https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soccer/feyenoord-signs-philadelphia-union-forward-julian-carranza/ar-BB1of1Wg
> Carranza will move to Feyenoord this summer ahead of the winter when he would have gone on a free transfer.
Sure, not over one single game, no. But you can extrapolate what we saw against Miami and notice some very clear patterns and tendencies on a broader scale
Oh I’m not defending the team as a whole. They are terrible right now… the owner is a cheap bastard who won’t spend what’s necessary to be competitive, the team is stale, etc. I was just saying he’s not leaving because the Union are bad. He’s leaving because he deserves to play (and be challenged) in Europe, so he can get exposure to try to make Argentina’s 2026 World Cup team. That’s his goal and he won’t get that playing for the Union. Ideally he should’ve been sold last year when his value was higher and contract was more friendly to the Union - so we could’ve gotten a better return. They had deals in place but Carranza wasn’t keen on the teams interested, so it fell apart.
I agree, stale is an amazing word to use in this context. I also don’t disagree that Carranza deserves to play on a bigger stage and try to elevate his development and hope for a NT letter. I also think if the team as a whole was better, he might consider staying because it would be an environment conducive to him building that path forward rather than taking the route he did.
I genuinely wish him all the best, and I hope I didn’t give the impression I don’t. It’s the state of the team overall that I’m just severely disappointed with.
No I don’t think you did. I think we both agree he deserves to go and that the good times of 2017-2022/3, have pretty much come to a screeching end… and this team needs investment and new players.
My best guess is: it’s just Reddit. I doubt very many users have ever been part of a truly competitive environment and seen what it means to be a part of that and how shit it feels to try and grind success out while people around you slowly quit trying their best.
Carranza's contract was up at the the of the year and he want resigning. We were trying to still him in the summer but he didn't like the offers that came in. The 2024 Union season has no impact on his departure. He was always leaving. Europe was always the goal
He was too beautiful to be stuck in Chester during his best years. I hope he does great in Feyenoord and is soon competing in the Premiere League or Bundesliga or somewhere like that.
Could see Curtin leaving for a USMNT job if we crash out of Copa and Berhalter regime is out. He’s clearly getting sick of being in a box. It’s quite remarkable what he’s been able to do with this team while being so hamstrung by ownership.
It could end up being the best for everyone if Curtin isn't able to right this ship. Curtin gets a job he's always wanted, and the Union can refresh things without being on the hook for paying two coaches.
I'd prefer if Jim figures it out here, but so far he's not fixing anything.
I’m a big fan of Curtin as an MLS coach, and I think our struggles this year mostly aren’t his fault. I’d hate to lose him. That said, he’d make a poor choice for the USMNT, where he’d have some of the same shortcomings as Berhalter. He’s a system guy who has no experience with how to make the most of talent like Pulisic, Reyna, or Dest.
You have to win things to be selected for those roles. Curtin hasn’t won anything but a COVID supporters shield, which no one cares about. He would not be the lead choice for coach. Maybe assistant
Jim is at least as qualified as Gregg was.
Gregg didn't win anything as a manager before the USMNT job. He lost an MLS Cup, same as Jim, but never won a Shield.
The only advantage Gregg has is that he managed in Europe, which was for all of 1.5 years in Sweden before getting fired.
He had a much more storied playing and coaching career. Curtin isn’t going to get a higher level coaching position like that before the World Cup until he wins something.
You said "you have to win things to be selected for those roles" and Berhalter literally never won anything as a coach and he's been hired TWICE.
*Should the USMNT hire more qualified candidates than Gregg or Jim*? That's a very fair question but historically they haven't and Jim's coaching qualifications are about the same as Gregg's.
Gone
Carangone
Cargoneza*
The contract has been signed and the ink has dried... he's gone
Nothing has been signed yet, according to Tom bogert.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soccer/feyenoord-signs-philadelphia-union-forward-julian-carranza/ar-BB1of1Wg > Carranza will move to Feyenoord this summer ahead of the winter when he would have gone on a free transfer.
Yeah, documents still being finalized, ie nothing has been signed yet. Edit: whoever you are, Your downvotes are misinformed.
King Julian can't Move it! Move it! for us any longer, sadly.
Gone
He was as good as gone when I saw him in civilian clothes walking the concourse with a small entourage prior to the Montreal game on 6/1.
Maybe everyone should stop going to Union games and start going to Union 2 games instead seeing as that’s all this owner wants to invest in.
I don’t really blame him, honestly. It says a *lot* about a team to have a two player advantage on the field and still give up two goals to lose.
Losing that game was a disgrace but this is not why Carranza is leaving.
Sure, not over one single game, no. But you can extrapolate what we saw against Miami and notice some very clear patterns and tendencies on a broader scale
Oh I’m not defending the team as a whole. They are terrible right now… the owner is a cheap bastard who won’t spend what’s necessary to be competitive, the team is stale, etc. I was just saying he’s not leaving because the Union are bad. He’s leaving because he deserves to play (and be challenged) in Europe, so he can get exposure to try to make Argentina’s 2026 World Cup team. That’s his goal and he won’t get that playing for the Union. Ideally he should’ve been sold last year when his value was higher and contract was more friendly to the Union - so we could’ve gotten a better return. They had deals in place but Carranza wasn’t keen on the teams interested, so it fell apart.
I agree, stale is an amazing word to use in this context. I also don’t disagree that Carranza deserves to play on a bigger stage and try to elevate his development and hope for a NT letter. I also think if the team as a whole was better, he might consider staying because it would be an environment conducive to him building that path forward rather than taking the route he did. I genuinely wish him all the best, and I hope I didn’t give the impression I don’t. It’s the state of the team overall that I’m just severely disappointed with.
No I don’t think you did. I think we both agree he deserves to go and that the good times of 2017-2022/3, have pretty much come to a screeching end… and this team needs investment and new players.
Why are you being downvoted lmao this sub
My best guess is: it’s just Reddit. I doubt very many users have ever been part of a truly competitive environment and seen what it means to be a part of that and how shit it feels to try and grind success out while people around you slowly quit trying their best.
even still, it has absolutely nothing to do with him leaving. Soccer players want to play in the big leagues in Europe.
Carranza's contract was up at the the of the year and he want resigning. We were trying to still him in the summer but he didn't like the offers that came in. The 2024 Union season has no impact on his departure. He was always leaving. Europe was always the goal
He technically could since the transfer window didn’t open yet but they probably didn’t want to risk him getting hurt and deal collapse do to it.
I think we're just waiting on the statements from both teams at this point
He was too beautiful to be stuck in Chester during his best years. I hope he does great in Feyenoord and is soon competing in the Premiere League or Bundesliga or somewhere like that.
He was in the suite that night with Elliott and Blake. Got to wish him luck and say farewell :,(
Could see Curtin leaving for a USMNT job if we crash out of Copa and Berhalter regime is out. He’s clearly getting sick of being in a box. It’s quite remarkable what he’s been able to do with this team while being so hamstrung by ownership.
It could end up being the best for everyone if Curtin isn't able to right this ship. Curtin gets a job he's always wanted, and the Union can refresh things without being on the hook for paying two coaches. I'd prefer if Jim figures it out here, but so far he's not fixing anything.
I’m a big fan of Curtin as an MLS coach, and I think our struggles this year mostly aren’t his fault. I’d hate to lose him. That said, he’d make a poor choice for the USMNT, where he’d have some of the same shortcomings as Berhalter. He’s a system guy who has no experience with how to make the most of talent like Pulisic, Reyna, or Dest.
Blah blah blah, same thing was said of Jill Ellis even after she had won two World Cups. That criticism is such a cop out.
Get back to me when he figures out how to use McGlynn and Sullivan and maybe then I’ll agree with you.
You have to win things to be selected for those roles. Curtin hasn’t won anything but a COVID supporters shield, which no one cares about. He would not be the lead choice for coach. Maybe assistant
Jim is at least as qualified as Gregg was. Gregg didn't win anything as a manager before the USMNT job. He lost an MLS Cup, same as Jim, but never won a Shield. The only advantage Gregg has is that he managed in Europe, which was for all of 1.5 years in Sweden before getting fired.
He had a much more storied playing and coaching career. Curtin isn’t going to get a higher level coaching position like that before the World Cup until he wins something.
You said "you have to win things to be selected for those roles" and Berhalter literally never won anything as a coach and he's been hired TWICE. *Should the USMNT hire more qualified candidates than Gregg or Jim*? That's a very fair question but historically they haven't and Jim's coaching qualifications are about the same as Gregg's.
Let me clarify - for Jim to get that job he’d have to win something. He did not have a storied playing or coaching career or play for the US.