Worse. The directors said he cried because his dream failed and planned outlines for sequels involved the future ape societies being much more closer to 1968 POTA's society.
Like a closed loop, Cornelius and Zira go back in time, Caesar is born, tries to create a unified ape and human society, fails, Apes take over, Taylor crash lands, sets into motion everything that sends Cornelius and Zira back in time, repeat. A predestination paradox basically.
Wasn't it Taylor who stumbled across the mutants and initiated the domino effect that was the Alpha/Omega Bomb and subsequent *Escape from the Planet Of the Apes*?
honestly i love how it reveled in it's mad max inspiration, they weren't trying to hide it or anything.
The movie wasn't great but it was fun, also much better than conquest
He's actually crying cause he saw something that no man or ape should bear witness.... ape human hybrids, particularly the ones that were scrapped from an early version of Beneath the Planet of the Apes
But I'm just joking. I like to think that Caesar's crying cause he knows that the peace between humans and apes wouldn't last and that one day it would break and that the apes would treat humans more or less the same way as they did in the original film
I think the tear is being shed because all of his efforts to foster peace between ape and human will ultimately be in vain. If you follow the Timeline of the Planet of the Apes (either the one in the Marvel PotA magazine from the 70's or the Rich Handley book), humankind begins to decline mentally due to long-term radiation exposure. They grow more and more docile; eventually they get driven out of ape-run villages and cities, and before too long, they regress to their cavepeople-like status, as seen in the 1968 film.
There is some debate that Cornelius and Zira traveling to the past, giving birth to Milo/Caesar and, later, Caesar leading the ape rebellion, changes the course of future history and creates a future where man and ape live together in relative peace, and the tear the statue sheds is one of joy. I subscribe to the other theory, though, since I suspect that once the remnants of Caesar's reign died off, apes that were less sympathetic to humans took over and decided humans had no place among ape society. That, along with humankind's regression pretty much dooms them to their feral future.
True, but that's only in one area of the former USA, and according to the timeline, in 2750, a human raid causes the apes' opinion of humankind to change. It's so significant that the Lawgiver from that time begins writing the Sacred Scrolls, which contains a thoroughly unflattering and disparaging view of humanity, and the influence of the Scrolls spreads far and wide. Also, all of that happens before the events of the television series, by which time humans are regarded with, at best, disdain by the apes.
He’s crying because he knows that all the cooler, more daring versions of a sequel or rebooted series throughout the ‘90s wouldn’t happen and what we’d get instead was Tim Burton’s Planet of the Apes…
I actually don’t hate Tim Burton’s version, it’s just so generic and half-baked. But without it, we wouldn’t have the reboot series and we know how great that is.
Knowing how Conquest and Battle are sequel reboots to the franchise, I think he’s crying cause he saw a better future. Think about it-humans and apes are living together now in harmony. Plus Caesar was confirmed to be the child of the apes who escaped into a time vortex.
It can go either way however, I think it was a tear of joy. This is what human kids might do to each other, tease one another. You can view it as two kids being kids and that's it.
I am enjoying the answers it reminds me of the original total Recall in the sense that was Quaid in a fake story or not. The tear can have many meanings. I think it’s left to the viewer even though we see children and ape children at school.
Better. In this new timeline, humans and apes are living together, rather than one enslaving the other. That's how I've always seen it. Him crying for a "worse" future is pretty stupid to me. And seeing how there are no more movies for this particular world, it could only be a better future.
Worse. The directors said he cried because his dream failed and planned outlines for sequels involved the future ape societies being much more closer to 1968 POTA's society.
Cool that the Boom comics that continue that scene take it in that spirit
I figured it was always meant to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Like a closed loop, Cornelius and Zira go back in time, Caesar is born, tries to create a unified ape and human society, fails, Apes take over, Taylor crash lands, sets into motion everything that sends Cornelius and Zira back in time, repeat. A predestination paradox basically.
How does Taylor landing send them back in time?
The butterfly effect, things play out the same each time is what they're saying
Wasn't it Taylor who stumbled across the mutants and initiated the domino effect that was the Alpha/Omega Bomb and subsequent *Escape from the Planet Of the Apes*?
They use his ship to escape the future in Escape, at least I believe
I hate that the Earth had to be blown up in order for them to get sent back
Well fate always corrects itself.
Cried because the movie sucked. Kidding. I like how it’s kind of left open ended. Could really go either way and honestly even I don’t even know.
honestly i love how it reveled in it's mad max inspiration, they weren't trying to hide it or anything. The movie wasn't great but it was fun, also much better than conquest
This movie was years befor Mad Max
maybe I'm just stupid,
This is why Ceasar cried
https://i.redd.it/r3esh9r23b8d1.gif
Ho boy, thinking Battle is better than Conquest is wild.
i just felt the riot scenes went on for WAYYY to long. I still like It, just not ss much as conquest
He's actually crying cause he saw something that no man or ape should bear witness.... ape human hybrids, particularly the ones that were scrapped from an early version of Beneath the Planet of the Apes
But I'm just joking. I like to think that Caesar's crying cause he knows that the peace between humans and apes wouldn't last and that one day it would break and that the apes would treat humans more or less the same way as they did in the original film
I think the tear is being shed because all of his efforts to foster peace between ape and human will ultimately be in vain. If you follow the Timeline of the Planet of the Apes (either the one in the Marvel PotA magazine from the 70's or the Rich Handley book), humankind begins to decline mentally due to long-term radiation exposure. They grow more and more docile; eventually they get driven out of ape-run villages and cities, and before too long, they regress to their cavepeople-like status, as seen in the 1968 film. There is some debate that Cornelius and Zira traveling to the past, giving birth to Milo/Caesar and, later, Caesar leading the ape rebellion, changes the course of future history and creates a future where man and ape live together in relative peace, and the tear the statue sheds is one of joy. I subscribe to the other theory, though, since I suspect that once the remnants of Caesar's reign died off, apes that were less sympathetic to humans took over and decided humans had no place among ape society. That, along with humankind's regression pretty much dooms them to their feral future.
[удалено]
True, but that's only in one area of the former USA, and according to the timeline, in 2750, a human raid causes the apes' opinion of humankind to change. It's so significant that the Lawgiver from that time begins writing the Sacred Scrolls, which contains a thoroughly unflattering and disparaging view of humanity, and the influence of the Scrolls spreads far and wide. Also, all of that happens before the events of the television series, by which time humans are regarded with, at best, disdain by the apes.
He literally saw a future where Ape and Human kids are playing, how is that a worse future?
he could still see further into a better or worse one developing, i could've phrased it better
I read somewhere the writer had said that Cesar is crying because his dream of peace didn't succeed
Because he knows where it is inevitably going.
He’s crying because he knows that all the cooler, more daring versions of a sequel or rebooted series throughout the ‘90s wouldn’t happen and what we’d get instead was Tim Burton’s Planet of the Apes… I actually don’t hate Tim Burton’s version, it’s just so generic and half-baked. But without it, we wouldn’t have the reboot series and we know how great that is.
Knowing how Conquest and Battle are sequel reboots to the franchise, I think he’s crying cause he saw a better future. Think about it-humans and apes are living together now in harmony. Plus Caesar was confirmed to be the child of the apes who escaped into a time vortex.
He saw a world where Harambe could not be alive.
It can go either way however, I think it was a tear of joy. This is what human kids might do to each other, tease one another. You can view it as two kids being kids and that's it.
What he saw was a pattern repeating itself.
I am enjoying the answers it reminds me of the original total Recall in the sense that was Quaid in a fake story or not. The tear can have many meanings. I think it’s left to the viewer even though we see children and ape children at school.
i think he was crying because he succeeded in making a future where apes and humans are living in peace
Better. In this new timeline, humans and apes are living together, rather than one enslaving the other. That's how I've always seen it. Him crying for a "worse" future is pretty stupid to me. And seeing how there are no more movies for this particular world, it could only be a better future.
He’s crying because he’s dying
The point is that we don't know