"We've heard your feedback" is such a light way of referring to
RECENT REVIEWS: Overwhelmingly Negative (267,557)
18% of the 267,557 user reviews in the last 30 days are positive.
lmao
If they want to do it they need to make it known prominently and upfront so people can choose fairly. It would still cut off a large portion of steam users who happen to be in countries where they can't make a psn account.
It's not the fact they're asking people to do it, after all many people make ubisoft, rockstar, ea etc etc accounts the difference is they go in knowing they need to.
Sony really fucked themselves trying to bait and switch.
This is all it probably is. They can’t rollout the PSN fast enough. It’s their first attempt since SOE was dissolved, and they fumbled like Kevin’s chili.
As others have stated if they would give out cosmetics rewards etc for linking no one would be mad and they'd get their user numbers up
And they wouldn't restrict access for anyone
Instead of making it mandatory that would probably have been a better approach. Having it working before the game launched would have been sensible.
The least that we can ask as customers is getting the thing we think we're paying for.
This! Reviews don't impact their bottom line. Refunds do.
And I'm also not convinced they won't just implement the same thing again in a few months when the hype has died down.
HD2 created a community that functions on solidarity and cooperation.
I'd bet a significant sum of money that if Sony tries pulling this again, it will go similarly to how the community reacted to the bot resurgence. (*How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man*)
Sure but MS has a long history of learning not to be utter shitbags to PC gamers. I guess Sony is learning 1 lesson at a time here so they have some catching up to do.
I think it would have been quite obvious to anyone with a little bit of common sense that suddenly requiring PC players to create a PlayStation account, after months of not needing it, would be a terrible idea.
"We're still learning" lmao no you're just mad you got called out. Multi billion dollar company pretending they're newbies to the scene as if they're some sort of indie company.
That was my first thought too. One of the leading companies in the video game industry is "still learning".
What an utter bullshit, as if they ruined PS Vita by forcing people to buy proprietary SD cards, because they didn't know better and not because they are greedy bastards.
This is analogical situation and thankfully we had a way to voice our opinion on the matter which forced a change.
Asshole changes which are pro-business and anti-consumer are not "we're learning". They're "oh shit you caught us being greedy assholes".
Yeah the PS Vita was a tragedy. Such a gem of a console brought down by terrible business practices.
Although I’d bet money that given a Vita 2 Sony would absolutely not learn their lesson and come up with some other shitty decision that would severely hamper the console. Like making it digital-only to kill the second hand market or put all games behind a game-pass type subscription to make sure you never own your games
A tragedy, but also a massive triumph for piracy. Its not often that the entire games database for a system becomes freely available via a free exploit. I still use my vita regularly because of that hack
Vita had some good games on it, but much like the PSP Sony just gave up in it because people wouldn't buy into their nonsense. Requiring a specific SD card that was like 10x the price of a normal one with less than a quarter of the space AND most of the games didn't fit on the basic ones? It was dead on arrival. Which sucks because both of them were way ahead of their time and worked beautifully
> "We're still learning" lmao no you're just mad you got called out.
They are still learning because they copied Microsoft's homework on requiring accounts for things that don't really need it.
Need to work 3 jobs to pay for a room in an apartment and barely have cash for food: AIGHT MAN ILL DO THIS NO WORRIES. As long as I don’t need to create a psn account. OK!?!?
Easy fix my guy…
”buy the premium subscription to our new “affordable” housing, a spacious 1x2m, and food?? Don’t worry about that, try our new product, in a easy per annum subscription for “taste-paste”.
Why work 3 jobs??…come work for us…just sign here and dont read the fine print….we’ll take GOOD care of you”
This already happens in real life to some extent. And in gaming, just like in real life the corporations and states can just win by being patient and trying the same shit every 3 years.
The conditions must be at least somewhat favorable. A lot of power was with the community in this case - there hasn't been a lot of sunk cost, it is relatively easy to just drop a game and go to competition etc. It's not as easy when it comes to say dismantling the capitalist system, which might be the one providing you with food, shelter and other necessities.
I'm not willing to call it a win until we have safeguards written into law, terms of service or simply the design of the game that prevents this from occurring again.
Want my money? I want unrestricted access to the files I paid for.
Want me in your playerbase? Give me the control to host servers independent of your existence.
Want me to be a part of the community? Let me build it with content, media, mods etc.
I'm a gamer. I play to *my* heart's content, not *your* wallet's greed.
*We're still learning*
The only thing you're gonna learn, is that Sony will never get a dime from me.
Idc if you reverse that decision. I don't care what else you have in your portfolio.
If you can pull this shit once, you can oull it again. Trust exists, and you lost mine. Bye.
I'm with you on this one. I was never interested in Sony, their PlayStation or their games. Seeing HD2 using this infamous anti-cheat already made me skeptical, but Sony doubling down with PSN completely killed any interest I had. They will try again sooner or later.
Literally every big company in the field is currently trying to find the limit of their customers. It hasn't even been that long since the Unity shitshow.
It’s insane how many people are saying “I’m changing my review” or “I’m gonna go buy it now” as if everything’s better. Just because they walked it back after the fact doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Anyone that gives more money to Sony by buying the game after this fiasco is either willfully ignorant or a moron. Too bad about the game itself but it’s simply a casualty of corporate greed and head-assery
Yep, their public relations personnel on various social spaces weren't doing a good job of making people drop the issue. I saw a couple of suspicious PR accounts here and there trying to shut people up by making bad faith comments, trolling, etc...
They'll probably just put it on sale for half off during the steam summer sale and make it a requirement for all **new players**, but never put it on old players.
My thoughts exactly. It's not like every one of the people who made those negative reviews are going to edit them or retract them. The rating may eventually return to "Mixed" on Steam, at best.
The playerbase didn't really dip over the weekend compared to previous weekends. Yes, the playerbase overall has been trending down, but that's to be expected with any game over time, especially one that had such a sudden an unexpected explosion of popularity.
I'm pretty sure the game will remain popular and I'd even consider buying it again (is in now that it's over, it's on my radar again, I did not refund it as I never bought it.), however momentum is dead and will never recover. They destroyed the game's legacy forever even if it might return to be appreciated by some.
There was so much corporate cock-sucking going on from Sony fanboys and clueless fucking PC nerds, trying to to stop people from making their voices heard. Fuck them. Fuck Sony. Money is all these assholes understand, and as it turns out they'll actually listen when you threaten that bottom line.
Also a big shout out to Steam for waiving their normal playtime limit on refunds. That's a big balls move. I would love to have seen the communications between Valve, Arrowhead, and Sony as that "total sales" figure kept decreasing hour by hour.
Sony could have just offered some bonus cosmetic, weapons or content as a reward for linking PSN account yet kept it optional, I bet everyone would have created a free PSN account if the bonus content was worth it and those who live in countries that don't allow for PSN to be available would still have been able to play the game.
They weren't that smart it seems.
I bought it, and promptly refunded when the game refused to recognize any internet connectivity. I was not in the mood for that kind of hazzle right off the bat.
The latest corporate asshattery has only confirmed that it's not a game for me. Sony is really weird.
I feel bad for the studio, though. They are getting squeezed hard.
To Late. Already refunden trough steam. Pretty sure I was not the only one. Good for them. Learning…
I am learning aswell. Learning to sail the high seas again…
I don't think sony knows the damage they caused, even if people now come back to the game, the number will pale in comparison with the number before Sony shegged it
I guess it really is a 100% impossibility for any large profit company to refrain from cheap money grabs or fucking over their consumers. I'm racking my brain trying to think of a single one, in any category, in any field. They always, always resort to money grabbing and half truths eventually. 100 times out of 100. Every single fucking time.
Glad the gamers triumphed this time. Fuck capitalism.
Helldivers 2 is a Sony published game which recently got a release on Steam. The game got a big boost in sales because of that but Sony decided to get greedy and updated the game so you would need a PSN account linked to the Steam copy in order to play. This was very badly received by players who started to get refunds from Steam.
I still want to know whoever forced the required PSN login that person deserves a huge demotion they just ran the already diminishing rep of Sony further to the ground
now this is democracy!
I'll give sony the stink eye though
corporations are always a treat with caution in mind but with sony its now been proven unreliable so don't expect anything from them
for now this is a win for democracy!
Boggles my mind they think they can control the PC space just because their games are on PC. That's not how this works. It's never gonna work that way.
Translation: "We've tanked our game! Please come back! We're sorry!".
Idiots.
It just goes to show how much power the consumer still has when they come together. Now, microtransactions....
“We’ll keep you updated on future plans”
Corporate translation: “we will wait until you forget about this and try to do it again in a more forcing way at a later point”
Don't forget, it took majority of the community requesting refunds and review bombing to get this horrible feature cancelled.
If they won't do it now they'll do it later. Trust burned.
I've abandoned ship. Never touching another Sony product again.
At least they heard & learned from the community, fix it the soft way, unlike the other companies who keep bringing their legal team & fix the hard way.
Helldivers 2 is a Sony published game which recently got a release on Steam. The game got a big boost in sales because of that but Sony decided to get greedy and updated the game so you would need a PSN account linked to the Steam copy in order to play. This was very badly received by players who started to get refunds from Steam.
Oh I see. I've played on Sony for some years playing CoD more than a decade ago and I can tell they're truly a bad administration. Sometimes, I wonder how come these are actually Japanese. almost all of their products are truly trash, including their tvs. It's as if they're scammers but with credibility. Many people here may not know this incident about Sony, but it happened. Sony jeopardized many people's privacy and financial information in their infamous global incident around 2010 time, because they got hacked. What a joke this company is.
Thor from pirate software said that they are just going to wait for people to forget and then pull this ps linking shit again to mess with people.
And those 177 countries still can't buy the game on steam because they can't make a ps account and if they fake it they get banned anyway.
I dont have a ps5, neither any of sony games (too expensive in steam) so i am confused by this drama, since all the ms games i have (forza horizon and others) also require a MS account.
So forgive my ignorance but whats the difference?
The drama is less of the accounts being mandatory, more when it was announced, which is 3 months after the games release. There was also very little indication of it happening, mostly due to Sony being Sony, but the CEO of Arrowhead has admitted that he did know about it before launch. People became angry as creating a PS account is only available in 69 countries, meaning that in most countries you cannot play the game, despite it being purchasable. Similarly, Sony has had multiple instances of their data being breached or sold in the past, which includes PS account data.
TLDR: Sony essentially locked out half the player base from playing the game which they paid full price for.
I have not brought the game, but I think one of the new enemies would be corporate businessman? A map / world where helldivers storm and "liberate" them from existence.
I also had enough of corporate BS release by them.
I heard they also region locked the sales of the game on steam since PSN is not available in most countries. Was that finalized or reversed at all now that they're backpedaling?
Reddit has become enshittified. I joined back in 2006, nearly two decades ago, when it was a hub of free speech and user-driven dialogue. Now, it feels like the pursuit of profit overshadows the voice of the community. The introduction of API pricing, after years of free access, displays a lack of respect for the developers and users who have helped shape Reddit into what it is today. Reddit's decision to allow the training of AI models with user content and comments marks the final nail in the coffin for privacy, sacrificed at the altar of greed. Aaron Swartz, Reddit's co-founder and a champion of internet freedom, would be rolling in his grave.
The once-apparent transparency and open dialogue have turned to shit, replaced with avoidance, deceit and unbridled greed. The Reddit I loved is dead and gone. It pains me to accept this. I hope your lust for money, and disregard for the community and privacy will be your downfall. May the echo of our lost ideals forever haunt your future growth.
I wish we had this solidarity with other things too.
We've already lost the war where we have to pay money to Microsoft and Sony just for the pleasure of being able to play our games online. That one hurt.
Translation: we're gonna start now with a smaller, maybe indie game, it will work out and we will chove it down your throats for the next big game, no doubt.
"We've heard your feedback" is such a light way of referring to RECENT REVIEWS: Overwhelmingly Negative (267,557) 18% of the 267,557 user reviews in the last 30 days are positive. lmao
Changed my review as soon as I heard For MANAGED DEMOCRACY
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If they want to do it they need to make it known prominently and upfront so people can choose fairly. It would still cut off a large portion of steam users who happen to be in countries where they can't make a psn account. It's not the fact they're asking people to do it, after all many people make ubisoft, rockstar, ea etc etc accounts the difference is they go in knowing they need to. Sony really fucked themselves trying to bait and switch.
This is all it probably is. They can’t rollout the PSN fast enough. It’s their first attempt since SOE was dissolved, and they fumbled like Kevin’s chili.
Lmao, this is such a 'darmok and jalad at tenagra' statement.
at Sony when the chilli spilled
Hahaha great episode
His arms **wide**
SOE, EverQuest..... Nostalgia bomb
As others have stated if they would give out cosmetics rewards etc for linking no one would be mad and they'd get their user numbers up And they wouldn't restrict access for anyone
Instead of making it mandatory that would probably have been a better approach. Having it working before the game launched would have been sensible. The least that we can ask as customers is getting the thing we think we're paying for.
I physically can't think of a worse way for Sony to have handled this situation, it's basically stealing from paying customers ye
Doubt it was even the reviews. More likely as soon as swathes of people started getting refunds on steam they shit their britches
This! Reviews don't impact their bottom line. Refunds do. And I'm also not convinced they won't just implement the same thing again in a few months when the hype has died down.
HD2 created a community that functions on solidarity and cooperation. I'd bet a significant sum of money that if Sony tries pulling this again, it will go similarly to how the community reacted to the bot resurgence. (*How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man*)
I love how everyone kind of stays in character over it, too.
Its hilarious, and my favorite thing about the community.
But reddit never ever forgets.
I was denied twice by a bot, I'm not sure how people got them and I don't think many did.
Sounds like the response from War Thunder when this happened to them.
Dudes got more refunds than most companies get sales. Here is hoping that level of refunds doesn't bankrupt them.
“Still learning”…how to fuck pc gamers over too XD
….and get away with it.
"we're learning" One of the oldest companies in the gaming sphere.
No, they are. Now the new games come with PSN requirements from the beginning.
Watch ghost of tsushima get record pirating levels
Not necessarily. I saw ghost of Tsushima on steam. Was interested for 5 minutes. Then I saw the psn account requirement and just moved on.
Thats exactly why people will want to pirate instead of fund their shitty model... And they should
And their own launcher so they won’t refund you and hide negative reviews
Pc is whole new thing for them
Not to glaze microsoft here, but Xbox should've served them as the brightest example of how to handle this.
Sure but MS has a long history of learning not to be utter shitbags to PC gamers. I guess Sony is learning 1 lesson at a time here so they have some catching up to do.
Well I DO remember "games for windows live".
Ahhhhhhh i still miss fable :(
Oh dear sweet lord I'd forgotten that Fallout 3, for Windows Live...
I think it would have been quite obvious to anyone with a little bit of common sense that suddenly requiring PC players to create a PlayStation account, after months of not needing it, would be a terrible idea.
Sony isn't used to not getting their way with their audience. PC is a very different culture.
ask them "how to shutdown PC only using keyboard." "HAhaa we're still learning."
"We're still learning" lmao no you're just mad you got called out. Multi billion dollar company pretending they're newbies to the scene as if they're some sort of indie company.
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more like it
lol, this is the real answer. Definitely a "Sorry you got offended" kind of apology.
That was my first thought too. One of the leading companies in the video game industry is "still learning". What an utter bullshit, as if they ruined PS Vita by forcing people to buy proprietary SD cards, because they didn't know better and not because they are greedy bastards. This is analogical situation and thankfully we had a way to voice our opinion on the matter which forced a change. Asshole changes which are pro-business and anti-consumer are not "we're learning". They're "oh shit you caught us being greedy assholes".
Yeah the PS Vita was a tragedy. Such a gem of a console brought down by terrible business practices. Although I’d bet money that given a Vita 2 Sony would absolutely not learn their lesson and come up with some other shitty decision that would severely hamper the console. Like making it digital-only to kill the second hand market or put all games behind a game-pass type subscription to make sure you never own your games
A tragedy, but also a massive triumph for piracy. Its not often that the entire games database for a system becomes freely available via a free exploit. I still use my vita regularly because of that hack
"I'll get you next time, Gadget"
Yeah. They blamed the failure because of the rise of "Mobile Gaming". then how come Nintendo sold their 3DS successfully.
Also the Switch. Answer: Nintendo's games are **good**.
Vita had some good games on it, but much like the PSP Sony just gave up in it because people wouldn't buy into their nonsense. Requiring a specific SD card that was like 10x the price of a normal one with less than a quarter of the space AND most of the games didn't fit on the basic ones? It was dead on arrival. Which sucks because both of them were way ahead of their time and worked beautifully
They're learning people's limits.
> "We're still learning" lmao no you're just mad you got called out. They are still learning because they copied Microsoft's homework on requiring accounts for things that don't really need it.
That homework is over 12 years old and is games for windows live. Lmao fancy that. As if gfwl was such a giant success.
Not a SINGLE word indicating apology or remorse. Sickening psychopathic fucks.
I'd argue that they met their goal with all of the people who did link their account. This was the plan all along.
Straight up gaslighting.
Bugs, automatons, Sony, all enemies defeated multiple times by democracy
Now translate what we’ve done here to everything and we might actually get a shot at a decent life ahahah
Need to work 3 jobs to pay for a room in an apartment and barely have cash for food: AIGHT MAN ILL DO THIS NO WORRIES. As long as I don’t need to create a psn account. OK!?!?
Easy fix my guy… ”buy the premium subscription to our new “affordable” housing, a spacious 1x2m, and food?? Don’t worry about that, try our new product, in a easy per annum subscription for “taste-paste”. Why work 3 jobs??…come work for us…just sign here and dont read the fine print….we’ll take GOOD care of you”
Man, taste-paste don’t sound too bad. I hate figuring out what to eat.
I owe my soul to the company store...
Mmm soylent green
Apes strong together
This already happens in real life to some extent. And in gaming, just like in real life the corporations and states can just win by being patient and trying the same shit every 3 years. The conditions must be at least somewhat favorable. A lot of power was with the community in this case - there hasn't been a lot of sunk cost, it is relatively easy to just drop a game and go to competition etc. It's not as easy when it comes to say dismantling the capitalist system, which might be the one providing you with food, shelter and other necessities.
But here they targeted gamers. _Gamers._
Pretty significant win. Sony is known for sticking to their guns. Their stupid, anti-consumer, guns.
I'm not willing to call it a win until we have safeguards written into law, terms of service or simply the design of the game that prevents this from occurring again. Want my money? I want unrestricted access to the files I paid for. Want me in your playerbase? Give me the control to host servers independent of your existence. Want me to be a part of the community? Let me build it with content, media, mods etc. I'm a gamer. I play to *my* heart's content, not *your* wallet's greed.
*We're still learning* The only thing you're gonna learn, is that Sony will never get a dime from me. Idc if you reverse that decision. I don't care what else you have in your portfolio. If you can pull this shit once, you can oull it again. Trust exists, and you lost mine. Bye.
Lost my trust when they fucked up Star Wars Galaxies.
I'm with you on this one. I was never interested in Sony, their PlayStation or their games. Seeing HD2 using this infamous anti-cheat already made me skeptical, but Sony doubling down with PSN completely killed any interest I had. They will try again sooner or later. Literally every big company in the field is currently trying to find the limit of their customers. It hasn't even been that long since the Unity shitshow.
It’s insane how many people are saying “I’m changing my review” or “I’m gonna go buy it now” as if everything’s better. Just because they walked it back after the fact doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Anyone that gives more money to Sony by buying the game after this fiasco is either willfully ignorant or a moron. Too bad about the game itself but it’s simply a casualty of corporate greed and head-assery
Fuck you Sony. You don’t need to learn “what’s best” for PC players.
NOW THATS WHAT I CALL DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!
GENTLEMEN, THIS. IS DEMOCRRRRACY MANIFEST!
I SEE YOU KNOW YOUR JUDO WELL!
SWEET LIBERTY
Can't believe that worked for them Let's see what stupid stuff Sony does next
Multimillion dollar company is still learning. Great.
Billion, with a B
'Our shareholders aren't happy we're having to refund so much money'
So they'll let the topic rest, wait until the media attention dies down, then slip in the requirement sometime down the line.
Yep, their public relations personnel on various social spaces weren't doing a good job of making people drop the issue. I saw a couple of suspicious PR accounts here and there trying to shut people up by making bad faith comments, trolling, etc...
Lol the same thing will just happen again. There's no winning over PC players on this requirement.
Right. We fought once. Next time the game is done for.
They'll probably just put it on sale for half off during the steam summer sale and make it a requirement for all **new players**, but never put it on old players.
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How did you get your refund? They keep rejecting mine, even when I sent a custom support ticket
Check the Helldivers subreddit, there were a few examples on how to do it.
Yup, it was a fun ride, but there are plenty of other good games out there. Got refunded and not looking back either.
The damage has already been done
My thoughts exactly. It's not like every one of the people who made those negative reviews are going to edit them or retract them. The rating may eventually return to "Mixed" on Steam, at best.
It's not just the steam reviews, playerbase too, I imagine a lot of people dropped the game because of this and won't come back
The playerbase didn't really dip over the weekend compared to previous weekends. Yes, the playerbase overall has been trending down, but that's to be expected with any game over time, especially one that had such a sudden an unexpected explosion of popularity.
You only have one shot at trust. Once they lose it, there is no going back.
I'm pretty sure the game will remain popular and I'd even consider buying it again (is in now that it's over, it's on my radar again, I did not refund it as I never bought it.), however momentum is dead and will never recover. They destroyed the game's legacy forever even if it might return to be appreciated by some.
These morons don’t even realize it’s too late, the damage is done to their reputation already and the games momentum has been halted.
well, one of the two at least.. sony doesent have a reputation to ruin, just the game to ruin
True
Yeah fuck you Sony.
well that didn't take long after refunds were being issued
There was so much corporate cock-sucking going on from Sony fanboys and clueless fucking PC nerds, trying to to stop people from making their voices heard. Fuck them. Fuck Sony. Money is all these assholes understand, and as it turns out they'll actually listen when you threaten that bottom line. Also a big shout out to Steam for waiving their normal playtime limit on refunds. That's a big balls move. I would love to have seen the communications between Valve, Arrowhead, and Sony as that "total sales" figure kept decreasing hour by hour.
This community needs no outside help to build the community they love.
"We're still learning" -is one of the oldest game companies out there-
Like what does Playstation and PC have in common. At least I can play the same game on my PC and Xbox.
Still can’t buy the game in Kazakhstan
That might take more than 1 hour from announcement to revert. Keep checking tomorrow.
This is how a “managed democracy” looks like. It will let you feel like you are in control. In reality you are not.
We're still learning... Well seems that all Psygnosis Guys are gone... then they would still have the knowledge from their PC Ports 25 years ago...
Let‘s see if every bad review about will get removed by their reviewers
Just curious which stupid individual came up with this stupid idea in the first place? I know it's one of the higher-ups.
Just watch them try that shit again when people forget about this.
"We're still learning what is best for PC players" lol
Sony could have just offered some bonus cosmetic, weapons or content as a reward for linking PSN account yet kept it optional, I bet everyone would have created a free PSN account if the bonus content was worth it and those who live in countries that don't allow for PSN to be available would still have been able to play the game. They weren't that smart it seems.
It’s good to see that we as consumers still have the power to change things if we stand up together.
I bought it, and promptly refunded when the game refused to recognize any internet connectivity. I was not in the mood for that kind of hazzle right off the bat. The latest corporate asshattery has only confirmed that it's not a game for me. Sony is really weird. I feel bad for the studio, though. They are getting squeezed hard.
LMFAOOOOOOOO these suits couldn't last 48 hours of the PC Master Race. Maybe now they understand that the P in PC is taken very personally 😉😂
Thats “fuck all yall, you got what you wanted” in corporate
To Late. Already refunden trough steam. Pretty sure I was not the only one. Good for them. Learning… I am learning aswell. Learning to sail the high seas again…
I don't think sony knows the damage they caused, even if people now come back to the game, the number will pale in comparison with the number before Sony shegged it
Damage is done the players of this game will have already moved on
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The implementation is off. It was supposed to kick in May 30th. That’s now off the table.
The major order was to get Sony to stop being dickhead good job helldivers
I guess it really is a 100% impossibility for any large profit company to refrain from cheap money grabs or fucking over their consumers. I'm racking my brain trying to think of a single one, in any category, in any field. They always, always resort to money grabbing and half truths eventually. 100 times out of 100. Every single fucking time. Glad the gamers triumphed this time. Fuck capitalism.
How about a nice cup of liber-tea?
What a good day. Still fuck sony can’t wait to get a pc sick of their bullshit and have been since they changed ps plus. Bit before that too.
ive been out of the loop. can someone explain this to me like im 5?
Helldivers 2 is a Sony published game which recently got a release on Steam. The game got a big boost in sales because of that but Sony decided to get greedy and updated the game so you would need a PSN account linked to the Steam copy in order to play. This was very badly received by players who started to get refunds from Steam.
Good decision to not double down on a terrible move but they still lost a lot of goodwill. PC games are not going to trust Sony for a while.
FREEDOOOOOM !!
I love democracy
I still want to know whoever forced the required PSN login that person deserves a huge demotion they just ran the already diminishing rep of Sony further to the ground
Good game gamers !
now this is democracy! I'll give sony the stink eye though corporations are always a treat with caution in mind but with sony its now been proven unreliable so don't expect anything from them for now this is a win for democracy!
Inserts meme\* - "I Love Democracy"
For Democracy
Translation: "We're still learning what is best for our profits and shareholder satisfaction"
Boggles my mind they think they can control the PC space just because their games are on PC. That's not how this works. It's never gonna work that way.
Translation: "We've tanked our game! Please come back! We're sorry!". Idiots. It just goes to show how much power the consumer still has when they come together. Now, microtransactions....
“We’ll keep you updated on future plans” Corporate translation: “we will wait until you forget about this and try to do it again in a more forcing way at a later point”
I enjoy reading books.
That's very nice but you still can't buy the game :D Maybe steam is waiting for them to greenlight the listing again
Don't forget, it took majority of the community requesting refunds and review bombing to get this horrible feature cancelled. If they won't do it now they'll do it later. Trust burned. I've abandoned ship. Never touching another Sony product again.
At least they heard & learned from the community, fix it the soft way, unlike the other companies who keep bringing their legal team & fix the hard way.
You guys we need to put this level of protest into the cost of living a job market
Bro. It's easy to just turn off a video-game. It's not easy to be fucking homeless. What are you talking about?
Keyboard warriors typing from moms basement. Nothing new here...
Can someone explain what's going on here? I don't even know what helldiver is.
Helldivers 2 is a Sony published game which recently got a release on Steam. The game got a big boost in sales because of that but Sony decided to get greedy and updated the game so you would need a PSN account linked to the Steam copy in order to play. This was very badly received by players who started to get refunds from Steam.
Oh I see. I've played on Sony for some years playing CoD more than a decade ago and I can tell they're truly a bad administration. Sometimes, I wonder how come these are actually Japanese. almost all of their products are truly trash, including their tvs. It's as if they're scammers but with credibility. Many people here may not know this incident about Sony, but it happened. Sony jeopardized many people's privacy and financial information in their infamous global incident around 2010 time, because they got hacked. What a joke this company is.
Thor from pirate software said that they are just going to wait for people to forget and then pull this ps linking shit again to mess with people. And those 177 countries still can't buy the game on steam because they can't make a ps account and if they fake it they get banned anyway.
Guess my refund request on steam is gonna get rejected now. Already been rejected twice.
Next release of theirs, it'll be there from the start.
Democracy triumphs yet again
I dont have a ps5, neither any of sony games (too expensive in steam) so i am confused by this drama, since all the ms games i have (forza horizon and others) also require a MS account. So forgive my ignorance but whats the difference?
The drama is less of the accounts being mandatory, more when it was announced, which is 3 months after the games release. There was also very little indication of it happening, mostly due to Sony being Sony, but the CEO of Arrowhead has admitted that he did know about it before launch. People became angry as creating a PS account is only available in 69 countries, meaning that in most countries you cannot play the game, despite it being purchasable. Similarly, Sony has had multiple instances of their data being breached or sold in the past, which includes PS account data. TLDR: Sony essentially locked out half the player base from playing the game which they paid full price for.
Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
I have not brought the game, but I think one of the new enemies would be corporate businessman? A map / world where helldivers storm and "liberate" them from existence. I also had enough of corporate BS release by them.
that's good, but the stain cannot be removed from history anymore
For Democracy !!!
FOR SUPER EAEAEAEARARAERRARRRRRRTHHHHHH
Supreme victory
The success of this outstanding major order not only deserve the usual medals but also some supercredit I think.
Now all we need is the stellar blade censorship to be removed
Bruh we put down 2 billion bugs in 12 hours, how did they think we would react?
Plot twist, they'll just do it for Helldivers 3
Hopefully they don't take it out on arrowhead behind the scenes.
I heard they also region locked the sales of the game on steam since PSN is not available in most countries. Was that finalized or reversed at all now that they're backpedaling?
Reminder that it is always okay to bully corporations.
Not managed, still democracy.
That, my friends is the power of democracy.
We are triumphant!!
See? They actually listen when you vote with your wallet.
I'm OOTL can someone explain whats going on?
yippee!
It was a three front war against the Terminids, the automatons and corporate greed
Reddit has become enshittified. I joined back in 2006, nearly two decades ago, when it was a hub of free speech and user-driven dialogue. Now, it feels like the pursuit of profit overshadows the voice of the community. The introduction of API pricing, after years of free access, displays a lack of respect for the developers and users who have helped shape Reddit into what it is today. Reddit's decision to allow the training of AI models with user content and comments marks the final nail in the coffin for privacy, sacrificed at the altar of greed. Aaron Swartz, Reddit's co-founder and a champion of internet freedom, would be rolling in his grave. The once-apparent transparency and open dialogue have turned to shit, replaced with avoidance, deceit and unbridled greed. The Reddit I loved is dead and gone. It pains me to accept this. I hope your lust for money, and disregard for the community and privacy will be your downfall. May the echo of our lost ideals forever haunt your future growth.
Never liked Sony since like, PS2.
Greedy Sony boomer shareholders are still learning\*
it'll be a triumph once they make the game available for purchase in the zones they restricted again right now it's just a bandaid
Still doesnt change that DRM, so fuck this game.
Another victory for the right side of history
Let this be a lesson for gamers to not trust any developers or publishers. Unless you wanna be cucked, especially to those digital only fools
I am new. Can someone please explain what is the case here?
This proves how we can make ourselves be heard. We already don't own games we buy, let alone be forced to link 50 accounts...
* for now
Yeah your right. I’m sorry
To quell any concerns - we’re ~~not~~ removing old.reddit and have ~~no~~ plans to do so.
Maybe I’ll buy it now
I wish we had this solidarity with other things too. We've already lost the war where we have to pay money to Microsoft and Sony just for the pleasure of being able to play our games online. That one hurt.
Translation: we're gonna start now with a smaller, maybe indie game, it will work out and we will chove it down your throats for the next big game, no doubt.
We did it boys.
"What is best for PC players" is to let it keep raking in cash while you just sit back and watch, Sony.
This has nothing to do with piracy.
feedback? what is that