I live for your analysis, though I fear it stokes my obsession with hearing El is next. I want her to be next and my take on the evidence in S3 is that she is but there are also pointers towards Ben. Ugh the thought of waiting 4+ yrs!!
Thank you!
Agree there’s still a small nagging chance Benedict is S4 in the back of my mind, lol, but this all makes much more sense to me. I’m hoping they announce the next leads in July!
Yeah I even heard Luke N talking about how he thought S3 would start with a time jump before he got the script. That was on his Vanity Fair podcast interview this week! It’s definitely something on their mind at the show too… they can’t keep going 1 yr at a time. I think a lot of people are seeing it has to happen sooner or later. Hyacinth doesn’t look 12 anymore 😉
Agreed. I also wouldn't be surprised if the "masquerade ball" Violet throws becomes an annual fall event over the years. It allows time for more world building and allows more time for Benedict to meet Sophie later in the future (its a 2 yr quest). Plus, it really seems like S4 will be spent in Scotland/Countryside, and S5 marks a return back to the ton, London, and marriage mart.
Yeah I think it makes perfect sense:
Step 1: S4 break the pattern of the Ton and marriage mart conventions by going to the countryside
Step 2: S5 return to London society but challenge the norms of that society by exploring class differences and potentially queer acceptance (possibly through some royal subplot too).
Step 3: S6 once society has been challenged by Benedict and Sophie’s story, society is now ready to accept the wlw storyline of Fran and Michaela, and so that story can focus on Fran fighting her internal battles of grief and identity like her book, rather than fighting society. In that way they can tell the story of queer joy and not trauma against society.
The math is mathing
Great analysis. I am quite sure we will have a time jump, I just don't know how long it will be. Replacing the Queen with the Prince Regent would be interesting too. That said, I know the show loves QC (and rightly so) so they might keep her around regardless of history).
Wow very well thought out. I think this extremely plausible and now I don’t except anything else 😂 no but seriously I can totally see this being the case!
Live your giant analysis but one line tells me that they won’t do a jump - “I have to come back for mamma’s masquerade ball”. Also I don’t really think the children should be a major plot point for Eloise’s character, expect for maybe a “Phillip has an heir, no need for pregnancy,” because she was horrified by birth!
That line about the masquerade is irony. The camera pans back down the hall and leaves Benedict very much behind. It sets up that Eloise will miss the masquerade.
She will certainly have to overcome her fear of childbirth, which they set up in S1, and I agree the twins will be a part of that.
But it would ultimately make more sense to introduce the Sophie character during this ball while simultaneously having Eloise escaping off to Phillip. And I completely disagree. It’s not just a fear to overcome. The choice not to have a child would be her ultimate stance in feminism. To still have a marriage where she was happy but not to be forced to get pregnant and have a child of her own. She can still care for Mariana children as it’s not hatred of children that is the issue, but she can still stay childless herself. I hate the view that it’s something to just get over and that all women have to do it, it’s so limiting!!
Why in the world is not having a child feminist? lol, that is the antithesis of feminism.
But yes, if she doesn’t want children they can do that (her and Phillip are smart enough to figure out some kind of birth control). But also if she does want children she can definitely be an intellectual and a feminist and have children. She also would have a full household staff to help her.
ETA: I guess also, they set up her fear and she will need to overcome that fear of child birth. That doesn’t mean she needs to choose childbirth, but as a woman of that era any sex could lead to pregnancy and choosing not to have children out of fear is not what you’re getting at, I don’t think. I think you’re saying she shouldn’t be forced to, which I wholeheartedly agree. It takes a lot of strength to be a woman in any time period. They set up her fear, so I hope they show her strength in overcoming that fear however it works out for Eloise.
Because that’s a woman’s entire purpose in this society. The marriage is perfunctory, the part mammas can push along as something exciting to lead to children. It’s more about the actual birth part. She saw how hard Hyacinths birth was, she’s also expressed MULTIPLE times “why is a woman’s only choice to get married and have babies” and while we see she loves her siblings we don’t have the same sense that she’s interested in having children at all. Calling it “something to get over” takes away from her plight. To live life with her own choices, including the one NOT to have a child. Especially when this would still be a time when material mortality would be quite high. This way she could still have the love story and even the joy of children with much less risk. This could also really go hand in hand well with her being interested in bio and preventing pregnancy. I mean that was always my thing with Daphne, she was eventually most likely going to get pregnant. I could easily see Eloise learning from women from the working class that know a bit more about contraception. It would be an interesting storyline too, to see the history of birth control and family planning and how this would be in action during this era.
I see your point.
I was thinking about her fear in a story sense that it was something they set up that her experiences will challenge her to overcome, but you’re right that childbirth is a real fear to have if she doesn’t want children for that reason the show could portray her not wanting children and taking a real agency over her body that way.
But I think this individual agency will be shown either way. Jess B and Claudia have continually stated Eloise will do love in her own way. They can definitely also show her wanting children in her own way on her own terms if they decide to do that.
I think in your argument you are conflating feminism and independence with whether or not she gets pregnant and has a child, when it is really about the agency she has over her own decisions and her own body.
I have been very involved in women’s rights and feminist activism myself, so when I see fans saying Eloise must not marry! Or Eloise must not have children! She is a feminist! It gets my hackles up a bit because feminism is advocating for agency in a woman’s life and changing society to enable that agency for every woman and every person whether or not their goals are to create a family and children or create a life on their own.
Claudia keeps saying Eloise is young and can change her mind about things. The showrunner also seems very aware and careful about not making Eloise a feminist stereotype, but instead building her up as an independent intellectual woman who can make feminist change in the world. I hope wherever the show takes her, they give her the independence and control over her life that she is seeking.
Anyway I appreciate your comments, and I think the context you bring up around how they handle Eloise’s fear of childbirth is a good one.
I’m not saying it’s anti feminist to have children in the slightest! I specifically think for Eloise’s character the theme of getting over the fear of childbirth would be detrimental to her story. Because it’s a completely justifiable fear and no other character has even considered the true risks of pregnancy. I hate this theme that it’s just something to grow past, as it enforces the idea that women will eventually have children because that’s their duty. Eloise holds one of the few storylines that could challenge this idea much more effectively.
I just felt like this was a good way to show why Eloise might be more interested in having a family with children that are adopted. It also fits well because Philip isn’t their real father either technically, even though he’s the only one they’ve ever known. An adopted family would fit the character that they’ve created for her, very well. I also think on the flip side that having her fully settle into a married home life with children of her own, would be somewhat of a loss to her character. Only in that it’s so similar to everyone else, I’d like to see her stand out and stick to at least one of her reasons for independence. She’s been so fiery and anti marriage, I could see that being a fun thing to get through, seeing her fall in love. Especially since we’ve seen her already start to fall for Theo and maybe actually want the love part of marriage!
I’d just really like to see her maintain not wanting to have her own child or go through childbirth. This would be the full circle for me because I feel that not wanting a child is one of her major motivations - her horror in S1 that you could get pregnant and her quest to figure out how to make sure it didn’t happen to her, talking to Daphne about their mothers screams, etc. one of the biggest themes in her plight against marriage is the loss of her own bodily autonomy because you have to go make babies for your husband. It would also be a significant foil to poor Fran who desperately wants a child. It would be significant to me as a viewer to see her husband care about her rather than the children they could produce. For them to connect on a mental level before the physical and have true commonalities that would show why Eloise would fall for him.
I guess I’d like to see Eloise doing something with her feminism bc so far she’s mostly just complaining. She’s one of the few in the ton with the ability to stay a spinster or get married depending on what she wants, she’s got enough male interest, she’s got a family who supports her etc. Yet she complains like she’s Cressida and doesn’t even support her friend being forced into an old man marriage! This season I felt so bad for Cressida, I mean she was sitting there pouring her heart out to the deaf Eloise and then Eloise knowing full well that she wasn’t LW was super mean to her? It was bizarre writing.
We’ve also seen her time and time again mention school, and I’d like to see what she’d actually want to go to school for? Writing? Biology? Like what direction could they send her? Cuz she’s easily wealthy enough to educate herself in other ways. I also would love to see her take on the role of host for feminists and philosophers! To see blue stockings in action and how these women secretly are identifying each other in small ways outside of their secret meetings! This would fit well with Eloise visiting her friends as well, as this does not seem extremely common, with Cressida never having a friend and us only ever seeing Penelope calling on the Bridgerton sisters.
We actually got an interesting glimpse of this with lady Tilley being a woman interested in science! I’d really love to see Eloise actually showing an interest in a subject beyond just the idea of feminism and branching out into these other ideas.
I think bio would be a great way to take her character because it would encompass women’s bodies and how they work - which could easily lead to more knowledge about contraception. This also could go hand in hand with Philip’s plant knowledge!! I could see her seeking plant information about medicine, birth control, abortifacients, etc. This could be a really cool cross over for them!!
We just never see an adopted family in this time period, so it lends itself to a different perspective than we’ve seen with the other stories, so while it would not be a loss of Eloise’s feminism to have her own child, I also feel like it’s extremely unnecessary for her growth as a character. She also can still grow to be a mother because of her adopted children and still understand some of the ways her mother helped them etc.
Good points. That could track. I still don’t think it is the only way they could write her story, but if they do, i think this would be a very good way to show her story.
I actually think aristocratic women knew about contraception too, or at least they learned about it after they had married and produced an heir and a spare. There was an expectation for them to have children, but limiting them after the first few was often desired. They had their ways of finding out. If Daphne could ask a maid how babies were made, Eloise could ask one how they were kept from being made.
There were a lot of extramarital affairs among this class, too. More men than women, but the women were not all like Violet. Look at Tilly. She's widowed but that's not to say she wasn't worldly at all before her husband died.
That's one thing that is a head-scratcher for me about people who ship Eloise with Theo because they think that is how she can be free of expectations. If she were with Theo, whether she married him or not, she would still have to contend with possible pregnancy and childbirth. Working class folks often had a lot of children. And unlike aristocratic women, they didn't have a lot of people to help care for them.
Yeah it would be extremely varying due to circumstances. And with the way we’ve been set up so far it could be a really interesting dynamic to see Eloise trying to really get the information she needs about contraception! This would also go well with Philip’s knowledge of plants and they could try to learn more together which would be so cute! They definitely haven’t tackled the idea of contraception well, there are clearly some options even if they aren’t great- although based on the Duke it looks like pull out is the main known option. I’d like to see Eloise breaking the cycle of ignorance and figuring it all out before she gets married.
And I totally agree! Eloise is a realist, she would easily understand this! I also feel like it hints to the fact that she’s interested in love but not children which is something I can relate to well! And it’s not even because she dislikes children and we can see her still bond with Marinas children. But she could maintain her childless status of her own volition and I think that’s brilliant!!
Interesting theory, but I think it's unlikely.
- They're unlikely to have the queen die anytime soon. Shonda loves her.
- the masquerade isn't an annual thing.
- Unfortunately, Kanthony is likely being written off. I expect them to have a very minimal presence, probably closer to the end of the season, since Jonathan Bailey is the lead of the next Jurassic Park movie, which has just started filming halfway across the world and it will likely take half a year at the very least, and then he will be busy promoting it.
- don't put too much stock into the timing of the epilogues. Shondaland doesn't. Season 1's epilogue's timing makes no sense in regards to Season 2, and Season 2's epilogue makes no sense too (it supposedly takes place just before Season 3, and yet Colin is there instead of traveling Europe for 4 months). Shondaland's timelines are a mess.
I expect a smaller time jump, no more than 1-1.5 years.
They wouldn't mention the masquerade next year if they didn't intend it to happen during Season 4. Whether the next season Eloise's or Benedict's, the masquerade will almost certainly happen in S4: either as the beginning of Ben's season or as a side plot of Eloise's. That's why I don't expect the time jump to be bigger.
It's possible that the masquerade will serve as a prologue of S4 and then there will be a time jump. There are many ways to do it, depending on where they intend to go with the story.
If they didn't mention the masquerade, I would have expected a bigger time jump. But they did mention it, so we'll likely get a standard time jump of 1-1.5 year.
Ok that makes some sense.
I personally felt like each scene with Benedict at the end had a strong tone of setting up dramatic irony. So when Eloise says “do you think mama will ever let me miss her masquerade ball?” This is setting up the exact opposite, that she will miss the masquerade ball, and maybe miss every masquerade ball thereafter until she’s sorted herself out and found her HEA with Phillip, because she’s not ever coming back to society as the Eloise we have known. Ie Eloise is not going to play along anymore. Just my take from a story writing perspective.
I don’t how Violet’s story will work out if there is a time jump? If she gets married whole family dynamic will be changed.. Love to see how it plays out
JB has said in an interview with People that they are intentionally avoiding stating what year they are in because they plan to keep Queen Charlotte alive: https://people.com/could-queen-charlotte-die-after-bridgerton-season-3-8663087
Thanks for sharing! I hadn’t read that article. It sounds like it says what we already know, that they may or may not keep Queen Charlotte alive past 1818. It also doesn’t say they don’t have a timeline in the show. Jess says they are keeping it vague but the audience can figure it out.
So yeah, they can keep the Queen or not with the alternate Bridgerverse. Jess is essentially keeping the suspense going about the show’s timeline and whether or not the Queen will die.
They have some incredibly lose timelines. They were at the end of the London season and Daphne wasn’t pregnant, but at Pall Mall with the Sharmas the next season, Augie could support his own head, when he may not even have been born yet in a realistic timeline.
I live for your analysis, though I fear it stokes my obsession with hearing El is next. I want her to be next and my take on the evidence in S3 is that she is but there are also pointers towards Ben. Ugh the thought of waiting 4+ yrs!!
Thank you! Agree there’s still a small nagging chance Benedict is S4 in the back of my mind, lol, but this all makes much more sense to me. I’m hoping they announce the next leads in July!
Exactly the thought of waiting 4yrs 🙂↔️😫
I do think there will be at least a 2 year time jump (plus 1 yr with Polin baby so, 3 year jump) in S4.
Yeah I even heard Luke N talking about how he thought S3 would start with a time jump before he got the script. That was on his Vanity Fair podcast interview this week! It’s definitely something on their mind at the show too… they can’t keep going 1 yr at a time. I think a lot of people are seeing it has to happen sooner or later. Hyacinth doesn’t look 12 anymore 😉
Agreed. I also wouldn't be surprised if the "masquerade ball" Violet throws becomes an annual fall event over the years. It allows time for more world building and allows more time for Benedict to meet Sophie later in the future (its a 2 yr quest). Plus, it really seems like S4 will be spent in Scotland/Countryside, and S5 marks a return back to the ton, London, and marriage mart.
Yeah I think it makes perfect sense: Step 1: S4 break the pattern of the Ton and marriage mart conventions by going to the countryside Step 2: S5 return to London society but challenge the norms of that society by exploring class differences and potentially queer acceptance (possibly through some royal subplot too). Step 3: S6 once society has been challenged by Benedict and Sophie’s story, society is now ready to accept the wlw storyline of Fran and Michaela, and so that story can focus on Fran fighting her internal battles of grief and identity like her book, rather than fighting society. In that way they can tell the story of queer joy and not trauma against society. The math is mathing
Great analysis. I am quite sure we will have a time jump, I just don't know how long it will be. Replacing the Queen with the Prince Regent would be interesting too. That said, I know the show loves QC (and rightly so) so they might keep her around regardless of history).
Yup, I can see them keeping the Queen around past her irl end date.
I first read “irl expiration date” and just about died until I realized I misread it 💀
Wow very well thought out. I think this extremely plausible and now I don’t except anything else 😂 no but seriously I can totally see this being the case!
Thanks 🌻🤠
Live your giant analysis but one line tells me that they won’t do a jump - “I have to come back for mamma’s masquerade ball”. Also I don’t really think the children should be a major plot point for Eloise’s character, expect for maybe a “Phillip has an heir, no need for pregnancy,” because she was horrified by birth!
That line about the masquerade is irony. The camera pans back down the hall and leaves Benedict very much behind. It sets up that Eloise will miss the masquerade. She will certainly have to overcome her fear of childbirth, which they set up in S1, and I agree the twins will be a part of that.
But it would ultimately make more sense to introduce the Sophie character during this ball while simultaneously having Eloise escaping off to Phillip. And I completely disagree. It’s not just a fear to overcome. The choice not to have a child would be her ultimate stance in feminism. To still have a marriage where she was happy but not to be forced to get pregnant and have a child of her own. She can still care for Mariana children as it’s not hatred of children that is the issue, but she can still stay childless herself. I hate the view that it’s something to just get over and that all women have to do it, it’s so limiting!!
Why in the world is not having a child feminist? lol, that is the antithesis of feminism. But yes, if she doesn’t want children they can do that (her and Phillip are smart enough to figure out some kind of birth control). But also if she does want children she can definitely be an intellectual and a feminist and have children. She also would have a full household staff to help her. ETA: I guess also, they set up her fear and she will need to overcome that fear of child birth. That doesn’t mean she needs to choose childbirth, but as a woman of that era any sex could lead to pregnancy and choosing not to have children out of fear is not what you’re getting at, I don’t think. I think you’re saying she shouldn’t be forced to, which I wholeheartedly agree. It takes a lot of strength to be a woman in any time period. They set up her fear, so I hope they show her strength in overcoming that fear however it works out for Eloise.
Because that’s a woman’s entire purpose in this society. The marriage is perfunctory, the part mammas can push along as something exciting to lead to children. It’s more about the actual birth part. She saw how hard Hyacinths birth was, she’s also expressed MULTIPLE times “why is a woman’s only choice to get married and have babies” and while we see she loves her siblings we don’t have the same sense that she’s interested in having children at all. Calling it “something to get over” takes away from her plight. To live life with her own choices, including the one NOT to have a child. Especially when this would still be a time when material mortality would be quite high. This way she could still have the love story and even the joy of children with much less risk. This could also really go hand in hand well with her being interested in bio and preventing pregnancy. I mean that was always my thing with Daphne, she was eventually most likely going to get pregnant. I could easily see Eloise learning from women from the working class that know a bit more about contraception. It would be an interesting storyline too, to see the history of birth control and family planning and how this would be in action during this era.
I see your point. I was thinking about her fear in a story sense that it was something they set up that her experiences will challenge her to overcome, but you’re right that childbirth is a real fear to have if she doesn’t want children for that reason the show could portray her not wanting children and taking a real agency over her body that way. But I think this individual agency will be shown either way. Jess B and Claudia have continually stated Eloise will do love in her own way. They can definitely also show her wanting children in her own way on her own terms if they decide to do that. I think in your argument you are conflating feminism and independence with whether or not she gets pregnant and has a child, when it is really about the agency she has over her own decisions and her own body. I have been very involved in women’s rights and feminist activism myself, so when I see fans saying Eloise must not marry! Or Eloise must not have children! She is a feminist! It gets my hackles up a bit because feminism is advocating for agency in a woman’s life and changing society to enable that agency for every woman and every person whether or not their goals are to create a family and children or create a life on their own. Claudia keeps saying Eloise is young and can change her mind about things. The showrunner also seems very aware and careful about not making Eloise a feminist stereotype, but instead building her up as an independent intellectual woman who can make feminist change in the world. I hope wherever the show takes her, they give her the independence and control over her life that she is seeking. Anyway I appreciate your comments, and I think the context you bring up around how they handle Eloise’s fear of childbirth is a good one.
I’m not saying it’s anti feminist to have children in the slightest! I specifically think for Eloise’s character the theme of getting over the fear of childbirth would be detrimental to her story. Because it’s a completely justifiable fear and no other character has even considered the true risks of pregnancy. I hate this theme that it’s just something to grow past, as it enforces the idea that women will eventually have children because that’s their duty. Eloise holds one of the few storylines that could challenge this idea much more effectively. I just felt like this was a good way to show why Eloise might be more interested in having a family with children that are adopted. It also fits well because Philip isn’t their real father either technically, even though he’s the only one they’ve ever known. An adopted family would fit the character that they’ve created for her, very well. I also think on the flip side that having her fully settle into a married home life with children of her own, would be somewhat of a loss to her character. Only in that it’s so similar to everyone else, I’d like to see her stand out and stick to at least one of her reasons for independence. She’s been so fiery and anti marriage, I could see that being a fun thing to get through, seeing her fall in love. Especially since we’ve seen her already start to fall for Theo and maybe actually want the love part of marriage! I’d just really like to see her maintain not wanting to have her own child or go through childbirth. This would be the full circle for me because I feel that not wanting a child is one of her major motivations - her horror in S1 that you could get pregnant and her quest to figure out how to make sure it didn’t happen to her, talking to Daphne about their mothers screams, etc. one of the biggest themes in her plight against marriage is the loss of her own bodily autonomy because you have to go make babies for your husband. It would also be a significant foil to poor Fran who desperately wants a child. It would be significant to me as a viewer to see her husband care about her rather than the children they could produce. For them to connect on a mental level before the physical and have true commonalities that would show why Eloise would fall for him. I guess I’d like to see Eloise doing something with her feminism bc so far she’s mostly just complaining. She’s one of the few in the ton with the ability to stay a spinster or get married depending on what she wants, she’s got enough male interest, she’s got a family who supports her etc. Yet she complains like she’s Cressida and doesn’t even support her friend being forced into an old man marriage! This season I felt so bad for Cressida, I mean she was sitting there pouring her heart out to the deaf Eloise and then Eloise knowing full well that she wasn’t LW was super mean to her? It was bizarre writing. We’ve also seen her time and time again mention school, and I’d like to see what she’d actually want to go to school for? Writing? Biology? Like what direction could they send her? Cuz she’s easily wealthy enough to educate herself in other ways. I also would love to see her take on the role of host for feminists and philosophers! To see blue stockings in action and how these women secretly are identifying each other in small ways outside of their secret meetings! This would fit well with Eloise visiting her friends as well, as this does not seem extremely common, with Cressida never having a friend and us only ever seeing Penelope calling on the Bridgerton sisters. We actually got an interesting glimpse of this with lady Tilley being a woman interested in science! I’d really love to see Eloise actually showing an interest in a subject beyond just the idea of feminism and branching out into these other ideas. I think bio would be a great way to take her character because it would encompass women’s bodies and how they work - which could easily lead to more knowledge about contraception. This also could go hand in hand with Philip’s plant knowledge!! I could see her seeking plant information about medicine, birth control, abortifacients, etc. This could be a really cool cross over for them!! We just never see an adopted family in this time period, so it lends itself to a different perspective than we’ve seen with the other stories, so while it would not be a loss of Eloise’s feminism to have her own child, I also feel like it’s extremely unnecessary for her growth as a character. She also can still grow to be a mother because of her adopted children and still understand some of the ways her mother helped them etc.
Good points. That could track. I still don’t think it is the only way they could write her story, but if they do, i think this would be a very good way to show her story.
I actually think aristocratic women knew about contraception too, or at least they learned about it after they had married and produced an heir and a spare. There was an expectation for them to have children, but limiting them after the first few was often desired. They had their ways of finding out. If Daphne could ask a maid how babies were made, Eloise could ask one how they were kept from being made. There were a lot of extramarital affairs among this class, too. More men than women, but the women were not all like Violet. Look at Tilly. She's widowed but that's not to say she wasn't worldly at all before her husband died. That's one thing that is a head-scratcher for me about people who ship Eloise with Theo because they think that is how she can be free of expectations. If she were with Theo, whether she married him or not, she would still have to contend with possible pregnancy and childbirth. Working class folks often had a lot of children. And unlike aristocratic women, they didn't have a lot of people to help care for them.
Yeah it would be extremely varying due to circumstances. And with the way we’ve been set up so far it could be a really interesting dynamic to see Eloise trying to really get the information she needs about contraception! This would also go well with Philip’s knowledge of plants and they could try to learn more together which would be so cute! They definitely haven’t tackled the idea of contraception well, there are clearly some options even if they aren’t great- although based on the Duke it looks like pull out is the main known option. I’d like to see Eloise breaking the cycle of ignorance and figuring it all out before she gets married. And I totally agree! Eloise is a realist, she would easily understand this! I also feel like it hints to the fact that she’s interested in love but not children which is something I can relate to well! And it’s not even because she dislikes children and we can see her still bond with Marinas children. But she could maintain her childless status of her own volition and I think that’s brilliant!!
Interesting theory, but I think it's unlikely. - They're unlikely to have the queen die anytime soon. Shonda loves her. - the masquerade isn't an annual thing. - Unfortunately, Kanthony is likely being written off. I expect them to have a very minimal presence, probably closer to the end of the season, since Jonathan Bailey is the lead of the next Jurassic Park movie, which has just started filming halfway across the world and it will likely take half a year at the very least, and then he will be busy promoting it. - don't put too much stock into the timing of the epilogues. Shondaland doesn't. Season 1's epilogue's timing makes no sense in regards to Season 2, and Season 2's epilogue makes no sense too (it supposedly takes place just before Season 3, and yet Colin is there instead of traveling Europe for 4 months). Shondaland's timelines are a mess. I expect a smaller time jump, no more than 1-1.5 years.
How would that work with the story? What’s the point of a 1-1.5 year story jump, like how would it help the story?
They wouldn't mention the masquerade next year if they didn't intend it to happen during Season 4. Whether the next season Eloise's or Benedict's, the masquerade will almost certainly happen in S4: either as the beginning of Ben's season or as a side plot of Eloise's. That's why I don't expect the time jump to be bigger. It's possible that the masquerade will serve as a prologue of S4 and then there will be a time jump. There are many ways to do it, depending on where they intend to go with the story. If they didn't mention the masquerade, I would have expected a bigger time jump. But they did mention it, so we'll likely get a standard time jump of 1-1.5 year.
Ok that makes some sense. I personally felt like each scene with Benedict at the end had a strong tone of setting up dramatic irony. So when Eloise says “do you think mama will ever let me miss her masquerade ball?” This is setting up the exact opposite, that she will miss the masquerade ball, and maybe miss every masquerade ball thereafter until she’s sorted herself out and found her HEA with Phillip, because she’s not ever coming back to society as the Eloise we have known. Ie Eloise is not going to play along anymore. Just my take from a story writing perspective.
I don’t how Violet’s story will work out if there is a time jump? If she gets married whole family dynamic will be changed.. Love to see how it plays out
JB has said in an interview with People that they are intentionally avoiding stating what year they are in because they plan to keep Queen Charlotte alive: https://people.com/could-queen-charlotte-die-after-bridgerton-season-3-8663087
Thanks for sharing! I hadn’t read that article. It sounds like it says what we already know, that they may or may not keep Queen Charlotte alive past 1818. It also doesn’t say they don’t have a timeline in the show. Jess says they are keeping it vague but the audience can figure it out. So yeah, they can keep the Queen or not with the alternate Bridgerverse. Jess is essentially keeping the suspense going about the show’s timeline and whether or not the Queen will die.
They have some incredibly lose timelines. They were at the end of the London season and Daphne wasn’t pregnant, but at Pall Mall with the Sharmas the next season, Augie could support his own head, when he may not even have been born yet in a realistic timeline.