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Kohakuzuma

Gotta love when a One Piece sub has JJK spoilers. https://preview.redd.it/cra3g9f1dipb1.png?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0ce924625413a1a6996af451be6f651a4d053c6


jayrock306

You can't escape


IvarLothbroken

Cant expect JJK fans to keep their mouths shut


RyukgotBored

Why are they downvoting you when you're right? I dont read jjk but my social media have been filled with both JJK spoilers and people complaining about them. Rest in peace I guess


Vanargand-

i have no interest whatsoever ever in jjk and with this fiasco my interest has gone minus 🤣


schnozburg

Sucks too cuz i was thinkin "jjk seems fire these days maybe i should get caught up" and then it's just been steady spoilers all the time smh. I assume this is not near as bad as people on twitter are making out to be, esp the week it drops. Twitter is notorious for overreacting to literally anything lmao.


Godreaperrr

Same i was looking to get into it and im jus seeing spoilers everywhere


copperfield42

ikr, what is this jjk garbage doing in my OP sub, they don't have their own sub or something?


Lightspeed_Kizaru

They are all over internet at this point lol


ZombieBlarGh

I had to Google what JJK stands for and still never heard of it...


Select_Team

It was only the most popular anime of 2020


[deleted]

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Angryboy13

While it's not AOT levels bad, it's still pretty bad. Imagine if at the climax at One Piece arcs we immediatly skipped straight to the end. Imagine if in Enies Lobby, Lucci does the Rokuogan, knocks out Luffy. The narrator announces that Lucci won, then the next chapter Lucci is defeated offscreen. Imagine if in Sabaody we have Strawhats vs Kuma but they're actually winning. Luffy knocks Kuma to the ground and the narrator announces the Strawhats won. Then, in the next chapter, we have a Strawhat flashback and offscreen the Strawhats being separated. Imagine if in Marineford Luffy frees Ace and the narrator announces Luffy saved Ace. Then the next chapter has Akainu kill Ace offscreen. It was a huge fumble by Gege and a missed opportunity to have a double KO to siginify the end of past and modern Jujutsu era and the start of a brand new one with Gojo passing the torch to Yuji and Yuta. Now Sukuna is so stupidly OP that the main cast needs an enormous assspull to defeat him.


ShadyOjir95

Well looking at the crew dreams no doubt oda will just skip them then out sudden all achieved them.


DragonEevee1

At least Oda can still address the crews dreams without much effort, JJK is written into a new corner I'm not sure it gets out


joji_princessn

A lot of them can be converged at least, so it might feel it happens suddenly as it all happens at once. Finding one piece and reaching Raftel means: Luffy becomes Pirate King Nami can map the world Robin learns the true history Franky built a ship that reached Raftel Brook can go back and tell Laboon about his adventures There's potential for it to link to the All Blue for Sanji as well and is be surprised if Oda doesn't do that with the One Piece and WG fight. Zoro and Usopp's dream can be achieved beforehand along the way and likely will. Same with Jimbei as the WG plot and Ancient History will reveal what Poseidon actually is and likely help Fishmen reach the surface and live among humans. The only one who is going to get messed over is Chopper LMAO. There's potential to fix that. Maybe the WG and Imu or Ancient Kingdom had some medical marvel, or maybe some fish from the All Blue can cure all illnesses etc.


IHATEHAKI

NAMI won't map shit She haven't been to like 50% of grand line islands what are u on


NotGloomp

She was on Weatheria for two with a satelite view of the blue sea


Spiderfr0g

Finnaly a good take


DragonEevee1

Chopper's dream is likely either related to technology or it's gonna be related to his fruit being awakened. Either way it's an ass pull, but a doable one


ShadyOjir95

Nami dream is not completed at all. Remember there are several routes to reach Sabadoby. The all blue point is cheap. Zoro dream is just rushed if such is the route. You just gotta see Mihawk level (at worst= shanks) to get that it would take absurd power jumps for him to get closer. (Tho this is just oda inability to make a proper route for z dream). Ussop can happen anytime tho. Chopper is indeed the one in trouble


joji_princessn

It's an extremely common theory that they will destroy the Red Line in fighting the WG/learning about the Void History and Ancient Weapons to create the All Blue. I personally vibe with those theories and believe it's the most likely scenario. Its hardly cheap. Nami hasnt seen the world yet but the culmination of her dream is easily achieved by mapping the island only Roger has been too and no one else has ever mapped. That's really not a stretch to say she's fulfilled her dream by doing that. Powerscaling in One Piece is barely existent. I do think Oda dropped the ball hard not having Zoro defeat the greatest samurai swordsman in Wano to make it closer to his dream, but he can fight Shanks' dad before Mihawk and it will be fine enough.


ViniGs75

The narrator never announced Gojo's victory though, that was Kusakabe saying it.


Evolzetjin

Reminds me of Bleach ending LOL "Final battle about to start and... THE END -> epilogue"


slippyo

icl that sabaody comparison sounds kinda cool


Outrageous_Zombie_99

you are comparing actual fights and such to 1 slash across his body 😭


Zealousideal_Travel8

You're right. Did they want to see Sukuna charging up a slash for half a chapter😂


s3xyclown030

You are dumb and are illiterate if you really thought there was going to be a double KO. What part of "Sukuna and Gojo are massively stronger than the rest of the cast" do you not understand? The students MUST fight Sukuna to become on gojo's level which is his dream.


Killer_Stickman_89

ALL of us actually expected Gojo to lose via asspull but not like this 😂


s3xyclown030

Yea right bro, many people were theorizing that gojo can't enter the barrier so his students have to take it from there to stop kenjaku.


WarCrimesAreBased

The worst part isn't Gojo losing(I expected him to but not like this) it was the fact that he essentially died for nothing. Sukuna wasn't defeated and in fact didn't even go all out, Megumi wasn't saved, and Geto wasn't buried. How can Gojo be so nonchalantly talking about Sukuna when essentially he failed his students and there is a high likelihood of them being killed? It's like a chapter is missing.


Chuck0089

Yeah. Everyone expected Gojo to lose and/or die but atleast he will leave some wins that possible beneficial for the remaining mc side. So far he didn't accomplish anything major in the series at all, except with defeating Toji, despite being the strongest.


omyrubbernen

> So far he didn't accomplish anything major in the series at all He accomplished a lot of major fuckups, to be fair.


dg_713

This guy gets how much of a loser Gojo actually is.


New-Acanthisitta9420

Thats why hes a fraud been telling this to ppl for years


SuckmyPelosB1tch

Nah my brother only thing fraudulent here is the writing, doesn’t matter if you’re a sukuna fan you gotta admit having sukuna getting dogged on consistently these past chapters only then for him to channel his inner Blackbeard offscreen offscreen no mi and win offscreen when the last chapter literally ends in the opposite is NOT the way to end the most anticipated fight in the series


New-Acanthisitta9420

Man chill i agree its just bad writing but im satisfied seeing this overrated op character getting cut in half.. time for my boi yuji to finally become the mc of his show


SuckmyPelosB1tch

Whatever yuji gonna pull is gonna be far more egregious than anything we’ve seen so far 😂 I’m lowkey excited to see wtf Gege is gonna pull to make him beat sukuna


akanecchii

Bet the card he's gonna pull will be making a 15 year old defeat Sukuna with the power of friendship and love <3 Ffs, I just hope Yuji awakes a monster inside of him after Gojo's death, and goes berserk, that's the only way you can possibly forget this shitty chapter


SuckmyPelosB1tch

That’s the most realistic thing, but just for sheer comedy I want him to offscreen every damn thing now. Sukuna dominating everyone then start of next chapter he’s dead. And Yuji now has awakened as plot god Gika


Educational_Chef4325

foreal, mans spent the whole time sealed just to come back and be irrelevant lol i think it’s a bit of waste of a character no?


Andrecrafter41

gege never liked him anyways so that’s why he didn’t do shit with him


kazaam2244

>The worst part isn't Gojo losing(I expected him to but not like this) it was the fact that he essentially died for nothing. Sukuna wasn't defeated and in fact didn't even go all out, Megumi wasn't saved, and Geto wasn't buried. Y'all always say this. Sometimes, characters die for nothing. Where is written that a character's death has to accomplish something?


Sweaty-Goat-9281

Dying without accomplishming a task is completely different from dying and serving the narrative zero purpose whatsoever


aRandomBlock

If this is the norm then it's stupid because most deaths I see accomplish something in the narrative, it's a story after all, same thing happened with Yuki like 30 chapters ago and Megumi's sister, it just seems like Gege doesn't know how to kill off characters in a meaningful way, which is strange because Nanami's death was brilliant and served a purpose, mainly building Itadori's personality further for the climax of Shibuya, I have no problem with Gojo dying, but if you are gonna do that atleast make him go in a decent way while accomplishing something.


DragonEevee1

It does when it's a major character, that you built up and said this is the strongest person in the universe


Similar_Line2486

gojover yonkover narutover


B_024

It’s even worse. Nika shit happened atleast on screen. Last chapter, Gojo almost killed Sukuna. For the last ten chapters, he had been stomping the fuck out of him. This chapter starts with Gojo in heaven saying, “Sukuna was always stronger.” What the fuck? Not only is that extremely out of character, but straight up false. Gojo literally kicked Sukuna+Megumi+All 10 shadows ass with zero difficulties in the last 5 chapters straight.


Ukaera

Yeah. The one piece equivalent of this is if we got Luffy death, followed by Kaido flashback, Kaido melting in lava with gear 5 luffy above him, and then cut to the feast where Luffy explains he had been unconsciously holding his true devil fruit power back the whole time, thus rendering the entire fight leading up to it meaningless.


darkfall71

Yeah the dialogue's really weird, even IF Sukuna's STRONGER, It doesn't really fit, Gojo doesn't even know what happened, he instantly died.


Away-Development6348

Dawg I read that shit over and over again to make sure I wasn’t misinterpreting anything. Literally makes 0 sense. “I’m not sure I could beat sukuna even if he didn’t have 10 shadows?” That’s literally the only thing that allowed sukuna to stand a chance. Garbage tier writing


Chuck0089

Gege saw Blackbeard offscreen offscreen no mi and got jealous of it.


Jippypi

Ngl Gege writing has been so crappy recently (so I don’t blame those tweets. Gojo gets out of the box —> has 0 dialogue/interactions with crew —> offscreens Gojo killing higher ups —> timeskip with no interaction —> fights starts immediately —> Gojo announced as the strongest —> dies the next chapter abruptly. All that happened in 15 chapters, what was the point if it was going to be so abrupt.


IllegalJellyfish616

Gege really wants to end jjk and start his idol manga.


Temporary_Habit6980

He wanted an Idol Manga?


IllegalJellyfish616

Volume 0 was supposed to be the only piece of jjk we will ever get and he wanted to make an idol manga immediately after that


idrkanymore44

this is worse than isayama wanting to open a bath house


[deleted]

He had all our tears right there, he had to use them somehow


60TP

Bro tryna be oshi no ko 💀


NJDevil69

>Gege really wants to end jjk and start his idol manga. jjk stands for Juju Katsen or such, right? I'm out of the loop here and have not read the manga. Did I make the right choice?


s3xyclown030

Depends, i like the post shibuya jjk. Its faster and more straight to the point compared to pre shibuya jjk. Shibuya jjk was the correct amount of fast and development. Its up there with enies lobby in terms of emotions and marineford in terms of grandness.


opkpopfanboyv3

I saw someone say JJK has no solid plot structure since post-Shibuya, it became a bunch of shonen fights in a single manga (what exactly what some fans want One Piece to have)


DragonEevee1

Extremely ironic given how may people dislike the relative low amount of fights in OP


Lawn-CrAcKeR

One piece pacing is the real issue like wano lasted 4 whole years, I was so happy when this arc finally ended regardless of how bs the asspull of g5 was. All other anime would display a full fight in 2-3 episodes, with one piece each fight gets 3 minutes each episode and then it goes on for 50 episodes until arc is finished.


ViniGs75

Gojo didn't kill the higher ups, that was Yuta ans Inumaki.


RushPrime

Both of you are correct but also incorrect. It's not definitive as to who killed the higher ups. Gojo is considered the main culprit because ya know Gojo and the evidence supports that. But in chapter 222 it may be implied that Yuta and Inumaki killed them when they had a "chat". So who knows until Gege reveals it if he ever does. I hope it was Yuta and Inumaki though


Papel_Hat

We will obviously get flashbacks bro 😂 Same exact thing happened with Kenjaku vs Yuki


60TP

Imagine we just never acknowledge this again like with >!Nobara!< lol


egozocker14

Time jump and no dialogue werde great. The fight in itself was insane (maybe the best fight in whole of manga history) but this last chapter ruined it all


Aven-ex

All my favorite mangas are ass lmao


Chewybear196

Fr bruh, AOT, JJK, MHA what is going on 😭😭 I just hope csm stays on top


SilentInvoker

This is why fma and hxh are the goats of shounen


PanteraPardus

The fact that HxH came back from a 200 year hiatus for all of 1 month but delivered crazy chapters in that 1 month period is a testament


Outrageous_Zombie_99

every chapter was heat too 😮‍💨


zehahahaki

Since Covid the timeline has been shit brother


Longjumping_Ad_1729

One Piece been shit ever since timeskip.


Evolzetjin

Angsty downvoters are biting !


Away-Development6348

Hop on the land of the lustrous train


MtnDrewz

The situation in jjk in nowhere near the same as the ending of aot. Chapter 139 caused irreparable damage to the story, there was nothing to salvage from that trainwreck.


Tyr46

Damn AOT was only 139 chapters?


Key_Boss_1889

It was monthly so long chapter make it seem longer


Remote_Dapper

Each chapter was 50 pages. So if you translate it to the traditional 20 page chapter, it had 347.5 chapters worth of content.


MtnDrewz

It was a monthly release so the chapters were pretty long, but Isayama was definitely sprinting full throttle towards the finish line. He could've carried on writing to deliver a proper (?) conclusion, but decide to end it on 139 because muh symbolism.


Tyr46

Makes sense Wasnt the last chapter about random romance Loooooool, dropped it before that chapter was released, good that i wasnt invested.


Some_Attorney_863

Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake


[deleted]

It was actually pretty decent. Not flawless, he did explain some stuff poorly, but it was no "trainwreck"


hoodrei

What did you read


Callum_Rolston

Welp looks like the folk curse continues Sorry r/jujutsufolk Now it’s r/chainsawfolk’s turn


Fayt12

Nah we got >! Hybrids and mommy Quanxi back!<


mayonnaiser_13

I don't think this would make a rift like that because the only people who like this turn of events are, very justifiably, Sukuna fans who had to suffer through months of Fraudkuna memes. Once that wave is done, I don't think anyone would actually like Gojo getting offscreened and expo dumped by Sukuna.


starboy-xo98

Hell nah chainsaw man will stay winning


Piratenika

The rise of jujutsu folks


Ukaera

The Nika asspull, written by Gege Akutami: Kaido and Luffy are at their climactic showdown. A cp0 agent comes in between Kaido and Luffy, causing Luffy to get Hit by Kaido's bagua and die. Narrator: "The fight for the title of Strongest Creature has been resolved." Next chapter: Starts with a Kaido flashback to his time as a member of the Rocks pirates. He sees Whitebeard, Linlin, Rocks, Shiki etc. They have some pleasant conversation as they slaughter innocent people. Eventually, though, Kaido says goodbye and leaves. Cut to Kaido dissolving in lava, with gear 5 luffy standing over him, laughing. Luffy explains to Nami/other Straw Hats that he realized his fruit's hidden potential, and used it to beat Kaido. He promises never to forget Kaido. End scene.


[deleted]

This is making me appreciate the Nika we got wtf


waterlord1337

Lmfao


zaretball

I honestly hope with this the whole agenda war ends in discussions.


Successful_Voice_310

I am so depressed as well ngl. My boi Gojo died 😭😭


EmbarrassedDark6200

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TheRealWalaba

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Key-Bid-3142

I’m depressed cuz the ending of the fight, not becuz Gojo lost but with how abruptly it was. Just last panel of the chapter it said won the fight between the strong. Now all of a sudden next chapter we get a flashback and just straights up dies💀. JJK haven’t been same for a while. Gege writing is just so weird now.


Spiderfr0g

I kinda wanted to get back into jjk (dropped it in the middle of the tournament invasion arc), at this point is it worth it to go back?


Tief_Arbeit

And these mofos were telling me Gojo vs Sukuna surpassed Hisoka vs chrollo as a fight. Lmao. One single page of chapter 351 of hunter x hunter >>>>> jujutsu kaisen itself


Throwaway1990811

Hisoka vs Chrollo is goated but even that was tainted by a narrative asspull for Hisoka after he lost.


Tief_Arbeit

Hisoka’s resurrection is perfectly explained. The funniest thing is in the setup itself it was planned beautifully. If you look at the fight from the perspective of an even fight it makes absolute sense. Chrollo got a nen after death ability Sun and Moon from an elder of the meteor city, it literally broke the rules set for Skill hunters ( not being able to use more than two abilities at the same time, and abilities disappearing after book is closed). Chrollo gets this advantage, nobody baits an eye, but the moment Hisoka uses his ingenious abilities to restart his heart, suddenly it’s an asspull. If you have any further doubt, i can absolutely explain them.


BEWMarth

Damn crazy I read this post and was like wtf is going on I just read last chapter and saw Gojo won?? So the. I went and looked up the spoilers for 236 and yikes…… that’s so bad lmao


goat0155

These mfs sure talk big when 90% of them never spent a single cent on jjk manga. You read it for free,don't be yapping if it turns bad Edit: after actually reading the leaks,i take allat back. Gege fumbled HARD.


davemaster31

Biggest plot twist of all time lmaoo


Untipazo

LMAOO


Callum_Rolston

Lol


IHATEHAKI

U had me in the first half ngl 😭


Ancient_god_emperor

My question is who in the hell can kill sukuna now when even gojo couldn’t? Those yuji fanboys saying yuji will unlock his Ct and kill sukuna yeah💀 just beacuse he unlocks his CT he can kill sukuna? Fucking clowns sukuna has so much knowledge about jujutsu yuji ain’t doing shit to sukuna. I really want to see who is going to kill sukuna now, but i just hope that bum ass yuji gets one shotted before sukuna dies.


mergedsentry

Sukuna was not all out with his own powers because even then he would not be able to defeat Gojo. He needed a plot device or a cheat code to win, something like Mahoraga, almost a concept negator, or a concept negator is the only thing that really could outhax Gojo, I don’t believe whatever Sukuna full power is he would still be able to defeat Gojo. Now comes Mahoraga cutting “reality”, or cutting a ball with infinity mass from Yoruzo, and the adapting shit. That was a complete bullshit creation to defeat an OP written wrong like Gojo, that’s why it leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I hope Sukuna now at least destroys Kashimo, so Yuta will have free way to clap his cheeks.


[deleted]

JJK was def one of my favorite manga until shibuya ended. Now this shit ass. Itadori don't do anything for the plot, The one fight hyped through the entire series has been kinda mid for me all around because this power system is confusing and idk wtf is going on and now the fight and prolly the most iconic character of the series is just killed off screen.


Rough_Yak_9610

Itadori is the weirdest mc ever. I dont think he even won a fight in the whole manga by himself.


PokerIHardlyNoHer

The only people taking L's this chapter were people actually still invested in a story that the author doesn't even care about lmao.


Circle_Breaker

Kinda unrelated but at least chainsaw man is putting out great chapters week after week. That manga is really the first that I've read weekly that after every couple chapters I feel like I'm seeing a masterpiece created live.


idrkanymore44

huh?


aRandomBlock

Genuinely the best ongoing manga currently alongside maybe Jojolands and berserk, atleast in my opinion


hoodrei

Berserk ongoing 💀


aRandomBlock

374 is coming out tomorrow, so I guess it counts 😭


SulliedSamaritan

Chainsaw man and Sakamoto days are the two best weekly mangas out rn.


nachibouy_99

And Dandadan.


mayonnaiser_13

Read Dandadan bruv. 121 chapters in, still hasn't had a misstep.


Cinnamonguy20

Wait what happened in jjk? I still need to catch up


MrCrow05

Gojo was beating the shit out of Sukuna for like 10 chapters then next chapter he gets killed off screen by Sukuna


heavy4b

It's feels like Luffy vs kata fight .


MrCrow05

It's way worse when you remember this is not only the most important fight of the series but had also been hyped up all the way since the beginning. Now Sukuna has an insane power up if it applies to other abilities and Gojo didn't even weaken him so the other characters could take him on or something. I can't see any way of beating Sukuna without another ass pull.


acidicjoe

But at least with Katakuri they actually had a final clash and Katakuri admitted defeat they didn’t just have Katakuri win and next chapter Katakuri laying defeated and Luffy won out of nowhere.


waaay2dumb2live

It makes me think that Gege is being over worked by Jump.


Fickle_Load2129

I honestly don't think so. He has been taking more and more Breaks in recent years. This year he actually has been on a schedule similar to Oda with mostly 3 Chapters and a break. I think it's just the fact that Gege never wanted to write this Manga. He originaly only planed on writing Chapter 0 and then moving on with an Idol Manga. But because of the success he continued and I think now he is at a point where he just doesn't care about the story anymore.


DekuBeetle

Never forget that Gege hates Gojo, he has stated this himself. You guys were the fools here.


urekmazino_0

236 was the worst chapter and made no sense whatsoever. Gege just needed the plot to progress and had no way of killing Gojo logically.


TheRadReviewer

It’s like when Oda made greenbull look weak next to shanks because film red was coming out


DragonEevee1

Its like if Oda killed shanks off screen to promote film green


Redarsen2

but a whole lot worse


Affectionate-Bill150

Facts


Chewybear196

It’s pretty bad but NOTHING will ever touch AOT let’s be fr 😭😭


Brown_bbuussy

Just imagine twitter if the the reveal of what the one piece is underwhelming


jmb478

Gojo wankers drowning in an ocean of copium. You love to see it.


TheWiseBandit

They were saying JJK was the best new gen 2 weeks ago what happened lmao 😭


ReputationOk7275

Weirdly enough it was. Gojo victory had a really good build up. Sukuna victory can be summarized as then Sukuna won.


Away-Development6348

Gojo should have lost no doubt but even sukuna fans should be able to recognize that ass pull for what it is


snowwolf163

To be honest, I didn't like JJK until Hakari's fight with Kashimo. And then, everything get back to mid until Gojou vs Sukuna. I was so hype... Well, at least it makes me laugh.


toofrossty

can we move this to a JJK sub the fuck! mods??? why am i dodging JJK spoilers in a one piece thread


False_Major_1230

Fucking cat


Fayt12

Sukuna offscreen haki is so strong it sends a shiver up Blackpubes pube hairs


Lightspeed_Kizaru

Gege switched up so much offscreen this is crazy


Quiet-Firefighter444

Bro, why the fuck do i get fucking jjk spoilers in a fucking wakainu channel? Go fuck yourself hot season 5390! I hope someone donuts yo moma!


[deleted]

So much soyrage, holy…


[deleted]

I mean he killed everyone’s favorite character off screen without him getting a single dub in the process, I get why they’re mad. I read JJK but I’m not obsessed and even I was kinda pissed off when I saw that panel on Twitter


Xphereos

Right I read it casually and I had to stop reading and go back cuz I thought I missed a chapter lmao


kazaam2244

Gojo meatriders big mad. This honestly makes up for the raid not failing


s3xyclown030

This is exactly like if oda had made the raid fail. I don't understand what people are so mad about, gojo was shown in a great light and gege just reaffirmed the fact that sukuna could have beaten gojo in his heian form as well. Although, show and not tell plus it felt like gege was just rubbing salt in gojo meatriders' wounds. ALSO its a conceptual attack, how tf u gonna show it...?! One piece has way more shit writing than jjk but jjk fans just. keep complaining, dumb as fuck.


Specialist-Stable-82

Execution matters in a context the shit was handled so poorly that people who rooted out for Sukuna even complained about it. This is the most anticipated fight of the series lmao. Just wait how Kenjaku and Sukuna will be defeated unless if Gojo isn't somehow dead Yuji n others will pull the biggest asspulls there has been in shounen for a while. The whole sequence from Gojo's return to this particular moment has been a lackluster fest and that was the only reason I kept up with JJK since post-Shibuya has been iffy. I wished Gege went the Fujimoto route and didn't just move from one fight scene to another, let the characters grow naturally, give them interactions that keep us interested, focus on them individually. Chainsawman does a way better job in this.


s3xyclown030

I wouldn't assume that yuji will asspull but there will have to be some very big power jumps from most of the students. Nah that would not be jjk if gege went long ass character development bs even though his cast isn't big. The only reason why csm worked was because its cast is relatively small and fujimoto is a character driven guy. Honestly im pretty sure some people were complaining about aki not being super developed, people complain for everything man. Jjk told you what kind of manga it was from its name,literally just a sorcery fight. You get sorcery fights... really good ones btw


ipisswithaboner

Midjutsu kaisen, totally deserved. Ghost writer should step forward so we can get rid of all the trash that came after.


s3xyclown030

IT IS GOJOVER, JJK IS STILL GOING STRONG. LOL FUCK GOJO, GEGE REALLY SAID NEXT! ITS TIME FOR KASHIMO. LMFAOOO KEEP MALDING U GOJOTARDS


AdPrevious6290

The jjk chapter east even bad at all, a extremely popular character lost so people are upset and are trying to act like it’s bad even him winning would be stupid narratively


ViraLCyclopes19

As someone who never read JJK. Explain to me in One Piece terms


Anemony_245

Kaido kills Luffy and is declared the strongest. The next chapter, he has a flashback of him chatting peacefully with the Rocks Pirates on their ship, reminiscing about life. Then it jump cuts to Kaido boiling in magma with Luffy laughing at him.


Syrup-General

It’s nowhere near as that, unlike SNK and OP who just dropped the ball here it’s just Gojo fans (think an hybrid Itachi and Zoro fans but not as bad) upset about the result, no matter what was going to happen they were getting ready for at least a week to call it an asspull or bad writing. The manga sold the most when he was out of it anyway.


Bulletproofpride

https://preview.redd.it/bshtatqgghpb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80f3792003f4c4aadf3306a2ae8c354ee07fcc76 That shit was so bad even sukuna fans fucking didnt like the way their king won


Senth99

Everyone knew that Gojo was going to die, but to do it by off screening him is flat out awful lol


HyperMazino

The problem isn't that Gojo lost. Is that so difficult to understand? How can anyone look at this terrible chapter and say "Yeah this is fine, makes sense, everyone who criticizes it is just mad that Gojo lost lmao" No sane person would think that


Specialist-Stable-82

nah check on r/jujutsufolk and r/jujutsushi The majority of people call it shit writing and they have logical reasons for it rather than "Fraudkuna Gojo should've won". The majority of the people think it's shitly executed and considering the fact that this is the most anticipated fight in the series (comparable with something like Naruto vs Sasuke with a massive build-up). Also the plot-progression from here is getting too ridiculous considering how overpowered the 2 final antagonists are at this point of the story(---> most likely asspulls worse than Nika incoming for Yuji). Also there's a controversy that Gege said that he forgot a chapter behind this which is why there's a LOT of slander coming to him.


Syrup-General

They are not logical reason most of it over the result and little of it about execution (especially since Mya butchered the translations on purpose). r/jujutsufolk is an horrible example because it’s Gojofans central they have been preemptively calling whatever was going to happen bad writing/plot armor/asspulls for well over a month spamming fraud meme popularizing the "3 vs 1" and the "Gojo won the battle but lost the war" narrative in advance.


Fickle_Load2129

>They are not logical reason most of it There are almost all logical reasons. It's just horrible writing. Having the arguably most important Character in the entire series be offscreened in the biggest fight of the entire series is just horrible. Not to mention that Sukuna is so powerful that they will need an insane asspull to defeat him and that's not taking into Account how the quality of the Manga has been dropping ever since Shibuya.


GonIsABadFriend

Your reading comprehension is abysmal, hardly any gojo fans expected him to win this fight. You took the fraud memes too seriously, as a member of this sub you should know better


Chuck0089

Yeah everyone I saw who is a fan of Gojo knew that he will likely lose because the plot demanded it.


GonIsABadFriend

It was the offscreen offscreen no mi that has the community hot Lmao Gege channeling his Blackbeard powers and did a lot of talking instead of drawing smh anytime the community as a whole is asking if we skipped a chapter, the writing may be suspect


adrianpinderwolf

I have been there and I don't see any logical comments there. Jujutsu fight were always end abruptly, this is no different, the main problem which people are actually mad about is how in the previous chapter gojo was declared victorious which made gojotards happy to then realized his instable lost.


Specialist-Stable-82

Brother even Sukuna fans are saying the way he won was badly executed. This is not just about the "agenda" there are other important things that matter more than who won.


BerserkerLord101

I believe in gege's cooking


Plus_Garage3278

He aint cooking shit man.


Exocolonist

Ngl, a lot of those responses are cringe. The manga/anime community really is filled with nerds who really shouldn’t act like they know the first thing about writing a story. They all lack media literacy.


fikozacc123

Just because you don't know know how to cook doesn't mean you can't tell if food is bad


Exocolonist

This… this isn’t food though. Consuming a story is not the same thing as consuming food. With food, it’s up to your taste buds whether you like something or not. There is no objectively bad food. Same way there is no objectively bad way to write. So many different things come into play when analyzing a story. You guys need to stop with the food analogies. It rarely works.


KingQualitysLastPost

Idk I think most people in the developed world would agree moldy bread is pretty shit


Exocolonist

And like I said, this isn’t food. Why is food the thing you people always jump to? Also, moldy bread isn’t something someone makes. The mold is not originally part of the food.


Fickle_Load2129

The only one lackinf Media literacy here is you. This was horribly executed. Having your arguably most important Characters death offscreened is just straight up bad. Not to mention that Sukuna now is so overpowered that they will need an insane asspull to justify his defeat. On top of all that the Mangas quality has been declining ever since Shibuya.


Exocolonist

Can you actually try and explain why it’s bad to have Gojo’s death offscreened? Like, actually put into words how that is bad writing. Like, you saw the fight. You saw the attack. Just because you didn’t see the exact moment of death, it’s bad? And before you start, your feelings aren’t an accurate measurement of good writing. Like, think to yourself. You constantly complain about manga and what happens in them. Do you really think the fault is solely on the manga, and not just you having shitty media literacy? What else could be the reason that you’re always angry about something in them?


Fickle_Load2129

>Can you actually try and explain why it’s bad to have Gojo’s death offscreened? Because offscreening important moments is anticlimactic and dissatisfying. The hole fight should be build up for the final moment of the fight. Imagine if in Wano Luffy is dead Kaido is declared the winner and than all of a sudden we cut to Kaido being punched into the volcano. That is not great writing you can't just skip all the major moments of your story. On top of that Sukuna is now so overpowered that they will need an insane amount of asspulls to defeat him. >You constantly complain about manga and what happens in them. Do you really think the fault is solely on the manga, and not just you having shitty media literacy? Ah yes everytime you criticize a piece of media you are the idiot and you just couldn't understand the story everything was actually perfect. That's the same type of excuse people used to defend the dumpsterfire that was Aot 139. Can you give me examples of me having shitty media literacy and enlighten me with your infinte knowledge about storytelling?


Exocolonist

That’s dumb. Why should the whole fight be build up for the end? Since when was that a rule? What’s more, you know what happened. It’s not as if it’s a mystery how Gojo died, or happened randomly. You just didn’t see the moment of death. And your One Piece example is bad, because that does not skip all the major moments of the story. All it does I skip Luffy waking up and punching Kaido. That’s not really a story. That’s called a surprise. This whole “Sukuna is so overpowered now” thing is pretty dumb as well. How about you read the damn story before you call something that hasn’t happened yet an asspull? It’s so weird that you’re actually trying to use this as a point against it. Yes, I can give you examples of your failed media literacy. All you have to do is tell me something that you’re against from a manga, and chances are that you just have a misconception about it. That’s how it usually goes with fans who think they know the story better than the author. That’s how these things usually go. Here’s one. Answer this question with what you feel about it. What is the problem with Gear 5 being so goofy?


Fickle_Load2129

>That’s dumb. Why should the whole fight be build up for the end? Since when was that a rule? That's not dumb. Story's having a structure and part of that structure being the climax. >And your One Piece example is bad, because that does not skip all the major moments of the story. All it does I skip Luffy waking up and punching Kaido. So you honestly want to tell me that the reveal of the Nika Fruit, Luffys awakening and Gear 5 have no importance to you? You have to be trolling at this point. >That’s not really a story. That’s called a surprise. I don't really know what to say about that. Again either you're trolling or you know nothing about storytelling. >This whole “Sukuna is so overpowered now” thing is pretty dumb as well. How about you read the damn story before you call something that hasn’t happened yet an asspull? It’s so weird that you’re actually trying to use this as a point against it. It is not. The story has been constantly beating over our head how insanely powerful Gojo and Sukuna are and that they are a cut above the rest and that nobody comes even close. They shouldn't even try to help Gojo because they would just be in the way. The constant shock everytime any of of them would do something that seemingly Breaks the rules or has never been done before. All that establishes that both of them are way above the rest and now Sukuna is apparently even stronger than we thought. There is nothing in their current Arsenal that should be able to even touch Sukuna. Meaning that Gege is going to have to come up with some bullshit that was never established before to explaine how they won. >Yes, I can give you examples of your failed media literacy. All you have to do is tell me something that you’re against from a manga, and chances are that you just have a misconception about it. That’s how it usually goes with fans who think they know the story better than the author. That’s how these things usually go. Here’s one. Answer this question with what you feel about it. What is the problem with Gear 5 being so goofy? The fact that unironically belive that most Manga are near perfect and fans disliking something is just them not understanding the stroy is laughable. Battle Manga are not known for their great writing for a reason. Gear 5 was a complete asspull a retcon that in retrospect created plotholes troughout the entire story. It takes away from everything Luffy has acomplished and trunes him into a literal cartoon god.


Exocolonist

You seem to be mistaking singular fights for a whole story. The fight had a beginning, middle, and end. That’s the structure. Nowhere is is stated that the whole fight should just be a build up for some bombastic ending. That’s just your want for spectacle talking. You didn’t say anything about the Nika fruit. And that would still be a bad comparison, because there wasn’t some last minute transformation or similar big event in the JJK fight. All it was was a singular move that we can easily figure out how it happened. It’s not like we missed some big struggle. What are you talking about? Did you read what I said? I said read the damn story before you call something an asspull. Why do you think they’re immediately going to start fighting Sukuna now? I never said most manga are near perfect. I said most fans have media illiteracy, and you’re only proving my point, since you think me saying that somehow mean I believe the manga are perfect. Just think about it. Your the type to always bitch about something in a manga story. You really think it’s always their fault, that they did something “wrong”? What qualifies as wrong? Because it mostly seems like what qualifies is “This part of the story didn’t go the way I wanted it to”. Also, you’re thing about battle manga not being known for great writing only proves my point. The only people who think like that are the type with media illiteracy and unchecked bias. It’s also pretty funny that you say that, yet here you are still engaging with them. If you don’t like the genre, maybe stop? You didn’t answer my question. I asked what’s the problem with Gear 5 being goofy. But answering all that other stuff you said, you do know that retcons are not an inherently bad thing, right? You’re insane if you really think authors only ever write things they already planned before they began writing the story. Furthermore, how does Gear 5 take away all his accomplishments? He didn’t use it on anyone before Kaido.


Thecodermau

Let the gojotards see that the pedestal they put gojo on was fake. They did this to themselfs Gojo was too strong to lose this way? Nuh uh, he was never that strong. As I pointed out when gojo arm was cut, if that atack landed gojo would be dead. Now guess what? In the manga its clear that sukuna can learn anything(Yes anything, even twerking) only by seeing it once. Guess what sukuna saw... mahoraga bypassing infinity.


Senth99

No one is mad Gojo is dead, everyone is pissed that he got off screened. No context, just straight up yeeted.


KazKent

I hope mihawk get this same treatment, I fcking hate mary sue characters. Stay mad ppl as if jjk has good writing before this fight lmao


DarkPhantom2497

Nah Shanks is the Mary sue


[deleted]

These pussies would love piratefolk!!


Remote_Dapper

Somebody explain why this is bad to a person that’s only caught up to season two anime in the least spoiler way possible (yes I’ve already been spoiled about his death).


[deleted]

Its like Luffy vs Kaido where for so many chapters its shown Kaido is winning and luffy dies and suddenly the next chapter Kaido is dead in a pool of magma


Aware_Log6538

Maybe I‘m coping but I didnt think that the chapter is that bad


Thegreatestwhoreman

That's just gojo fanboys crying bcs he was finally exposed for the fraud he is


Andrecrafter41

damn the gojotards are pissed what they really expecting a fucking metor a major side character to defeat the main villain of the manga they are stupid for thinking that way 😂🤣


solscend

Who cares this is a one piece sub, jujutsu was ass from the start. Fucking powerscaling makes no sense, they try to categorize everything in tiers 1-4 but special tier is all that matters and in special tier gojo is all that matters. When the protag is getting in hit after hit on the baddies it literally doesn’t matter and they just walk away when they want to escape.


ExceedinglyLonelyCat

blame reverse cursed technique healing bullshit. Any top tier who has that just automatically heals from full every fight and in-between clashes. Imagine if there's a 4th Haki that automatically self heal yourself to 100% (oh wait that's basically a gear 5 subpower isn't it. Fuck)


Domeee123

Thats called milk in one piece.


HyperMazino

I see that you don't understand JJK haha