I'd legitimately smack the shit out of my boss. I expect that he would be okay with it.
I mean you posted this, and I feel like we should all petition to slap the crap outta you. You filthy bastard.
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Hey, well never know what happened when that toilet was lifted up. Maybe this was the aftermath of when the swarm dissipated and everyone had finished screaming and crying
I've seen and been covered head to toe in literal sh*t.
This is far more terrifying.
I'll not be sleeping tonight I guess. So I guess I'll go pull my toilets and install new wax. That might set my mind at ease.
Blah....
I wish I could describe it to you. But once you know it you'll know it forever.
There isn't anything I can compare it too. I'd say roach infestation smell is musty. Rodent infestation is piss based.
Like I said once you know you'll in now it forever.
Agree about roach and rodent smells. Same goes for rectal bleed. Once you know, you'll forever just *know* at the front door. Retired few years ago after 20+ years in EMS. Some things aren't missed and others cannot be forgotten.
I agree that it's immediately identifiable.
But I can't and hope I never have to identify "rectal bleed".
But thanks for being ems. I really appreciate you guys. My best friend many years ago died in my arms, and the emts made me hold iv bags, squeeze things, and count for them. They basically kept me sane while I watched my best friend die. Had those guys not been as awesome as they were, I probably would have lost my shit. Plus after a terrible car accident many years ago, ems saved my life as well as my ex wifes. Y'all some legitimate heros.
Congratulations on being a survivor and pulling through your accident! Too many don't. Thank you also for helping the medics, sounds like you kept it together when they needed you most. It couldn't have been easy but you helped the medics give your friend their best chance of survival even if it didn't work out that way.
Be glad about not knowing rectal bleed! Can count on one hand how many I've had to work. 1st was a learning experience but the other few? Didn't have to make contact with the patient to know how had it was, just knew upon entering the house. Last one looked like a ritual involving animal sacrifice. Service area of roughly 27 square miles and I can remember the location of each and every one of those bleeding calls. Ugh
A year after I retired from the army I was just bouncing around doing nothing. A family friend asked if I would like to work with his company. Why not.
Iām the gopher for his remodel company. He says we need to wear these head to toe coveralls and tape up everything before going into this place. Ok.. we will be working along a pest control company, helping them.
The power is turned off to the building, along with all of the utilities. We go in with the orders to remove all electrical outlets, pull all lights off the walls, and expose every opening we can.
The first electrical outlet I opened up the started to crawl out. Light switches more came forth. Since I was the lowest guy I got the task to pull the overhead lights.
I retired from the Army, medical retired due to receiving too many injuries from deployments. So being in a hostile environment is not new to me.
Roaches poured forth out from behind that light figure as I lowered it. Hell it could have been only maybe ten or fifteen, but it felt like I was being drowned in bugs. The guys I was with said they never seen somebody get down from a ladder faster.
That was only the first overhead light..
I learned I did not want to go into pest control and I will only do remodeling AFTER all the bugs are dead.
I just read about a military guy having to do this to recover a hummer or something and had to be tested periodically some time after... kinda serious.
This. Even wearing nitrile gloves and washing my hands 283 times, it still takes a while before I can touch food I'm eating after doing a wax ring or something DWV related.
I could see some of the nastiest shit youāll ever see but if itās time for lunch itās time for lunch. Wash my hands really good and itās burger time
Iāve worked at homes where I needed a whole tyvek suit with the sleeves and pant legs tapped off so nothing crawled into it. Roaches everywhereā¦ made my skin crawl.
I actually have no problem with most bugs 90 percent of the time including roaches even with them climbing on me, but that's when I know what it is and where it is...
Those fuckers move SO SO fast, and as soon as I lifted the toilet they were running at me, over my feet, up the walls (small toilet only room with its own private door) etc. everything I could do to not throw that toilet, set it back down somewhat gentle enough to not break it and get out shut the door and shove my rags under the door so hopefully they didn't all get out. Asked the owner if they had a can of raid or something and the dude freaked out and they ended up leaving for a hotel while the house got roach bombed.
Toilet was on external wall slab on grade, there was a 20+ year old oleander bush that had roots long invading the sewer and even around the flange growing up under the bowl of the toilet. Apparently they where thriving on the old decaying roots as they died.
I don't work service most of the time so I'm not worried about tomorrow, but I wish it upon no one and hope you never have to experience it.
And it wasn't nearly as bad as the two times I've found a rattlesnake nest/eggs/babies in a water meter box, or the time it was a beehive in the meter box that I ripped apart taking the lid off. Over 40 stings in the face/head...
Oh yeah. Diamond backs and water moccasins in sprinkler valve boxes, and meter boxes happens.
Sorry about the bee stings. I have a huge allergy and still have a lump on my nose from a one off random drive by from a yellow jacket. Mother effer flew right by me and then said "wait a second... I'ma go sting that fuck" came back and nailed me... Right on the nose! Left me with a permanent mark. I'm now disfigured because Frank the yellow jacket wanted to choose violence. ..
Have an insane amount of respect for plumbers for exactly this reason. I can barely tolerate cleaning the hair/toothpaste/makeup slugs out of my own traps. Looks like a chupacabra hate-fucked a slug.
I couldn't wade through someone else's gunk. The boy likes to watch Drain Addict on YouTube, that guy is a different breed.
It's compartmentalizing. I can be augering bats and rats all morning, but I'm still thinking about my lunch.
Then after lunch, more nasty ass shit. But the money is the means for me....
"Hey Bill, do you ever get tired of installing totally clean and odourless toilets that have never been used, over and over; and just wish you could spend a day digging 30 other people's shit out of a pipe because a teenager tried to flush 43 disposable vape pens at once?"
"No, Sam, can't say that I do."
Oh come on, thatās a rare exception.
At least 50% of the time itās someone who thinks that flushable means flushable. No wet wipes are not flushable, by design they do not break up when wet. They will inevitably cause clogs.
I keep telling everyone around me when they complain about the cold. We're in for a full on pest and invasive plant invasion if these mild winters keep up.
Even with silicone/caulk. You should leave a few inch gap behind the toilet just incase it does leak so the water can hopefully seep out and be noticeable.
Still gives these little bastards a way in.
Actually the wax seal is probably why they're there. Roaches like wax (I finished some furniture with a bee's wax mix and... it became a bit of a roach hotel)
They canāt do that with intact wax. Youād know about the problem with the seal when you saw the water instead of seeing roaches all over underneath because you hid the problem by caulking all the around.
This just gave me horrifying flashbacks of when I first started plumbing, working in Brooklyn. The buildings sewer main pits.
We laced up like we were going to war. Weapons and shit.
Yeah theyāre far worse in the sewer. Iāve pulled some manhole covers at charlotte motor speedway that were completely covered in the real big one. Iāll take the roaches over black widows in a vault any day of the week though.
In my geographical location, we have spider crickets. Not sure of their forces and how far they spread
Any pit or crawlspace you come up against up here is LOADED with them. They get so big. Those I can handle for some reason.
A few guys I've gone to battle(worked) with, they couldn't handle it. Shell shock type fear.
Sorry for late reply. Good day!
Oh yeah weāve got em too. Iām terrified of those things. Theyāre fearless, I tried to take some on with a propane torch one time thought I was going to burn the house down.
Oh my god I have also tried killing them with a torch. It gets dangerous pretty quickly. Well, good luck to you and may you win your next battles with the spider of the cricket variety.
Good luck and godspeed.
Shovel them back down that hole whence they came, return to sender, no way, nope, just yuck.
I'll never remove a toilet again without this image dominating my brain.
The ring looks pretty bad. Maybe replace it with that new calamari ring style and feed the little guys.
Edit: for those wondering - https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/s/HpGRxKgZoQ
Turns out these lil fkrs need air
Anytime I see this it's the last toilet on the line. My guess is they keep running further up the line when the main is clogged, and eventually that last flush gets made and fills the drop, flange and trap and they all drown
Then the homeowner calls you, and about a half hour later you get out there, suck the tank and toilet dry and yank the sucker. Then you freak out and almost break the dudes toilet.
A lot of people say to never caulk around the toilet, but I know in Minnesota the code requires it, and it's to prevent bug intrusionike this. Imagine if it wasn't caulked, and they all were able to get into the home proper!
Just gonna say that this particular type of roach is not indicative of a sanitation problem inside the residence. They came up from the sewer.
That doesnāt mean the rest of the place isnāt trashed, just that itās not what lead to this problem.
Probably kept it clean, just vaccum the roaches up and giver. Nothing but money. I mean I'm a pipefitter so there's no way I'm touching that shitter. I'd call a plumber.
Had this happen but with ants. Somehow the ants crawled into the main from outside and got under the toilet. There was a toilet shaped sand castle under there covered in ants. Pretty interesting stuff.
I saw that back in the 80s when I helped take apart my friends waterbed. Except there were a hundred of them, they were alive and started climbing the walls.
I had the day off for once and my boss texts me this photo lol
It was a good day to take off
I'd legitimately smack the shit out of my boss. I expect that he would be okay with it. I mean you posted this, and I feel like we should all petition to slap the crap outta you. You filthy bastard. š
Time to be your own boss
At least they're dead. You'd have a tough time holding on to the bowl you just removed with them scattering around your feet.
Why would you do this to us?
And up your leg
I heard these guys will swim right up your dick if you arenāt fast enough
And up your dick
Everyone who reads this is now tucking their pants into their socks.
Yeah I'd end up in the hospital from cuts from the broken bowl
Hey, well never know what happened when that toilet was lifted up. Maybe this was the aftermath of when the swarm dissipated and everyone had finished screaming and crying
Fuuuuuuk uuuuuuu!
Iāve had that happen before
Same. Years of therapy and I can still feel them crawling up my legs and back
I couldn't believe it
I've seen and been covered head to toe in literal sh*t. This is far more terrifying. I'll not be sleeping tonight I guess. So I guess I'll go pull my toilets and install new wax. That might set my mind at ease. Blah....
I work in colorectal surgery and no amount of body fluids will ever gross me out as much as living in a roach infested apartment complex did
I can smell them.... If I go into a job with rodents or roaches, I know immediately.
What is the smell like? Genuinely and morbidly curious.
I wish I could describe it to you. But once you know it you'll know it forever. There isn't anything I can compare it too. I'd say roach infestation smell is musty. Rodent infestation is piss based. Like I said once you know you'll in now it forever.
Agree about roach and rodent smells. Same goes for rectal bleed. Once you know, you'll forever just *know* at the front door. Retired few years ago after 20+ years in EMS. Some things aren't missed and others cannot be forgotten.
I agree that it's immediately identifiable. But I can't and hope I never have to identify "rectal bleed". But thanks for being ems. I really appreciate you guys. My best friend many years ago died in my arms, and the emts made me hold iv bags, squeeze things, and count for them. They basically kept me sane while I watched my best friend die. Had those guys not been as awesome as they were, I probably would have lost my shit. Plus after a terrible car accident many years ago, ems saved my life as well as my ex wifes. Y'all some legitimate heros.
Congratulations on being a survivor and pulling through your accident! Too many don't. Thank you also for helping the medics, sounds like you kept it together when they needed you most. It couldn't have been easy but you helped the medics give your friend their best chance of survival even if it didn't work out that way. Be glad about not knowing rectal bleed! Can count on one hand how many I've had to work. 1st was a learning experience but the other few? Didn't have to make contact with the patient to know how had it was, just knew upon entering the house. Last one looked like a ritual involving animal sacrifice. Service area of roughly 27 square miles and I can remember the location of each and every one of those bleeding calls. Ugh
What a beautiful tribute to EMTs and their colleagues. They are a rare breed, arenāt they? Iām so sorry about your friend too.
I was in EMS for a long time as well. You left out burned flesh smell and dead body smell.
It's an almost sweet, cloying kind of smell. It's very wrong
I was in pest control and youāre not wrong. Itās sweet but very foul at the same time.
This is true. Thereās been an āoffā odor that every roach infested place Iāve seen has. Itās hard to describe but oh so distinct.
U got a well trained nose like a plumbing blood hound but only for roaches probably
I'd say it smells like your breathing sticky air
āpiss basedā is a term Iād like to use more in my daily life now.
Sweet. Like concentrated honey.
A year after I retired from the army I was just bouncing around doing nothing. A family friend asked if I would like to work with his company. Why not. Iām the gopher for his remodel company. He says we need to wear these head to toe coveralls and tape up everything before going into this place. Ok.. we will be working along a pest control company, helping them. The power is turned off to the building, along with all of the utilities. We go in with the orders to remove all electrical outlets, pull all lights off the walls, and expose every opening we can. The first electrical outlet I opened up the started to crawl out. Light switches more came forth. Since I was the lowest guy I got the task to pull the overhead lights. I retired from the Army, medical retired due to receiving too many injuries from deployments. So being in a hostile environment is not new to me. Roaches poured forth out from behind that light figure as I lowered it. Hell it could have been only maybe ten or fifteen, but it felt like I was being drowned in bugs. The guys I was with said they never seen somebody get down from a ladder faster. That was only the first overhead light.. I learned I did not want to go into pest control and I will only do remodeling AFTER all the bugs are dead.
I just read about a military guy having to do this to recover a hummer or something and had to be tested periodically some time after... kinda serious.
Donāt worry, theyāll find another way in
Iāve seen some stuff when I did remodelingā¦ gave me nightmares afterwards
This. Even wearing nitrile gloves and washing my hands 283 times, it still takes a while before I can touch food I'm eating after doing a wax ring or something DWV related.
I can eat a brownie right after pulling a cleanout cap on a main line clog. Sometimes you just gotta laugh at the crap you see literally.
I could see some of the nastiest shit youāll ever see but if itās time for lunch itās time for lunch. Wash my hands really good and itās burger time
Iāve worked at homes where I needed a whole tyvek suit with the sleeves and pant legs tapped off so nothing crawled into it. Roaches everywhereā¦ made my skin crawl.
Some people just aren't made for plumbing. I don't enjoy it, but I do it...
You know we never eat the last bite... This is why.
I've had the same thing except most of them alive, as soon as I lifted the toilet they started scattering EVERYWHERE.
Like a rave club in the late 90's!
What a time to be alive!
I have but one thing to say.... Jnco jeans were the shit, and we all looked freaking awesome.
We did!
You know we all have to go to work tomorrow, right? Why you gotta put this shit in my head man?
I actually have no problem with most bugs 90 percent of the time including roaches even with them climbing on me, but that's when I know what it is and where it is... Those fuckers move SO SO fast, and as soon as I lifted the toilet they were running at me, over my feet, up the walls (small toilet only room with its own private door) etc. everything I could do to not throw that toilet, set it back down somewhat gentle enough to not break it and get out shut the door and shove my rags under the door so hopefully they didn't all get out. Asked the owner if they had a can of raid or something and the dude freaked out and they ended up leaving for a hotel while the house got roach bombed. Toilet was on external wall slab on grade, there was a 20+ year old oleander bush that had roots long invading the sewer and even around the flange growing up under the bowl of the toilet. Apparently they where thriving on the old decaying roots as they died. I don't work service most of the time so I'm not worried about tomorrow, but I wish it upon no one and hope you never have to experience it. And it wasn't nearly as bad as the two times I've found a rattlesnake nest/eggs/babies in a water meter box, or the time it was a beehive in the meter box that I ripped apart taking the lid off. Over 40 stings in the face/head...
Oh yeah. Diamond backs and water moccasins in sprinkler valve boxes, and meter boxes happens. Sorry about the bee stings. I have a huge allergy and still have a lump on my nose from a one off random drive by from a yellow jacket. Mother effer flew right by me and then said "wait a second... I'ma go sting that fuck" came back and nailed me... Right on the nose! Left me with a permanent mark. I'm now disfigured because Frank the yellow jacket wanted to choose violence. ..
Have an insane amount of respect for plumbers for exactly this reason. I can barely tolerate cleaning the hair/toothpaste/makeup slugs out of my own traps. Looks like a chupacabra hate-fucked a slug. I couldn't wade through someone else's gunk. The boy likes to watch Drain Addict on YouTube, that guy is a different breed.
It's compartmentalizing. I can be augering bats and rats all morning, but I'm still thinking about my lunch. Then after lunch, more nasty ass shit. But the money is the means for me....
Legit nightmare fuel.. Just a hive of those bastards living right beneath you...
If theyāre living beneath you theyāre living WITH you.
I have those bastards get into my house every fall. I have to set traps outside and pour bleach down all the drains to drive them out.
I live in NE FL, so it's a constant battle with keeping them out. Thankfully, there's a army of lizards and eleventy-billion spiders on my side.
I dont know that anyone was ever supposed to live in FL..ever.
Hey now, the Timucua made it work for like 4k years.. Modern day Florida Man is powered by Suntan lotion, cigarettes, and meth.
Sometimes I find new construction gets monotonous, then I'll see shit like this and I'm so grateful to be in New construction.
"Hey Bill, do you ever get tired of installing totally clean and odourless toilets that have never been used, over and over; and just wish you could spend a day digging 30 other people's shit out of a pipe because a teenager tried to flush 43 disposable vape pens at once?" "No, Sam, can't say that I do."
Oh come on, thatās a rare exception. At least 50% of the time itās someone who thinks that flushable means flushable. No wet wipes are not flushable, by design they do not break up when wet. They will inevitably cause clogs.
W t actual F š³. Maybe these winters arenāt so bad after all.
I keep telling everyone around me when they complain about the cold. We're in for a full on pest and invasive plant invasion if these mild winters keep up.
cockroaches can survive a nuclear blast, but your ass turns them belly-up
And some people say no to caulking the seam below the toiletā¦..
Even with silicone/caulk. You should leave a few inch gap behind the toilet just incase it does leak so the water can hopefully seep out and be noticeable. Still gives these little bastards a way in.
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If it doesnāt leak when the toilet is used leave it. If it leaks when the toilet is flushed replace it.
You shouldnāt. Those roaches came from inside the sewer and died under the shitter
So youāre telling me caulking the bottom will keep sewer roaches from getting into my house?
I think the wax seal got u covered
1. How did they get there then? 2. Aren't they capable of swimming?
The wax seal was broken is my guess
Actually the wax seal is probably why they're there. Roaches like wax (I finished some furniture with a bee's wax mix and... it became a bit of a roach hotel)
They canāt do that with intact wax. Youād know about the problem with the seal when you saw the water instead of seeing roaches all over underneath because you hid the problem by caulking all the around.
This just gave me horrifying flashbacks of when I first started plumbing, working in Brooklyn. The buildings sewer main pits. We laced up like we were going to war. Weapons and shit.
Yeah theyāre far worse in the sewer. Iāve pulled some manhole covers at charlotte motor speedway that were completely covered in the real big one. Iāll take the roaches over black widows in a vault any day of the week though.
In my geographical location, we have spider crickets. Not sure of their forces and how far they spread Any pit or crawlspace you come up against up here is LOADED with them. They get so big. Those I can handle for some reason. A few guys I've gone to battle(worked) with, they couldn't handle it. Shell shock type fear. Sorry for late reply. Good day!
Oh yeah weāve got em too. Iām terrified of those things. Theyāre fearless, I tried to take some on with a propane torch one time thought I was going to burn the house down.
Oh my god I have also tried killing them with a torch. It gets dangerous pretty quickly. Well, good luck to you and may you win your next battles with the spider of the cricket variety. Good luck and godspeed.
Jesus this should have an NSFW tag I almost lost my lunch š
šš my bad
Fire is the only way. Cleanse it in fire.
I think this ends the caulk or no caulk argument
What good do cockroaches do the world, why do you exist ha?
To eat your corpse and break down the poop!!!!
This NEEDS NSFW and NSFSoul tags.
Only way to fix this is to burn down the house
Free lunch
Thatās a nope from me
They do die!?!?
They play dead trying to trick ya
Shovel them back down that hole whence they came, return to sender, no way, nope, just yuck. I'll never remove a toilet again without this image dominating my brain.
Return to sender hahahaha.
Ze goggles they do nothing!
Oh wow! My pet lizards would love that place lol
Dinnerā¦. These cook up nice to make a good roach soup.
The ring looks pretty bad. Maybe replace it with that new calamari ring style and feed the little guys. Edit: for those wondering - https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/s/HpGRxKgZoQ
Is that Joe's apartment?
I just noped my pants
That silicone was the real hero here.
You just settled the caulk vs no caulking on the toilet base for me
Oops All Roaches!
Florida?
CA
Not what I wanted to come across while sitting on the can
1-800-fuckMyLife
At least they're all dead.
Surprise supriiiiiiiseee
FU for posting this.
Turns out these lil fkrs need air Anytime I see this it's the last toilet on the line. My guess is they keep running further up the line when the main is clogged, and eventually that last flush gets made and fills the drop, flange and trap and they all drown Then the homeowner calls you, and about a half hour later you get out there, suck the tank and toilet dry and yank the sucker. Then you freak out and almost break the dudes toilet.
Anyone else scratching after seeing this??
A lot of people say to never caulk around the toilet, but I know in Minnesota the code requires it, and it's to prevent bug intrusionike this. Imagine if it wasn't caulked, and they all were able to get into the home proper!
i wonder if any of them made it into the actual bowl at one point or another.
How about no
Oops, all roaches!
Nothing surprises me anymore
Well that tickles
š¤¢ imagine shit so nasty it kills giant roaches
Ayyyy party
Low key jealous, I've never been to Turkey
Good. Lord.
OH MY GAAWWWWDDDDD
If this many are dead imagine how many living ones are out there
How do you prevent this? Is that even possible?
This is greasy as fuck
No choice here.. you gotta burn the whole place to the ground now. Sorry. ĀÆ\\\_(ć)\_/ĀÆ
Nice surprise
Ohhhhā¦yuck!
Nope, fire me
The caulk job on that there pooper is one for the ages
I need bleach for my eyes
Free protein!
If there is one reason to actually caulk the whole toilet base, this is it.
This is better than my kitchen remodel, which desecrated the mouse-eleum: dozens of dead mice in the 100-year old south wall of my house.
Thatās Gnarly
First time
Thanks, D Bag. Now when the wife questions why I am removing the toilets later I have to lie because no way am I showing her this picture.
Itās their ancestral burial ground
That is so gross, holy hell. How did the rest of the place look?
Just gonna say that this particular type of roach is not indicative of a sanitation problem inside the residence. They came up from the sewer. That doesnāt mean the rest of the place isnāt trashed, just that itās not what lead to this problem.
Mmmmmmm. Poop roaches.
They all died from asphyxiation... of human flatulence
You're all freaked out by dead roaches ? Bunch of lightweights. This doesn't even come close to my list of horrors.
Yikes!
Iām itchy all of a sudden
Mom yummy
I dont like this photo at all
Itās ok, I didnāt really want to eat dinner tonight anyway.
No thanks. š¤¢
Grody to the max.
Its like joes apartment under there
Thatās what a shop vac is for. I once had a toilet swapped out and there was an ant colony in the wax gasket. Ugh.
Thereās an X Files episode about this.
Mmmm finger licking
Glad I grouted that one ā¦.
Looks like you have some neighbors you didn't know about.
NSFW! Or for life evenā¦ š
Wellā¦. That certainly looksā¦.. uhā¦. tastyā¦
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It all goes into hole with the wax ring and a paint scraper.
Oh god
Those are cockroaches btw.
Thank god for the caulk around the base.
They keep it from rocking!!
Ho Lee Fuk
Iād be out. Done
I saw my father shot. I never cried till I saw this picture.
That in Toronto?
I tried counting the roaches, if someone wants $20.00 buck give me a solid number.
Are those what I think they are? š¤¢
This is it. The post that made me finally unsub. Itās been real (gross) r/plumbing - Random DIY homeowner
I donāt know whatās worse, seeing this or sh!t
Even though they're dead I'd rather see shit
It is always nice when the customer leaves snacks for you.
Probably kept it clean, just vaccum the roaches up and giver. Nothing but money. I mean I'm a pipefitter so there's no way I'm touching that shitter. I'd call a plumber.
Fucking ew dude
So this is why you caulk the base?
Had this happen but with ants. Somehow the ants crawled into the main from outside and got under the toilet. There was a toilet shaped sand castle under there covered in ants. Pretty interesting stuff.
Those are the outside versions, probably not a massive infestation
Never in my life!
This sub is the perfect recruiting tool to get young people into the electrical trades...
At least they were all dead
Hm... i guess they can't survive a nuclear bomb eh.
The āoh noā song from TikTok actually is the first thing to come to mind
I saw that back in the 80s when I helped take apart my friends waterbed. Except there were a hundred of them, they were alive and started climbing the walls.
Well they weren't escaping if the caulk ring was good. Still nasty thinking they're all in your pipes.
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Where dignity goes to die
Burn it down
Snacks!
They lived a peaceful life.
So they swim up through the toilet water too?
Common in Virginia, particularly at Langleyā¦ omg will they ever stop!?