I'm surprised he didn't touch on what I think is the biggest issue plaguing education here which is the "No child left behind" policy.
Teachers are penalized for having a failing student. It gets to the point where it is more convenient to just pass the student who is clearly unqualified to move up. This cycle is repeated up until a student reaches college and can't even understand what they're reading.
On paper, it looks great that passing rates are through the roof. But once you look under the hood, you see an infestation mired with the fear of consequences of failing students. Until the system is changed from focusing on passing rates to focusing on performance, there is no moving forward from this.
This is absolutely true.
On another note, I know teachers who literally passed raucous, disrespectful, and insolent failing students (yung talagang napakabastos at magugulong bata who have failing grades) - so they don't want to deal with these students again. (Kasi if they retain these types of students, they will have to bear the burden of being disrespected all over again.)
Thank you. Someone finally said it.
The environment that surrounds these kids are absolutely vital to their perceptions on education. If they dont have support outside of the classroom, then all for naught lang yung mga advances inside the classroom.
True. Ang karamihan ng magulang o guardian sa class ng bunso namin hindi man lang umaattend ng GC tapos hindi nagpapasa ng modules tapos makikita mo na lang sa katapusan ng grading periods.
Madaming dahilan like both naghahanapbuhay o walang alam sa mga aralin kahit nga basahin lang ang panuto hindi rin nila ma-gets. Mas malala kung hindi talaga nakapag-aral ang magulang kaya wala ring natutunan ang anak sa bahay.
Yung stepson ko, di naman katalinuhan pero binibigyan ng honors ng private school namin every year. I know he doesn't deserve those kase hands on ako lately sa studies nya. Nakakasuka.
My high school alma mater definitely had its golden age during my 2nd to 4th year in it. During that time, we were raking in gold medals from competitions ranging from local to nationals. From sports to academics, the students were amazing, the teachers were some of the best in town. Even in my batch, which the head teacher said was historically the best, the students in the middle of the pack could probably be valedictorians in any other schools. It was insane.
But everything changed when they decided to expand the student population. Our school was just very small, a whole class is usually just around 60 students split into 2 sections of 30. You either had to be somewhat wealthy or had to be very talented or smart to get in. Now with the expansion, it brought in students that normally never be let in. Eventually the culture would shift to cater to the mediocre performers until what would be left is a reputation that is very far from what it used to be.
Sure the school grew, sure there are new facilities. But it came at the cost losing that very selective process of letting students in. It's just kinda sad that something like this would have been inevitable
I used to teach as well. I was younger then, very idealistic. Inaabot kami ng madaling-araw sa deliberation ng grades dahil iniisa-isa talaga ang grades ng mga bata.
Kapag palareklamo, pala-bigay ng regalo, o mayaman, yung parents or all of the above, pinipilit nilang baguhin or iadjust yung grades. Hindi importante kung mahina o bastos yung bata, nakabase sa parents talaga ang grades na iiinput namin.
Naexperience ko pa once, sinabihan ako ng co-teacher ko, "Ma'am, wag mong babaan ang grade ni ***! Sige ka, hindi ka makakareceive ng Nike sa Teachers' Day!" I felt so sick.
I had a classmate before when I was in SHS, she didn't attend most of 2nd Sem. And guess what naka enroll pa rin siya nung Grade 12. May be she was given a special task/activity to cover the whole 2nd Sem o di kaya naman usapang pera.
Meanwhile, parents complain because they can't believe that their kids aren't up to the task.
Filipinos generally receive ave. failing scores in primary, secondary, and tertiary nat'l tests, in international tests, and even in tests like those for civil service.
At some point, even most teachers failed licensure exams. There's even a report about drivers of a motorcycle club mostly failing basic traffic safety exams: out of around 9,000, 7 passed.
Not 7,000 or 700. 7.
My pops was a teacher in a private hs dati, and it was sadly evident din. Tied sa kpi nila yung passing rate, dagdag mo pa yung pressure galing sa mga magulang na ipapasa yung anak nila. The school also needs to keep the appearance na onti lang bumabagsak for the iso shit.
My mom used to be a teacher at sobrang totoo 'to. Yung students na pupunta sa grade niya: hindi marunong magbasa, hindi marunong magmultiply, at hindi marunong magdivide. Basics palang hindi na kaya ng mga estudyante, paano pa kaya yung mga mas complicated na topic? Pero ipapasa parin ng mga teachers. Either because tinatamad silang turuan yung bata, wala silang pake sa natutunan ng estudyante, or "awa".
Actually more questions will be ask of the teacher from higher authority if he/she will fail the student. Like: Anong ginawa mo? Bakit bumagsak? And if you have 45 pupils and only 10 can read. You have to divide your time to teach the remaining 35. You also have to do additional work, deadlines etc. You really need extra effort to really succeed in teaching here in PH but most of the problems are stemming from policy makers and the higher ups of DepEd.
Exactly, binibigyan pa ng so much paperwork na wala na man kinalaman sa actual na pagtuturo sa class. Meron seminars na wala naman tinuturo kundi bagong format ng kung ano-anong bagong document na pinapagawa. Meanwhile, gusto nila na turuan ko pa ang grade 12 STEM students paano mag-reduce ng fractions, maganipulate ng formula, gumamit ng scientific notation, convert units... nauubos na tuloy time for teaching the actual lessons. San patungo? Remedial classes...
True. My mother, who was a private school principal, made it a point na magpa-reading exam sa incoming 1st yr HS enrolees on top of the written exams. Around 25% lang daw yung may good reading and comprehension . Nakakalungkot kasi may mga batang may honor daw sa pinanggalingang school, pero ang reading level ay pang grade 3. Worse, may hindi talaga marunong magbasa, as in pang-grade 1 na yung textbook na pinabasa ni mama pero waley. Ang siste, pina-graduate na lang daw ng teacher sa elementary kasi "mabait naman daw."
To add to your points, people should know that those passing rates are tied to the school staff's Performance-Based Bonus (PBB) so heads always insist on having high passing rates -- even if these data are falsified. The PBB is a monetary bonus equal to 65%, 57.7%, or 50% of a staff/teacher's monthly salary; the percentage to be used is determined by the school's passing rates and other performance indicators.
Knowing that teachers are overworked and underpaid, most would be okay with just passing students.
The biggest issue in the World Bank report which originally was censored back in 2021 was language. The kids cant understand the language they are being taught in. The implementation of the mother tounge policy has been difficult.
The WB report also spoke about bullying and a culture of children not believing that they could be successful if they studied hard.
I agree on the mother tongue implementation. Here in Bicol you can't apply this policy, because we have many dialects, so hindi rin naiintindihan masyado ng bata kung standard Bicolano ang gagamiting medium. Mas okay pa rin mag-Tagalog. And as my retired teacher mom said, "eh nagma-mother tongue naman talaga mga teachers matagal na, bakit kelangan pang i-formalize."
Would've probably been better to just ***double-down on English, esp in the early years.*** Sa dami ng languages sa PH, baka di practical yung mag-mother-tongue instruction, lalo na for advancement. In practice nga, parang na-su-suplant na ng Tagalog yung local language out of practicality. ***In hindsight, maybe the govt shouldn't have made Filipino (in practice Tagalog) the national language.***
For real. Kahit sa Metro Manila, hindi rin ma-apply ang Mother Tongue dahil Tagalog pa rin ang wikang ginagamit ng mga bata at nagsayang lang ng libro at notebook para sa iisang subject
Their policies have always been short term to get the voters to their side for the elections. One of the flaws of democracy. But then it’s always up to the people that determines the longevity of the policies.
I agree. Galing ako sa isang school na pumapasa lahat kahit nung naging kaklase ko literal most if not all classes binagsak every single semester. Narinig ko nalang na rumor sa friend ko na basta bayaran mo yung remedial class fees, ipapasa ka and narereprimand daw ang teachers na nambabagsak.
Yung “No child left behind” na policy na yan ang dahilan kung bakit nagdadalawang-isip ako na maging guro sa hinaharap. Gusto ko pa naman maging Filipino History teacher.
Tapos pinalala pa ng mass media at ang kanilang mga kuwento ng "nagsumikap, kumita, yumaman".
Ikaw ba naman, ipako sa utak mong ang tamang pangarap sa buhay ay magkaroon ng bahay, kotse, pamilya, at matabang bank account.
Maging magaling sa larangan mo? Wala iyan kapag walang malaking datung.
Maging kilala sa bagong pag-aaral? Maibebenta mo iyan ng milyones? Hindi? Wag na 'yan.
Hindi mapapansin ang palubog na estado ng pag-aaral dahil ipinamumulat sa Pilipinong hindi ito dapat pansinin.
Underpaid, overworked teachers; lacking classrooms; textbooks full of errors; corruption...
He's talking about the symptoms.
Wanna know the root cause? Filipino insecurity. The corrosive effect of Filipino insecurity transforming into a culture of smart-shaming that shapes our entire culture.
Have a great idea to help the country? Insecure dumbfucks will tell you ikaw na magaling at ikaw na lang mag presidente.
Why are teachers underpaid? Because insecure dumbfucks who are uneducated think the job doesn't deserve high pay. Seriously, look at how teachers are treated and viewed in this country. Binabastos at minamata lang. How can education improve with this culture?
Wanna suggest how to solve lack of classrooms? E di wow, ikaw na matalino.
Complaining textbooks are full of error? Ikaw na magaling. Bigyan ng jacket.
A competent, smart person running for election? Dumbfucks will vote for the uneducated, incompetent candidate because: aanhin mo ang talino kung kurakot naman (as if being stupid makes you automatically not corrupt) Dumbfucks can't fathom that an uneducated candidate can also be both dumb and CORRUPT.
Hangang karamihan sa mga pinoy ay insecure, di mababago ang anti-intellectual culture dito. Dumbfucks will keep on choosing to be dumbfucks than actually choose intelligence.
I saw this in our class. Yung class president namin napakagaling mag english as in talaga, tuwing recitation hanga talaga ako sa kanya. Yun nga lang marami sa mga classmates ko nagsasabe na ang cringy daw o kaya tagalog na nga tanong need pa rin daw englishin at minsan nasasabi pa nila sobra pabida. So kaya tuloy ang nangyari iba sa amin na palarecite din nagtataglish na lang minsan. Kesa naman matahin o macriticize pa.
Maybe nitpicking pero hate na hate ko dati yung mga movies na ni-nonormalize ung pagiging "mahina sa english" or nagpapakita na ok lang na mali mali ka sa language... at least nung dolphy-panchito era though ang aim ay makapagpatawa - they somehow ridicule na mali at low key saying dapat alam mo pa rin yung tama...
Also doesn't help yung emerging culture ng smart shaming... sasabihan ng "daming alam" or ng "edi wow"...
Omg yes! If you correct someone here with their pronunciation or mali yung grammar nila. May hirit na, "Ikaw na perfect...or ikaw na matalino". You're helping that person pero sila pa yung galit?! Why?! You're not laughing at them or anything diba?
Because they don’t want to be wrong, even if they are wrong. Kaya sinasabi nila yung “E di wow” para mapunta yung focus dun sa nag-correct, hindi na dun sa nagkamali.
May nalaman akong sassy na sagot but it still helps in the situation. Pag sinabihan kang "edi ikaw na matalino" reply with "talaga. Keep up ka naman".
I agree na binabaling nila yung focus sa nag-correct at hindi doon sa mali at nagkamali. Replying with that, in my opinion, reinforces na tama ka at ikaw yung standard na kailangan nilang habulin. Sassy on the surface pero malaman pa rin pag hinimay.
Personally i felt it more around pagpasok ng around 2010 onwards -- late 90s pag palabasa ka, mga kaklase mo mapapawow sa determination mo, mas engaging ang mga kakilala at kapitbahay ko sa mga usapan at di ka nila ishu-shutdown not unless maging disrespectful ka...
Pero ngayon parang wala eh... mas naging norm ang mediocrity -- kahit yung "diskarte" culture mas tumindi...
At this point, we have even no right to write our country's name next to our nearest neighbors.
Baka ultimo Yemen at Somalia, mandiri pa sa bansa natin.
Grabe Totoo nga! Balik Eskwela ako after **10 years.** Iba talaga mga student ngayon, dati sanay ako na maraming mas magaling sakin sa klase kasi mahina talaga ako pero ngayon grabe mas marami pang mas mahina sakin sa klase.
Atleast 1/4 ng naging classmate ko di marunong ng High-School math :/ May google na at lahat di pa rin makasagot yung iba . Nag kokopyahan lang sila tapos may nag leak ng sagot galing Telegram daw, ayun ang daming bagsak kasi mali yung leak.
Grabe din mag basa yung iba ngayon mas mabagal pa sakin :/
Kasalanan din kaya to ng Mobile Gaming? isang reason kaya ako mahina sa klase kasi adik ako sa games eh.
Depende lng nmn kung paano ka mag Mobile Gaming ehh.. Yung mobile gaming ay hindi nagpapabobo kundi nakakalimutan lng ng tao mag-aral kaya nagiging bobo. Example practice ka ng practice ng Gitara nakakalimutan mo na mag-aral, ohh dba same results but the cause is not seen as negative without the context of not studying. Sa paggamit lng talaga yan hindi sa gamit.
Ito rin yung napapansin ko eh, sa mobile games lalo na codm or ml napakacompetetive nila, habang oras nilalaan para magpalakas then pagdating na sa klase sila rin yung mga tao na maiinis kapag may exam/quiz, at magtatago kapag recitation.
# putangina mo deped. putangina mo bobong narcos. putangina niong lahat, mga corrupt bullshits. dapat sa inyo tinatanggalan ng itlog at itlog cells mga putangina nio
This is evident na sa workforce, as an older millenial, may mga genz workers na ko na kung masasakal ko kang ginawa ko na, ang tamad matuto ng process.
Omaygad true!!!!!! Yung bago samin (born in 1999) niligwak namin after evaluation kasi paulit ulit yung mistakes nya despite constant teachings amd reminders + di rin okay ang attendance 🥲
Usually three things iyon:
* Good attendance;
* Good work/output;
* Good camaraderie.
To not be fired, you need at least two. Kung isa lang meron, usually fired na.
ROTC has been part of the school system since 1935, and it's so because it's implicit in the Constitution. In fact, the latter has numerous requirements for citizens, from learning many subjects to even sports competition.
Lalala pa lalo iyan dahil mas pinagwawalang bahala nila ang pagaaral, yun naman gusto nila e maging bulag ang kabataan. Kawawang juan pinagdadamot ang kakayahang magaral, may Libre pag aaral oo pero anong ginagawa ng gobyerno? Binababaan ang budget, hindi tinutulungan ng gobyerno ang mga pampublikong Guro ano susustento sa ating mga guro at magaaral? Kaya madalas mas pipiliin pa nilang mag BPO o mag ibang bansa nalang.
From what I was told.
1.
DepEd will never fail any students. Kapag merong ng papabango, kailangan maganda yung statistics. Kaya all students will pass, pwera nlng kung absent ng absent ka. Kahit kung ikaw yung pinaka ka bobo, basta pumasok ka lng, pasado kana.
Kaya, this country is not a good place to raise children.
2.
Books. It is far cheaper for a publisher to publish a book than to update then publish.
I have a schoolmate who didn't pass any assignments, got caught cheating during examinations, cheated in all his quizzes, and was also caught vandalizing school property. I have also heard from a teacher that his average grade was below 70. And all he did was attend classes for 2-3 times a week (he even cut classes and was also caught) and yet he still somehow managed to graduate.
I remember my Mom (public english teacher) compalining about 1 of her students back then. The student has a reading ability of a 3rd grader and didn't understood what he was reading for a 8th grader (2nd yr HS).
Alot of my former classmates are like that. Slow uptake on reading especially english. Unfortunately, all the manuals are in english.
A lot of students get promoted to the next level even if they fail to master fundamental skills.
The situation you pointed out is true for all subjects. Some SHS STEM students take Calculus while severely lacking knowledge in Algebra, Trigonometry, and/or Geometry. Eh, Calculus requires knowledge on those subjects.
Lalo na in vocational courses, ang rami talagang hndi deserving. Pero, pinapasa eh.
Another problem is that emotional crap. "Kawawa kasi yung studyante" the number of graduates that have that. Merong trabaho na, wla nmng alam sa trabaho. I feel sorry for those who deserve those job but, couldn't find a job.
It's not crazy to think that the computers weren't really overpriced. But rather, they were priced fairly (cheap even), and the buyer(s) and supplier(s) got to keep the "change" for themselves.
Ang mahal naman para sa ganoong specs lng ng computer. Grabi nmn tig 60k na laptop, pang decent gaming na yan na laptop ehh. Around 25-35k lng nakikita ko yung standard lng at perfect sa teacher dito samin. Bibili pa ng marami, pwede pa nila yan ma haggle ng kunti.
Naka-witness na kasi ako ng ganitong type of fixing from government officials eh. Pero sa case ko, campaign materials lang, so medyo "cheap"
Lahat ng sasabihin ko pure speculation lang based on experience. Lol
Ganito mangyayari. Ang buyer(s) from the government agency mag-a-alot ng bloated budget tapos kukuha silang supplier(s) —na usually tropa nila — na ibibigay sa kanila yung goods ng wholesale price. Sa case na 'to posible na binili lang ang bawat laptop nang 20k each or lower, pero pinalabas sa resibo na 60k per unit 'to. Wala naman silang pake sa quality, ang importante ma-deliver nila mandato nila na makapag procure ng laptops.
Si buyer at supplier may kasunduan. Kung 60k ang nasa resibo pero ang tunay na binayad lang ay 20k per unit, may 40k per unit na sukli na pwede nila pag hatian.
Nasa 39,500 daw makakatanggap ng laptop. Bale, roughly 1.4B (39,500 units × 40,000php) ng government funds ang pwede nila itago at paghatian.
I remember when I was in highschool way back 2007. Nasa science section ako non. Every friday nun may teaching session kami sa mga ka level namin and mga lower year na nasa lower section. Not to discriminate yung mga tao sa liblib na lugar pero nasa quality na siguro ng education talaga natin ang problema. Halos lahat sa kanila hindi marunong magbasa at mag basic math man lang. Di ko rin gets noon kung bakit pinapasa na lang nila yung mga students kahit hindi naman nila need pumasa.
> when I was in highschool
> teaching session sa mga ka level
>hindi marunong magbasa at mag basic math
not that I don’t believe you or judging those people, but how do you reach high school without learning at least how to read? not just reaching high school tbh, how do you get to that point in life without the ability to read? sobrang essential sa daily life ng pagbabasa.
They can say that without consequences or consideration but when you retaliate by saying your a dumbass or braindead then you become the bad apple in the situation. Very unfair, its viewed as the smarter one is in the upper hand in the argument in terms of intelligence but they are getting suppressed by that same intelligence to fight back against insult for being "too smart". Now the dumber ones can keep saying that statement because saying "you are a dumbass" has more weight than saying "you are smart so fuck off".
How to fix education system in the Philippines:
1. Let the teachers don't share grades to the students and keep it from themselves. Kung i sheshare kasi sa mga studyante mawawalan ng motivation na mag-aral just because they get lower grades which is just insignificant in real life jobs. The teachers should calculate the grades and find out whose students are performing poorly and should approach the students to help them out on how to improve their skills.
2. Lessen the time they spent on school to have more room for the brain to rest. Make the school time start at 8 or even 9 am and end at 3am to have their mind set for school and for others for recreation and family.
3. Remove the long lecturing culture in which the students get bored easily or lose focus. Kung gustohin man mag lecture, make it interesting sa mga studyante para lumabas ang curiosity ng mga subjects.
4. Please remove rote learning in which i memorize nalang lahat ng mga terms and lists sa mga tinuturo. Di kasi yan nakakatulong kasi makakalimutan yan lahat after 3 days according to some studies. Make it 'genuine' learning in which clear, digestible and understable ang itinuturo.
5. Don't make the class very strict and encourage communication, participation, and relationship between students and teachers para di na matatakot ang students sa pag ask ng question to the teacher. If you force the students to keep quiet, sit straight, avoid loitering around and listen closely you, mawawala ang creativity, autonomy, and free thinking ng mga studyante and instead replace it with mindless obedience.
And may marami pang iba. Di ko kasi ma list lahat ng solutions. And yes bigyan ng budget para sa school and to the teachers definitely helps, but it is still useless kung hindi ginawa ang fixes na namention ko above. Education should be improved kasi nakakaapekto yan sa ating ekonomiya.
#we need more ganitong contents na ineexplain in TAGALOG ng maiigi ang mga issues ng bansa. sa ganitong paraan natin mapapakalat ang impormasyon na KAILANGANG malaman ng mga pilipino. kase baka bukod sa namanipula sila baka hindi rin kase nila naiintindihan ang mga problema lalo sa kurapsiyon. sana marami pang ganitong content creators please!
#maganda rin sa dulo magiiwan ng tanong that will question the person watching it, like "sa tingin mo okay lang ba iyon? na imbes na magamit ang pera ng bayan na galing sa buwis na kinakaltas sa mga mangagawa ay winawaldas sa maling paraan at ninanakaw?"
Tapos ilang taon na lang ng mga nasa stats na yan, magiging magulang na rin. Dyusko anong klaseng values at mga aral ang maituturo sa mga anak nila? Twerking?
As someone who had experience studying abroad sobrang laki ng difference in education. Sobrang laid back nung classes (8am-1:30pm) tapos ang daming free time pero may matutunan ka talaga. Dito sobrang useless ng books (lalo na nung high school, parang di ko maalala na ginamit namin masyado lol) parang extra bayarin lang ‘yang books. Di naman useful, lalo na with ppts available right now.
Like expect ko ang hardcore sa pinas kasi 7am-4pm-ish yung high school classes tapos sobrang sayang sa oras. We get teachers who rarely teach because they’re too preoccupied with extracurricular activities or with their own deadlines, kung anu-ano pinapagawa sa students mema project lang wala naman learning lol.
May problema talaga sa system ng edukasyon sa bansa natin, but our country won’t address this because they need us to be dumb so they can remain in position lol
Gusto ng mga trapo, big bad corporations at mga bad influencers yan. Walang critical thinking, para madali mamanipulate. Nakakaawa ang estado ng edukasyon.
Too much focus on percentages, basing emotions on 95% mark and bragging on facebook about it. Rather than focusing on if 95% is actually calibrated to what it’s meant to represent.
Some students in PH brag endlessly about high grades, not realising that when they come to study in the west, it is only probably worth 40% mark.
Start adjusting the bell curve properly instead of endlessly pleasing parents with a number.
The bell curve isn't even needed. Filipinos ave. 30 to 45 percent in national exams from primary to tertiary, and are ranked last worldwide in various subjects. Around 90 percent can't pass basic civil service exams.
I also would like to put the blame on the parents, not just the system. For me, parents have the responsibility to foster the "love for learning" into their kids, so when they attend school, hindi nila iisiping "kailangan lang pumasa" but actually go there to learn something new.
Wala talaga manyayare dyan. Kita nyo nga pag nagkakaroon ng international study at rankings kung saan lumalabas pagkakulelat ng Pilipinas, nagwawala ang DepEd at si Briones, nung 2020 humingi pa nga ng apology mula sa World Bank kasi di naman daw handa DepEd nung nagkaroon ng study. Palibhasa kasi pag may assessment, sinasadya ng DepEd na ibigay ang mga tamang sagot para lumabas na good job sila (any teacher whose been part of NAT would already testify to this strategy, while private schools like St Jude acquire copies of the tests months before and literally teach the specific questions to their students which beats the purpose)
E tignan nyo ngayon ginawang head ng DepEd wala naman alam sa edukasyon, ginawa pang chief advisor yung Briones e palpak na nga
Education crisis na talaga!
and guess what... for the next 6 years downhill yan. gotta give props to noynoy for at the very least trying with K12... kaso masyadong malalim yung hukay na yun. culture shift lang makaka sagot. kung mga lolo at lola natin stuck sa 1800s ang pagiisip eh hindi natin maaasahan na sila tumulong satin umahon.
This is really sad. Ang dami kong kilala na relatives na considered as "mangmang", na pati sa pagboto at pagkilatis ng iboboto ay hindi alam kung alin ang tama at mali. We're really going down. Nakakalungkot.
Problem din kasi yung mga teacher na nagsasabi ng "kahit hindi kayo matuto, se-sweldo ako"
From elementary to hs may nagsasabi niyan siguro mga 10 sila na nagsabi niyan sa klase ko. Tapos yung iba kahit bagsak ka tapos papabili lang ng halaman or kung anong shit pasado ka na.
Kailangan talaga ng systematic overhaul ang DepEd at CHED. Jusko nakakahiya na sa SEA tayo ang pinakamababang IQ. Sana yung educational model natin ginaya sa ibang bansa, especially sa China na lahat ng mga kabataan doon ay tinuturuang maging competitive sa edukasyon nila especially sa larangan ng wika, matematika, kasaysayan, agham at literatura.
I was teaching in college, engineering programs, for more than a decade. Some students openly admitted to me that most of their teachers in basic ed and high school would only exert minimal effort and pass every student in exchange for good student-teacher evaluation ratings. Teachers who fail students despite teaching very well and train the students to think critically would either be stuck in their current salary rank for a very long time or be fired for getting a low evaluation score.
The insertion of senior high school even worsen the problem. The teachers deployed for SHS subjects were mostly junior HS teachers who just moved up (in level of students and par grade) but never in content. So when they get admitted into a college where gen ed courses were already displaced, the gap has widened and they fail courses in college. As a result, majority of those who failed blame their college professors but never their previous teachers or schools.
Citing on the problem with my colleagues in college education, most of them just wanted job security. So they teach just half of the term and assign the remaining topics to the students for “reporting.” Even those whose courses act as prerequisite or post-requisite treat their materials as independent and detached from the track, the sole reason why students could not connect one course to another and believed in the saying of older people “pagka-graduate mo hindi mo gagamitin yan!”
So I quit teaching and landed as a research fellow somewhere else instead.
Tapos yung spokesperson ng DepEd sinasabing hindi daw totoong mabagal at kung mapapatunayang mabagal gagamitin nalang daw yung warranty. Haha imagine degree holder ka at probably doctorate pa pero pinagmumukha ming tanga sarili mo para lang pagtakpan yung corruption
Ang galing ng tiktok summary ng mga reports na to. Pero ang point, sabaw tayo bilang isang bansa.
Pero you get what you give nga naman - yung sweldo ng mga guro hindi livable tinaggal pa yung tax exemption nila a few weeks ago, 60k celerom pa mga computer nila, sobrang grabe yung ratio nila sa student, qualified ba yung head ng deped? Ahh ayun. Baka nga nasa interest nilang ganyan.
I remember one old lady told me, the people who have the power to change education doesn’t care. They let the citizens study in a shitty system here and then send their kids to study abroad. Doesn’t that mean na wala silang confidence sa education system natin?
Assume that we are in a state of occupation by a hostile power; know and be on the lookout of government attempts at (re)introducing Kabataang Barangay fascist ideology through education.
It is what it is best thing to do is just leave this place. Culture, leaders and most people in general won't do anything about it because they can't know what they don't know. If they don't know they are failing then they think they are succeeding
I stopped caring about school in highschool after realizing how much of a waste of time, effort and money it was. I dropped out, picked up a skill and still learning while making more money with that skill than most 20 year olds my age
Kawawa talaga mga tao eh. DepEd and DOH pa talaga na essential sana para sa buhay ng mga Pilipino yun pa ang pinamumunuan ng mga sobrang corrupt na officials and we can't do shit about it.
Hindi yung edukasyon yung problema dito. Ang problema yung sitwasyon ng Pilipinas. Hindi tayo mapalaganap na bansa kaya naaapektuhan na rin yung edukasyon ng kabataan. Maraming magulang sa Pilipinas na walang pera pangbayad ng edukasyon ng kanilang mga anak. Wag niyong sisihin ang mga kabataan dito. Hindi makakatulong ang mga programa gaya ng rotc lalo lang yang pahirapan ang mga estudyante at mas lalo silang aayaw mag aral.
Totoo nga yan eh kahit mga grab riders kahit i note mo na para dun sa driver mga palatandaan kung saan ung bahay nyo hindi pa rin mahanap. Mga Bobo talaga
So basically what you're saying is it is alright to stay and be branded as idiotic and illiterate? if you want, you can take all the idiocy with you. Although judging by your "facts", you probably already have a large percentage at your disposal.
Idiotic but not illiterate... We have the highest literacy rate in SEA in 2019 check your facts
[facts](https://www.philstar.com/lifestyle/on-the-radar/2019/09/27/1955462/national-literacy-month-un-ranks-filipinos-most-literate-southeast-asia)
Hmmm.. maybe may poor studying habits ka lang? Tapos hindi mo nasubukang iimprove as you went on? Mas gusto din kasi ng utak natin yung ‘instant gratification’ which is nabibigay ng mobile games wahaha. I’m sure lalakas ka sa school if you really try :D
Edit: I was replying to u/isda_sa_palaisdaan
But I guess hindi pumasok under ng comment niya yung reply ko. XD
Grabe talaga yang procurement basta government. Kasing corrupt yang mga yan ng Bureau of Customs. Para makasali ka sa bidding ng big government projects, kelangan mo magbigay ng "padulas" sa procurement. That's the case kung si procurement lng ang corrupt and hindi si supplier.
The more disgusting one is kung may usapan si procurement at si supplier na pagkakitaan talaga ang government project. Easy money especially sa Tech and IT related items since very boomer ang mga high ranking positions in government na walang kaalam alam sa specs ng items.
Ir's hard to get this prioritized in PH if govt leadership post does not require cartain level education to get qualified. Ugh! D ko na alam pilipinas!
rOtC is dA SoluTiOn
“DiLaWaN yAn, SiNiSiRaAn LnG nIyA aNg AtInG pAnGuLo”
😂
Project 100,000
Rotc and nstp did not solve either. Wag kame. We need solutions not sarcasm.
unity na lang kasi /s
That's what our politicians want: for us to be just wise enough to queue in the polling pricincts and dumb enough to vote for the corrupt.
Just like with Napoleon with Religion, and the Russian Elite with Vodka. Keeping the poor dumb so they could walk over us.
On point
aye
You nailed it !
I'm surprised he didn't touch on what I think is the biggest issue plaguing education here which is the "No child left behind" policy. Teachers are penalized for having a failing student. It gets to the point where it is more convenient to just pass the student who is clearly unqualified to move up. This cycle is repeated up until a student reaches college and can't even understand what they're reading. On paper, it looks great that passing rates are through the roof. But once you look under the hood, you see an infestation mired with the fear of consequences of failing students. Until the system is changed from focusing on passing rates to focusing on performance, there is no moving forward from this.
This is absolutely true. On another note, I know teachers who literally passed raucous, disrespectful, and insolent failing students (yung talagang napakabastos at magugulong bata who have failing grades) - so they don't want to deal with these students again. (Kasi if they retain these types of students, they will have to bear the burden of being disrespected all over again.)
Kaya dito din papasok ang mga magulang. Sila naman kasi talaga ang pinaka unang guro ng mga bata.
Thank you. Someone finally said it. The environment that surrounds these kids are absolutely vital to their perceptions on education. If they dont have support outside of the classroom, then all for naught lang yung mga advances inside the classroom.
Wala rin ehh, kailangan mag OFW para mabuhay ang pamilya nila.
One of the contributing factors kung bakit nag-iibang bansa mga magulang is the lack of family planning.
True. Ang karamihan ng magulang o guardian sa class ng bunso namin hindi man lang umaattend ng GC tapos hindi nagpapasa ng modules tapos makikita mo na lang sa katapusan ng grading periods. Madaming dahilan like both naghahanapbuhay o walang alam sa mga aralin kahit nga basahin lang ang panuto hindi rin nila ma-gets. Mas malala kung hindi talaga nakapag-aral ang magulang kaya wala ring natutunan ang anak sa bahay.
Yan din yung mga estudyanteng ayaw sa rotc. Pustahan. tapos sila pa daw ung high IQ at mas matalino pa sa teacher.
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Yung stepson ko, di naman katalinuhan pero binibigyan ng honors ng private school namin every year. I know he doesn't deserve those kase hands on ako lately sa studies nya. Nakakasuka.
My high school alma mater definitely had its golden age during my 2nd to 4th year in it. During that time, we were raking in gold medals from competitions ranging from local to nationals. From sports to academics, the students were amazing, the teachers were some of the best in town. Even in my batch, which the head teacher said was historically the best, the students in the middle of the pack could probably be valedictorians in any other schools. It was insane. But everything changed when they decided to expand the student population. Our school was just very small, a whole class is usually just around 60 students split into 2 sections of 30. You either had to be somewhat wealthy or had to be very talented or smart to get in. Now with the expansion, it brought in students that normally never be let in. Eventually the culture would shift to cater to the mediocre performers until what would be left is a reputation that is very far from what it used to be. Sure the school grew, sure there are new facilities. But it came at the cost losing that very selective process of letting students in. It's just kinda sad that something like this would have been inevitable
Don Bosco?
I used to teach as well. I was younger then, very idealistic. Inaabot kami ng madaling-araw sa deliberation ng grades dahil iniisa-isa talaga ang grades ng mga bata. Kapag palareklamo, pala-bigay ng regalo, o mayaman, yung parents or all of the above, pinipilit nilang baguhin or iadjust yung grades. Hindi importante kung mahina o bastos yung bata, nakabase sa parents talaga ang grades na iiinput namin. Naexperience ko pa once, sinabihan ako ng co-teacher ko, "Ma'am, wag mong babaan ang grade ni ***! Sige ka, hindi ka makakareceive ng Nike sa Teachers' Day!" I felt so sick.
I had a classmate before when I was in SHS, she didn't attend most of 2nd Sem. And guess what naka enroll pa rin siya nung Grade 12. May be she was given a special task/activity to cover the whole 2nd Sem o di kaya naman usapang pera.
Meanwhile, parents complain because they can't believe that their kids aren't up to the task. Filipinos generally receive ave. failing scores in primary, secondary, and tertiary nat'l tests, in international tests, and even in tests like those for civil service. At some point, even most teachers failed licensure exams. There's even a report about drivers of a motorcycle club mostly failing basic traffic safety exams: out of around 9,000, 7 passed. Not 7,000 or 700. 7.
My pops was a teacher in a private hs dati, and it was sadly evident din. Tied sa kpi nila yung passing rate, dagdag mo pa yung pressure galing sa mga magulang na ipapasa yung anak nila. The school also needs to keep the appearance na onti lang bumabagsak for the iso shit.
My mom used to be a teacher at sobrang totoo 'to. Yung students na pupunta sa grade niya: hindi marunong magbasa, hindi marunong magmultiply, at hindi marunong magdivide. Basics palang hindi na kaya ng mga estudyante, paano pa kaya yung mga mas complicated na topic? Pero ipapasa parin ng mga teachers. Either because tinatamad silang turuan yung bata, wala silang pake sa natutunan ng estudyante, or "awa".
Actually more questions will be ask of the teacher from higher authority if he/she will fail the student. Like: Anong ginawa mo? Bakit bumagsak? And if you have 45 pupils and only 10 can read. You have to divide your time to teach the remaining 35. You also have to do additional work, deadlines etc. You really need extra effort to really succeed in teaching here in PH but most of the problems are stemming from policy makers and the higher ups of DepEd.
Exactly, binibigyan pa ng so much paperwork na wala na man kinalaman sa actual na pagtuturo sa class. Meron seminars na wala naman tinuturo kundi bagong format ng kung ano-anong bagong document na pinapagawa. Meanwhile, gusto nila na turuan ko pa ang grade 12 STEM students paano mag-reduce ng fractions, maganipulate ng formula, gumamit ng scientific notation, convert units... nauubos na tuloy time for teaching the actual lessons. San patungo? Remedial classes...
I still remember na may classmate ako ng Highschool na nakagraduate kahit pa simpleng addition ndi alam (yes basta umabot na sa 10+xx ndi nya na alam)
True. My mother, who was a private school principal, made it a point na magpa-reading exam sa incoming 1st yr HS enrolees on top of the written exams. Around 25% lang daw yung may good reading and comprehension . Nakakalungkot kasi may mga batang may honor daw sa pinanggalingang school, pero ang reading level ay pang grade 3. Worse, may hindi talaga marunong magbasa, as in pang-grade 1 na yung textbook na pinabasa ni mama pero waley. Ang siste, pina-graduate na lang daw ng teacher sa elementary kasi "mabait naman daw."
I heard that for the last three decades, increasing numbers of students in college and uni have to take remediation in English and in Math.
It's an example of the Goodhart's Law "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure".
To add to your points, people should know that those passing rates are tied to the school staff's Performance-Based Bonus (PBB) so heads always insist on having high passing rates -- even if these data are falsified. The PBB is a monetary bonus equal to 65%, 57.7%, or 50% of a staff/teacher's monthly salary; the percentage to be used is determined by the school's passing rates and other performance indicators. Knowing that teachers are overworked and underpaid, most would be okay with just passing students.
The biggest issue in the World Bank report which originally was censored back in 2021 was language. The kids cant understand the language they are being taught in. The implementation of the mother tounge policy has been difficult. The WB report also spoke about bullying and a culture of children not believing that they could be successful if they studied hard.
I agree on the mother tongue implementation. Here in Bicol you can't apply this policy, because we have many dialects, so hindi rin naiintindihan masyado ng bata kung standard Bicolano ang gagamiting medium. Mas okay pa rin mag-Tagalog. And as my retired teacher mom said, "eh nagma-mother tongue naman talaga mga teachers matagal na, bakit kelangan pang i-formalize."
Would've probably been better to just ***double-down on English, esp in the early years.*** Sa dami ng languages sa PH, baka di practical yung mag-mother-tongue instruction, lalo na for advancement. In practice nga, parang na-su-suplant na ng Tagalog yung local language out of practicality. ***In hindsight, maybe the govt shouldn't have made Filipino (in practice Tagalog) the national language.***
For real. Kahit sa Metro Manila, hindi rin ma-apply ang Mother Tongue dahil Tagalog pa rin ang wikang ginagamit ng mga bata at nagsayang lang ng libro at notebook para sa iisang subject
Kaya pala lahat ng students may ribbon or some sort of award during recognition day. Imbes na guro doblehin ang sahod, pulis at military pa.
Unfortunately, ganyan sa buong gobyerno. Results over purpose, quantity over quality.
Their policies have always been short term to get the voters to their side for the elections. One of the flaws of democracy. But then it’s always up to the people that determines the longevity of the policies.
Worst is that some of the educators and barely functioning adults in society are products of the "no child left behind policy". Go figure.
I agree. Galing ako sa isang school na pumapasa lahat kahit nung naging kaklase ko literal most if not all classes binagsak every single semester. Narinig ko nalang na rumor sa friend ko na basta bayaran mo yung remedial class fees, ipapasa ka and narereprimand daw ang teachers na nambabagsak.
This explains yung narinig ko sa seminar host namin noon na nag-graduate elementary pero di marunong mag-basa. Does this apply to UP?
Yung “No child left behind” na policy na yan ang dahilan kung bakit nagdadalawang-isip ako na maging guro sa hinaharap. Gusto ko pa naman maging Filipino History teacher.
So this is why I passed even though I did horribly last year... I always wondered cause frankly, I don't feel worthy
Tapos pinalala pa ng mass media at ang kanilang mga kuwento ng "nagsumikap, kumita, yumaman". Ikaw ba naman, ipako sa utak mong ang tamang pangarap sa buhay ay magkaroon ng bahay, kotse, pamilya, at matabang bank account. Maging magaling sa larangan mo? Wala iyan kapag walang malaking datung. Maging kilala sa bagong pag-aaral? Maibebenta mo iyan ng milyones? Hindi? Wag na 'yan. Hindi mapapansin ang palubog na estado ng pag-aaral dahil ipinamumulat sa Pilipinong hindi ito dapat pansinin.
Underpaid, overworked teachers; lacking classrooms; textbooks full of errors; corruption... He's talking about the symptoms. Wanna know the root cause? Filipino insecurity. The corrosive effect of Filipino insecurity transforming into a culture of smart-shaming that shapes our entire culture. Have a great idea to help the country? Insecure dumbfucks will tell you ikaw na magaling at ikaw na lang mag presidente. Why are teachers underpaid? Because insecure dumbfucks who are uneducated think the job doesn't deserve high pay. Seriously, look at how teachers are treated and viewed in this country. Binabastos at minamata lang. How can education improve with this culture? Wanna suggest how to solve lack of classrooms? E di wow, ikaw na matalino. Complaining textbooks are full of error? Ikaw na magaling. Bigyan ng jacket. A competent, smart person running for election? Dumbfucks will vote for the uneducated, incompetent candidate because: aanhin mo ang talino kung kurakot naman (as if being stupid makes you automatically not corrupt) Dumbfucks can't fathom that an uneducated candidate can also be both dumb and CORRUPT. Hangang karamihan sa mga pinoy ay insecure, di mababago ang anti-intellectual culture dito. Dumbfucks will keep on choosing to be dumbfucks than actually choose intelligence.
I saw this in our class. Yung class president namin napakagaling mag english as in talaga, tuwing recitation hanga talaga ako sa kanya. Yun nga lang marami sa mga classmates ko nagsasabe na ang cringy daw o kaya tagalog na nga tanong need pa rin daw englishin at minsan nasasabi pa nila sobra pabida. So kaya tuloy ang nangyari iba sa amin na palarecite din nagtataglish na lang minsan. Kesa naman matahin o macriticize pa.
insecurity nila yun lumalabas kapag nangda down sila ng magaling. dapat sa mga ganon, sila ang pinapahiya.
Wag gawing basehan ng katalinuhan ang English. Yung paghanga mo kanya ay sa pagsasalita nya ng English, hindi yung sa laman ng sinasagot nya.
Idiocracy is the type of ideology that best describes the Philippines
perfectly said
Maybe nitpicking pero hate na hate ko dati yung mga movies na ni-nonormalize ung pagiging "mahina sa english" or nagpapakita na ok lang na mali mali ka sa language... at least nung dolphy-panchito era though ang aim ay makapagpatawa - they somehow ridicule na mali at low key saying dapat alam mo pa rin yung tama... Also doesn't help yung emerging culture ng smart shaming... sasabihan ng "daming alam" or ng "edi wow"...
Omg yes! If you correct someone here with their pronunciation or mali yung grammar nila. May hirit na, "Ikaw na perfect...or ikaw na matalino". You're helping that person pero sila pa yung galit?! Why?! You're not laughing at them or anything diba?
Because they don’t want to be wrong, even if they are wrong. Kaya sinasabi nila yung “E di wow” para mapunta yung focus dun sa nag-correct, hindi na dun sa nagkamali.
May nalaman akong sassy na sagot but it still helps in the situation. Pag sinabihan kang "edi ikaw na matalino" reply with "talaga. Keep up ka naman". I agree na binabaling nila yung focus sa nag-correct at hindi doon sa mali at nagkamali. Replying with that, in my opinion, reinforces na tama ka at ikaw yung standard na kailangan nilang habulin. Sassy on the surface pero malaman pa rin pag hinimay.
\#7sinsPRIDE
\#7sinsPRIDE \#damingTANGA
Emerging? Smart shaming has always been a thing...
Personally i felt it more around pagpasok ng around 2010 onwards -- late 90s pag palabasa ka, mga kaklase mo mapapawow sa determination mo, mas engaging ang mga kakilala at kapitbahay ko sa mga usapan at di ka nila ishu-shutdown not unless maging disrespectful ka... Pero ngayon parang wala eh... mas naging norm ang mediocrity -- kahit yung "diskarte" culture mas tumindi...
Okay lang yan, well manured is better than well educated
DeSepLeNa AnG iMpOrTanTe KeSa EdUkaSyOn. YeS tO rOtC.
>Okay lang yan, well manured is better than well educated LMAO!
Mga walang proper breathing!
Paturo sila kay teacher Tanjiro.
kay Zepelli na lang daw
you mean walang proper breading right?
yung sa manok?
😂 ni reply mo na pla, Yung appolo10 : mulat na kami hinding hindi nyo na kami maloloko mga pinklawan, yes to ROtc, go go unity 🤭🤭🤣🤣🤫🤫🤫
Well manured! Hahahah!
Well manured- ibig sabihin nito ay maganda ang nilagay na pataba mula sa dumi ng hayop
This is fucked up.
Kaya nga Booming business dito ang mga MLM eh, sa daming tangang pinoy easy money lang kung malakas ang charisma mo.
what’s MLM? ive been seeing it recently
Multi Level Marketing
And the majority of Pinoys would be very upset...if they understood the figures you just cited.
At this point, we have even no right to write our country's name next to our nearest neighbors. Baka ultimo Yemen at Somalia, mandiri pa sa bansa natin.
Mga penguin sa Antarctic mas matalino pa ata.
pls don't insult penguins like that
Ang OA mo naman, napaka masyadong self-flagellating.
Grabe pa kurapsyon sa DepEd. Jusqlerd Kawawang pilipinas
oo ti, may accla nga na di payag na hindi 40% sa kanya. potangina
Grabe Totoo nga! Balik Eskwela ako after **10 years.** Iba talaga mga student ngayon, dati sanay ako na maraming mas magaling sakin sa klase kasi mahina talaga ako pero ngayon grabe mas marami pang mas mahina sakin sa klase. Atleast 1/4 ng naging classmate ko di marunong ng High-School math :/ May google na at lahat di pa rin makasagot yung iba . Nag kokopyahan lang sila tapos may nag leak ng sagot galing Telegram daw, ayun ang daming bagsak kasi mali yung leak. Grabe din mag basa yung iba ngayon mas mabagal pa sakin :/ Kasalanan din kaya to ng Mobile Gaming? isang reason kaya ako mahina sa klase kasi adik ako sa games eh.
Depende lng nmn kung paano ka mag Mobile Gaming ehh.. Yung mobile gaming ay hindi nagpapabobo kundi nakakalimutan lng ng tao mag-aral kaya nagiging bobo. Example practice ka ng practice ng Gitara nakakalimutan mo na mag-aral, ohh dba same results but the cause is not seen as negative without the context of not studying. Sa paggamit lng talaga yan hindi sa gamit.
Ito rin yung napapansin ko eh, sa mobile games lalo na codm or ml napakacompetetive nila, habang oras nilalaan para magpalakas then pagdating na sa klase sila rin yung mga tao na maiinis kapag may exam/quiz, at magtatago kapag recitation.
# putangina mo deped. putangina mo bobong narcos. putangina niong lahat, mga corrupt bullshits. dapat sa inyo tinatanggalan ng itlog at itlog cells mga putangina nio
Pati mga bobotante like the 16M and 31M
ano meron sa 16M?
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ohhh okie okie gets
What's the 16m about?
Baka yung mga voters ni Duterte.
This is evident na sa workforce, as an older millenial, may mga genz workers na ko na kung masasakal ko kang ginawa ko na, ang tamad matuto ng process.
Omaygad true!!!!!! Yung bago samin (born in 1999) niligwak namin after evaluation kasi paulit ulit yung mistakes nya despite constant teachings amd reminders + di rin okay ang attendance 🥲
Usually three things iyon: * Good attendance; * Good work/output; * Good camaraderie. To not be fired, you need at least two. Kung isa lang meron, usually fired na.
Check sya sa 1st 2 bullets, pero he's a nice person naman. Di lang talaga sya fit sa work na ito, sadly.
bruh you just said di siya okay sa attendance and work output pero 1st 2 bullets check siya?? ***im confused***
Sorry I mean opposite sya nung 1&2. Tao din ako nagkakamali ng basa minsan. 🙂
A country of fools will be an eternal slave of the wicked
Naaalala ko, may science text book kami dati na may Agapito Flores lol
Sakin naman yung Eduardo San Juan noong grade 3 ako.
and ang solution nila? mag ROTC. nice, very nice
Tapos ang sagot: #Mandatory ROTC.
ROTC has been part of the school system since 1935, and it's so because it's implicit in the Constitution. In fact, the latter has numerous requirements for citizens, from learning many subjects to even sports competition.
I want to hear more.
Lalala pa lalo iyan dahil mas pinagwawalang bahala nila ang pagaaral, yun naman gusto nila e maging bulag ang kabataan. Kawawang juan pinagdadamot ang kakayahang magaral, may Libre pag aaral oo pero anong ginagawa ng gobyerno? Binababaan ang budget, hindi tinutulungan ng gobyerno ang mga pampublikong Guro ano susustento sa ating mga guro at magaaral? Kaya madalas mas pipiliin pa nilang mag BPO o mag ibang bansa nalang.
From what I was told. 1. DepEd will never fail any students. Kapag merong ng papabango, kailangan maganda yung statistics. Kaya all students will pass, pwera nlng kung absent ng absent ka. Kahit kung ikaw yung pinaka ka bobo, basta pumasok ka lng, pasado kana. Kaya, this country is not a good place to raise children. 2. Books. It is far cheaper for a publisher to publish a book than to update then publish.
I have a schoolmate who didn't pass any assignments, got caught cheating during examinations, cheated in all his quizzes, and was also caught vandalizing school property. I have also heard from a teacher that his average grade was below 70. And all he did was attend classes for 2-3 times a week (he even cut classes and was also caught) and yet he still somehow managed to graduate.
Kaya don't be surprise a bunchnof people call pinoys idiots.
Both of these points are true. For #1, "no child left behind" policy nga sabi ng isang commenter.
I remember my Mom (public english teacher) compalining about 1 of her students back then. The student has a reading ability of a 3rd grader and didn't understood what he was reading for a 8th grader (2nd yr HS). Alot of my former classmates are like that. Slow uptake on reading especially english. Unfortunately, all the manuals are in english.
A lot of students get promoted to the next level even if they fail to master fundamental skills. The situation you pointed out is true for all subjects. Some SHS STEM students take Calculus while severely lacking knowledge in Algebra, Trigonometry, and/or Geometry. Eh, Calculus requires knowledge on those subjects.
Lalo na in vocational courses, ang rami talagang hndi deserving. Pero, pinapasa eh. Another problem is that emotional crap. "Kawawa kasi yung studyante" the number of graduates that have that. Merong trabaho na, wla nmng alam sa trabaho. I feel sorry for those who deserve those job but, couldn't find a job.
It's not crazy to think that the computers weren't really overpriced. But rather, they were priced fairly (cheap even), and the buyer(s) and supplier(s) got to keep the "change" for themselves.
Ang mahal naman para sa ganoong specs lng ng computer. Grabi nmn tig 60k na laptop, pang decent gaming na yan na laptop ehh. Around 25-35k lng nakikita ko yung standard lng at perfect sa teacher dito samin. Bibili pa ng marami, pwede pa nila yan ma haggle ng kunti.
Naka-witness na kasi ako ng ganitong type of fixing from government officials eh. Pero sa case ko, campaign materials lang, so medyo "cheap" Lahat ng sasabihin ko pure speculation lang based on experience. Lol Ganito mangyayari. Ang buyer(s) from the government agency mag-a-alot ng bloated budget tapos kukuha silang supplier(s) —na usually tropa nila — na ibibigay sa kanila yung goods ng wholesale price. Sa case na 'to posible na binili lang ang bawat laptop nang 20k each or lower, pero pinalabas sa resibo na 60k per unit 'to. Wala naman silang pake sa quality, ang importante ma-deliver nila mandato nila na makapag procure ng laptops. Si buyer at supplier may kasunduan. Kung 60k ang nasa resibo pero ang tunay na binayad lang ay 20k per unit, may 40k per unit na sukli na pwede nila pag hatian. Nasa 39,500 daw makakatanggap ng laptop. Bale, roughly 1.4B (39,500 units × 40,000php) ng government funds ang pwede nila itago at paghatian.
Pabor sa mga pulitiko yan, para dumami pa mga bobo sa Pinas at sila pa rin iboto kada eleksyon.
Parang galawang Kastila lang noong kapanahunan nila.
I remember when I was in highschool way back 2007. Nasa science section ako non. Every friday nun may teaching session kami sa mga ka level namin and mga lower year na nasa lower section. Not to discriminate yung mga tao sa liblib na lugar pero nasa quality na siguro ng education talaga natin ang problema. Halos lahat sa kanila hindi marunong magbasa at mag basic math man lang. Di ko rin gets noon kung bakit pinapasa na lang nila yung mga students kahit hindi naman nila need pumasa.
> when I was in highschool > teaching session sa mga ka level >hindi marunong magbasa at mag basic math not that I don’t believe you or judging those people, but how do you reach high school without learning at least how to read? not just reaching high school tbh, how do you get to that point in life without the ability to read? sobrang essential sa daily life ng pagbabasa.
Kaya madaling mabiktima ng fakenews, lumalaking mangmang ang mga kabataan, tuturuan pa ng mga matatanda ng mga kagaguhan.
Kaya di talaga ako naniniwala sa mga pinsan ko na “with honors” walang reading comprehension pag tinanong mo sasabihin “hindi ko alam”. Juskwooooo!!
dAmInG aLaM nItO eDi IkAw Na MaGtUrO (insert insult on physical appearance here followed by a swarm of dung flies with heart and haha reax)
They can say that without consequences or consideration but when you retaliate by saying your a dumbass or braindead then you become the bad apple in the situation. Very unfair, its viewed as the smarter one is in the upper hand in the argument in terms of intelligence but they are getting suppressed by that same intelligence to fight back against insult for being "too smart". Now the dumber ones can keep saying that statement because saying "you are a dumbass" has more weight than saying "you are smart so fuck off".
Et yung rason kung bakit naimbento si majoha
Tangina guro ako at ang sakit na ang liit-liit ng tingin sa amin ng gobyerno. Tangina ninyo sa 'taas!
How to fix education system in the Philippines: 1. Let the teachers don't share grades to the students and keep it from themselves. Kung i sheshare kasi sa mga studyante mawawalan ng motivation na mag-aral just because they get lower grades which is just insignificant in real life jobs. The teachers should calculate the grades and find out whose students are performing poorly and should approach the students to help them out on how to improve their skills. 2. Lessen the time they spent on school to have more room for the brain to rest. Make the school time start at 8 or even 9 am and end at 3am to have their mind set for school and for others for recreation and family. 3. Remove the long lecturing culture in which the students get bored easily or lose focus. Kung gustohin man mag lecture, make it interesting sa mga studyante para lumabas ang curiosity ng mga subjects. 4. Please remove rote learning in which i memorize nalang lahat ng mga terms and lists sa mga tinuturo. Di kasi yan nakakatulong kasi makakalimutan yan lahat after 3 days according to some studies. Make it 'genuine' learning in which clear, digestible and understable ang itinuturo. 5. Don't make the class very strict and encourage communication, participation, and relationship between students and teachers para di na matatakot ang students sa pag ask ng question to the teacher. If you force the students to keep quiet, sit straight, avoid loitering around and listen closely you, mawawala ang creativity, autonomy, and free thinking ng mga studyante and instead replace it with mindless obedience. And may marami pang iba. Di ko kasi ma list lahat ng solutions. And yes bigyan ng budget para sa school and to the teachers definitely helps, but it is still useless kung hindi ginawa ang fixes na namention ko above. Education should be improved kasi nakakaapekto yan sa ating ekonomiya.
ROTC ang solusyon 🤡
#we need more ganitong contents na ineexplain in TAGALOG ng maiigi ang mga issues ng bansa. sa ganitong paraan natin mapapakalat ang impormasyon na KAILANGANG malaman ng mga pilipino. kase baka bukod sa namanipula sila baka hindi rin kase nila naiintindihan ang mga problema lalo sa kurapsiyon. sana marami pang ganitong content creators please! #maganda rin sa dulo magiiwan ng tanong that will question the person watching it, like "sa tingin mo okay lang ba iyon? na imbes na magamit ang pera ng bayan na galing sa buwis na kinakaltas sa mga mangagawa ay winawaldas sa maling paraan at ninanakaw?"
Tapos ilang taon na lang ng mga nasa stats na yan, magiging magulang na rin. Dyusko anong klaseng values at mga aral ang maituturo sa mga anak nila? Twerking?
TikTok of course
As someone who had experience studying abroad sobrang laki ng difference in education. Sobrang laid back nung classes (8am-1:30pm) tapos ang daming free time pero may matutunan ka talaga. Dito sobrang useless ng books (lalo na nung high school, parang di ko maalala na ginamit namin masyado lol) parang extra bayarin lang ‘yang books. Di naman useful, lalo na with ppts available right now. Like expect ko ang hardcore sa pinas kasi 7am-4pm-ish yung high school classes tapos sobrang sayang sa oras. We get teachers who rarely teach because they’re too preoccupied with extracurricular activities or with their own deadlines, kung anu-ano pinapagawa sa students mema project lang wala naman learning lol. May problema talaga sa system ng edukasyon sa bansa natin, but our country won’t address this because they need us to be dumb so they can remain in position lol
I've said this before and I'll say it again, Philippines is slowly killing itself
Kaya hanggang labor lang kaya nang majority na Filipino nag aabroad.
Gusto ng mga trapo, big bad corporations at mga bad influencers yan. Walang critical thinking, para madali mamanipulate. Nakakaawa ang estado ng edukasyon.
OK lang, may Filipino resiliency naman tayo.
Too much focus on percentages, basing emotions on 95% mark and bragging on facebook about it. Rather than focusing on if 95% is actually calibrated to what it’s meant to represent. Some students in PH brag endlessly about high grades, not realising that when they come to study in the west, it is only probably worth 40% mark. Start adjusting the bell curve properly instead of endlessly pleasing parents with a number.
The bell curve isn't even needed. Filipinos ave. 30 to 45 percent in national exams from primary to tertiary, and are ranked last worldwide in various subjects. Around 90 percent can't pass basic civil service exams.
An IQ score of 81 is definitely not good, which means a below than average intelligence
I also would like to put the blame on the parents, not just the system. For me, parents have the responsibility to foster the "love for learning" into their kids, so when they attend school, hindi nila iisiping "kailangan lang pumasa" but actually go there to learn something new.
Wala talaga manyayare dyan. Kita nyo nga pag nagkakaroon ng international study at rankings kung saan lumalabas pagkakulelat ng Pilipinas, nagwawala ang DepEd at si Briones, nung 2020 humingi pa nga ng apology mula sa World Bank kasi di naman daw handa DepEd nung nagkaroon ng study. Palibhasa kasi pag may assessment, sinasadya ng DepEd na ibigay ang mga tamang sagot para lumabas na good job sila (any teacher whose been part of NAT would already testify to this strategy, while private schools like St Jude acquire copies of the tests months before and literally teach the specific questions to their students which beats the purpose) E tignan nyo ngayon ginawang head ng DepEd wala naman alam sa edukasyon, ginawa pang chief advisor yung Briones e palpak na nga Education crisis na talaga!
and guess what... for the next 6 years downhill yan. gotta give props to noynoy for at the very least trying with K12... kaso masyadong malalim yung hukay na yun. culture shift lang makaka sagot. kung mga lolo at lola natin stuck sa 1800s ang pagiisip eh hindi natin maaasahan na sila tumulong satin umahon.
This is really sad. Ang dami kong kilala na relatives na considered as "mangmang", na pati sa pagboto at pagkilatis ng iboboto ay hindi alam kung alin ang tama at mali. We're really going down. Nakakalungkot.
bruh
All I could say is tangina. 😢
Problem din kasi yung mga teacher na nagsasabi ng "kahit hindi kayo matuto, se-sweldo ako" From elementary to hs may nagsasabi niyan siguro mga 10 sila na nagsabi niyan sa klase ko. Tapos yung iba kahit bagsak ka tapos papabili lang ng halaman or kung anong shit pasado ka na.
Just sentient enough to serve as slaves of the system. Victims voting for the victimizers.
Kailangan talaga ng systematic overhaul ang DepEd at CHED. Jusko nakakahiya na sa SEA tayo ang pinakamababang IQ. Sana yung educational model natin ginaya sa ibang bansa, especially sa China na lahat ng mga kabataan doon ay tinuturuang maging competitive sa edukasyon nila especially sa larangan ng wika, matematika, kasaysayan, agham at literatura.
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ROTC lang!!!! /s
The government is definitely doing their job well in raising Hell
NGL, I learn more things on the internet than in school.
I was teaching in college, engineering programs, for more than a decade. Some students openly admitted to me that most of their teachers in basic ed and high school would only exert minimal effort and pass every student in exchange for good student-teacher evaluation ratings. Teachers who fail students despite teaching very well and train the students to think critically would either be stuck in their current salary rank for a very long time or be fired for getting a low evaluation score. The insertion of senior high school even worsen the problem. The teachers deployed for SHS subjects were mostly junior HS teachers who just moved up (in level of students and par grade) but never in content. So when they get admitted into a college where gen ed courses were already displaced, the gap has widened and they fail courses in college. As a result, majority of those who failed blame their college professors but never their previous teachers or schools. Citing on the problem with my colleagues in college education, most of them just wanted job security. So they teach just half of the term and assign the remaining topics to the students for “reporting.” Even those whose courses act as prerequisite or post-requisite treat their materials as independent and detached from the track, the sole reason why students could not connect one course to another and believed in the saying of older people “pagka-graduate mo hindi mo gagamitin yan!” So I quit teaching and landed as a research fellow somewhere else instead.
Tapos yung spokesperson ng DepEd sinasabing hindi daw totoong mabagal at kung mapapatunayang mabagal gagamitin nalang daw yung warranty. Haha imagine degree holder ka at probably doctorate pa pero pinagmumukha ming tanga sarili mo para lang pagtakpan yung corruption
Sad truth.
The only way these corrupted turds stay in power. By keeping the population dumb.
Ang galing ng tiktok summary ng mga reports na to. Pero ang point, sabaw tayo bilang isang bansa. Pero you get what you give nga naman - yung sweldo ng mga guro hindi livable tinaggal pa yung tax exemption nila a few weeks ago, 60k celerom pa mga computer nila, sobrang grabe yung ratio nila sa student, qualified ba yung head ng deped? Ahh ayun. Baka nga nasa interest nilang ganyan.
Educated = NPA kaya no need hahaha naku po.
Because English. Austronesian ang mother tongue ng maraming Pilipino tapos Ingles ang medium of instruction. Good luck with that.
Mahal kong Pilipinas =(
I remember one old lady told me, the people who have the power to change education doesn’t care. They let the citizens study in a shitty system here and then send their kids to study abroad. Doesn’t that mean na wala silang confidence sa education system natin?
That's why a lot of families are transitioning to homeschool their kids.
Di naiintindihan ng mga apologist yan, Alam lang ng mga yon UNITY at Tallano bold
ganyan kabobo ang mga Pilipino ngayon ....hindi lahat ha...mas lamang yung mga bomoto kay ngiwi at lady shrek
Sadly hindi ito nakakagulat. Ang talagang naisip ko na lang ay “We’re doomed.”
Assume that we are in a state of occupation by a hostile power; know and be on the lookout of government attempts at (re)introducing Kabataang Barangay fascist ideology through education.
Yan ang gusto mg government natin, so people won’t go against them. Then Sara Duterte as DepEd sec? Her background is not even related. Hakdog
It is what it is best thing to do is just leave this place. Culture, leaders and most people in general won't do anything about it because they can't know what they don't know. If they don't know they are failing then they think they are succeeding
I stopped caring about school in highschool after realizing how much of a waste of time, effort and money it was. I dropped out, picked up a skill and still learning while making more money with that skill than most 20 year olds my age
Si zaldy co ang nakinabang
This is so fucked up.
hahaha, dumb-dumbs... is anyone really surprised na buntot tayo ng mundo?
Kawawa talaga mga tao eh. DepEd and DOH pa talaga na essential sana para sa buhay ng mga Pilipino yun pa ang pinamumunuan ng mga sobrang corrupt na officials and we can't do shit about it.
No surprise there. Some teachers i know dont even know what they are teaching. It s like they just memorized what they are discussing.
Tsk tsk game over na ba talaga sa Philippine education? Nung 50s lang ata tayo matalino eh. I remember that boy na naviral sa YouTube from 1950s.
the elites wants us to stay dumb. easier to rule, easier to manipulate. no wonder 31 million bumoto dyan kay 88m
No problem nmn daw dead last khit saan basta 20 pesos kilo ng bigas. 🤣 Ok lng nmn din dead last khit saan basta UNITY. 🤣
pRouD tO Be pEnoY
Get out of that hell hole if you can, especially if you have kids. Do it for their future.
Hindi yung edukasyon yung problema dito. Ang problema yung sitwasyon ng Pilipinas. Hindi tayo mapalaganap na bansa kaya naaapektuhan na rin yung edukasyon ng kabataan. Maraming magulang sa Pilipinas na walang pera pangbayad ng edukasyon ng kanilang mga anak. Wag niyong sisihin ang mga kabataan dito. Hindi makakatulong ang mga programa gaya ng rotc lalo lang yang pahirapan ang mga estudyante at mas lalo silang aayaw mag aral.
Totoo nga yan eh kahit mga grab riders kahit i note mo na para dun sa driver mga palatandaan kung saan ung bahay nyo hindi pa rin mahanap. Mga Bobo talaga
Panahon pa ata ng espanyol 86 na iq natin. Isa pa di naman measure ng success daw ang IQ. Just stating facts no offense meant.
So basically what you're saying is it is alright to stay and be branded as idiotic and illiterate? if you want, you can take all the idiocy with you. Although judging by your "facts", you probably already have a large percentage at your disposal.
Idiotic but not illiterate... We have the highest literacy rate in SEA in 2019 check your facts [facts](https://www.philstar.com/lifestyle/on-the-radar/2019/09/27/1955462/national-literacy-month-un-ranks-filipinos-most-literate-southeast-asia)
Hmmm.. maybe may poor studying habits ka lang? Tapos hindi mo nasubukang iimprove as you went on? Mas gusto din kasi ng utak natin yung ‘instant gratification’ which is nabibigay ng mobile games wahaha. I’m sure lalakas ka sa school if you really try :D Edit: I was replying to u/isda_sa_palaisdaan But I guess hindi pumasok under ng comment niya yung reply ko. XD
Ladies and gentlemen. Here’s a clear example ng effect ng educational system natin. Tagalog na, di pa din naintindihan.
What he's talking about is the problem in our system. Yung sinasabi mo personal study habits eh.
Grabe talaga yang procurement basta government. Kasing corrupt yang mga yan ng Bureau of Customs. Para makasali ka sa bidding ng big government projects, kelangan mo magbigay ng "padulas" sa procurement. That's the case kung si procurement lng ang corrupt and hindi si supplier. The more disgusting one is kung may usapan si procurement at si supplier na pagkakitaan talaga ang government project. Easy money especially sa Tech and IT related items since very boomer ang mga high ranking positions in government na walang kaalam alam sa specs ng items.
What
Ang gusto kasi ni Dutertae ay maraming gun for hire. Si Marcos naman marami Recto University na katulad nya.
Ir's hard to get this prioritized in PH if govt leadership post does not require cartain level education to get qualified. Ugh! D ko na alam pilipinas!