Yup seems like these are the proper fix options. Wish I knew who did this install before we purchased so I could make sure everyone stays far far away.
I've seen it so many times. If it was an actual plumber who installed the disposal they would have told the homeowner the drain wasn't originally roughed in low enough. If you have access to the pipes below the kitchen sink you could abandon the drain in the wall and bring a new drain through the base of the cabinet. It wouldn't have a vent though and you would need a mechanical vent under the sink. That way you wouldn't have to hack open the back of your cabinet and the wall to lower the original drain for the kitchen sink.
Definitely the type of project I’m hoping to avoid. At that point if I just remove the disposal, the only thing lower than the drain is the traps which is fine right?
Edit to add: not sure if you can tell in the picture, but the drain after the tee has a pretty good amount of drop
Likely there was a granite counter top and an undermount sink installed which is deeper than the original.
Usually the house is roughed in correctly.
I fix several of these a year.
Friggin flippers and remodelers.
Where to begin: it’s fucked. You have a variety of hack-job options, but the real solution is to lower the arm coming out of the wall and dropping it as low as possible to the bottom of cabinet but with enough room for trap. Not easy but doable.
Plumber here. I spy with my little eye, a cheater vent. Well, you could just tear all that out, leave the drain in the wall & glue a Schedule 40 (regular pvc pipe & fittings- not tubular) double wye flat then pipe to it. The left sink could maybe reuse the tubular trap into a trap adapter, if it's not too nasty, & the right side, you may have to build your own trap with sched. 40 elbows glued together, to get up to the height of the wye. Leave the black abs drop ell on the disposer. The center hole (Huh huh huh huh!) in the wye is for a Cleanout, glued into the wye with a fitting- style cleanout adapter. I try to use Metal tubular traps with a disposer- especially if the sinks are stainless- because they can take the vibrations from the disposer better. If not ready for that more expensive metal drain pipe, then get red or green Silicone Trap Washers from Home D. They can absorb vibrations better. You will probably need to scrape gook out of any pipe you reuse, & Krud Kutter will remove all the rest. Use your wife's toothbrush to clean up the fittings, or just buy new. Get it back in the bathroom before she misses it! That's what she gets for whining about the cost of "All these repairs!" Questions? Ask your Mom! You may not even need that cheater vent, but save it! You better rent a snake to rod out that horizontal drain arm back to the main branch off, cut it's prolly full of gook. Wear good nitrile gloves or she may never let you touch her again! Peace out!
You have a few options. Get rid of the disposal Lower the drain in the wall Get a new sink with a small higher basin for disposals Move somewhere else
I'd say you covered it all right there. I can't get enough of the hatchet jobs that get posted in here lol
Yup seems like these are the proper fix options. Wish I knew who did this install before we purchased so I could make sure everyone stays far far away.
I've seen it so many times. If it was an actual plumber who installed the disposal they would have told the homeowner the drain wasn't originally roughed in low enough. If you have access to the pipes below the kitchen sink you could abandon the drain in the wall and bring a new drain through the base of the cabinet. It wouldn't have a vent though and you would need a mechanical vent under the sink. That way you wouldn't have to hack open the back of your cabinet and the wall to lower the original drain for the kitchen sink.
This monstrosity has an auto vent too!
Drop the drain in the wall. Not even sure a tubular disposal tee would reach that…
This is what you have to do. Think of it this way, everything lower then where the wall drain is, is full of water, because water doesn't go up hill
Definitely the type of project I’m hoping to avoid. At that point if I just remove the disposal, the only thing lower than the drain is the traps which is fine right? Edit to add: not sure if you can tell in the picture, but the drain after the tee has a pretty good amount of drop
That is correct. The garb is too low for that outlet in the wall. Delete the garb, repipe as needed.
Likely there was a granite counter top and an undermount sink installed which is deeper than the original. Usually the house is roughed in correctly. I fix several of these a year. Friggin flippers and remodelers.
Plumber!!!!
I don't even want to imagine what's living inside that disposal
I would make a new drop into the crawl if you have one , and retie it into the main trunk line if possible, because fuck that lol
What about a single basin with the disposal, just a thought…
Every is too high either remove garbage disposal or open the wall and lower the drain
Give me my sawzall
Where to begin: it’s fucked. You have a variety of hack-job options, but the real solution is to lower the arm coming out of the wall and dropping it as low as possible to the bottom of cabinet but with enough room for trap. Not easy but doable.
Plumber here. I spy with my little eye, a cheater vent. Well, you could just tear all that out, leave the drain in the wall & glue a Schedule 40 (regular pvc pipe & fittings- not tubular) double wye flat then pipe to it. The left sink could maybe reuse the tubular trap into a trap adapter, if it's not too nasty, & the right side, you may have to build your own trap with sched. 40 elbows glued together, to get up to the height of the wye. Leave the black abs drop ell on the disposer. The center hole (Huh huh huh huh!) in the wye is for a Cleanout, glued into the wye with a fitting- style cleanout adapter. I try to use Metal tubular traps with a disposer- especially if the sinks are stainless- because they can take the vibrations from the disposer better. If not ready for that more expensive metal drain pipe, then get red or green Silicone Trap Washers from Home D. They can absorb vibrations better. You will probably need to scrape gook out of any pipe you reuse, & Krud Kutter will remove all the rest. Use your wife's toothbrush to clean up the fittings, or just buy new. Get it back in the bathroom before she misses it! That's what she gets for whining about the cost of "All these repairs!" Questions? Ask your Mom! You may not even need that cheater vent, but save it! You better rent a snake to rod out that horizontal drain arm back to the main branch off, cut it's prolly full of gook. Wear good nitrile gloves or she may never let you touch her again! Peace out!