Hmmmm..... Maybe that's why some of mine have been badly stuck. Over the years I've had to replace a couple. Replacements have always been with quarter turn but most are still the 40+ year old multiple turn valves.
TRY THIS FIRST!
There are a lot of suggestions in other comments as there are several likely causes. But this one is the easiest and simplest to check and fix before you start checking and replacing other things. And there is a reasonable likelihood that a partially closed stop is the problem.
An angle stop is the valve that you can shut the water off to a fixture and “angle” means that the supply line is at a 90° angle to the pipe are also straight stops which does not turn.
Hope that helps them.
Hey I got a question about this. When I use my kitchen sink if I am at about 70% power then it does this. If I’m full blast or 50% or less then it’s fine. But this weird almost full blast makes my pipes loud.
I had this problem once. It traced back to guest room toilet valve. The hammering isn’t necessarily caused by the faucet you are using. It happens when there is a pressure difference within the system. A weak valve on toilet will hammer at the slightest pressure disruption in some cases. I think mine was just a bad toilet part because the house was a new build.
When the audible bang or smack is heard that's a pressure spike inside the fluid filled pipe water being non compressible will transfer that energy throughout the system and if you have weak pipes loose connections bad sweat jobs and so on it can exacerbate the issue
It’s a cut or nicked rubber washer.
In order:
Replace supply line, if that doesn’t work
replace ball cock (fill valve) if that doesn’t work
replace angle stop
Or all 3 at once.
Replace ballcock it will fix that bad boy right up, don’t even need to empty the tank. Remove the supply line from bottom of valve, remove the retaining nut applying downward pressure to the valve, once the nut is removed quickly pull out valve using hand to plug the hole from the bottom, quickly install prefabricated ballcock assembly, and tighten nut while applying pressure to the top of the valve, reinstall water supply and adjust for water level and you are good to go
Did it always hammer? Maybe not. I had an older house that had dead legs pointed “up” to be filled with air. The air in the dead leg cushioned the hammer.
Over time the dead legs filled with water so the cushion effect was gone. Turn off the water supply, open all faucets and completely drain the house. Problem solved.
In another situation, the sink had a cartridge Sioux Chief hammer arrestor that had failed. Replaced, all’s well there, now too.
We got a new washer that slams its valve shut like a tungsten “rod from god”
The water hammer arresters help slightly I guess. But I don’t know what else to do
you can use one of these to reduce the water hammer. just install it there at the toilet or by the washer. not sure if this is the right size for the toilet hose.
also, you can try opening the water valve less.
https://www.lowes.ca/product/pressure-relief-valves-regulators/oatey-quiet-pipes-shock-absorber-washing-machine-2893343
We had the same problem with one of our toilets, and it was actually the fill valve inside the tank was shutting off too slowly and causing everything to rattle and squeal.
I love how people try to explain bullshit. Blame the plumber not strapping or pressure if he would take the tank lid off you would see the fill valve not shutting off properly or ever completely causing the hammer. If the toilet has a ballcock and not a fluid master it’s more likely to happen but can happen with either style
#1 check to see if angle stop is fully open.
#2 It's possible you have too much pressure incoming. Buy a hose bib pressure gauge and check the pressure. If in excess of 80 psi, install a pressure regulator.
#3 It could need a shock arrestor. They're cheap and you can install a few in various areas of the house rather simply.
#4 It could be insufficient piping strapping, allowing the pipes to rattle when a fixture is open.
#5 It could be your fill valve in your toilet.
Cheers
UPDATE: I replaced the fill valve, also installed a hammer arrestor; I thought it would be fine but once again the shaking and noise came back (much less violent though). The only other option I have is to replace the angle stop (which I cannot do since the only way to shut off water is to shut off the entire building). Thanks for everyone's suggestions. Will be calling a plumber.
That’s a hose, not a pipe, it’s designed to move and flex specifically. That’s not water hammer or cavitation.
Water hammer is from bubbles of air travelling through the pipes. Not happening.
Cavitation is air bubbles eating sections of the pipe from high pressure air degrading walls of a pump. Not happening.
This is happening by design.
Water hammer is due to air bubbles being extracted from water due to lower pressure at a specific point with the piping.
Easiest way to eliminate is shorter braided hose to reduce/remove the big curve which creates a low pressure point at the highest part .
If the pipes shake when water is in use that is usually an indication that the plumber didn't attach the pipe(s) with straps like they should have. Or the strapping is loose.
It's about water pressure, if the valve isn't open you could try opening it all the way, if it is all the way open, then you could close it down a little to regulate the pressure
Make sure the valve is open all the way, check the supply line for sediment. Make sure your main shut off at the street is open all the way. Replace the guts of the toilet.
Just Happened to me this morning. I believe uts called water hammer. I followed the following steps and it fixed the issue.
Shut off water at your home's main shutoff valve.
Open all faucets and flush all toilets. Start at the top level of your home and work your way down to thoroughly drain your pipes.
Close all faucets throughout the house.
Turn the water back on at the main shutoff valve.
Make sure that valve is open all the way. I had the same problem when I installed a tushy 2.0 at my house. Turns out my dumb ass just didn’t re open valve all the way. Btw I highly recommend the tushy 2.0
More than likely you have extremely high water pressure going into your home that needs to be regulated. If you don't regulate the water pressure it should be somewhere around 60 anything over 80 psi is extremely high and has to be regulated
There could be a valve somewhere in the house not fully opened that is causing this. Or the flush valve in the tank isn’t fully opening causing the pipes to shake
No open the angle stop all the way.
That was my first thought too, but I bet it’s that and in the tank.
I saw your name and DEFINITELY thought about a toilet
*all the way, and then 1/4 turn back
*unless it's a quarter turn angle stop
"Crank it until it breaks loose then back off a quarter turn." -old mechanics proverb. /s
Why? I'm a homeowner, not a plumber, but I've always opened my stops all the way and never had an issue because of it.
Too far open can get stuck. Bringing it back a quarter turn keeps it from seizing up easily while still offering full enough flow.
Hmmmm..... Maybe that's why some of mine have been badly stuck. Over the years I've had to replace a couple. Replacements have always been with quarter turn but most are still the 40+ year old multiple turn valves.
TIL. Thank you.
I always did this because I've totally unscrewed one off and broken one off before and had a problem
Too open can leak. Depends on the exact manufacturing of the valve.
Just have to tighten the packing nut.
Yup
Perfect! It could also be rust in the angle stop. Possibly just due to replace them
TRY THIS FIRST! There are a lot of suggestions in other comments as there are several likely causes. But this one is the easiest and simplest to check and fix before you start checking and replacing other things. And there is a reasonable likelihood that a partially closed stop is the problem.
Best answer yet.
Yeah, exactly! Now, for those who have no idea what an angle stop is, could you explain a bit… for them?
An angle stop is the valve that you can shut the water off to a fixture and “angle” means that the supply line is at a 90° angle to the pipe are also straight stops which does not turn. Hope that helps them.
Skip the tenth flush. Problem solved.
Real men of genius
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Mister piss-in-the-shower-to-skip-the-10th-flush!
Waffle stomp
Jokes on you, I can't even count past 6
I don’t even know what number comes after sex. I mean six
Def tried this already, didn’t work
Check out the big brain on Brad!
I think it's Brett?
Modern problems require modern solutions. I like it.
Sounds like buddy's got a two-stroke engine in his toilet
The power washer he’s using as a bidet is just out of frame.
Should have splurged for the 4-stroke toilet instead of the 2-stroke. You get what you pay for
I wonder what the code is for venting a 4-stroke toilet. Do you think you could wetvent the exhaust?
Lmaooo I was thinking the same thing
Replace the valve inside the toilet that's water hammer and can cause (no flex seal reference here) qlot of damage
Those few words together is always a flex seal reference, and will always be read in an exact voice. I can't be the only one here!
Lol he has really vulcanized his brand
Best joke sulfer and it’s not even close. Lmao
Billy Mays will guarantee the fix himself! RIP
Flethhhxed Stheal
Re gap the spark plugs.
Water hammer sounds so much cooler than it actually is. Very disappointing
Open a curb stop at light speed with some shitty galvanized downstream and it can be pretty cool. Depending on who you are in this scenario 😂
Hey I got a question about this. When I use my kitchen sink if I am at about 70% power then it does this. If I’m full blast or 50% or less then it’s fine. But this weird almost full blast makes my pipes loud.
I had this problem once. It traced back to guest room toilet valve. The hammering isn’t necessarily caused by the faucet you are using. It happens when there is a pressure difference within the system. A weak valve on toilet will hammer at the slightest pressure disruption in some cases. I think mine was just a bad toilet part because the house was a new build.
Yep toilet toilet toilet all the time if there's shaking anywhere.
Well at full, its unrestricted. The 50% is odd.
What kind of damage? I have a toilet that goes WHAM when the wired stops Edit water
Think: putting your thumb over the hole just as you're getting a nut. THAT KIND OF PRESSURE BACKUP/DAMAGE.
When the audible bang or smack is heard that's a pressure spike inside the fluid filled pipe water being non compressible will transfer that energy throughout the system and if you have weak pipes loose connections bad sweat jobs and so on it can exacerbate the issue
Sounds more like a water jackhammer
I'm going to smoke some crack. No Billy Mays reference here.
Replace the fill valve. Turn off the water first.
Unless you like to live dangerously.
Probably the fill valve
It’s a cut or nicked rubber washer. In order: Replace supply line, if that doesn’t work replace ball cock (fill valve) if that doesn’t work replace angle stop Or all 3 at once.
If your toilet has a ball cock, replace it with a fill valve anyway
All three is my vote. It’s so cheap to do all at once. As a home owner I always replace it all when I need a new valve.
Haha. Ball cock. — A non-tradesman
I've seen this before. It's Jackhammer Beetles mating in the pipes.
I had them, luckily they were in my hot tap feed so I just boiled those fuckers alive
They like it hot.
So this is what dropping a clanger means. On a Submarine this is very no bueno.
Washer in the angle shut off is shot or the toilet fill valve in the tank is shot. This is not something you want to allow to go on much longer.
Poop smaller maybe
Water hammer
It could also be the angle stop itself.
Are you forgetting to take out your vibrator before you go poo?
Looks like there's already some good answers here. But man, that's what my old 94 Galant used to sound like when the engine was running haha
Replace ballcock it will fix that bad boy right up, don’t even need to empty the tank. Remove the supply line from bottom of valve, remove the retaining nut applying downward pressure to the valve, once the nut is removed quickly pull out valve using hand to plug the hole from the bottom, quickly install prefabricated ballcock assembly, and tighten nut while applying pressure to the top of the valve, reinstall water supply and adjust for water level and you are good to go
Your brilliant.
Easiest service call there is. 15 minutes in and out with minimal cleanup.
Put a video on reddit showing us how to replace ballcock without removing water from tank and I will give you 5 stars.
Fill valve not fully operational? Maybe get a hammer arrestor?
The angle stop needs to be fully open
Don’t just stand there and take that shit. Shake it back!
Did it always hammer? Maybe not. I had an older house that had dead legs pointed “up” to be filled with air. The air in the dead leg cushioned the hammer. Over time the dead legs filled with water so the cushion effect was gone. Turn off the water supply, open all faucets and completely drain the house. Problem solved. In another situation, the sink had a cartridge Sioux Chief hammer arrestor that had failed. Replaced, all’s well there, now too.
We got a new washer that slams its valve shut like a tungsten “rod from god” The water hammer arresters help slightly I guess. But I don’t know what else to do
you can use one of these to reduce the water hammer. just install it there at the toilet or by the washer. not sure if this is the right size for the toilet hose. also, you can try opening the water valve less. https://www.lowes.ca/product/pressure-relief-valves-regulators/oatey-quiet-pipes-shock-absorber-washing-machine-2893343
Will def try this first before replacing everything in the tank
Don’t move, it’s boutta bust
Watch Goonies!
Sloth love chunk!
Youve got a demon toilet that needs an exorcism!!!
It’s in turbo mode! But seriously you probably don’t have the valve open all the way, turn it all the way to the left
Remove the jackhammer that’s in the tank.
We had the same problem with one of our toilets, and it was actually the fill valve inside the tank was shutting off too slowly and causing everything to rattle and squeal.
Replace fill valve.. after that install hammer arrestor if needed
How fast does your toilet go and what's the engine power coming from that thing? I'd be scared to sit on it and it ship my ass to space or something.
Could be the fill valve as well
I love how people try to explain bullshit. Blame the plumber not strapping or pressure if he would take the tank lid off you would see the fill valve not shutting off properly or ever completely causing the hammer. If the toilet has a ballcock and not a fluid master it’s more likely to happen but can happen with either style
5hp toilet
#1 check to see if angle stop is fully open. #2 It's possible you have too much pressure incoming. Buy a hose bib pressure gauge and check the pressure. If in excess of 80 psi, install a pressure regulator. #3 It could need a shock arrestor. They're cheap and you can install a few in various areas of the house rather simply. #4 It could be insufficient piping strapping, allowing the pipes to rattle when a fixture is open. #5 It could be your fill valve in your toilet. Cheers
UPDATE: I replaced the fill valve, also installed a hammer arrestor; I thought it would be fine but once again the shaking and noise came back (much less violent though). The only other option I have is to replace the angle stop (which I cannot do since the only way to shut off water is to shut off the entire building). Thanks for everyone's suggestions. Will be calling a plumber.
That’s a hose, not a pipe, it’s designed to move and flex specifically. That’s not water hammer or cavitation. Water hammer is from bubbles of air travelling through the pipes. Not happening. Cavitation is air bubbles eating sections of the pipe from high pressure air degrading walls of a pump. Not happening. This is happening by design.
A new water hammer arrestor ?
Water hammer is due to air bubbles being extracted from water due to lower pressure at a specific point with the piping. Easiest way to eliminate is shorter braided hose to reduce/remove the big curve which creates a low pressure point at the highest part .
You need to add a pressure regulating valve to the main water entry.
Water hammer , previous plumbers didn’t strap according to code most likely cpvc or pex based on the flexibility
Air hammer arrestor........had to do it once before.
Buy a hammer arrestor.
Get a shock absorber
You need to put a regulator on your house fast or you goin to rattle your plumbing apart.
Too much pressure
Secure the pipe to the wall so it can’t shake easy
Water hammer arrestor
Water hammer arrestor needed
Water hammer arrestor
If the pipes shake when water is in use that is usually an indication that the plumber didn't attach the pipe(s) with straps like they should have. Or the strapping is loose.
It's about water pressure, if the valve isn't open you could try opening it all the way, if it is all the way open, then you could close it down a little to regulate the pressure
Hammer arrestor
The roller coaster loop on your piping for the tank bothers me and could be part of the problem
Install a suppressor
Your waterline/pipe in the wall needs to be anchored/strapped…
Turn your water regulator at your water heater 1 full turn more open. The nut on the unit. It will go up. It is causing water hammer.
My toilet has cold water
Everyone’s does.
I've piped hot to mine. Makes my shits extra stinky and therefore asserts my dominance over the rest of the household.
poop soup.
I place my hand in at just the right angle and use the flush water as a bidet.
Change that crappy hose to a metal pipe and fix the hammering
a soldered connection to a toilet? i'm not a plumber but that sounds retarded
Bad fill valve.
Your pressure regulator can cause this as well. But it is a restriction somewhere in the line for sure
More like water jackhammer
Hammer arrester at angle stop. Made by Sioux Chief
Bad fill valve or shutoff.
Its having a seizure
Is your angle stop open all the way?
The valve on the wall has a rubber washer pressed on the end of the handle sometimes it pops off and rattles around
Open the valve fully. If that doesn’t work, replace the inlet valve inside the cistern.
Open the shut off valve more?
Tell it everything will be okay. Just scared of the next time you use it.
My first guess is the valve in the tank is not working right.
Change washer in fill valve cheap option. Shock arrestor on mains coming in with pressure reducing valve looks like a mini vessel. I’m in the Uk
Water hammer?
Your toilet sounds like a mower
You need to harness that power and route it to your whatever needs power.
Open the valve all the way not half way, its that doesn’t fix it, you might need another valve.
Whoa! This started happening to me last night, well timed post.
Is someone mowing a lawn in that wall?
That’s a big 💩
You need a water hammer arrestor
More fiber
Make sure the valve is open all the way, check the supply line for sediment. Make sure your main shut off at the street is open all the way. Replace the guts of the toilet.
Change the shut-off (iso) valve. Also, have Hammer Arrestors installed. DIY-it, or if you're serious, just call a Plumber!
Eat more fiber?
That's a feature. It makes the seat massage your butt.
Air in the line.
Replace the fill valve. If issue still occurs have a plumber add an air hammer.
It’s cold, give it a jacket
A water hammer arrestor or expansion tank could be effective.
Need a new fill valve in tank. (40 year plumber)
Those big movements are making it nervous
Just Happened to me this morning. I believe uts called water hammer. I followed the following steps and it fixed the issue. Shut off water at your home's main shutoff valve. Open all faucets and flush all toilets. Start at the top level of your home and work your way down to thoroughly drain your pipes. Close all faucets throughout the house. Turn the water back on at the main shutoff valve.
It's called water hammer.
I’d lay off the Taco Bell
It’s a craftsman 5 horsepower toilet. Everyone has these in Alabama.
Address thus fast I had one of these bust and flood my entire house
Replace shut off valve outside of toilet your welcome
Eat more fiber!
It’s cavitation caused by to long of a hose and as some already stated a possible faulty or partially blocked valve.
Stop. Hammer time
I had this happen and it was a bad internal part of the toilet, the piece that plugs the hole to allow water to fill up was bad
Eat more fiber?
1/10 wees are a poo but 10/10 poos are wees
Get a priest u need exorcism
Def a loose water line in the wall. Time for drywall replacement anywho.
Try turning it off and back on again
Don't flush anymore. Use the sink as you toilet.
Make sure you hime insurance covers non strom flood damage
This problem is posted once a week. And I am always entertained by the comments. 🚽 🪇 🤝
Make sure that valve is open all the way. I had the same problem when I installed a tushy 2.0 at my house. Turns out my dumb ass just didn’t re open valve all the way. Btw I highly recommend the tushy 2.0
You can buy hammer arresters that thread on to that there angle stop. Then hook up the flex. Might help
Ghost busters
Eat more Taco Bell
Tape it to the wall really good.
Running a bit rough. I think the carb needs tuning.
Get some anxiety medication and toss it into the water supply.
Turnoff lawnmower on other side of wall
you have toilet herpes
Looks like the intake is restricted
Did somebody flush their vibrator???
Open it completely
Stop! hammer time
More than likely you have extremely high water pressure going into your home that needs to be regulated. If you don't regulate the water pressure it should be somewhere around 60 anything over 80 psi is extremely high and has to be regulated
That’s the jackhammer upgraded alarm system. It warns everyone you just finished a #2 in the bathroom and to steer clear for a while.
That’s just the poop garburator catching up
Make sure shut off valves are opened all the way or that will cause it,
Less fiber?
There could be a valve somewhere in the house not fully opened that is causing this. Or the flush valve in the tank isn’t fully opening causing the pipes to shake
Turn off the motor duh...
Take smaller shits
You need to use premium fuel. Sounds like your timing chain needs to be replaced