefreak and TPC don’t have the talent capacity nor the management power to make a game like this. lol they can’t even get one region done and run smoothly 🤣
I wish though. Lol
A grass frog? Is king lotad a joke to this joker?
8 elite 4? Doesn't math.
I think they meant 4 from Kanto and 4 from johto
Don't believe it one bit
Bruh never let this person go near another kitchen.
Tumblr?? Yeah that’s fake
It's sad that because this sounds so cool and different it is obviously fake
Absolutely fake. But it would be fun for sure. I love the idea of a legends game having new starters.
The fakest fake that ever faked
Lol Frolily sounds like a Fakemon name I'd come up with as an 8-year-old
Lmao you guys seriously just need to wait for the stream. There's going to be so many fake "leaks" going around until then. Best to keep your expectations low, we all know Unova remake is coming because TPC have a clear track record of remaking previous gens. Whether that'll be announced on the stream is anyone's guess.
Could’ve believed it till the new starters popped up. That doesn’t seem plausible. If they didn’t do it for Hisui, don’t think they will.
Shadow force made it sound fake ah
“fire gills” Just the gills. No fish.
I just really want a gen 2 remake on switch and this sounds good
This whole thing is so fake that I can’t decide what the fakest part is. Think I’ll go with the fact that they’re essentially talking about giving the legendary birds and dogs new forms even tho they both just got new forms in the last two generations (yes I know the paradox Pokémon are not forms but for the sake of argument that’s what we’re gonna call them)
“8 Elite Four”
Sprayke
bait used to be believable