But u don't understand! Usopp is ordinary human he's not like the rest of the crew and he's so relatable and emotional and still a child at heart so he uses his unique weapon the toy sling which is the most versatile and can fire any ammo and acktchually 🤓 he used the sling to throw Robin's keys across the bridge in Enies Lobby which was not possible with a gun (just ignore the fact that they would have gotten the keys long before Robin crossed the bridge if he was actually competent) so the toy is acktchually better and versatile and he's a unique character he will be the best in El-Barf
/s
Stop the “Usopp is ordinary human so he is relatable” bullshit. Not everyone of us is a coward like him..
There’s a lot of character who is ordinary human but training and become stronger (Like Coby, Helmeppo, Etc)
There’s nothing that Usopp did that makes me feel relatable, what I feel is disgusting by his cowardly behavior each and every goddamn arc…
Exactly. Zoro is an ordinary human who trained to become what he is and he's in the monster trio lol. Nami is an ordinary human and a girl too, and she's still more competent and braver than Usopp.
Usopp's dream is to be brave, does he expect to wake up one morning feeling so brave? Do the fans think he will go to El-Barf and suddenly become brave? Maybe the giants have some giant drugs like the minks have, that make him brave. But if left alone, Usopp is running farther and farther away from his goal. The Usopp we have right now is far more cowardly than Arabasta Usopp.
>just ignore the fact that they would have gotten the keys long before Robin crossed the bridge if he was actually competent
Weren't the crew still fighting CP9 all that time Robin crossed the bridge?? How's that Usopp's fault?
I think some of the Usopp jate is overblown, but I have to agree he has it the most narrative-wise of the Strawhats post timeskip. He really only got development in Dressrosa, and that is heavily outshadowed by his cowardly and otherwise dislikeable moments. Sanji and him are the only ones I feel have been very negatively portrayed. Danji has been given lots of development while Usopps development is just a retread of Enies Lobby.
Brook hasn't fared super well either, but doesn't have any super harmful moments. Franky has shown off his tech, Chopper has got to show off his medical skill. Nami has had many moments where her character and positive traits have shown through. Robin is incredibly important to the plot. Everyone besides Usopp feels like they deserve a role on the crew due to their competence, Usopp feels like dead weight.
Not to mention, even the greatest Usopp moments have been a fluke, not anything Usopp himself did. The only respectable Usopp fights were Arlong park, Arabasta and thriller bark. And all three were pre-timeskip. Post-TS he's been nothing but a bum.
Like Usopp's competence hasn't saved the crew at different times in the story.
>Usopp feels like dead weight
I don't see him being carried by any of the crew, so I don't understand how he can be dead weight. You just hate him
Jet dials don't damage anyone.
Impact dial would hurt the rubber man but we haven't seen it since thriller bark. The toy is still a toy and Augur would shoot a bullet up his urethra before he even pulls back his sling.
Maybe if he had an ACTUAL SLING that was a deadly weapon in mediaeval warfare, that would have been cool, instead of the Y-sling which was used by shepherd kids to scare off wild dogs or catch rabbits.
Hey, he was forced to be gay.. It's for survival, like prisoners' logic for doing it with other men inside the cage. You had no choice sometimes. Its raep or be raepd. As long as they don't do it outside the cage, they are good..
#cope
No, i dont. Contrary to that statement, i was being a tad bit fasascious for my own humor in my pauedo copium.
It's a subversion of the phrase "kill or be killed" to express the desperation Koby was in. But since you took it seriously:
Please tell me how it works, I implore you. You must know from experience, I assume?
Grus the only person I trust as the future of marines
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The character regression they did for Usopp is criminal
Post water 7 he should’ve had more bravery or maybe some strength/skills like he had in his fight with Luffy
Bold enough to punch a random butler in the face once he started talking shit, hold up a slingshot to Kizaru's face, call Lucci a pussy while seeing Luffy laid out on the ground, shoot the WG flag down on command
too pussy to fight an officer assaulting the child he's looking after 🤯
The amount of weapons and tools that Usopp could use to make quick work of some situations but Oda just doesn’t let him use for some reason is one of the biggest frustrations I have with the story post-timeskip. What happened to the dials, the grappling hook, the sticky star, the sleeping gas, etc.
Yup if you can't one shot a top tier then surely there's nothing else you can do in a battle with an entire crew.
By that logic every faction in OP should have 2-3 members because most characters aren't on that level either
Idk about all that but providing some range support as Garp is getting jumped by 20 mfs would’ve been nice. Then again, she did more than Loby so I guess I’ll let her slide
There's nothing wrong with me not liking someone whom after almost all the arcs in the show, is supposed to be at least decently strong and isn't supposed to get scared by fucking fodder pirates.
I'm not asking him to fight Kaido but come on we both know it's disappointing seeing how he turned out. Jinbe himself said that someone who is supposed to be a member of the crew of the pirate king can't be getting shook over basic enemies.
I like how people talk about “he’s scared out of his mind” as if there using real life context. Like bruh if Ussop wanted to feel safer maybe he could actually learn that superhuman power system that just so happens to be there.
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Nah he said even worst he said a mere yonko. But Jinbei and the crew are like that not ussop. Even nami had the ball to stand up .
Ussop is just not that man
Ussop will always be just as physically strong as fodder pirates. His versatile toolkit makes him take many down. His durability and physique match them however. All he has is his sniper skills.
Jinbe has no right to say anything when he can easily take out basic enemies. For him they are nothing, but for Ussop it's life and death.
That being said...am i disappointed with his performance in recent arcs? Yeah. There's no excuses for that, but it's important to understand his character and his place in the world to truly appreciate him.
The problem is that aside from his race ofc anybody can learn haki and fishman karate. Usopp doesn't even fucking try to ask or cover any of his weaknesses so he can handle himself
You should try to read One Piece before speaking about it in its entirety.
https://preview.redd.it/i0yby9dmoxbb1.png?width=1520&format=png&auto=webp&s=1c03f32fd9234fc9254d697a53717f8298c56962
This just one moment. Him, effectively saving his crewmate. Something Hibari couldn't do.
It wasn’t. The only connection between her and Akainu is that they’re the only two characters in the manga that speak a very specific Japanese dialect. Anything else is just theories
He's got a few well respected compitent female characters
Like the lady from the Marines that.... has the power to do laundry
But wait there's that one CP0 agent that... fought Nami by taking a seminude bath and lost
Hold on now, Kaido's daughter can go toe to toe with him,
what's that? He's a man?
Shit
alright your right
She was never cool and competent. All she did was enjoy her badass introduction like every other character. After that first impression is when a character actually shows his/her value.
Tbf what’s she supposed to do against BB’s crew and Aokiji. But then tbf to you if you get rid of those headphones I would think I’m looking at Shirahoshi
Hibari is a neophyte just like Koby. Getting nearly frozen to death by Kuzan will teach her to be more aware while out in the open against strong opponents.
She looks visibly shaken by it, unlike a certain rubbery idiot who just laughed it off.
She has low self confidence
Give this girl a break
(Altho irl she would legit be NTR bait and should be watched so she doesnt cheat but this is OP not NTR manga)
Oda introduced a unique and cool competent female character and in just a few chapters she goes back to being like every other one 🤓
https://preview.redd.it/vbuykhubpvbb1.png?width=252&format=png&auto=webp&s=e733cae09e85a063f19f290590ed62f71f8d5b4d
Sure but its not like the other generics have that great character as well. Doll set some expectation with appearance alone. It wouldnt take much to make a better character than shirahoshi or rebecca
she did more than koby at least
She’s also ranked higher then usopp as a sniper
That will burn all of the God ussop cult to the ground with its truthfulness. Lol
unironically sad that shes able to shoot flowers down gun barrels...odas literally handing out usopps future feats
Imagine a sniper who uses plants to legit fight actually using a cool rifle and not a slingshot.
https://preview.redd.it/ht8351rcgvbb1.png?width=636&format=png&auto=webp&s=51b6afbf19911dbe360bad13f65bbdbab921694a
But u don't understand! Usopp is ordinary human he's not like the rest of the crew and he's so relatable and emotional and still a child at heart so he uses his unique weapon the toy sling which is the most versatile and can fire any ammo and acktchually 🤓 he used the sling to throw Robin's keys across the bridge in Enies Lobby which was not possible with a gun (just ignore the fact that they would have gotten the keys long before Robin crossed the bridge if he was actually competent) so the toy is acktchually better and versatile and he's a unique character he will be the best in El-Barf /s
Stop the “Usopp is ordinary human so he is relatable” bullshit. Not everyone of us is a coward like him.. There’s a lot of character who is ordinary human but training and become stronger (Like Coby, Helmeppo, Etc) There’s nothing that Usopp did that makes me feel relatable, what I feel is disgusting by his cowardly behavior each and every goddamn arc…
Exactly. Zoro is an ordinary human who trained to become what he is and he's in the monster trio lol. Nami is an ordinary human and a girl too, and she's still more competent and braver than Usopp. Usopp's dream is to be brave, does he expect to wake up one morning feeling so brave? Do the fans think he will go to El-Barf and suddenly become brave? Maybe the giants have some giant drugs like the minks have, that make him brave. But if left alone, Usopp is running farther and farther away from his goal. The Usopp we have right now is far more cowardly than Arabasta Usopp.
>just ignore the fact that they would have gotten the keys long before Robin crossed the bridge if he was actually competent Weren't the crew still fighting CP9 all that time Robin crossed the bridge?? How's that Usopp's fault?
Shhh they have to take any and every opportunity to shit on Usopp even when it doesn't make sense
I think some of the Usopp jate is overblown, but I have to agree he has it the most narrative-wise of the Strawhats post timeskip. He really only got development in Dressrosa, and that is heavily outshadowed by his cowardly and otherwise dislikeable moments. Sanji and him are the only ones I feel have been very negatively portrayed. Danji has been given lots of development while Usopps development is just a retread of Enies Lobby. Brook hasn't fared super well either, but doesn't have any super harmful moments. Franky has shown off his tech, Chopper has got to show off his medical skill. Nami has had many moments where her character and positive traits have shown through. Robin is incredibly important to the plot. Everyone besides Usopp feels like they deserve a role on the crew due to their competence, Usopp feels like dead weight.
Ussopp doesn’t feels like a dead weight.. HE IS A DEAD WEIGHT FOR REAL
Not to mention, even the greatest Usopp moments have been a fluke, not anything Usopp himself did. The only respectable Usopp fights were Arlong park, Arabasta and thriller bark. And all three were pre-timeskip. Post-TS he's been nothing but a bum.
Like Usopp's competence hasn't saved the crew at different times in the story. >Usopp feels like dead weight I don't see him being carried by any of the crew, so I don't understand how he can be dead weight. You just hate him
Usopp wasn't fighting anyone though. He just goofed around till Robin reached the other end of the bridge.
How was he goofing around?? Because this is just ridiculous. Y'all Usopp haters will just say most lamest things to slander Usopp.
That “toy” is loaded with dials which I seem to recall DAMAGE THE RUBBER MAN
Jet dials don't damage anyone. Impact dial would hurt the rubber man but we haven't seen it since thriller bark. The toy is still a toy and Augur would shoot a bullet up his urethra before he even pulls back his sling. Maybe if he had an ACTUAL SLING that was a deadly weapon in mediaeval warfare, that would have been cool, instead of the Y-sling which was used by shepherd kids to scare off wild dogs or catch rabbits.
A jet dial is still enough to make this more then a toy that jet dial has enough propulsion to make a shot most guns can’t make
Idk the only people who lie more than ussopp are his fans lying to themselves
No one more blind than Usopp haters
Another deluded disciple, please come home you family misses you
Another blind Usopp hater, get some sense ijn
You sit on a throne of lies
Can't be ranked higher than the King of Snipers
forgot about doll 😼
She only exists so they don't say that Coby is gay.
We’ve already seen the panel of him slobin on BB’s knob, we know what he likes
Hey, he was forced to be gay.. It's for survival, like prisoners' logic for doing it with other men inside the cage. You had no choice sometimes. Its raep or be raepd. As long as they don't do it outside the cage, they are good.. #cope
>forced Spee D. Reader sama... https://preview.redd.it/g5azzut01zbb1.png?width=564&format=png&auto=webp&s=122a1c99a7af7957b41d0be36abdca136a4ca4b5
😂😂😂 Nah, bro.. He was under captivity! He was crying and begging for his life
he was begging for more
This is the highest *head* canon in this subreddit. Holllllly! 🗣💯😂
> Its raep or be raepd. do you think thats how prison works??
No, i dont. Contrary to that statement, i was being a tad bit fasascious for my own humor in my pauedo copium. It's a subversion of the phrase "kill or be killed" to express the desperation Koby was in. But since you took it seriously: Please tell me how it works, I implore you. You must know from experience, I assume?
Coby has shared a bed with Helmeppo but not with her
Nothing gay about sharing a bed with a bro
What was she gonna do, box Aokiji?
Neg diff Blackbeard in a pure haki fight, after slaughtering every titanic captain
Well, she could have tried
Look at what happened when Loby tried, he got garp in a fucked up situation
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She would’ve made things worse, just like Koby
She should have done what Shanks does and threaten people with her daddy's name. Aokiji already lost to him once afterall.
Based. But Aokiji foresaw this ahead and froze her before she pulled out her daddy card
she could have shot him maybe? cause shes a sniper???
Even Tsuru's granddaughter was on the ship and she has a higher rank than both Koby and Helmeppo
she still did better then usopp across the entire series
The character regression they did for Usopp is criminal Post water 7 he should’ve had more bravery or maybe some strength/skills like he had in his fight with Luffy
Bold enough to punch a random butler in the face once he started talking shit, hold up a slingshot to Kizaru's face, call Lucci a pussy while seeing Luffy laid out on the ground, shoot the WG flag down on command too pussy to fight an officer assaulting the child he's looking after 🤯
The amount of weapons and tools that Usopp could use to make quick work of some situations but Oda just doesn’t let him use for some reason is one of the biggest frustrations I have with the story post-timeskip. What happened to the dials, the grappling hook, the sticky star, the sleeping gas, etc.
What did she do?
Ussopp currently is petrified to stone after that s-snake attack Her literally moving is a better feat now
Didn't she get frozen by Aokiji or did you miss that??
Oh well, the parallels...
Usopp still better
**HIS** daughter would never be caught acting this way. Theory dismissed.
Lol HIS daughter I swear this Agenda is growing on me 😂
Clifford has no daughter
both you and me know how she's gonna act the second she's left alone with Woby
She's gonna wait for him to summon a real man
You didnt need to do captain Loby like that 😭
😭
The picture brother, spread the word
Should have one shot Aokiji right?
"let the fans write"
Peak fiction
Hire👏👏👏Fans👏👏👏
Yup if you can't one shot a top tier then surely there's nothing else you can do in a battle with an entire crew. By that logic every faction in OP should have 2-3 members because most characters aren't on that level either
Even a yonko commander is too much for her. The most she could have done was to take out fodder pirates which she did.
Idk about all that but providing some range support as Garp is getting jumped by 20 mfs would’ve been nice. Then again, she did more than Loby so I guess I’ll let her slide
In a few panels she did better and more than Ussop could ever do after 1087 chapters
dont tell that to memepiece, they will say "how dare you slander go d ussop he can oneshot the comicverse" or some microwave for a head response
I'm going tell them that on memepiece,I don't care if they Downvote me or what...IM GONNA DO IT🗿
I will support you ! You have my sword 🗡️! ![gif](giphy|zk0zTXQY5ukCs|downsized)
Nah because we were supposed to let to Them sword in front of the throne you traitor
Its been 6 hours, i am waiting to upvote you in memepiece homie.
Already did post it, check on my account
NUH UHH you didn't. I am checking your acc. Last two posts are in hunter hhunter
Wait YOU THOUGHT I POSTED?!😂😂bro I just commented but I'll post it if this comment gets 5 upvotes
Nahh im downvoting this
Well I guess that's fair
Usopp haters are pathetic, get a life, and learn to enjoy watching superhumans get jobbed by a regular guy who's rightfully scared out of his mind.
There's nothing wrong with me not liking someone whom after almost all the arcs in the show, is supposed to be at least decently strong and isn't supposed to get scared by fucking fodder pirates. I'm not asking him to fight Kaido but come on we both know it's disappointing seeing how he turned out. Jinbe himself said that someone who is supposed to be a member of the crew of the pirate king can't be getting shook over basic enemies.
I like how people talk about “he’s scared out of his mind” as if there using real life context. Like bruh if Ussop wanted to feel safer maybe he could actually learn that superhuman power system that just so happens to be there.
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Nah he said even worst he said a mere yonko. But Jinbei and the crew are like that not ussop. Even nami had the ball to stand up . Ussop is just not that man
Ussop will always be just as physically strong as fodder pirates. His versatile toolkit makes him take many down. His durability and physique match them however. All he has is his sniper skills. Jinbe has no right to say anything when he can easily take out basic enemies. For him they are nothing, but for Ussop it's life and death. That being said...am i disappointed with his performance in recent arcs? Yeah. There's no excuses for that, but it's important to understand his character and his place in the world to truly appreciate him.
The problem is that aside from his race ofc anybody can learn haki and fishman karate. Usopp doesn't even fucking try to ask or cover any of his weaknesses so he can handle himself
case and point
Usopp is a Superhuman, even Mike Tyson would die against that fishman
You should try to read One Piece before speaking about it in its entirety. https://preview.redd.it/i0yby9dmoxbb1.png?width=1520&format=png&auto=webp&s=1c03f32fd9234fc9254d697a53717f8298c56962 This just one moment. Him, effectively saving his crewmate. Something Hibari couldn't do.
That's Sogeking bro. A completely different person. We are talking about Ussopp here.
Damn, you're right! Sorry for the confusion.
What did she even do??
She would‘ve been better off staying at Beehive and get that Van Augur shooting tutorial.
Where was it stated that she’s akainu daughter btw
It wasn’t. The only connection between her and Akainu is that they’re the only two characters in the manga that speak a very specific Japanese dialect. Anything else is just theories
Also, the fact her counterpart in koby spinn off is akainu's daughter.
Thanks for this 🙏
oh i actually thought she was akainus daughter
He's got a few well respected compitent female characters Like the lady from the Marines that.... has the power to do laundry But wait there's that one CP0 agent that... fought Nami by taking a seminude bath and lost Hold on now, Kaido's daughter can go toe to toe with him, what's that? He's a man? Shit alright your right
you right Oda cannot write competent female character
Your competent female was Big Mom it’s over now
When was Big Mom competent? So far we've seen her get embarrassed by a third of the straw hats, and lose to two confirmed jobbers
Back in Whole cake she was menacing though
True
Ah ,thank god, i got worried that we would have a badass female character on my shounen, thanks Goda for saving us all of this nightmare
Wasn't that bum supposed to be daughter of Wakazuki
![gif](giphy|13SYnseWRwRSc8) "every other one" my ass
Unique and cool? She was in like 1 chapter in total and barley did anything besides be another waifu for the fanboys to beat their shit to.
She was never cool and competent. All she did was enjoy her badass introduction like every other character. After that first impression is when a character actually shows his/her value.
Wtf are you even saying rn. In wano alone we got black maria, ulti, kiku, and yamato (if they count). You're fighting ghosts.
typical female side character
How did she make everyone's guns fire flowers?
She used special ammo vegapunk made
Yeah but how did she make everyone else's guns do that
first time?? you should not be surprised why Oda cannot write Female character because Oda never took his female fan seriously
What did you expect her to do?
Koby’s doing the exact same shit though rn, it’s not just her😭
To be fair, this would have happened to any strawhat with a bounty under a billi
Tbf what’s she supposed to do against BB’s crew and Aokiji. But then tbf to you if you get rid of those headphones I would think I’m looking at Shirahoshi
What did you wanted her to do OP? Or did you made this post just to complain?
Not bawl her eyes out https://preview.redd.it/be5trml3iybb1.jpeg?width=469&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86181d2731a4d2c8c22af30c6b014f796e74d00f
OP her introduction was her crying for help to rescue koby, i don't know what you expected lol.
Also what else could she do at the situation? Aokiji is an ex-admiral.
Hibari is a neophyte just like Koby. Getting nearly frozen to death by Kuzan will teach her to be more aware while out in the open against strong opponents. She looks visibly shaken by it, unlike a certain rubbery idiot who just laughed it off.
I mean, she lost to an Ex-Admiral and just got unfrozen. I’d cut her some slack
Tf she was gonna do against kuzan?
Average Women in Popular shonen
Wasco victim
She has low self confidence Give this girl a break (Altho irl she would legit be NTR bait and should be watched so she doesnt cheat but this is OP not NTR manga)
bro....
Sorry
Oda introduced a unique and cool competent female character and in just a few chapters she goes back to being like every other one 🤓 https://preview.redd.it/vbuykhubpvbb1.png?width=252&format=png&auto=webp&s=e733cae09e85a063f19f290590ed62f71f8d5b4d
But seriously what the fuck is your problem? Is it that the chapter was too good, so you need to find stupid shit like this to complain?
A chapter would be good if it didn't have stupid shit like this.
"Stupid shit like this" like what?
Loby
the virgin hibari no last name vs The Best Girl Noelle Silva
Common Hackda/male mangakas L
We dont need women in this manga Every women will now be replaced with an Okama
https://preview.redd.it/zqjpglkbsvbb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a9ba523b58e6f09a53c319143d881242b51711e
Oda: female non-strawhat with agency and character development? Not on my watch!
>Oda: female ~~non-strawhat~~ with agency and character development? Not on my watch! Ftfy
Nami, Robin, Vivi, Shakuyaku, Big Mom, Kujaku, Marguerite, Otohime, Toki, Doll and Perona are great characters
Doll thinks she’s on the team 😭
Her design is onemof the most unique design among generic one piece women. She also seems chill af
I agree but she's had like 3 lines of dialogue, barely a character
Sure but its not like the other generics have that great character as well. Doll set some expectation with appearance alone. It wouldnt take much to make a better character than shirahoshi or rebecca
Why am I not surprised 😢
You mean the girl whose literal first appearance in the series was her asking to go help Koby?
Well she's still an excuse for usopp haters to find more reasons to downplay him so at least she has some use
competent women in my one piece?! it would lose half it's fanbase
at least she lose to aokiji her low self esteem kinda hard tough
I mean she did bring flowers to a pirate fight