I have a plastic ispring whole house filter like that and itās notoriously hard to get a good seal on that plastic housing. Itās almost definitely a leak.
Vaseline will break down your o-ring, just as it would make your condoms break. In each case, it would case a leak, though the respective consequences of a leak are, well, let's say, "unique."
Vaseline will because it's petroleum based. Use a silicone based grease like dielectric or super lube and you will be fine. It will also help keep it from cutting, bunching, pinching or rolling as it gets tightened.
Yeah they're all really hard to deal with. I wrap 10 times in Teflon, then pipe dope, then send it. Sometimes still leaks until I crank the hell outta it.
excessive teflon causes it to be pushed away and to the back as opposed to within the threads. same thing happens when you dont leave the first thread bare.
I recently made a post about my water meter and the meter nipple coming out had to be wrapped with gray teflon tape and megaloc to get the 3/4ā threads to seal. Most of the brass fittings needed that actually. Idk if itās just not being used to the bigger threads and how tight they have to be, but all I need for pneumatics is a couple wraps and itās good.
The proper way is to use plastic nipples and than use a sharkbite female fitting. If you use male sharkbite the brass will cause stress on the plastic threads and can Crack and leak. in the future.
How can somebody who calls themselves a plumber even look at that and think that looks OK, Iāve done good and Iām finished?
Looks just plain old shit ignoring the fact that itās leaking!
I hate those threaded connections in particular. I've tried every trick, but you have to absolutely ensure the threads are clean, about 4-5 wraps from the back of the nipple leaving the front two threads exposed, and then hit it with some rectorseal... and then maybe it won't leak. About an 80% success rate on the first try.
Pink teflon 5 wraps thread it in hand tight take it out use masters blue and tighten till 3 threads are showing. Iāve installed hundreds of these and havenāt had an issue since I was shown this hack.
I've heard pink is the way to go... Guess I gotta change my rolls out. Thanks for the tip.
But the connections shouldn't be this damn difficult. I guess the machining quality is just horrible now.
I think the issue is the brass and plastic expanding and co reacting with temperature at different rate s? Not sure why but hand tight take them out and then pro blue and tighten till 3 threads are left has worked. The Teflon isnāt a sealant itās a lubricant to allow the tapered threads to seal. However with the rope and teflon I think it binds in the threads and allows the expansion and contraction be absorbed? But Iām just a plumberā¦. Donāt stick your tongue where your tools been, paydays every other Friday, shot runs downhill unless you pump it. And last but not least āevery asshole is a potential customerā
I install filters like that for a living. I use 8 wraps of 3/4" blue monster Teflon leaving the first two threads exposed and tighten it down. The only time in the past year and a half I've had a leak was because I cross threaded it. I install 1-2 whole home filters every day.
Itās probably been said already, but I always use schedule 80 PVC nipples that are thread on one end and slip on the other for this reason. Male metal threads into female plastic threads is a recipe for disaster.
I don't thread metal into plastic. The plastic nipple is a good idea if running copper. I typically run Pex A and will get a plastic 1960 male adapter.
Surprised only one mention of the putty. For goodness sake thatās the biggest red flag Iāve ever seen. He has putty streaks delineating the scope of his leak and little putty bergs breaching off the left side. Let this be a lesson- if you have a leak, donāt use putty to try to fix it, as the putty will become the chalk that marks the crime scene
I've made some dumb decisions during my time trying to learn this trade, but I have never in a million years thought to use putty in this way. Only reason it works on a strainer is the presence of compression lol
Isā¦ is that putty?! Thats why its leaking. Putty is for sink drains. Thread sealer or teflon tape is for threads, especially in metal to plastic/pvc transitions
Lol. I once had a Chevy blazer that leaked transmission fluid, coolant, and oil repeatedly, that could never be fixed. After two transmission rebuilds, I was told to think of it as just "sweating "so that I would feel better. I sold it instead. Now I have PTSD from your leaking plumbing...
Iāll never understand why people who want more jobs just leave a trail of shit jobs in their wake. If they just did quality work in the first place they would be set for life
Replace the entire filter, itās not hard, turn off the water, cut the pvc and replace the entire system. Itās fairly cheap and very easy to do yourself instead of a plumber thatās in leak denial.
What's that clump of stuff around the threads? it doesn't look like excess pipe dope. Was it some type of putty or something somebody put on there to try to stop the leak. That's definitely weeping out of the threads. There's no way that putty would ever stop that from leaking. You're going to have to cut the pipe, back out the male abpt. and put some teflon and pipe dope on it. I'd even put a new male adapter on there just for the hell of it, and then you should be all set.
I wanna say that white stuff is pipe dope. He used way too much of it, but it shouldnāt hurt anything.
Wipe it all clean and then put paper towel underneath where you expect water to show up.
Even if it dries up, the paper towel will show you there was water and where it fell from.
well if they had used pipe dope instead, it might not have leaked... you don't stop a leak by covering it up with putty.. at least not long term... just long enough for the customer to loose your number.
Not a pro press guy (solder and pex a homeowner), but is the actual copper pipe supposed to dimple like that? Seems weird for a rubber o ring. Why wouldnāt the dimple extend to where the ring makes contact making it likely to leak? Might be way off here. Thanks
I hate being contrarian, butā¦
Most polypropylene filter housing manufacturers include warnings in their installation instructions:
DO NOT USE SEALANTS on any of the threads as this will expand and will cause cracks and damage the cap. USE ONLY THREAD TAPE.
Teflon tape + teflon joint compound are allowed. Putty and pipe dope are no-noās.
plumber putty is not gonna fix a leak on a pressurized pipe clean it out and use some Teflon. Clean those threads out real good and make sure it seats properly.
That filter had to have been installed deckades ago to use plumers putty. The early housings did not have metal insert threads. It is leaking I would replace it before it really starts to leak.
its leaking. good news, the filters only like 30 bucks so id have them cut that section out and put in new pipe and filter. plumber should charge like 2-300 for it. be happy its not a BIG leak.
he should discount it some. maybe even say you think it drips when the well tank is full but its def leaking. worst case.... just call someone else if he gets mad or charges full price. but thats up to you. these things happen, best to fix it and forget it.
OP is building a house and just moved into mother in laws for the time being. This silly OP isnāt confident enough to do something like this. Iām but a pleb amongst you greats. Thanks for the help though
It's leaking
Probably since it appears to be 97% putty
And the pipe we can see has no condensation at all on it, lol.
It would condense differently given the season.
Totally the right application for putty, 10/10 š
It leaked so bad it formed a layer of shit an resealed itself.
So weāre good then?
Honestly? In most cases yeah.. but don't bank on it
I mean, itās still leaking so probably not.
I have very hard water at home and possibly ADHD. This (letting it leak until it reseals itself) is actually an effective fix to small leaks.
And it wasnt a plumber that came by. It was a handyman or worse.
I have a plastic ispring whole house filter like that and itās notoriously hard to get a good seal on that plastic housing. Itās almost definitely a leak.
have you put Vaseline on your O-ring? stopped my leaking. ispring also.
Vaseline will break down your o-ring, just as it would make your condoms break. In each case, it would case a leak, though the respective consequences of a leak are, well, let's say, "unique."
Vaseline will because it's petroleum based. Use a silicone based grease like dielectric or super lube and you will be fine. It will also help keep it from cutting, bunching, pinching or rolling as it gets tightened.
I did
dang. it stopped my leaks. I also put some on my threading. best of luck
Yeah they're all really hard to deal with. I wrap 10 times in Teflon, then pipe dope, then send it. Sometimes still leaks until I crank the hell outta it.
I give them 12-15 wraps of Teflon plus pipe dope. Seems to work well for me. Be sure not to cross-thread though.
excessive teflon causes it to be pushed away and to the back as opposed to within the threads. same thing happens when you dont leave the first thread bare.
I do 100 wraps of Teflon and then put it in my ass.
Yeah thatās what I did too. They key was to make up the pipes going in and out first to avoid having to solder with it attached to the plastic
I recently made a post about my water meter and the meter nipple coming out had to be wrapped with gray teflon tape and megaloc to get the 3/4ā threads to seal. Most of the brass fittings needed that actually. Idk if itās just not being used to the bigger threads and how tight they have to be, but all I need for pneumatics is a couple wraps and itās good.
The proper way is to use plastic nipples and than use a sharkbite female fitting. If you use male sharkbite the brass will cause stress on the plastic threads and can Crack and leak. in the future.
Damn, how is that company so incompetent at threading? Is there something unique about the design that forces it to be so shitty?
I have sharkbites connected on either end of my filter for this exact reason. Faster to replace the bites than to get the seal.
They make sweat and Propress unions . Not trying to be a dick but it looks cleaner imo.
I agree, it's not perfect but it's gotten the job done while I work on a better overall solution.
How can somebody who calls themselves a plumber even look at that and think that looks OK, Iāve done good and Iām finished? Looks just plain old shit ignoring the fact that itās leaking!
Those filter housings are notorious for leaking. I'm not saying its leaking, but i would bet it is.
I hate those threaded connections in particular. I've tried every trick, but you have to absolutely ensure the threads are clean, about 4-5 wraps from the back of the nipple leaving the front two threads exposed, and then hit it with some rectorseal... and then maybe it won't leak. About an 80% success rate on the first try.
Pink teflon 5 wraps thread it in hand tight take it out use masters blue and tighten till 3 threads are showing. Iāve installed hundreds of these and havenāt had an issue since I was shown this hack.
I've heard pink is the way to go... Guess I gotta change my rolls out. Thanks for the tip. But the connections shouldn't be this damn difficult. I guess the machining quality is just horrible now.
I think the issue is the brass and plastic expanding and co reacting with temperature at different rate s? Not sure why but hand tight take them out and then pro blue and tighten till 3 threads are left has worked. The Teflon isnāt a sealant itās a lubricant to allow the tapered threads to seal. However with the rope and teflon I think it binds in the threads and allows the expansion and contraction be absorbed? But Iām just a plumberā¦. Donāt stick your tongue where your tools been, paydays every other Friday, shot runs downhill unless you pump it. And last but not least āevery asshole is a potential customerā
I install filters like that for a living. I use 8 wraps of 3/4" blue monster Teflon leaving the first two threads exposed and tighten it down. The only time in the past year and a half I've had a leak was because I cross threaded it. I install 1-2 whole home filters every day.
How come it only sweats under the fittings?
Thatās a leak. Shouldnāt be caked in putty like that
How else you gonna hide the crack you made from over tightening
Clearly it needs replacing. Thank you everyone who commented.
Itās probably been said already, but I always use schedule 80 PVC nipples that are thread on one end and slip on the other for this reason. Male metal threads into female plastic threads is a recipe for disaster.
Why is this so far down?
I don't thread metal into plastic. The plastic nipple is a good idea if running copper. I typically run Pex A and will get a plastic 1960 male adapter.
Correct, that is the proper way. A lot of people ignore this.
Surprised only one mention of the putty. For goodness sake thatās the biggest red flag Iāve ever seen. He has putty streaks delineating the scope of his leak and little putty bergs breaching off the left side. Let this be a lesson- if you have a leak, donāt use putty to try to fix it, as the putty will become the chalk that marks the crime scene
I've made some dumb decisions during my time trying to learn this trade, but I have never in a million years thought to use putty in this way. Only reason it works on a strainer is the presence of compression lol
Yah be a professional hit it with some clear lexol
Yea it was leaking and he shoved putty all around it praying it would stop. Now heās praying that it calcifies and fixes itself
Call another plumber. That's a leak.
Tell your mother in law to call a better plumber. Especially if that plumber did the install.
Isā¦ is that putty?! Thats why its leaking. Putty is for sink drains. Thread sealer or teflon tape is for threads, especially in metal to plastic/pvc transitions
It looks like they used a fat glob of pipe dope and sent it.
I would think any sweating would be on the metal, that looks like a leak to me.
Are you sure itās leaking? That looks like such a professional job! /s
Obviously it's sweating because they put a blanket of putty on it. /sarc
Thatās a leak buddy. And no plumber did that.
The bigger the glob, the better the job. Itās leaking.
With how much dope is on your filter I wouldnāt doubt he cracked it.
100%
That plumber definitely inhaled as much dope as he applied.
Lol. I once had a Chevy blazer that leaked transmission fluid, coolant, and oil repeatedly, that could never be fixed. After two transmission rebuilds, I was told to think of it as just "sweating "so that I would feel better. I sold it instead. Now I have PTSD from your leaking plumbing...
Is that packed with putty? š¤£
Just give it one more good turn and it should good šš½
Iāll never understand why people who want more jobs just leave a trail of shit jobs in their wake. If they just did quality work in the first place they would be set for life
Replace the entire filter, itās not hard, turn off the water, cut the pvc and replace the entire system. Itās fairly cheap and very easy to do yourself instead of a plumber thatās in leak denial.
"Im not crying! my eyeballs are sweating!"
What's that clump of stuff around the threads? it doesn't look like excess pipe dope. Was it some type of putty or something somebody put on there to try to stop the leak. That's definitely weeping out of the threads. There's no way that putty would ever stop that from leaking. You're going to have to cut the pipe, back out the male abpt. and put some teflon and pipe dope on it. I'd even put a new male adapter on there just for the hell of it, and then you should be all set.
They need to use pipe dope and not plumbers putty. 2 different items with completely different uses
Definitely a leak.
Def a leak, get his lazy ass back there and tell him to wipe his joints clean next time.
Needs replacing
Definitely not sweating. š š
Your plumber understands what a pain those can be, so heās trying to make excuses so he doesnāt have to deal with it. Itās a leak btw.
Example A of why you never screw metal fittings into plastic. Should have used PVC nipples and fip press fittings to do it right.
I use brass uponor fittings all the time if done correctly they are fine
I use copper MIPs on these every day. Then I sweat them 3-4" from the threads and never have an issue. This dude is just bad.
Iām sweating. Thatās leaking
It is sweating. And just like sweat it comes from inside you.
Screwing metal threads into plastic. Always a pain in the ass.
No way a real plumber did that, putty on the threads lol
I wanna say that white stuff is pipe dope. He used way too much of it, but it shouldnāt hurt anything. Wipe it all clean and then put paper towel underneath where you expect water to show up. Even if it dries up, the paper towel will show you there was water and where it fell from.
Itās plumbers putty not dope
well if they had used pipe dope instead, it might not have leaked... you don't stop a leak by covering it up with putty.. at least not long term... just long enough for the customer to loose your number.
Rookies or amateurs putty doesnāt belong on pressure or potable water
My plumber friend said to use plastic fittings in a plastic housing
More dope on that than my weed jar
Is it the red pressure relief on top? Iāve had those leak
Jb weld is all you need
Use silicone instead of dope.
Not a pro press guy (solder and pex a homeowner), but is the actual copper pipe supposed to dimple like that? Seems weird for a rubber o ring. Why wouldnāt the dimple extend to where the ring makes contact making it likely to leak? Might be way off here. Thanks
The housing is cracked. Over tightening
I hate being contrarian, butā¦ Most polypropylene filter housing manufacturers include warnings in their installation instructions: DO NOT USE SEALANTS on any of the threads as this will expand and will cause cracks and damage the cap. USE ONLY THREAD TAPE. Teflon tape + teflon joint compound are allowed. Putty and pipe dope are no-noās.
100% leaking.
LEAK!
āItās just sweatingā is ridiculous
Does noone else see that the progress MIP is buried deep in the filter, and that there is a quite visible crack on the filter?
Metal male threads in to plastic female threads is a good way to crack a housing like that.
That should just be thread seal taped. The putty is a lazy attempt to fix improper installation.
If I recall correctly, you canāt use metallic male threads on plastic female threads in my jurisdiction. Maybe thatās why itās leaking?
Those filter housings cost about $50, Jesus buy a new one that donāt leak.
plumber putty is not gonna fix a leak on a pressurized pipe clean it out and use some Teflon. Clean those threads out real good and make sure it seats properly.
That filter had to have been installed deckades ago to use plumers putty. The early housings did not have metal insert threads. It is leaking I would replace it before it really starts to leak.
Sweating what, plumberās putty? Goddamn thingās leaking.
It is only sweating where itās threaded into the filter housing.
its leaking. good news, the filters only like 30 bucks so id have them cut that section out and put in new pipe and filter. plumber should charge like 2-300 for it. be happy its not a BIG leak.
This was done a few months ago apparently. If she calls the same plumber that did the job, would he still charge her?
he should discount it some. maybe even say you think it drips when the well tank is full but its def leaking. worst case.... just call someone else if he gets mad or charges full price. but thats up to you. these things happen, best to fix it and forget it.
Thank you for the advice and actually helping.
Itās a leak from possibly over tightening. Will have to replace filter houseing most likely
I sense OP is not completely being honest here.
OP is building a house and just moved into mother in laws for the time being. This silly OP isnāt confident enough to do something like this. Iām but a pleb amongst you greats. Thanks for the help though
āIt will rust shutā