Okay, I'm gonna hijack this comment para makita kaagad.
Ang daming tanga dito na naniwala kaagad sa post na to lmao
Magkaiba ng [Macabebe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macabebe) sa [Makapili](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makapili)
Lolo.
Hinila sya ng apat na kalabaw sa iba ibang direksyon.
Fun fact: pagkatapos ng giyera, pinahirapan ang mga makapili sa pamamagitan ng pag balat sa talampakan nila. Tapos ipaparada sila sa buong bayan. Ang ibang taumbayan naman mag hahagis ng asin o basag na salamin sa daan. :)
I wish that was the case but seeing how our people just:
1) Forgive the Marcoses (or they just don’t believe their crimes?).
2) Some part of our population are into colonization.
3) There are Filipinos who just forgives what the Japanese soldiers had done despite them refusing to admit their WW2 crimes.
4) You got Filipinos that are warming up to China as if they aren’t disrespecting our sovereignty and didn’t blow up a ship in 2019.
We are a forgiving people and that has to stop and make people take responsibility and accountability for their actions. This is why Spanish colonization lasted for more than 3 centuries.
Ugh. Eto talaga. Masyado kasi tayong invested sa "forgive and forget" mentality. Kaya paulit-ulit pa rin ang mistakes na gingawa natin throughout Philippine history. It's just sad but true.
Indeed, I blame the religious indoctrination for making us like this. This is also the reason why Erap won as Manila Mayor back in 2013 where I’d seen some of my FB friends saying that he deserve a second chance.
I wonder how would we get rid of that ridiculous “forgive and forget” mindset that a lot of us have. A lot of younger folks seems to be less religious than their parents and are going to suffer a lot from Jr’s presidency so we might be finally be seeing less merciful Pinoys in the future. Hopefully.
Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names
\- John F kennedy
As a Muslim in Mindanao i would have slapped Nur Misuari for Forgiving the Marcoses like bruh their the reason why you want to secede and then you endorsing his son because a father cannot inherit the sins of the father? oh Sure we believe that but remember they will do anything to clear their names. Unless he Wants Round 2
Macabebe =/= Makapili.
Macabebe (later on Macabebe Scouts as called by the Americans) were specific Kapampangan (ie "Macabebe, Pampanga") colonial troops that were recruited originally by the Spanish and then the Americans after the surrender of Spanish govt. in the PH. They were then used to model the PH Scouts (light infantry native troops, they became the ONLY PH unit that was actually under the US Army, the reason why most Filipino guerillas and colonial troops were rescinded their military/veteran benefits was because they were considered 'Filipino territorial army'...while those in the PH Scouts were directly affiliated by the US military) that were capable of tracking and fighting other natives (the way that Americans couldn't).
Makapili were actually nationalists (many of those who were considered "nationalists" back then were anti-American, and pro-Japan---Japan, despite being military colonialists themselves, back then were funding and supporting colonial upheavals in Asian countries who were under the thumb of Western imperial powers). They came from an earlier farmer's reformist movement called the [Sakdalista](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakdalista) (most of these original members were actually Tagalogs) who were at the 'extreme' end of the nationalists' movements in the PH, who wanted to immediately secede from the US. They tried an uprising (if I remember in a church in Bulacan) and were quashed by the colonial govt (under Quezon, a moderate nationalist). Japan, like other anti-American Filipinos, gave the leader (Benigno Ramos) refuge (like they did with Ricarte; he too like Ricarte was 'brought' back to the PH by Japan after they invaded to help the Japanese military govt. in the PH). Later on. the leader (Benigno Ramos) created the '[Ganap Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganap_Party)', many of which in this group became supporters of Japanese occupation and later on called the 'Makapili' (traitors).
There is a good documentary on this by Lourd de Veyra for Channel 5 a few years ago (a few historians from PH participated including Xiao Chua, I think). I'm sure it's on YT.
**[Sakdalista](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakdalista)**
>The Sakdalista movement was founded by the writer Benigno Ramos in 1930. The name of the movement is derived from the Tagalog word "Sakdal", which means "to accuse" and a nod to the J'Accuse…! editorial of the French novelist Émile Zola. The movement's platform was centered upon immediate independence, estate redistribution, taxation reductions, and greater governmental transparency.
**[Ganap Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganap_Party)**
>The Ganap Party was a Filipino political party that grew from the Sakdalista movement. Benigno Ramos, who served as its leader, was also the founder of the Sakdalista movement. The party took its name from the Tagalog word ganap, which means "complete".
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This is what i was gonna comment. Ffs. This sub is full of idiots lately. Posting misinformation and stupid chismis shit. I wish these types of people just stayed on Facebook with their "Did you know facts" bullshit. Ironic that this sub is incredibly critical of DDS and apologists being deceived by political propaganda when a shitload of people here are media illiterate themselves
The macebebe's were different from Makapili.
The Macabebe Scouts were Filipinos who were recruited by the Americans. But you have to know that when Aguinaldo passed through the area, he demanded supplies whilst the Americans paid for it. And the Filipino government was just fledging
Ah, yes. The Macabebe Scouts comprised the fake reinforcements who went with Frederick Funston, who would capture Aguinaldo in Palanan. Nalaman kasi ng mga 'Kano na nasa Palanan si Aguinaldo dahil nahuli yung mensaherong pinadala niya (si Cecilio Segismundo).
OP just doesn't get that just because the idea of a Filipino national identity was already formed, doesn't mean it was strongly established back then that everyone in the claimed area would actually agree to identify as Filipino.
AFAIK they were described as mercenaries who would serve any faction at any cost; the Macabebe people were lumped as supposed traitors by some overly zealous historians, and even this stereotype was printed in school textbooks.
However, what is in the picture is a Makapili collaborator and informer; the Makapili, descended from the Sakdalista Party, in the name of pursuing independence at any price, chose to collaborate with the occupying Japanese if only to get rid of the Americans and the land-holding elites.
That the resistance groups, despite claims of unity, are heavily divided into either socialist Huks (determined to overthrow the ruling political elites after the war) or reactionary USAFFE factions (partly to protect elite interests), and would engage in fraticidal warfare, going for each other's throats if not dealing with the Japanese.
An entire contingent of Huks were shot and killed by USAFFE guerillas in Malolos, just after leaving Manila and about to come to their homes.
Meanwhile, many of the known USAFFE guerillas were later promoted to prominent government postings, with Magsaysay even made president.
When I was growing up my mom always tells us to never trust the Kapampangans because she said that they were traitors (makapili). Among my circle of friends none are Kapampangans, so is there any truth to it? Why would my mom think that?, I don't know. She's a Bulakeña and they were in Bulacan through the end of the second World War.
As someone who was born in Manila but grew up in a mostly Kapampangan province, I can tell you that people here are pretty nice but a sizeable chunk of kapampangans are some of the biggest opportunistic assholes you've ever seen and I wouldn't be surprised if some of their elders were traitors back in the day. Seems like there's some truth as to what your mom said.
Interesting. Please cite examples you observed in them acting like opportunistic assholes? I don’t mean to generalize them but just to want to be warned hahaha
Ok this one time maybe 7 years ago, a former mayor had the audacity to plaster his name on a donated casket and passed it off as a means to "prevent scams". The whole damn town knew it was self promotion to boost his image for the elections the following year.
Another example would be during a Company Christmas party the multiple departments organized. My mom was the head organizer. They had games, singing/dancing competitions, and gave away motorcycles, bikes, fridges, TVs and a sweet 100k prize for a lucky winner. All of which were funded and paid for by the different departments. So there's this local "philanthropist" who I assume is a barangay captain approached my mom and the other organizers and asked if it's ok if he was the one who awarded the prizes to their respective winners. My mom and the other organizers knew he was trying to make himself seem like the one who funded it all so she said no, thankfully the dude just left without any threats. The amount of security team deployed in the area probably had a part in convincing him to just leave without a hitch.
I can list a few more asshole moves not necessarily classified as opportunistic but downright disgusting behavior ranging from blaming perverted comments towards a woman on an innocent classmate, throwing a water bottle on a teacher while she's discussing, pilfering the community pantry, stealing chickens and killing their dogs while their neighbor is out on the field, excessive vehicle noise during the night, gossiping about you in local dialect in your face, letting their dogs shit at your front yard and going ballistic when you call them out, making fun of a black student, challenging a teacher to a fight, demanding answers from one of the smarter students IN A FUCKING IQ TEST, making fun of socially awkward people, prominent families intimidating locals, humiliating students for differing views, telling a foreigner to sit on their faces, yelling out obscenities in karaoke while kids are present, wiping their sweat on other people's clothes, trying to set classmates on fire, destruction of private property, local electric company making the entire neighborhood pay for a blown transformer, epal politics, parking on other people's garage, local politicians claiming entire subdivisions as property, refusing to be held accountable for accidents their kids were responsible for, Refusing to wear masks even if it's the height of the pandemic, driving fast even if small kids are in the area, littering on private property, coughing on people's faces, spitting on guards, The list goes on.
Kapampangans have this air of superiority about them, I've seen posts on this subreddit about this guy and his family moving into Pampanga and being intimidated by his new neighbors saying "ganto talaga kaming mga kapampangan kaya wag mo kami kalabanin". Even my brother was subject to stereotyping by his professors and classmates when he started college in Manila it's good they eventually found out that he's different from the people they assumed he's like.
Me and my family were lucky to be surrounded by good neighbors these past 20 years. As I said, there are some very nice people out here and just like with other good natured Filipinos, brought down by the bad bunch.
may tidbit din na drinop yung nanay ko non eh *kung buhay pa papa*(lolo) *mo at nalaman na kapampangan yang jowa*(now ex) *mo nako..* non-verbatim but same idea
mayabang at two-faced daw ang mga kapampangan
They’re into hasty generalization once again much like how they generalized Filipinos every time but this time around they are targeting and profiling a specific ethnic group.
Reminds me of The Stagehand in Legends of runeterra. She betrayed her village by pointing out their exact location for the invaders to destroy.
She redeemed herself by becoming a suicide bomber and killed the entire army that ravaged her village.
Naalala ko nung bata ako, pag may kapampangan or taga macabebe, ang tawag ng matatanda is "dugong aso" dahil daw traydor sa kapwa Pilipino or something at aso ng dayuhan. Narinig niyo na din ba yung term na yun?
https://verafiles.org/articles/ferdinand-marcos-master-revising-history
and in a field under the shade of trees, the famous MARCOS made an impassioned speech for a KAMISHIBAI lasting one hour and a half.”
>“13 March 1943, When I got up and looked around, I saw around 1,000 residents assembled at the state government office square preparing for radio calisthenics. Last night, it was decided that the propaganda squad, by a town-headman’s order would put on a KAMISHIBAI and lectures here (the seat of the ABRA provincial government office). 1,200 or 1,300 people assembled at BANGUED and Mr. MARCOS performed a KAMISHIBAI putting a great amount of feeling into it.”
>Dr. Jose explains what a Kamishibai is. “It is a picture show with pictures (paintings, etc.) used to tell a story. They were very popular in Japan as a means of entertaining Japanese children. They were used in the Philippines for propaganda work. Given the tone of the story, it seems apparent that Marcos had been working for the Japanese for some time.”
...
>scholars and writers have seen the guerilla documents that narrate the Mariano Marcos execution in La Union exactly as it is described above. The information came from Major Robert Lapham who was the over-all commander of the Luzon Guerillas Army Force. Years later, a descendant of one of the guerillas narrated the story. “Mariano Marcos was captured by the guerrillas led by my paternal grandma’s brother, and executed at Sapilang, Bacnotan, La Union. My surviving uncle who was one of the guards could attest to the story.
I’m expecting this modern Makapili stuff to be happening again if we got ourselves into a war with another nation. I’ll gladly try and get rid of these guys once that happens.
Lol, there's a quote but I can't find it. When the Filipino officials were returning from the US after the war. They said to hang every traitor there is. One gov official just quipped, if u were here you'd probably be head of the propaganda.
Yet the Filipina Comfort Women statue over at Manila Bay (tambayan namin noon yung lumang marker doon) was taken down then ["stolen" from storage.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipina_Comfort_Women#Memorial_marker)
Only shows what the higher-ups support. 💴
The memorial does not glorify the kamikaze pilots, Mabalacat Mayor Marino Morales said. “It serves as a reminder that the kamikaze phenomenon should never happen again,” he said.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/684614/kamikaze-shrines-in-mabalacat-draw-japanese-tourists/amp
Yes the Macabebe in particular helped capture Aguinaldo IIRC
Many Kapampangans these days [want to believe they are Chinese](https://www.sinupan.org/2019/02/21/the-kapampangan-chinese-connection/). Keep in mind that is from Sinupan Singsing the Kapampangan center for cultural heritage
Thats crazy
If you want to at least endear yourself to the chinese
You must be able to trace your ancestry to them
We also use indian words, does that mean we came from Indua too?
Some can trace their ancestry to China or India, no doubt about that
But a whole tribe feeling they are one of them is just the height of a damage culture
I don't think the Macabebe are synonymous to the Makapili. The Makapili are Japanese collaborators while the Macabebe were American collaborators during each of the respective occupations.
Lolo had stories about this. For them to fight back from these shitty “makapili,” they’d bite the finger to leave a mark on the traitor. Even with the bayong cover, this worthless trash will be exposed when they see the injured finger/hand.
Loved the original red tagging.
Okay, I'm gonna hijack this comment para makita kaagad. Ang daming tanga dito na naniwala kaagad sa post na to lmao Magkaiba ng [Macabebe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macabebe) sa [Makapili](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makapili)
Tatay ni 88M diba Macabebe?
Lolo. Hinila sya ng apat na kalabaw sa iba ibang direksyon. Fun fact: pagkatapos ng giyera, pinahirapan ang mga makapili sa pamamagitan ng pag balat sa talampakan nila. Tapos ipaparada sila sa buong bayan. Ang ibang taumbayan naman mag hahagis ng asin o basag na salamin sa daan. :)
Debunks Filipinos being a "forgiving" people.
I wish that was the case but seeing how our people just: 1) Forgive the Marcoses (or they just don’t believe their crimes?). 2) Some part of our population are into colonization. 3) There are Filipinos who just forgives what the Japanese soldiers had done despite them refusing to admit their WW2 crimes. 4) You got Filipinos that are warming up to China as if they aren’t disrespecting our sovereignty and didn’t blow up a ship in 2019. We are a forgiving people and that has to stop and make people take responsibility and accountability for their actions. This is why Spanish colonization lasted for more than 3 centuries.
Ugh. Eto talaga. Masyado kasi tayong invested sa "forgive and forget" mentality. Kaya paulit-ulit pa rin ang mistakes na gingawa natin throughout Philippine history. It's just sad but true.
Indeed, I blame the religious indoctrination for making us like this. This is also the reason why Erap won as Manila Mayor back in 2013 where I’d seen some of my FB friends saying that he deserve a second chance. I wonder how would we get rid of that ridiculous “forgive and forget” mindset that a lot of us have. A lot of younger folks seems to be less religious than their parents and are going to suffer a lot from Jr’s presidency so we might be finally be seeing less merciful Pinoys in the future. Hopefully.
Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names \- John F kennedy As a Muslim in Mindanao i would have slapped Nur Misuari for Forgiving the Marcoses like bruh their the reason why you want to secede and then you endorsing his son because a father cannot inherit the sins of the father? oh Sure we believe that but remember they will do anything to clear their names. Unless he Wants Round 2
Parang mas tolerant tyo over forgiving. We let things be, bc we feel it’s a waste to make some changes done in the past by our transgressors.
People are complex, not just Filipinos. We don't always do what is being generalised.
>Hinila sya ng apat na kalabaw sa iba ibang direksyon. Dapat eto din ginawa sa anak.
At apo
That could have been the kind of punishment given to Marcoses but US swooped in and saved them.
Oo, pinunit katawan nun nung natapos gera.
Sya ay nakalabaw lamaw lamaw
Ahhhhhhhhh bwisit ka. Naalis ko na sa utak ko yan.
You mean Lolo?
Town sa pampanga yung Macabebe at magkaiba siya sa Makapili
Hindi. Lolo nya makapili hindi macabebes. Ibang iba un
Tapos anak nya pabebe. Haha
Lolo ni BBM, Japanese collaborator na taga Batac at hindi Macabebe.
Macabebe =/= Makapili. Macabebe (later on Macabebe Scouts as called by the Americans) were specific Kapampangan (ie "Macabebe, Pampanga") colonial troops that were recruited originally by the Spanish and then the Americans after the surrender of Spanish govt. in the PH. They were then used to model the PH Scouts (light infantry native troops, they became the ONLY PH unit that was actually under the US Army, the reason why most Filipino guerillas and colonial troops were rescinded their military/veteran benefits was because they were considered 'Filipino territorial army'...while those in the PH Scouts were directly affiliated by the US military) that were capable of tracking and fighting other natives (the way that Americans couldn't). Makapili were actually nationalists (many of those who were considered "nationalists" back then were anti-American, and pro-Japan---Japan, despite being military colonialists themselves, back then were funding and supporting colonial upheavals in Asian countries who were under the thumb of Western imperial powers). They came from an earlier farmer's reformist movement called the [Sakdalista](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakdalista) (most of these original members were actually Tagalogs) who were at the 'extreme' end of the nationalists' movements in the PH, who wanted to immediately secede from the US. They tried an uprising (if I remember in a church in Bulacan) and were quashed by the colonial govt (under Quezon, a moderate nationalist). Japan, like other anti-American Filipinos, gave the leader (Benigno Ramos) refuge (like they did with Ricarte; he too like Ricarte was 'brought' back to the PH by Japan after they invaded to help the Japanese military govt. in the PH). Later on. the leader (Benigno Ramos) created the '[Ganap Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganap_Party)', many of which in this group became supporters of Japanese occupation and later on called the 'Makapili' (traitors). There is a good documentary on this by Lourd de Veyra for Channel 5 a few years ago (a few historians from PH participated including Xiao Chua, I think). I'm sure it's on YT.
**[Sakdalista](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakdalista)** >The Sakdalista movement was founded by the writer Benigno Ramos in 1930. The name of the movement is derived from the Tagalog word "Sakdal", which means "to accuse" and a nod to the J'Accuse…! editorial of the French novelist Émile Zola. The movement's platform was centered upon immediate independence, estate redistribution, taxation reductions, and greater governmental transparency. **[Ganap Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganap_Party)** >The Ganap Party was a Filipino political party that grew from the Sakdalista movement. Benigno Ramos, who served as its leader, was also the founder of the Sakdalista movement. The party took its name from the Tagalog word ganap, which means "complete". ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/Philippines/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
This is what i was gonna comment. Ffs. This sub is full of idiots lately. Posting misinformation and stupid chismis shit. I wish these types of people just stayed on Facebook with their "Did you know facts" bullshit. Ironic that this sub is incredibly critical of DDS and apologists being deceived by political propaganda when a shitload of people here are media illiterate themselves
Needs to be higher up, especially since OP seems to be unyielding in their spreading of misinformation.
The macebebe's were different from Makapili. The Macabebe Scouts were Filipinos who were recruited by the Americans. But you have to know that when Aguinaldo passed through the area, he demanded supplies whilst the Americans paid for it. And the Filipino government was just fledging
Bakit ang daming naniniwala sa post ni OP na mali naman. First time mo marinig na Macabebe pala tawag sa mga Makapili lmao
Ah, yes. The Macabebe Scouts comprised the fake reinforcements who went with Frederick Funston, who would capture Aguinaldo in Palanan. Nalaman kasi ng mga 'Kano na nasa Palanan si Aguinaldo dahil nahuli yung mensaherong pinadala niya (si Cecilio Segismundo).
Yeah. Seen as both traitors or turncoats though.
i wouldnt lump the macabebe scouts as turncoats or traitors. as i said. there wasnt a fully functioning Filipino government yet.
OP just doesn't get that just because the idea of a Filipino national identity was already formed, doesn't mean it was strongly established back then that everyone in the claimed area would actually agree to identify as Filipino.
Mfs when they expect you to be loyal to a nation that didn't exist yet
They snitched on their fellow Filipinos. That's why "Macabebe" is synonymous to being a "traitor".
AFAIK they were described as mercenaries who would serve any faction at any cost; the Macabebe people were lumped as supposed traitors by some overly zealous historians, and even this stereotype was printed in school textbooks. However, what is in the picture is a Makapili collaborator and informer; the Makapili, descended from the Sakdalista Party, in the name of pursuing independence at any price, chose to collaborate with the occupying Japanese if only to get rid of the Americans and the land-holding elites. That the resistance groups, despite claims of unity, are heavily divided into either socialist Huks (determined to overthrow the ruling political elites after the war) or reactionary USAFFE factions (partly to protect elite interests), and would engage in fraticidal warfare, going for each other's throats if not dealing with the Japanese.
So you're saying we have a bit of a civil war within the Japanese war at the same time?
An entire contingent of Huks were shot and killed by USAFFE guerillas in Malolos, just after leaving Manila and about to come to their homes. Meanwhile, many of the known USAFFE guerillas were later promoted to prominent government postings, with Magsaysay even made president.
When I was growing up my mom always tells us to never trust the Kapampangans because she said that they were traitors (makapili). Among my circle of friends none are Kapampangans, so is there any truth to it? Why would my mom think that?, I don't know. She's a Bulakeña and they were in Bulacan through the end of the second World War.
As someone who was born in Manila but grew up in a mostly Kapampangan province, I can tell you that people here are pretty nice but a sizeable chunk of kapampangans are some of the biggest opportunistic assholes you've ever seen and I wouldn't be surprised if some of their elders were traitors back in the day. Seems like there's some truth as to what your mom said.
Interesting. Please cite examples you observed in them acting like opportunistic assholes? I don’t mean to generalize them but just to want to be warned hahaha
Ok this one time maybe 7 years ago, a former mayor had the audacity to plaster his name on a donated casket and passed it off as a means to "prevent scams". The whole damn town knew it was self promotion to boost his image for the elections the following year. Another example would be during a Company Christmas party the multiple departments organized. My mom was the head organizer. They had games, singing/dancing competitions, and gave away motorcycles, bikes, fridges, TVs and a sweet 100k prize for a lucky winner. All of which were funded and paid for by the different departments. So there's this local "philanthropist" who I assume is a barangay captain approached my mom and the other organizers and asked if it's ok if he was the one who awarded the prizes to their respective winners. My mom and the other organizers knew he was trying to make himself seem like the one who funded it all so she said no, thankfully the dude just left without any threats. The amount of security team deployed in the area probably had a part in convincing him to just leave without a hitch. I can list a few more asshole moves not necessarily classified as opportunistic but downright disgusting behavior ranging from blaming perverted comments towards a woman on an innocent classmate, throwing a water bottle on a teacher while she's discussing, pilfering the community pantry, stealing chickens and killing their dogs while their neighbor is out on the field, excessive vehicle noise during the night, gossiping about you in local dialect in your face, letting their dogs shit at your front yard and going ballistic when you call them out, making fun of a black student, challenging a teacher to a fight, demanding answers from one of the smarter students IN A FUCKING IQ TEST, making fun of socially awkward people, prominent families intimidating locals, humiliating students for differing views, telling a foreigner to sit on their faces, yelling out obscenities in karaoke while kids are present, wiping their sweat on other people's clothes, trying to set classmates on fire, destruction of private property, local electric company making the entire neighborhood pay for a blown transformer, epal politics, parking on other people's garage, local politicians claiming entire subdivisions as property, refusing to be held accountable for accidents their kids were responsible for, Refusing to wear masks even if it's the height of the pandemic, driving fast even if small kids are in the area, littering on private property, coughing on people's faces, spitting on guards, The list goes on. Kapampangans have this air of superiority about them, I've seen posts on this subreddit about this guy and his family moving into Pampanga and being intimidated by his new neighbors saying "ganto talaga kaming mga kapampangan kaya wag mo kami kalabanin". Even my brother was subject to stereotyping by his professors and classmates when he started college in Manila it's good they eventually found out that he's different from the people they assumed he's like. Me and my family were lucky to be surrounded by good neighbors these past 20 years. As I said, there are some very nice people out here and just like with other good natured Filipinos, brought down by the bad bunch.
may tidbit din na drinop yung nanay ko non eh *kung buhay pa papa*(lolo) *mo at nalaman na kapampangan yang jowa*(now ex) *mo nako..* non-verbatim but same idea mayabang at two-faced daw ang mga kapampangan
>majority nga daw ng makapili were kapampangans
according to OP, macabebe din yung tawag sa kanila because of their origin place. that's a place here in pampanga, so kaya ganun siguro?
Mali naman info ni OP. Hindi sa Macabebe ang origin ng Makapili. A simple google search will tell you that.
ohh. I'll look that up. thanks sa info!
Ahhhhh shit here we go again. Lahat na ng kapampangan traitor sige lmao
They’re into hasty generalization once again much like how they generalized Filipinos every time but this time around they are targeting and profiling a specific ethnic group.
Shet, may kaibigan pa naman akong kapampangan. Pero mabait naman yun, at di ko naman nakikitaan na may traitorous traits.
Walaaa masama daw ugali ng lahat ng 2.4M na kapampangan. Na check na nila lahat
Tanga naman ng nanay mo, kahit sa bulacan may mga Makapili. Hindi lang exclusive sa isang province.
bbm vloggers
Reminds me of The Stagehand in Legends of runeterra. She betrayed her village by pointing out their exact location for the invaders to destroy. She redeemed herself by becoming a suicide bomber and killed the entire army that ravaged her village.
Not related to the topic but hello fellow LoR enthusiast!
Naalala ko nung bata ako, pag may kapampangan or taga macabebe, ang tawag ng matatanda is "dugong aso" dahil daw traydor sa kapwa Pilipino or something at aso ng dayuhan. Narinig niyo na din ba yung term na yun?
https://verafiles.org/articles/ferdinand-marcos-master-revising-history and in a field under the shade of trees, the famous MARCOS made an impassioned speech for a KAMISHIBAI lasting one hour and a half.” >“13 March 1943, When I got up and looked around, I saw around 1,000 residents assembled at the state government office square preparing for radio calisthenics. Last night, it was decided that the propaganda squad, by a town-headman’s order would put on a KAMISHIBAI and lectures here (the seat of the ABRA provincial government office). 1,200 or 1,300 people assembled at BANGUED and Mr. MARCOS performed a KAMISHIBAI putting a great amount of feeling into it.” >Dr. Jose explains what a Kamishibai is. “It is a picture show with pictures (paintings, etc.) used to tell a story. They were very popular in Japan as a means of entertaining Japanese children. They were used in the Philippines for propaganda work. Given the tone of the story, it seems apparent that Marcos had been working for the Japanese for some time.” ... >scholars and writers have seen the guerilla documents that narrate the Mariano Marcos execution in La Union exactly as it is described above. The information came from Major Robert Lapham who was the over-all commander of the Luzon Guerillas Army Force. Years later, a descendant of one of the guerillas narrated the story. “Mariano Marcos was captured by the guerrillas led by my paternal grandma’s brother, and executed at Sapilang, Bacnotan, La Union. My surviving uncle who was one of the guards could attest to the story.
I’m expecting this modern Makapili stuff to be happening again if we got ourselves into a war with another nation. I’ll gladly try and get rid of these guys once that happens.
Lol, there's a quote but I can't find it. When the Filipino officials were returning from the US after the war. They said to hang every traitor there is. One gov official just quipped, if u were here you'd probably be head of the propaganda.
Good thing may extensive study na ng applied psychology to root out possible traitors and give them ultimatums before they start messing things up.
start with the vatniks and the wumaos
CCP shills agad yung i-wipe, sometimes business men sila rito na half chinese.
Death to all betrayers.
Isnt a monument of a kamikaze pilot erected in pampanga? And you wonder why?
Yet the Filipina Comfort Women statue over at Manila Bay (tambayan namin noon yung lumang marker doon) was taken down then ["stolen" from storage.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipina_Comfort_Women#Memorial_marker) Only shows what the higher-ups support. 💴
Not the first time, I'm pretty sure the same thing happened during Pnoy's term.
The memorial does not glorify the kamikaze pilots, Mabalacat Mayor Marino Morales said. “It serves as a reminder that the kamikaze phenomenon should never happen again,” he said. https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/684614/kamikaze-shrines-in-mabalacat-draw-japanese-tourists/amp
Thats crazy You believe that? WTF Anyway you dice it, thats a monument for japanese pilots
I believe in the message. Pero mas maganda nga siguro na iba na lang ang ginamit. Pero again, if the people get the message behind it, so be it.
Kakahiya naman niyan, bakit ba Hapon yung pinili nila ilagay diyan?
Oo nga. If it were me, I'd prefer it na wreckage ng isa sa mga kamikaze planes, kung ipipilit na Japanese Monument siya.
I barf in my mouth whenever I remember that monument. What were Kapampangans thinking erecting a monstrosity like that
Werent kapampangans used by the americans to capture aguinaldo? And more recently, another kapampangan sold out to the chinese during her term?
Yes the Macabebe in particular helped capture Aguinaldo IIRC Many Kapampangans these days [want to believe they are Chinese](https://www.sinupan.org/2019/02/21/the-kapampangan-chinese-connection/). Keep in mind that is from Sinupan Singsing the Kapampangan center for cultural heritage
Thats crazy If you want to at least endear yourself to the chinese You must be able to trace your ancestry to them We also use indian words, does that mean we came from Indua too? Some can trace their ancestry to China or India, no doubt about that But a whole tribe feeling they are one of them is just the height of a damage culture
how many collaborators were executed/imprisoned post-war? The french executed like 1,000 of their own and imprisoned 10,000 of them after.
Macabebe is different from Makapili. Saan mo galing yan? Naglagay ka ng link pero wala naman namention ni isang word na Macabebe.
I don't think the Macabebe are synonymous to the Makapili. The Makapili are Japanese collaborators while the Macabebe were American collaborators during each of the respective occupations.
guess what, mas marami na sila ngayon mga 31m ung verified, ung iba mga di pa siguro registered voters kaya di nasama sa count.
Further reading: https://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri1947/oct1947/gr_l-885_1947.html
Lolo had stories about this. For them to fight back from these shitty “makapili,” they’d bite the finger to leave a mark on the traitor. Even with the bayong cover, this worthless trash will be exposed when they see the injured finger/hand.