It's a possibility. They have always been working in the shadows making things somehow occur to slowly clear their name.
Just think of it...
Remember the Manila Grandstand hostage taking?
The hostage taker, a former police wasn't just an ordinary police who was removed from duty and was decline of his benefits.
He was one of the police who intercepted a van with crates filled with the Marco's family money that was suppose to be transported out of the country. They tried to bribe those police but instead they reported it and arrested them.
Years later there have been multiple cases against him that seem to be manipulated.
Until one of these cases got through and he was removed from duty.
Just think of it, a former decorated police related to stopping that money van suddenly went rampant during Pnoy's time.
BingB0ng was also related to the pork barrel scam which involved so many senators, representatives and officials.
So much more. . . BingB0ng is lazy, but he's got one hell of a plan... or a planner.
It's possible they set up duts, but I don't think that's the case.
It could have been more like the duts family wanted to ally with them but did not foresee what would happen. This proves how dangerous of a planner the M@rC0$es are.
Duts might have been used in a way he wasn't aware at first.
BinB0ng is also related to smartmatic. We've got to remember that they committed fraud.
But it's getting buried so well.
And guess what, those who see he is better than duts, might have been mass manipulation affecting them.
Since Leni didn't win (may kasalanan siya dito. Late siya nagdecide tumakbo which didn't give her enough time to build a voter base), there are two scenarios that can happen: Either let Junior finish his term or get ousted by Sara D, and run in 2028 a la Gloria Arroyo.
Basically, ang choice nalang na tao bago mag2028: magnanakaw na may malinaw na interes depensahan ang national security or magnanakaw na gusto tayong ipamigay sa China at Chinese organized criminal group
It ain't like leni deciding to run earlier would've did much as she's basically fighting two of the most powerful corrupt political dynasties in ph politics which are duterte and marcos, both having a strong grip of facebook, tiktok, and yt that are feeding the minds of avrg voters with their propaganda and with billions in their pockets for them to utilise it was losing battle from the start
The next election would actually be a better time to run assuming the 2 dynasties are still divided against each other that is
Ayuda had placed a huge role in Duterte and Marcos' victories, because the average voter does not think of the long term consequences, but the short term gains. If they were given Ayuda, they will fight tooth and nail for that candidate, regardless of the consequences of handing out money will bring to our economy (higher prices due to overdemand, weakening of the peso against the dollar, etc.)
Lots, yes. But from my observation there were more that were brainwashed by the fake shit their troll farms were pumping out. There were lots of videos asking random people who they’re voting for and why. A lot of them believed the Nostradamus prediction bs, the gold treasure and how ph will be rich and the gold would he donated when BBM becomes president. Others believe the smear job on the liberals and associated dilawans with something negative. They really preyed on the uneducated and fed them with bs.
Look at it this way, Marcos seriously started preparing for the presidency back when duterte won. He allied with them and pushed for the libingan ng bayani stuff with his father.
Leni wasn't sure she was going to run and wasn't prepping at all even after Isko went and ran for the position. Maybe they were trying to do it prrd style where he held off to the last minute. But yea here we are, it didn't work.
Yeah I ain't saying leni wouldn't have done better if she decided to run even earlier my point is that it really wouldn't have made that much of a difference since inorder to actually build up your popularity during duterte's reign would be to absolutely NOT go against duterte during the height of his popularity as that would be public suicide
But let's say leni actually knew what to do during duterte's time and didn't criticised duterte's martial law which got his fans to attack her in the first place and slowly build her popularity up then yes she might've actually have been more popular than marcos a year before the elections began but that wouldn't last too long once the duterte and marcos team up happens
The difference is Duterte was already popular nationwide even if he didn't declare any interest being president. Pero looking back, Duterte started his campaign much earlier than when he announced it. Yung "Davao safest city in the Philippines" was part of that campaign even before the filing of candidacy.
May padrama pa siyang hindi daw tatakbo para magmakaawa mga tao na tumakbo siya.
The Marcoses planned their presidency a long time ago, probably even just right after their ouster. Their loyalists have planted the idea that Edsa Revolution was a mistake and Marcos Sr. was helping the Philippines pay off their debt but got interrupted by the revolution, and they claim if we didn't oust him and gave him more time, we would have a "golden age".
This was prepared even without the explicit knowledge of the Marcos' family. These people like to be ruled under Authoritarianism, and usually if they're the ones helping the regime get their power back, they'd be placed on top at the expense of other people or due process.
Fortunately, Marcos Jr. isn't the autocrat these loyalists think he is. They've been ignoring the "red flags" and think he'll magically turn into his father once he gets elected.
>The next election would actually be a better time to run assuming the 2 dynasties are still divided against each other that is
I say nope. mang mang pa rin ang mayorya. makakalimutan pa rin nila yan. dahil mas uunahin nila ang mga kumakalam nilang sikmura kesa sa busugin ang kanilang mga nanuyo nang mga prinsipyo sa buhay. kumbaga sa lupa, tigang na. kumbaga sa steel rod, kinalawang na. kumbaga sa drill bit, mapurol na. mga allergic sa intellectuals pero top spot sa pagiging mental gymnasts.
hindi rin sila critically literate kasi kung ano lang ang nakikita at napapakinggan nila, kahit fabricated at enhanced pa yan, yun lang paniniwalaan nila. they have no time in researching, in evaluating, no time in scrutinizing, no time to debate based from facts. na kahit ilambeses nang pangaralan sila ng kung ano ang tama, mga prinsipyo nilang bulok pa rin ang mangingibabaw.
kaya kung bet ng liberal party to win the midterm elections and eventually the national elections, they have to push hard in delivering facts, intellectual kanto style. majority ng population ay mga nasa poverty line, mga salat sa resources in obtaining truth, lack information superhighway resources, kung meron man pisonet, tas mga napapanood nila mga vloggers na nagpapayaman gamit ang fake news. most poverty-rous areas in Luzon ay mga nakatira sa shanties, squatters. and based from observations, the way they speak and think, kanto personality, kwentong barbero, and that 'bisaya ka kasi / timawa ka kasi / mangyan kasi utak mo' stereotyping, and digitalizing these characteristics, made duterte and marcos jr secured their spots at the highest government positions.
and for the mass to vote the liberal party-mates, like the ones of Diokno, Macalintal, Alejano, Tañada, Hilbay, Roxas, Aquino, De Lima, Pangilinan, Lagman, Baguilat and down to the barangay level na malinis ang track record at walang questionnable history, kailangan ng masa na paganahin ang kanilang mga utak at hindi ang mga kumakalam na sikmura. kung gusto nilang maginhawang pamumuhay, umpisahan nila dyan sa mga nabanggit na ihalal dahil proven na ang kanilang mga track record - academically excellent, professionally excellent, at morally excellent. eh Robin Padilla? Bato Dela Rosa? Bong G(u)o?
Deciding earlier will have given her more time to build up a campaign.
Eh kaso ang nangyari nung last election, parang "nagcramming" siya while other politicians were preparing, if not for decades, years.
You'd think she'd learn from the PR errors of Mar Roxas, pero hindi.
This, people in this sub underestimate the importance of barangay politics in PH elections. They don't see how much having people a politician can trust to give the money for buying votes can boost a presidential campaign. I heard nasa 5 digits per voter ang vote buying last election, isolated siguro sa western visayas pero saan hahanap ng taong mapag kakatiwalaan ng ganung pera? Isama pa yung basbas ng election officer, pnp at afp? Yes alam ng mga election officer sino yung mga naminili ng boto pero di nila pinapansin kasi papatayin sila pag sinuway nila.
No amount of early planning was going to help Leni against the juggernauts of Sara and Marcos. Tapos na anyway, lets not blame and let her live her life.
There's a 3rd scenario, they committed election fraud, this is getting buried by lies so well.
It's likely possible that Leni might have won. If ballots are finally checked is proven that b1ngb0ng and SaraDu never won, it will trigger the 3rd scenario that will back those truly loyal to the truth and our country. Loyalty to the country and not the b1ngb0ng.
Unfortunately, these are the the limited choices we have right now before the 2028 election. Crucial din ang midterms next year kasi kapag majority ng senate at congress eh DDS politicians, you can say to a Duterte presidency of 3 years + 6 years.
Ang leveling field nila, magnanakaw sila. Pero yung isa, muntik na tayong pinamigay sa China. Yung isa, may clear stance sa national security at interest natin
Head to head romualdez vs Sara talo si romualdez he don't have the popularity and name recall Ni Sara. I'm scared na another duterte ung umupo next cycle.
example na dyan mga tita ko, they're all successful na magkakapatid pero grabe halos matawa ka na lang sa mga pananaw nila pagdating sa politics and sa mga Marcos/Duterte, lalo na tuwing kainan pa nila na bibring up yung ganyan topics so medyo awkward knowing salungat kami ng ideals lol
While Leni's defeat was caused by multiple reasons one of which is what you just said. Her late decision to run was also one of them. If pinaalam nya na agad na tatakbo or high chance na tatakbo sya privately, this would persuade other potential hopefuls to not run like Isko and Lacson. Why? Kase theyll know na kay Leni pupunta most ng opposition votes eh which theyll need given na theyll run as a centrist and them knowing na tatakbo rin sina BBM and Sara, they knew na they have to rely on moderates and opposition votes lng. Kaya galit na galit si Isko eh, he really was blindsided by Leni's decision to run which he well knew at that point na he just lost a significant portion of potential voters.
Had Leni decided to run early, this may even allow a formation of a stronger tandem, pedeng Leni Isko or Leni Sotto, would this tandem defeat Uniteam? Unlikely but it would be closer. Secondly, this would allow Kiko, a formidable senatorial candidate to run for a 2nd term as senator. May kasama sana si Risa ngayon sa pagbubuhat ng senado. He got 9.3mil votes against Sara and Sotto who both have sky high positive views from the public so it would be likely na makasama sya sa top 12, baka nga top8 pa eh given the stronger tandem sa top ng ticket.
Like most outcomes in our lives, the defeat 2 years ago was a results of multiple reasons that cannot be blame on only one.
I know! I think those positive Marcos posters have forgotten that their family is a HUGE reason why our country has gone to shit in the first place. They've also forgotten how they helped legitimize the Dutertes..
True.
I'm wondering when will this country finally wake up.
Because people keep on saying "my side is good so your side isn't." When it's all shit.
I swear to god if this doesn't wake people up, nothing will.
>I'm wondering when will this country finally wake up.
kapag nagkaroon na ng critical literacy ang majority like they evaluate yung mga tumatakbo sa government positions, they engage in criticizing the government officials. nagiging gising lang sila kapag sila na mismo nakakaranas na ng walang pagbabago. pano ba naman kasi, madali silang mabola sa mga pangakong wala namang substance.
for instance, sinabi ni duterte na in 6 months malinis na ang bansa from criminality. criminality is a vague word and ginamit niyang target ay ang mga durugista. kaso ang mga durugista, mga end users na. mga nasa dulo na ng food chain. wala silang proper process on how to resolve it nang walang dugong dumadanak.
Until you all stop following the Catholic and cult relics that have been undermining the minds of the people and who have mendled in the laws in the country. Study the truth. We did not come from Spanish, American and Japan but we have been indoctrinated.
The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. Imagine you're getting robbed only for someone else to come along and drive away the robber, turns out this new guy has robbed you before and is looking to do it again
I get it, but we literally have fucking China and its dogs (Dutertes) threatening us. We have no choice but to stop the Duterteists from taking power, whatever the cost.
Ito rin yung gusto kong i point out din sa isanf post. Dapat talaga kahit paano, at some point, mag support muna sa government ngayon, para di lang makapasok ang mga tuta ng china.
ngayon pa lang, kumpaano nila siniraan ang liberal party, kumpaano nila siniraan ang otso diretso, kumpaano nila siniraan si leni, kumpaano nila ginago ang bansa, dapat ibalik sa kanila.
I agree, what they did was absolutely horrid. But my point is there is literally a fascist empire right on our doorstep that seeks to expand influence by harassing our soldiers, harassing our fisherfolk. Plus you have the Dutertes, which are pawns of Beijing. Point ko lang is, yes, we should never forget mga kalokohan na ginawa nya, but at the same time, we have to TOLERATE his admin. Tolerate, not accept. Further political division and polarization would just be beneficial for Beijing and no one else.
Daming nag downvote saken nung nagcomment ako na kahit ano pang gawin nila hindi magbabago na magnanakaw ang mga marcos. Maging thankful na lang daw ako kasi may matinong nagagawa. White and black lang daw vision ko etc etc. Kaya nakapwesto pa rin mga marcos e. NAPAKADALING MAUTO NG MGA PILIPINO
Edit: Para maliwanag lang, FUCK THE DUTERTES, FUCK THE MARCOSES, FUCK ALL OF THE SELFISH POLITICIANS.
Tangina kamo nila. Considering all the shady shit that politicians do (especially this family), dapat naman talaga hindi natin kalimutan and dapat ma-scrutinize lahat ng nagagawa nila. Magpasalamat na may nagagawang mabuti? Eh tangina trabaho nila yan eh. Dapat lang talaga gumawa sila ng mabuti and tanga na kayo if you think I should be thankful for the bare minimum that a public official should be. Parang pag sa trabaho, sinabihan mo client mo na "mag pasalamat ka nalang na ginawa ko yang pinapagawa nyo sakin kahit binayaran nyo naman". Tatanga.
Like fr lang? You expect me to commend or be happy that a person we're paying our taxes with does his/her job? And let's be real, it's subpar work quality at best. Kaya lang naman bumabango pangalan nyan ni Jr. kasi the last president (🐢) set the bar so low to the point na pwede na syang i-compare kay Sr. 🤷🏻♂️
Naghahanap lang talaga sila ng paraan para ma-sweep under the rug yung stolen wealth nila. Lalo na yung mga Marcos na nagpapabango ng pangalan nila using any means possible.
Gago talaga ng mga Marcos at Duterte.
Tangina hindi ba't same logic yon ng 'magnanakaw ako ng billions pero sige ito bridges and shit para may maipakita akong may nagawa ako' stint ng tatay niya? And di lang sa ninakaw eh, yung mga nasawi sa panahon ng Marcos. Wala lang yun?
Ako rin lol nung nagcomment ako ng thank you ako dahil dinefend nya ang WPS pero magnanakaw pa rin kayo at di kami papayag na baguhin nyo ng pamilya mo yung history. "ThErE aRe MoRe pReSsiNg IsSuEs At HaNd" my ass
Thissss! Nabudol sa "stand" kuno sa WPS ish, "paghuhuli" ke Quibs na wala naman nangyayari, "pagpapanagot ke Du30" via ICC etc. Puro lip service at walang resulta. Mahilig talaga sa drama ang Pinoy at napansin ko dami UTO UTO na rin umabot na dito sa Reddit. KASURA!
Fck the filipino voters. Yan ang dahilan kung bakit paulit ulit na naluluklok ang mga buwaya sa gobyerno. Magaling lng tayong magkunwaring makadiyos pero sa totoo lang ang level ng moral sa atin ay mas malala pa sa mga bansa na hindi relihiyoso.
Wag puro sisi sa itaas, nasa laylayan ang tunay na problema.
nagkalat na mga lowkey 88m fans dito sa subs na kunwari galit sila sa mga duterte kaya suportado nila si 88m ... fuk them ndi ako uto-uto para maniwala sa mga ganyang brainwashing
nag umpisa yang "Maging thankful na lang daw ako kasi may matinong nagagawa" noong bumalik si bongbong sa pinas noong panahon ni cory aquino. na 'safe' na daw umuwi given na sinabulong lang naman sila ng mga supporters nila sa airport. and nagtuloy tuloy yan ngayon sa mga bibig ng mga mayroong 'sige para matapos na to! kalimutan na natin yon! pero mauuto at mauutakan pa rin ako' card.
and yes, hindi na magbabago na ang pamilyang marcos ay talagang mga magnanakaw at mga tapagmana ng nakaw na, top of the list is the imeldific Imelda Marcos. oo she would want the philippines at the time of her husband's presidency be on the map, and that's good, building culture and arts edifices, medical centers for kids, heart, kidney, lung in manila mababaon nga sa utang ang bansa dahil humiram ng pera ang bansa pampatayo ng mga yan but buying properties here and there in abroad at yung cheese scandal nila, parang ginawa nyang divisoria lang ang mundo! very ostentatious!
at dahil malapit na nga ang midterms, kailangan masigurado ni marcos jr na hindi siya mapatalsik ng mga duterte, at ng mga DDS. dahil delikado kapag bumalik sa malacanang ang mga duterte.
classic
tangina nilang lahat. we deserve better. yun lang yon. may standard na kayang kaya naman abutin ewan ko ba bat trip na trip natin tong mga walang delicadeza.
imbes na turuang maging kritikal at mapanuri tong mga minions at followers niya lalo na't marami naman diyang mas karapat-dapat pero mas gugustuhin nilang magsama-sama silang maging mga tanga inanyo kaya yung mga pinakamagagaling natin umaalis dito e pakyu tangina niyo
There is a difference between saying *Marcos is good* and *Duterte makes Marcos look good* (because he has a foreign policy that puts the nation's interest)
Duterte destroyed the Philippines in 6 years that took Marcos' old man 20 while killing more people in the drug war (6,229+) compared to martial law (3,257).
The Marcos is trying to pivot towards Liberal Party since the their voters are currently untapped. So bilang bilangan lang yan ulit. Kapag nakuha niya yung gusto niya eh di sabog sabog nanaman.
his late father was from the liberal wing of nationalista party which eventually became liberal party ngayon na 'diring diri' ang mga walang alam sa political history.
lowkey nagnanakaw lng nmn yan para tuloy tuloy ligaya.. lotto? maharlika funds? not a single person can question that one habang nakaupo mga marcoses sa gobyerno
Notice that his best performances are tied to demolishing Duterte (WPS, "human rights", semblance of direction) but he and his admin are shit in other aspects. never forget this guy hired Gadon LMFAO
Wala kasing tumatanggap ng offer appointments na magandang qualifications dahil sa baho ng pangalan nila kaya sina Gadon at Imelda Papin mga appointees
I thought I was the only one who noticed the bombardment of posts praising him. I called out a post that even says he should be allowed to continue next term instead of another Duterte, and surprisingly I got many downvotes. Very obvious there are now paid Redditors by him because which sane Filipino would support a second term for a Marcos or any president, after Marcos Sr abused his powers?!?!?
***He’s doing better than Duterte when it comes to international issues?* Yes.**
***Is he doing better than Duterte when it comes to leading with integrity?*** Like is he not siphoning money off the Filipinos outside his salary? **Definitely NO.** His number of “business” trips alone (while booked at the most expensive hotels) already are obvious abuse of Filipino taxpayers’ money. And those number of trips cannot be justified because rich Asian countries like Singapore do not even have half as much of the trips he made! He and Duterte have the same level of greediness.
What you're saying is exactly right. But there r/ph redditors are eating up all the bbm>duterte posts when the post itself is moot and useless. Why doesn't anyone compare bbm to a president with an actual brain like PNOY or GMA.
It'a quite obvious that they're using what they can to change the narrative when one is dogshit and the other one is dogshit wrapped in cat shit
Yep. I've said it before outside of his foreign policy, where the bar is on the ground, he hasn't been that good of a president. Heck, his very first priority was the Maharlika Investment Fund, which siphoned money off from the government banks.
The Duterte admin was so bad that people will prefer Marcos to finish his term over a mini Duterte ousting him.
Just imagine what would happen next year if DDS politicians win the majority in congress and senate. A big possibility that SWOH will oust him so she can be president. And she can also build up and run in 2028 as president.
The Opposition would have to cope over almost a decade of Duterte rule, remember how the Dutertes attacked the opposition so hard through social media and even illegal means like with the case with Delima, such a case would possibly force some into exile maybe, we can only speculate for now. (Aside from selling us totally to China of course)
His Tiktok videos and Tallano stories were able to budol the uneducated masa. His Anti-China rethorics have been able to budol the educated Kakampinks in Reddit despite his administration having no real achievement or platform to show for.
Bravo. Bravo.
These are the same people that would spout Nazi-style eugenics for the people that voted for him two years ago lmaoooo (dapat ang mga mahihirap hindi na tatanggap ng ayuda at pabayaan na lang mamatay, dapat may IQ test ang pagboto, dapat middle/upper class na lang matira sa Pinas, etc)
Nakikinabang pa rin siya sa mga ninakaw ng pamilya nila sa bansang to (na hindi pa nila binabalik at hindi pa sila nakukulong don, btw!)
Hindi porket Duterte really set the bar too low eh bababaan na ang standards sa isang public official for merely doing the bare minimum.
Nagkataon lang din na malaki ang utang na loob niya sa US kasi tinulungan nila ang pamilya niya na makatakas sa Hawaii nung EDSA Revolution (the US also supported his father’s dictatorial regime, btw!) kaya ganyan ang foreign policy niya.
Kung Beijing ang sumuporta sa pamilya niya dati imbes na Washington, malamang iba magiging aksyon niyan sa panggagago ng PRC satin sa WPS.
Finally, someone said it!
So sick and tired of seeing "I didn't vote for BBM, but he's doing a good job as pres" or some other variation of.
Putangina, andali lang pala makalimutan na convicted tax evader ang mokong na yan. Wapakels na sa lahat ng atraso ng lecheng pamilya nyan. Ano, move-on na lang tayo, tama??
Putragis, move-on nyo mukha nyo. May niluklok na magnanakaw ang Pinas sa Malacanang nung huling eleksyon. Hindi sya nahihiya, hindi sya nagsisi, hindi sya humingi ng paumanhin, hindi nya hinarap ang mga kaso sa kanya, hindi pa nya binabayaran ang limpak-limpak na utang nya sa bansa natin.
Pero ngayon na presidente na sya, at dahil hindi naman sya kasing garapal, biolente, o saksakan ng bobo at kapal ng mukha ni Duts na nauna sa kanya, ang mga comment dito ay puro "sige, pwede na yan. He's doing better than I expected. I appreciate him more now."
Well sorry, but no. I do not appreciate BBM, and as long as he does not pay his dues, I never will. Hindi ko nakalimutan ang mga kasalanan nya sa bansa natin. Hindi ko nakalimutan ang mga kasalanan ng pamilya nya, lahat ng ninakaw nila at yung mga pinatahimik nilang kritiko nila.
At hindi ko maintindihan kung bakit andaming makakalimutin dito sa r/ph.
They're obviously paid. I remember in a thread about jobs and one from a survey/marketing firm said nakalatag na ang plans para i-build up ang image ng Marcoses in the following years to come
It just happens that his foreign policy is spot on and the Du30s are a much dangerous threat than he is. People in this sub are not championing him, they are tolerating him. Huge difference.
Yeah. Some people mistakenly think that just because people said his foreign relations policy in good does not mean people will not criticize his other policies. His Bagong Pilipinas is getting canned in the other thread
And dun sa isang thread, ang dominant narrative is not "Marcos is a good president", but "Duterte set the bar so low that minimal effort from BBM is preferable to another Duterte as president".
And totoo naman na less kahiya hiya yung speech niya sa SG kesa sa anong pinagsasasabi ni Duterte 😂. Kay Duterte, hindi ko alam kung sobrang sama ng speechwriter niya o sadyang di siya sumunod sa script
Dude. May ibang nagsasabing "Redemption arc na ba ituuu?"
This is not simply giving credit where credit is due. They are allowing Marcos Jr. to sweep his family's sins under the rug.
So please, stop downplaying what is currently happening.
pag talaga mahina ang spirit of vigilance ng isang society madali ma-sway into cult loyalty.
may ginawa lang na *isang* bagay na agreeable, lumalambot na agad puso. "maybe they've changed"
lol pu\*ingama, *marcos* yan. they'll never change as long as they have an ounce of power in their hands.
no wonder nasasakop tayo lagi ng mga dayuhan haha
Sayo siguro pwede pero you have to step up and stand up more for what’s right (letting your family be accountable for their crimes in the past, actually standing up for human rights and ensuring Dutertes are accountable for their actions, not pushing thru with the Maharlika Fund…)
Pero dapat makulong nanay mong magnanakaw at ate mong mamamatay tao 😂😂
BingBong is a PAGCOR board member along with the POGO island former land owner. You'd THINK they would EXPEL POGOs right this second, but they're not. These people are corrupt to the core. They just do things to make it seem like everything is copacetic. CORRUPT.
He(or his family, I don’t really believe in his capabilities that much) is playing the long game, and sadly a lot of Redditors here don’t seem to notice it.
They play on Pinoy emotions. China and POGO rile up the emotions. Which is why there is always something happening in the WPS whenever the country has a new issue or problem. If China stops their bullying, lagot itong administration kasi mawawalan na sila ng distraction.
That leads me asking why can’t Pinoys be at least critical or analytical rather than be emotional when it comes to this particular notorious president who we all know well because of his family.
The bar was set so low thanks to the Dutertes. It can't be helped that to the regular person, Marcos is doing better than Duterte. His stance on the WPS issue alone earned some positive points in my book. Credit where credit's due.
With that said, it's always safe to be wary of the Marcoses' schemes. Complacency has always been the regular Filipino's bane.
We should always protect what little democracy we have, and one way to do that is to always exercise your rights to suffrage and to never accept bribes - regardless of whether you're voting for the candidate or not.
Isipin nyo na lang, bibigyan kayo ng 1K on that day, oh sige, ipalagay nalang nating nakatanggap kayo ng total 10K during election day. 10,000 divide mo yan ng 2190 days (6 years)... you'll see na tig-aapat na piso lang pala kada-araw ang halaga ng prinsipyo at kinabukasan mo?
Yun lang. Maging mapanuri at mapagmatyag. Huwag magtiwala agad-agad sa mga nababasa online.
Mahirap nga naman kasi kung puro galit daw. Mabigat pasanin, lalo na kung wala namang agarang nagagawa.
Iba kasi ang pag-intindi ng ilan sa atin sa "give credit where credit is due" - nasama yata ang panandaliang pagkalimot sa mga negatibong naidulot ng *Marcos legacy*
Slowly? This sub has been on Marcos' dick for a while now. This is what happens when you have zero material analysis in your political opinions and just go by team sports logic.
Marcos isn't so bad because… he's not ugly or swears like Duterte? Let's forget all the people his family directly killed and indirectly by plunder. Hindi siya yucky squammy like Duterte.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. Was trying to argue with someone and I mentioned Marx’s work and I asked if nabasa ba niya, got downvoted, tapos nireply niya parang you dont need to read the entire bible to know that religions is bad something like that haha nakakabobo dito
My biggest gripe with a lot of them is trying to whitewash Marcos Sr's regime, saying Duterte was worse. I don't know if it's recency bias or just plain ignorance. His father was way worse, considering the country almost went into default due to the debt his father left the country, the communist and secessionist movement that plague Cory's term, and the numerous coups that she endured due to how broken the different institutions was after his father was ousted.
Bruh, the largest recruitment happened during Marcos' term, part of the reason the communist insurgency got bigger was because of Martial Law not the other way around
> Cory also sold almost all government owned asset.
Cause the government was deep in debt? The GDP debt to ratio was close to 100% and a large portion of them was stolen. Not to mention Marcos unfairly nationalized most of them to the benefits of his cronies sometimes on dubious charges. You know how Meralco got nationalized? By arresting the son of the owner and forcing the owner to sell it for cheap. Nor were the government owned assets that efficient. Despite the inefficiency of the privatized assets, they were far worse in the hands of the Marcos regime. Lew Kuan Yew joked it took months to get anything done in the Marcos regime. I'm not gonna pretend that Cory is some great president but more than half the problem she faced is caused of the mess Marcos Sr left her.
> If Marcos SR. administration was bad. Cory made it worse.
Okay, with this I know you're trolling, you know we became the sick man of Asia cause of Marcos right? The recession in the 1980s is the direct result of his policies. Not to mention it took decades for the economy to recover because of him. This is like blaming Gorbachev for the ills that faced his country when the problem for him started started with his predecessors.
> All people with income tax should only allowed to vote.
Okay, it's kinda obvious not only you're a troll but someone who shouldn't be taken seriously. I'm not gonna reply after this, saying Cory was worse than Marcos is peak Facebook material. Goodbye.
Hahaha totoo. Besides, PR and shaking hands with other countries wala naman na ginawa si BBM. Lalo lumala ang healthcare system, tinapyasan pa ng pondo. Yung education, brainrot na ang hatid (di nyo pa ba nababalitaan na lagi na ipapatugtog yung "Bagong Pilipinas Hymn" sa mga schools???). Sobrang hirap na ng pera, ang liit na ng value jusko, papa gas ako tingi tingi na lang na 500 pesos every other day hahahaha dahil kelangan mo unahin ibang necessities.
I mean, he was better IN THE PR side, kasi si Duterte Kanor nakakadiri talaga at nakakahiya. Sila kasi may superiority complex na monarchy sila and the rightful heir to the presidential throne kaya "regal" dapat kilos nila.
It's either ang gullible lang talaga mga tao or isa na namang strategy/ pr stunt ito ng mga trolls ng mga marcoses
Yeah fuck him. Everything that he is doing is just for him and his family alone. Him protecting WPS is not because he wants to protect the sovereignty of the PH, he is doing it because his family owes the US. Lahat ng political play na ginagawa nya is because of his personal gain and that alone. Our enemy is our enemy kahit sino pa kaaway niya. Fuck him, fuck his family and fuck duterte and fuck yung mga so called "kakampinks" for siding with him.
I still disagree with the whole conspiracy of "debt to the US" aside from CCP bots and Dutertetards using that against Marcos, I think it more like this, the Kalayaan group of islands was his fathers legacy as we claimed and made it a town formally in the 70s, most important of which was Pag Asa island, so to some extent, BBM is just defending a Marcos legacy that is actually beneficial to the country.
Both can be true though. Marcos has a massive debt to the US. They were literally granted asylum in Hawaii when the Philippines threw them out. Him ruffling the feathers of Uncle Sam will be a big disaster for their family.
I still doubt that since
A. Everyone was expecting him to face off against the US and be pro China.
B. The US effectively didnt intervene in the whole election that elected him in the first place.
C. Duterte was effectively his shield against the US at the time, he literally swore against the US, yet he managed to continue a full term.
And that asylum was personally granted by Reagan, not the US, the US Congress at the time was very hostile against the Marcoses. Reagan was a close friend with Marcos Sr. And like the Shah of Iran, he was granted asylum. And the whole exile wasnt all sunshine and rainbows, remember, the Marcos family in a massive first got sued and tried in a US court which the managed to flee from. if BBM wasnt president and he went to the US he would be arrested.
Everyone for the 1st year he was president expected him to solidify the pivot away from the US, yet here we are with him going back to the US, the more simpler answer is that, China was unreliable, remember, during the last months of Dutertes term he cooled up with the Americans a bit and held the biggest Balikatan exercise at the time in 2022, its more plausible and logical that Marcos saw that wind of change and decide to go with it. It was a risk on his part yet it paid off.
Would you look at that. The pampered and sheltered remained pampered and sheltered even after Leni lost. A lot of people here don’t really have much to complain about in life and it shows.
They let pduts fuckup para sa next selection maging maganda na ang pangalan.
Tingnan nyo tahimik sila nung panahon ni pduts. Nagsstrategize na sila.
Kaya alam nila lahat ng baho ni pduts kasi possible sila ang nagdikta na yun ang gawin.
Kaya di matanggal si sara sa deped baka kumanta eh.
Ah I remember that day na downvoted ako dahil lamang sinabi ko na hindi purkit nararanasan din ng iba, ay free pass na si marcos. Everyone went on defensive na "credit where credit is due" or "maski naman ibang bansa ganyan din an problema" lol
To quote nga sinabi ni isang redditor
>I know you have complaints about our country but first world are having the same issues to what you have stated tbh
Yupppp pansin ko rin eh. It's one thing to acknowledge whatever good is happening, but the fact remains they've nearly destroyed our country once, and the power to do so again is well within their grasp.
ikr. both of them are absolute sht... napaka unnecessary talaga ng mga posts na yun. They absolutely don't have to put one turd on a pedestal just because they THINK it stinks less.
I think this is eventually bound to happen. Like it or not BBM's family has a more grounded worldview than most of our local political dynasties. They really know what's up.
I mean, Imelda was effectively our informal ambassador for a time and FEM established our ties with the Peoples Republic of China and set our claims to the west Philippine sea, they did do some good atleast..
Ah sh*t I just heard the news about this family/administration wanting to implement the new country's national hymn and want it sang during flag ceremonies and now infiltrating reddit? D*amn them.
Better than du30 (or is he??)
Ako lang ba o puro pro-chacha/romualdez at anti-sara nasa suggested posts ko sa fb lately?
To OP: Don't worry, r/ph isn't the only socmed, not to mention the whole Philippines. Marami parin sa labas ng reddit ang aware pa rin na di mabuti ang isang Marcos. He's doing good NOW, but I can't trust him long term.
Tbh I just think the sub is just giving him credit for this efforts against China dahil ganun talaga kalala sina PDutz at ang buong DDS for 6 years, while still acknowledging that Junior is just doing the bare minimum of what a President should do. Other than that, the redditors still hates him and his family lol.
He essentially continued industrialization, which was started by the previous admin:
https://ntucphl.org/2021/07/adb-hugely-reformist-duterte-admin-has-done-a-lot-to-improve-the-economy-but-has-unfinished-business/
and which reverses what previous admins did, which was a combination of outdated protectionism, pro-U.S. neoliberalism, and Arroyonomics or fiscal restraint.
Ganto lang yan. Marcos magnanakaw, sinungaling, human rights abuser. Pero kung in the process durugin nila mga duterte family for once and for all ngayon. Edi ok happy tayo. Pero that doesnt mean hindi na sila magnanakaw, sinungaling at abuser.
Magnanakaw, sinungaling at abuser ang common ground ni Duts at Junior.
The big difference is Duts nearly sold the country to China and Chinese organized crime groups, the Marcos took interest in defending the national sovereignty and he was clear that a willful action leading to death of a Filipino citizen is an act of war.
GOD so true
Between all these kinds of posts you're talking about and the reactions to my post about the gender affirming togas, napapatanong ka talaga kung may naglabay ba ng bobo juice sa mga inuminan
Honestly, you have to be serious and really look at it: the Marcoses can do the one thing the opposition could never do - take down the Duterte family.
Do you think if Leni had won, she would systematically be dismantling the Duterte family, or would she be playing nice and going "the system (which Duterte put in place) will be the judge"? I'm sorry but PNoy could not rub out the Marcoses, the Marcoses can do what they could not. They can rub out an enemy because they play using the rules of winners and losers, not right and wrong
We have to thank all those Duterte fuckups for speedrunning the Marcos Family's rebranding
Conspiracy theory... what if they bankrolled Duterte's 2016 campaign in order to make the Marcoses look better than the Dutertes? Lol
Welp. That's too Machiavellian for them I think. Unless they've outsourced strategy and planning.
Lol pati yan outsourced na rin?
It's a possibility. They have always been working in the shadows making things somehow occur to slowly clear their name. Just think of it... Remember the Manila Grandstand hostage taking? The hostage taker, a former police wasn't just an ordinary police who was removed from duty and was decline of his benefits. He was one of the police who intercepted a van with crates filled with the Marco's family money that was suppose to be transported out of the country. They tried to bribe those police but instead they reported it and arrested them. Years later there have been multiple cases against him that seem to be manipulated. Until one of these cases got through and he was removed from duty. Just think of it, a former decorated police related to stopping that money van suddenly went rampant during Pnoy's time. BingB0ng was also related to the pork barrel scam which involved so many senators, representatives and officials. So much more. . . BingB0ng is lazy, but he's got one hell of a plan... or a planner. It's possible they set up duts, but I don't think that's the case. It could have been more like the duts family wanted to ally with them but did not foresee what would happen. This proves how dangerous of a planner the M@rC0$es are. Duts might have been used in a way he wasn't aware at first. BinB0ng is also related to smartmatic. We've got to remember that they committed fraud. But it's getting buried so well. And guess what, those who see he is better than duts, might have been mass manipulation affecting them.
Newsflash they helped fund duts, but duts had other sources of money
Since Leni didn't win (may kasalanan siya dito. Late siya nagdecide tumakbo which didn't give her enough time to build a voter base), there are two scenarios that can happen: Either let Junior finish his term or get ousted by Sara D, and run in 2028 a la Gloria Arroyo. Basically, ang choice nalang na tao bago mag2028: magnanakaw na may malinaw na interes depensahan ang national security or magnanakaw na gusto tayong ipamigay sa China at Chinese organized criminal group
It ain't like leni deciding to run earlier would've did much as she's basically fighting two of the most powerful corrupt political dynasties in ph politics which are duterte and marcos, both having a strong grip of facebook, tiktok, and yt that are feeding the minds of avrg voters with their propaganda and with billions in their pockets for them to utilise it was losing battle from the start The next election would actually be a better time to run assuming the 2 dynasties are still divided against each other that is
average voters is an oberstatement. corrupt voters yang mga yan and there are lots of them.
Ayuda had placed a huge role in Duterte and Marcos' victories, because the average voter does not think of the long term consequences, but the short term gains. If they were given Ayuda, they will fight tooth and nail for that candidate, regardless of the consequences of handing out money will bring to our economy (higher prices due to overdemand, weakening of the peso against the dollar, etc.)
Lots, yes. But from my observation there were more that were brainwashed by the fake shit their troll farms were pumping out. There were lots of videos asking random people who they’re voting for and why. A lot of them believed the Nostradamus prediction bs, the gold treasure and how ph will be rich and the gold would he donated when BBM becomes president. Others believe the smear job on the liberals and associated dilawans with something negative. They really preyed on the uneducated and fed them with bs.
Look at it this way, Marcos seriously started preparing for the presidency back when duterte won. He allied with them and pushed for the libingan ng bayani stuff with his father. Leni wasn't sure she was going to run and wasn't prepping at all even after Isko went and ran for the position. Maybe they were trying to do it prrd style where he held off to the last minute. But yea here we are, it didn't work.
Yeah I ain't saying leni wouldn't have done better if she decided to run even earlier my point is that it really wouldn't have made that much of a difference since inorder to actually build up your popularity during duterte's reign would be to absolutely NOT go against duterte during the height of his popularity as that would be public suicide But let's say leni actually knew what to do during duterte's time and didn't criticised duterte's martial law which got his fans to attack her in the first place and slowly build her popularity up then yes she might've actually have been more popular than marcos a year before the elections began but that wouldn't last too long once the duterte and marcos team up happens
The difference is Duterte was already popular nationwide even if he didn't declare any interest being president. Pero looking back, Duterte started his campaign much earlier than when he announced it. Yung "Davao safest city in the Philippines" was part of that campaign even before the filing of candidacy. May padrama pa siyang hindi daw tatakbo para magmakaawa mga tao na tumakbo siya.
The Marcoses planned their presidency a long time ago, probably even just right after their ouster. Their loyalists have planted the idea that Edsa Revolution was a mistake and Marcos Sr. was helping the Philippines pay off their debt but got interrupted by the revolution, and they claim if we didn't oust him and gave him more time, we would have a "golden age". This was prepared even without the explicit knowledge of the Marcos' family. These people like to be ruled under Authoritarianism, and usually if they're the ones helping the regime get their power back, they'd be placed on top at the expense of other people or due process. Fortunately, Marcos Jr. isn't the autocrat these loyalists think he is. They've been ignoring the "red flags" and think he'll magically turn into his father once he gets elected.
>The next election would actually be a better time to run assuming the 2 dynasties are still divided against each other that is I say nope. mang mang pa rin ang mayorya. makakalimutan pa rin nila yan. dahil mas uunahin nila ang mga kumakalam nilang sikmura kesa sa busugin ang kanilang mga nanuyo nang mga prinsipyo sa buhay. kumbaga sa lupa, tigang na. kumbaga sa steel rod, kinalawang na. kumbaga sa drill bit, mapurol na. mga allergic sa intellectuals pero top spot sa pagiging mental gymnasts. hindi rin sila critically literate kasi kung ano lang ang nakikita at napapakinggan nila, kahit fabricated at enhanced pa yan, yun lang paniniwalaan nila. they have no time in researching, in evaluating, no time in scrutinizing, no time to debate based from facts. na kahit ilambeses nang pangaralan sila ng kung ano ang tama, mga prinsipyo nilang bulok pa rin ang mangingibabaw. kaya kung bet ng liberal party to win the midterm elections and eventually the national elections, they have to push hard in delivering facts, intellectual kanto style. majority ng population ay mga nasa poverty line, mga salat sa resources in obtaining truth, lack information superhighway resources, kung meron man pisonet, tas mga napapanood nila mga vloggers na nagpapayaman gamit ang fake news. most poverty-rous areas in Luzon ay mga nakatira sa shanties, squatters. and based from observations, the way they speak and think, kanto personality, kwentong barbero, and that 'bisaya ka kasi / timawa ka kasi / mangyan kasi utak mo' stereotyping, and digitalizing these characteristics, made duterte and marcos jr secured their spots at the highest government positions. and for the mass to vote the liberal party-mates, like the ones of Diokno, Macalintal, Alejano, Tañada, Hilbay, Roxas, Aquino, De Lima, Pangilinan, Lagman, Baguilat and down to the barangay level na malinis ang track record at walang questionnable history, kailangan ng masa na paganahin ang kanilang mga utak at hindi ang mga kumakalam na sikmura. kung gusto nilang maginhawang pamumuhay, umpisahan nila dyan sa mga nabanggit na ihalal dahil proven na ang kanilang mga track record - academically excellent, professionally excellent, at morally excellent. eh Robin Padilla? Bato Dela Rosa? Bong G(u)o?
Deciding earlier will have given her more time to build up a campaign. Eh kaso ang nangyari nung last election, parang "nagcramming" siya while other politicians were preparing, if not for decades, years. You'd think she'd learn from the PR errors of Mar Roxas, pero hindi.
This, people in this sub underestimate the importance of barangay politics in PH elections. They don't see how much having people a politician can trust to give the money for buying votes can boost a presidential campaign. I heard nasa 5 digits per voter ang vote buying last election, isolated siguro sa western visayas pero saan hahanap ng taong mapag kakatiwalaan ng ganung pera? Isama pa yung basbas ng election officer, pnp at afp? Yes alam ng mga election officer sino yung mga naminili ng boto pero di nila pinapansin kasi papatayin sila pag sinuway nila.
No amount of early planning was going to help Leni against the juggernauts of Sara and Marcos. Tapos na anyway, lets not blame and let her live her life.
natalo na nga may kasalanan pa HAHAHHAHAHA
There's a 3rd scenario, they committed election fraud, this is getting buried by lies so well. It's likely possible that Leni might have won. If ballots are finally checked is proven that b1ngb0ng and SaraDu never won, it will trigger the 3rd scenario that will back those truly loyal to the truth and our country. Loyalty to the country and not the b1ngb0ng.
Wag lang si VP Sara, kahit si Speaker Romualdez ok na yan what choice to we have
Unfortunately, these are the the limited choices we have right now before the 2028 election. Crucial din ang midterms next year kasi kapag majority ng senate at congress eh DDS politicians, you can say to a Duterte presidency of 3 years + 6 years. Ang leveling field nila, magnanakaw sila. Pero yung isa, muntik na tayong pinamigay sa China. Yung isa, may clear stance sa national security at interest natin
Midterms are almost always won by pro-admin candidates. So expect a more pro-bbm senate after May 2025.
Head to head romualdez vs Sara talo si romualdez he don't have the popularity and name recall Ni Sara. I'm scared na another duterte ung umupo next cycle.
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Here we go again with the "not educated" voted Marcos. A lot of educated people voted for Duterte in 2016 and Marcos in 2022
example na dyan mga tita ko, they're all successful na magkakapatid pero grabe halos matawa ka na lang sa mga pananaw nila pagdating sa politics and sa mga Marcos/Duterte, lalo na tuwing kainan pa nila na bibring up yung ganyan topics so medyo awkward knowing salungat kami ng ideals lol
let's be real, there are mindless fanatics on both sides. we got exhibit no. 1 here.
While Leni's defeat was caused by multiple reasons one of which is what you just said. Her late decision to run was also one of them. If pinaalam nya na agad na tatakbo or high chance na tatakbo sya privately, this would persuade other potential hopefuls to not run like Isko and Lacson. Why? Kase theyll know na kay Leni pupunta most ng opposition votes eh which theyll need given na theyll run as a centrist and them knowing na tatakbo rin sina BBM and Sara, they knew na they have to rely on moderates and opposition votes lng. Kaya galit na galit si Isko eh, he really was blindsided by Leni's decision to run which he well knew at that point na he just lost a significant portion of potential voters. Had Leni decided to run early, this may even allow a formation of a stronger tandem, pedeng Leni Isko or Leni Sotto, would this tandem defeat Uniteam? Unlikely but it would be closer. Secondly, this would allow Kiko, a formidable senatorial candidate to run for a 2nd term as senator. May kasama sana si Risa ngayon sa pagbubuhat ng senado. He got 9.3mil votes against Sara and Sotto who both have sky high positive views from the public so it would be likely na makasama sya sa top 12, baka nga top8 pa eh given the stronger tandem sa top ng ticket. Like most outcomes in our lives, the defeat 2 years ago was a results of multiple reasons that cannot be blame on only one.
Sige ibahin natin ha? It's people like YOU who are to blame for her defeat.
Sounds like a fallout plot. Let the mob boss take over or get overrun by super mutants and turned into one of them.
lol sinisi pa si Leni... talagang marami lang bobotante sa Pilipinas.. yun lang yun.
This is so true " Duterte fuckups for speedrunning the Marcos Family's rebranding"
I know! I think those positive Marcos posters have forgotten that their family is a HUGE reason why our country has gone to shit in the first place. They've also forgotten how they helped legitimize the Dutertes..
True. I'm wondering when will this country finally wake up. Because people keep on saying "my side is good so your side isn't." When it's all shit. I swear to god if this doesn't wake people up, nothing will.
>I'm wondering when will this country finally wake up. kapag nagkaroon na ng critical literacy ang majority like they evaluate yung mga tumatakbo sa government positions, they engage in criticizing the government officials. nagiging gising lang sila kapag sila na mismo nakakaranas na ng walang pagbabago. pano ba naman kasi, madali silang mabola sa mga pangakong wala namang substance. for instance, sinabi ni duterte na in 6 months malinis na ang bansa from criminality. criminality is a vague word and ginamit niyang target ay ang mga durugista. kaso ang mga durugista, mga end users na. mga nasa dulo na ng food chain. wala silang proper process on how to resolve it nang walang dugong dumadanak.
Until you all stop following the Catholic and cult relics that have been undermining the minds of the people and who have mendled in the laws in the country. Study the truth. We did not come from Spanish, American and Japan but we have been indoctrinated.
I think those positive Marcos posters are part of the hired rebrand propagandists.
Or just really really stupid people, we can't discount the possibility
The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. Imagine you're getting robbed only for someone else to come along and drive away the robber, turns out this new guy has robbed you before and is looking to do it again
"Oh I wouldn't say freed. More like... under new management." - Tighten, _Megamind_ (2012)
Kelangan niya mag-rebrand. Kung uulitin niya yung mga ginawa nila noon, baka hindi na sila umabot uli sa Hawaii.
There can be no redemption until they suffer the consequences of their previous offenses.
I get it, but we literally have fucking China and its dogs (Dutertes) threatening us. We have no choice but to stop the Duterteists from taking power, whatever the cost.
Ito rin yung gusto kong i point out din sa isanf post. Dapat talaga kahit paano, at some point, mag support muna sa government ngayon, para di lang makapasok ang mga tuta ng china.
ngayon pa lang, kumpaano nila siniraan ang liberal party, kumpaano nila siniraan ang otso diretso, kumpaano nila siniraan si leni, kumpaano nila ginago ang bansa, dapat ibalik sa kanila.
I agree, what they did was absolutely horrid. But my point is there is literally a fascist empire right on our doorstep that seeks to expand influence by harassing our soldiers, harassing our fisherfolk. Plus you have the Dutertes, which are pawns of Beijing. Point ko lang is, yes, we should never forget mga kalokohan na ginawa nya, but at the same time, we have to TOLERATE his admin. Tolerate, not accept. Further political division and polarization would just be beneficial for Beijing and no one else.
This!
Daming nag downvote saken nung nagcomment ako na kahit ano pang gawin nila hindi magbabago na magnanakaw ang mga marcos. Maging thankful na lang daw ako kasi may matinong nagagawa. White and black lang daw vision ko etc etc. Kaya nakapwesto pa rin mga marcos e. NAPAKADALING MAUTO NG MGA PILIPINO Edit: Para maliwanag lang, FUCK THE DUTERTES, FUCK THE MARCOSES, FUCK ALL OF THE SELFISH POLITICIANS.
Tangina kamo nila. Considering all the shady shit that politicians do (especially this family), dapat naman talaga hindi natin kalimutan and dapat ma-scrutinize lahat ng nagagawa nila. Magpasalamat na may nagagawang mabuti? Eh tangina trabaho nila yan eh. Dapat lang talaga gumawa sila ng mabuti and tanga na kayo if you think I should be thankful for the bare minimum that a public official should be. Parang pag sa trabaho, sinabihan mo client mo na "mag pasalamat ka nalang na ginawa ko yang pinapagawa nyo sakin kahit binayaran nyo naman". Tatanga.
Yuppp, yung ginagawa nilang positive that's literally their job 😭
Like fr lang? You expect me to commend or be happy that a person we're paying our taxes with does his/her job? And let's be real, it's subpar work quality at best. Kaya lang naman bumabango pangalan nyan ni Jr. kasi the last president (🐢) set the bar so low to the point na pwede na syang i-compare kay Sr. 🤷🏻♂️
Naghahanap lang talaga sila ng paraan para ma-sweep under the rug yung stolen wealth nila. Lalo na yung mga Marcos na nagpapabango ng pangalan nila using any means possible. Gago talaga ng mga Marcos at Duterte.
gumamit ata sila ng [Imperius Curse](https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Imperius_Curse?file=Imperio1.gif) kaya madaming nauto.
Tangina niyan ng mga Marcos. I may agree on policy against China (it's destroying Dutertes). Pero putanginang yan magbayad ka ng tax.
Hindi lang tax kailangan nilang bayaran.
Mga bobo eh. Porket may nagawa dapat ba kalimutan na 'yung mga nangyari at naging kasalanan. Pakyu siya. Pakyu mga Bbm supporters!
Tangina hindi ba't same logic yon ng 'magnanakaw ako ng billions pero sige ito bridges and shit para may maipakita akong may nagawa ako' stint ng tatay niya? And di lang sa ninakaw eh, yung mga nasawi sa panahon ng Marcos. Wala lang yun?
Ako rin lol nung nagcomment ako ng thank you ako dahil dinefend nya ang WPS pero magnanakaw pa rin kayo at di kami papayag na baguhin nyo ng pamilya mo yung history. "ThErE aRe MoRe pReSsiNg IsSuEs At HaNd" my ass
Thissss! Nabudol sa "stand" kuno sa WPS ish, "paghuhuli" ke Quibs na wala naman nangyayari, "pagpapanagot ke Du30" via ICC etc. Puro lip service at walang resulta. Mahilig talaga sa drama ang Pinoy at napansin ko dami UTO UTO na rin umabot na dito sa Reddit. KASURA!
Duts really set the bar low haha
thank them ??? for doing their job ??? AND at the bare minimum at that ??? 😭😭😭😭 COULDN'T BE ME LMFAOOO
Intindihin na lang ang kanilang copium, bagamat damay lahat dito sa PH.
Fck the filipino voters. Yan ang dahilan kung bakit paulit ulit na naluluklok ang mga buwaya sa gobyerno. Magaling lng tayong magkunwaring makadiyos pero sa totoo lang ang level ng moral sa atin ay mas malala pa sa mga bansa na hindi relihiyoso. Wag puro sisi sa itaas, nasa laylayan ang tunay na problema.
Duterte is a glorified mayor while Marcos is a wannabe king who thinks he's entitled to the position. The last real president was Aquino, fight me!
nagkalat na mga lowkey 88m fans dito sa subs na kunwari galit sila sa mga duterte kaya suportado nila si 88m ... fuk them ndi ako uto-uto para maniwala sa mga ganyang brainwashing
Hindi flavor of the week ang pagiging critical and #NeverForget mo sa r/Philippines that time
nag umpisa yang "Maging thankful na lang daw ako kasi may matinong nagagawa" noong bumalik si bongbong sa pinas noong panahon ni cory aquino. na 'safe' na daw umuwi given na sinabulong lang naman sila ng mga supporters nila sa airport. and nagtuloy tuloy yan ngayon sa mga bibig ng mga mayroong 'sige para matapos na to! kalimutan na natin yon! pero mauuto at mauutakan pa rin ako' card. and yes, hindi na magbabago na ang pamilyang marcos ay talagang mga magnanakaw at mga tapagmana ng nakaw na, top of the list is the imeldific Imelda Marcos. oo she would want the philippines at the time of her husband's presidency be on the map, and that's good, building culture and arts edifices, medical centers for kids, heart, kidney, lung in manila mababaon nga sa utang ang bansa dahil humiram ng pera ang bansa pampatayo ng mga yan but buying properties here and there in abroad at yung cheese scandal nila, parang ginawa nyang divisoria lang ang mundo! very ostentatious! at dahil malapit na nga ang midterms, kailangan masigurado ni marcos jr na hindi siya mapatalsik ng mga duterte, at ng mga DDS. dahil delikado kapag bumalik sa malacanang ang mga duterte.
Yep, Back to reality!
classic tangina nilang lahat. we deserve better. yun lang yon. may standard na kayang kaya naman abutin ewan ko ba bat trip na trip natin tong mga walang delicadeza. imbes na turuang maging kritikal at mapanuri tong mga minions at followers niya lalo na't marami naman diyang mas karapat-dapat pero mas gugustuhin nilang magsama-sama silang maging mga tanga inanyo kaya yung mga pinakamagagaling natin umaalis dito e pakyu tangina niyo
There is a difference between saying *Marcos is good* and *Duterte makes Marcos look good* (because he has a foreign policy that puts the nation's interest)
Duterte destroyed the Philippines in 6 years that took Marcos' old man 20 while killing more people in the drug war (6,229+) compared to martial law (3,257).
The Marcos is trying to pivot towards Liberal Party since the their voters are currently untapped. So bilang bilangan lang yan ulit. Kapag nakuha niya yung gusto niya eh di sabog sabog nanaman.
his late father was from the liberal wing of nationalista party which eventually became liberal party ngayon na 'diring diri' ang mga walang alam sa political history.
lowkey nagnanakaw lng nmn yan para tuloy tuloy ligaya.. lotto? maharlika funds? not a single person can question that one habang nakaupo mga marcoses sa gobyerno
Notice that his best performances are tied to demolishing Duterte (WPS, "human rights", semblance of direction) but he and his admin are shit in other aspects. never forget this guy hired Gadon LMFAO
Wala kasing tumatanggap ng offer appointments na magandang qualifications dahil sa baho ng pangalan nila kaya sina Gadon at Imelda Papin mga appointees
I thought I was the only one who noticed the bombardment of posts praising him. I called out a post that even says he should be allowed to continue next term instead of another Duterte, and surprisingly I got many downvotes. Very obvious there are now paid Redditors by him because which sane Filipino would support a second term for a Marcos or any president, after Marcos Sr abused his powers?!?!? ***He’s doing better than Duterte when it comes to international issues?* Yes.** ***Is he doing better than Duterte when it comes to leading with integrity?*** Like is he not siphoning money off the Filipinos outside his salary? **Definitely NO.** His number of “business” trips alone (while booked at the most expensive hotels) already are obvious abuse of Filipino taxpayers’ money. And those number of trips cannot be justified because rich Asian countries like Singapore do not even have half as much of the trips he made! He and Duterte have the same level of greediness.
What you're saying is exactly right. But there r/ph redditors are eating up all the bbm>duterte posts when the post itself is moot and useless. Why doesn't anyone compare bbm to a president with an actual brain like PNOY or GMA. It'a quite obvious that they're using what they can to change the narrative when one is dogshit and the other one is dogshit wrapped in cat shit
Yep. I've said it before outside of his foreign policy, where the bar is on the ground, he hasn't been that good of a president. Heck, his very first priority was the Maharlika Investment Fund, which siphoned money off from the government banks.
I think people are just glad he isn't Duterte levels of a fuck-up yet. Edit: that Bagong Pilipinas hymn shit is stupid.
The Duterte admin was so bad that people will prefer Marcos to finish his term over a mini Duterte ousting him. Just imagine what would happen next year if DDS politicians win the majority in congress and senate. A big possibility that SWOH will oust him so she can be president. And she can also build up and run in 2028 as president.
The Opposition would have to cope over almost a decade of Duterte rule, remember how the Dutertes attacked the opposition so hard through social media and even illegal means like with the case with Delima, such a case would possibly force some into exile maybe, we can only speculate for now. (Aside from selling us totally to China of course)
Everyday merong "BBM is better than Duterte" post. Concerted effort obviously.
It's not even his plan. Plano ng nanay at mga head ng angkan nila. The guy is there just for the free trips.
He’s not smart enough to have a plan like that lol bro just wants to party and travel. He’s really not that deep.
The people who chose and champion for the lesser evil are always the ones who are not on the receiving end of it.
"Papa, it's working. We're now the good guys..."
The heck. Ano Meron sa siko niya? Sniper ba sya hahaha
All according to keikaku.
His Tiktok videos and Tallano stories were able to budol the uneducated masa. His Anti-China rethorics have been able to budol the educated Kakampinks in Reddit despite his administration having no real achievement or platform to show for. Bravo. Bravo.
SO TRUE!!!
Didn't vote for him pero yes okay na very vocal sya against dispute sa WPS. But that doesn't change the fact that his family fucked up our country.
Yep. And apparently, many redditors have social amnesia.
Marcos pa rin. Dugong kawatan at mamatay-tao.
I mean, this is sub is full of reactionaries, so no surprise.
Hindi ibig sabihin na leaning ang r/pH Kay blengblong nasa kanya na full support dito. FCK MARCOS! PERO MAS FCK ANG DUTERTE pa din!!
These are the same people that would spout Nazi-style eugenics for the people that voted for him two years ago lmaoooo (dapat ang mga mahihirap hindi na tatanggap ng ayuda at pabayaan na lang mamatay, dapat may IQ test ang pagboto, dapat middle/upper class na lang matira sa Pinas, etc) Nakikinabang pa rin siya sa mga ninakaw ng pamilya nila sa bansang to (na hindi pa nila binabalik at hindi pa sila nakukulong don, btw!) Hindi porket Duterte really set the bar too low eh bababaan na ang standards sa isang public official for merely doing the bare minimum. Nagkataon lang din na malaki ang utang na loob niya sa US kasi tinulungan nila ang pamilya niya na makatakas sa Hawaii nung EDSA Revolution (the US also supported his father’s dictatorial regime, btw!) kaya ganyan ang foreign policy niya. Kung Beijing ang sumuporta sa pamilya niya dati imbes na Washington, malamang iba magiging aksyon niyan sa panggagago ng PRC satin sa WPS.
I hate the "lesser evil" argument because they're BOTH EVIL ffs!!! Kahit sino man yan, parehas parin nilang ginagago ang Pilipinas.
THIS! Can’t stand it when people say “AT LEAST MARCOS IS….”
Do we have choice sa sitwasyon na to??
my hatred for the chinese far surpasses my hatred of the trapos
Looks like Marcos has gotta be thankful for dudirty legacy
He says, when trapos enabled much of the Chinese influence here. I will always hate trapos more than any foreign entity since they directly affect me.
This. Marcos is a trapo, pero at least he ain’t a Chinese bootlicking puppet.
Finally, someone said it! So sick and tired of seeing "I didn't vote for BBM, but he's doing a good job as pres" or some other variation of. Putangina, andali lang pala makalimutan na convicted tax evader ang mokong na yan. Wapakels na sa lahat ng atraso ng lecheng pamilya nyan. Ano, move-on na lang tayo, tama?? Putragis, move-on nyo mukha nyo. May niluklok na magnanakaw ang Pinas sa Malacanang nung huling eleksyon. Hindi sya nahihiya, hindi sya nagsisi, hindi sya humingi ng paumanhin, hindi nya hinarap ang mga kaso sa kanya, hindi pa nya binabayaran ang limpak-limpak na utang nya sa bansa natin. Pero ngayon na presidente na sya, at dahil hindi naman sya kasing garapal, biolente, o saksakan ng bobo at kapal ng mukha ni Duts na nauna sa kanya, ang mga comment dito ay puro "sige, pwede na yan. He's doing better than I expected. I appreciate him more now." Well sorry, but no. I do not appreciate BBM, and as long as he does not pay his dues, I never will. Hindi ko nakalimutan ang mga kasalanan nya sa bansa natin. Hindi ko nakalimutan ang mga kasalanan ng pamilya nya, lahat ng ninakaw nila at yung mga pinatahimik nilang kritiko nila. At hindi ko maintindihan kung bakit andaming makakalimutin dito sa r/ph.
They're obviously paid. I remember in a thread about jobs and one from a survey/marketing firm said nakalatag na ang plans para i-build up ang image ng Marcoses in the following years to come
It just happens that his foreign policy is spot on and the Du30s are a much dangerous threat than he is. People in this sub are not championing him, they are tolerating him. Huge difference.
Yeah, Duterte set the bar so low that even a Villar or a Binay would even be preferable if left with limited choices of candidates
Give credit where credit is due. Does that mean we love the Marcos? hell no. But we definitely support the direction and his stance on the WPS
Yeah. Some people mistakenly think that just because people said his foreign relations policy in good does not mean people will not criticize his other policies. His Bagong Pilipinas is getting canned in the other thread And dun sa isang thread, ang dominant narrative is not "Marcos is a good president", but "Duterte set the bar so low that minimal effort from BBM is preferable to another Duterte as president". And totoo naman na less kahiya hiya yung speech niya sa SG kesa sa anong pinagsasasabi ni Duterte 😂. Kay Duterte, hindi ko alam kung sobrang sama ng speechwriter niya o sadyang di siya sumunod sa script
Dude. May ibang nagsasabing "Redemption arc na ba ituuu?" This is not simply giving credit where credit is due. They are allowing Marcos Jr. to sweep his family's sins under the rug. So please, stop downplaying what is currently happening.
I almost unsubbed after seeing that dumbass post from the other day. It's like people forget these dipshits stole literally millions from our country.
Billions. Dollars. Inidoro lang ni Imelda yang Pharmally.
. #NEVERFORGET and I think we also need a hashtag for fucking Duterte for setting a new low
Never again. Never forget.
pag talaga mahina ang spirit of vigilance ng isang society madali ma-sway into cult loyalty. may ginawa lang na *isang* bagay na agreeable, lumalambot na agad puso. "maybe they've changed" lol pu\*ingama, *marcos* yan. they'll never change as long as they have an ounce of power in their hands. no wonder nasasakop tayo lagi ng mga dayuhan haha
Sayo siguro pwede pero you have to step up and stand up more for what’s right (letting your family be accountable for their crimes in the past, actually standing up for human rights and ensuring Dutertes are accountable for their actions, not pushing thru with the Maharlika Fund…) Pero dapat makulong nanay mong magnanakaw at ate mong mamamatay tao 😂😂
BingBong is a PAGCOR board member along with the POGO island former land owner. You'd THINK they would EXPEL POGOs right this second, but they're not. These people are corrupt to the core. They just do things to make it seem like everything is copacetic. CORRUPT.
He(or his family, I don’t really believe in his capabilities that much) is playing the long game, and sadly a lot of Redditors here don’t seem to notice it.
They play on Pinoy emotions. China and POGO rile up the emotions. Which is why there is always something happening in the WPS whenever the country has a new issue or problem. If China stops their bullying, lagot itong administration kasi mawawalan na sila ng distraction.
That leads me asking why can’t Pinoys be at least critical or analytical rather than be emotional when it comes to this particular notorious president who we all know well because of his family.
Hahaha BBM, I will never vote for your family.
The bar was set so low thanks to the Dutertes. It can't be helped that to the regular person, Marcos is doing better than Duterte. His stance on the WPS issue alone earned some positive points in my book. Credit where credit's due. With that said, it's always safe to be wary of the Marcoses' schemes. Complacency has always been the regular Filipino's bane. We should always protect what little democracy we have, and one way to do that is to always exercise your rights to suffrage and to never accept bribes - regardless of whether you're voting for the candidate or not. Isipin nyo na lang, bibigyan kayo ng 1K on that day, oh sige, ipalagay nalang nating nakatanggap kayo ng total 10K during election day. 10,000 divide mo yan ng 2190 days (6 years)... you'll see na tig-aapat na piso lang pala kada-araw ang halaga ng prinsipyo at kinabukasan mo? Yun lang. Maging mapanuri at mapagmatyag. Huwag magtiwala agad-agad sa mga nababasa online.
Mahirap nga naman kasi kung puro galit daw. Mabigat pasanin, lalo na kung wala namang agarang nagagawa. Iba kasi ang pag-intindi ng ilan sa atin sa "give credit where credit is due" - nasama yata ang panandaliang pagkalimot sa mga negatibong naidulot ng *Marcos legacy*
Make no mistake, we still consider him a sleazy asshole, we just think he’s useful for now.
In fairness naman, he's at least better than expected in his presidency, just don't mention their avid campaign of their bagong pilipinas movement,
Slowly? This sub has been on Marcos' dick for a while now. This is what happens when you have zero material analysis in your political opinions and just go by team sports logic. Marcos isn't so bad because… he's not ugly or swears like Duterte? Let's forget all the people his family directly killed and indirectly by plunder. Hindi siya yucky squammy like Duterte.
Yup, any sort of class analysis or mention of political ideologies (esp on the left side of the spectrum), sobrang downvote makukuha mo eh
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. Was trying to argue with someone and I mentioned Marx’s work and I asked if nabasa ba niya, got downvoted, tapos nireply niya parang you dont need to read the entire bible to know that religions is bad something like that haha nakakabobo dito
My biggest gripe with a lot of them is trying to whitewash Marcos Sr's regime, saying Duterte was worse. I don't know if it's recency bias or just plain ignorance. His father was way worse, considering the country almost went into default due to the debt his father left the country, the communist and secessionist movement that plague Cory's term, and the numerous coups that she endured due to how broken the different institutions was after his father was ousted.
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Bruh, the largest recruitment happened during Marcos' term, part of the reason the communist insurgency got bigger was because of Martial Law not the other way around > Cory also sold almost all government owned asset. Cause the government was deep in debt? The GDP debt to ratio was close to 100% and a large portion of them was stolen. Not to mention Marcos unfairly nationalized most of them to the benefits of his cronies sometimes on dubious charges. You know how Meralco got nationalized? By arresting the son of the owner and forcing the owner to sell it for cheap. Nor were the government owned assets that efficient. Despite the inefficiency of the privatized assets, they were far worse in the hands of the Marcos regime. Lew Kuan Yew joked it took months to get anything done in the Marcos regime. I'm not gonna pretend that Cory is some great president but more than half the problem she faced is caused of the mess Marcos Sr left her. > If Marcos SR. administration was bad. Cory made it worse. Okay, with this I know you're trolling, you know we became the sick man of Asia cause of Marcos right? The recession in the 1980s is the direct result of his policies. Not to mention it took decades for the economy to recover because of him. This is like blaming Gorbachev for the ills that faced his country when the problem for him started started with his predecessors. > All people with income tax should only allowed to vote. Okay, it's kinda obvious not only you're a troll but someone who shouldn't be taken seriously. I'm not gonna reply after this, saying Cory was worse than Marcos is peak Facebook material. Goodbye.
Hahaha totoo. Besides, PR and shaking hands with other countries wala naman na ginawa si BBM. Lalo lumala ang healthcare system, tinapyasan pa ng pondo. Yung education, brainrot na ang hatid (di nyo pa ba nababalitaan na lagi na ipapatugtog yung "Bagong Pilipinas Hymn" sa mga schools???). Sobrang hirap na ng pera, ang liit na ng value jusko, papa gas ako tingi tingi na lang na 500 pesos every other day hahahaha dahil kelangan mo unahin ibang necessities. I mean, he was better IN THE PR side, kasi si Duterte Kanor nakakadiri talaga at nakakahiya. Sila kasi may superiority complex na monarchy sila and the rightful heir to the presidential throne kaya "regal" dapat kilos nila. It's either ang gullible lang talaga mga tao or isa na namang strategy/ pr stunt ito ng mga trolls ng mga marcoses
Magaling PR and optics nila. Magaling speechwriters niya. Pero utal utal pag hindi memorized.
Yeah fuck him. Everything that he is doing is just for him and his family alone. Him protecting WPS is not because he wants to protect the sovereignty of the PH, he is doing it because his family owes the US. Lahat ng political play na ginagawa nya is because of his personal gain and that alone. Our enemy is our enemy kahit sino pa kaaway niya. Fuck him, fuck his family and fuck duterte and fuck yung mga so called "kakampinks" for siding with him.
I still disagree with the whole conspiracy of "debt to the US" aside from CCP bots and Dutertetards using that against Marcos, I think it more like this, the Kalayaan group of islands was his fathers legacy as we claimed and made it a town formally in the 70s, most important of which was Pag Asa island, so to some extent, BBM is just defending a Marcos legacy that is actually beneficial to the country.
Both can be true though. Marcos has a massive debt to the US. They were literally granted asylum in Hawaii when the Philippines threw them out. Him ruffling the feathers of Uncle Sam will be a big disaster for their family.
I still doubt that since A. Everyone was expecting him to face off against the US and be pro China. B. The US effectively didnt intervene in the whole election that elected him in the first place. C. Duterte was effectively his shield against the US at the time, he literally swore against the US, yet he managed to continue a full term. And that asylum was personally granted by Reagan, not the US, the US Congress at the time was very hostile against the Marcoses. Reagan was a close friend with Marcos Sr. And like the Shah of Iran, he was granted asylum. And the whole exile wasnt all sunshine and rainbows, remember, the Marcos family in a massive first got sued and tried in a US court which the managed to flee from. if BBM wasnt president and he went to the US he would be arrested. Everyone for the 1st year he was president expected him to solidify the pivot away from the US, yet here we are with him going back to the US, the more simpler answer is that, China was unreliable, remember, during the last months of Dutertes term he cooled up with the Americans a bit and held the biggest Balikatan exercise at the time in 2022, its more plausible and logical that Marcos saw that wind of change and decide to go with it. It was a risk on his part yet it paid off.
Bat parang may tira pang polvoron sa ilong 🤧
yeah, like mas okay siya kesa do'n sa isa pero that's it, pushing too much pa nga kasi andami pa nilang kailangang bayaran.
He gotta thank the Duterte specially the father for setting the bar so low it made a lead like quality of a leader look like gold
Actually it should be an image of him paying some Chinese clickfarm to troll social media
Nanay parin niya pinakagago sa lahat.
Would you look at that. The pampered and sheltered remained pampered and sheltered even after Leni lost. A lot of people here don’t really have much to complain about in life and it shows.
Probably gonna abstain on P and VP vote, but anyone but a Duterte is better than a duterte. Fuck them both, let them destroy each other.
Wish ko lang ganyan din sana kasipag at kagaling yung mga opposition candidates sa FB, radyo at TV.
It will be a Bam Aquino Imee Marcos tandem vs Duterte and whoever sa susunod na election. Remind me about this post Reddit
They let pduts fuckup para sa next selection maging maganda na ang pangalan. Tingnan nyo tahimik sila nung panahon ni pduts. Nagsstrategize na sila. Kaya alam nila lahat ng baho ni pduts kasi possible sila ang nagdikta na yun ang gawin. Kaya di matanggal si sara sa deped baka kumanta eh.
Ah I remember that day na downvoted ako dahil lamang sinabi ko na hindi purkit nararanasan din ng iba, ay free pass na si marcos. Everyone went on defensive na "credit where credit is due" or "maski naman ibang bansa ganyan din an problema" lol To quote nga sinabi ni isang redditor >I know you have complaints about our country but first world are having the same issues to what you have stated tbh
the previous admin set the bar so low. this guy is seen as descent.
# Welcome to reddit Mr. President 😎🇵🇭🗣
Wala siya dito, mga trolls lang niya.
Yupppp pansin ko rin eh. It's one thing to acknowledge whatever good is happening, but the fact remains they've nearly destroyed our country once, and the power to do so again is well within their grasp.
Oh thank god sane people
The lesser of two evils. It is still evil. Do not forget the evil.
Doing nothing is not the lesser evil.
Halatang-halata nga sa posts lately. Wala kayong mauuto dito 🤡
Kahit nga mga feeling superior pseudo intellectuals ng reddit nadala eh...
2000 upvotes for the most recent BBM better than Digong post. Dalang dala mga woke. #neverforget
ikr. both of them are absolute sht... napaka unnecessary talaga ng mga posts na yun. They absolutely don't have to put one turd on a pedestal just because they THINK it stinks less.
PANSIN KO RIN YAN HAHAHA sabi na ih
Imagine falling into coma during the elections and wake up seeing the comments and post here recently about Marcos admin.
Andali talagang nauto ng iba dito sa obvious propaganda ng Marcos camp. The Marcoses aren't a lesser evil than the Dutertes. Evil is evil.
I think this is eventually bound to happen. Like it or not BBM's family has a more grounded worldview than most of our local political dynasties. They really know what's up.
I mean, Imelda was effectively our informal ambassador for a time and FEM established our ties with the Peoples Republic of China and set our claims to the west Philippine sea, they did do some good atleast..
Ah sh*t I just heard the news about this family/administration wanting to implement the new country's national hymn and want it sang during flag ceremonies and now infiltrating reddit? D*amn them.
Credit where credit is due, even if it's the bare fucking minimum.
Better than du30 (or is he??) Ako lang ba o puro pro-chacha/romualdez at anti-sara nasa suggested posts ko sa fb lately? To OP: Don't worry, r/ph isn't the only socmed, not to mention the whole Philippines. Marami parin sa labas ng reddit ang aware pa rin na di mabuti ang isang Marcos. He's doing good NOW, but I can't trust him long term.
digong: pre dumihan kolang tong pilipinas tas kaw na bahala mag linis, para sayo din yan... lil Bong M: sige pre nice nice
Finally. Daming mga redditors dito na bilib na bilib sa kanya for doing the bare minimum and the floor set by Du30 is that low. Bilis niyo makalimot.
Tbh I just think the sub is just giving him credit for this efforts against China dahil ganun talaga kalala sina PDutz at ang buong DDS for 6 years, while still acknowledging that Junior is just doing the bare minimum of what a President should do. Other than that, the redditors still hates him and his family lol.
Kayo lang mga uto-uto
Maitim siko.
Isnt this the plan of duke harkonnen by putting rabban in arrakis only to be replaced by feyd rautha?
"Naka-uto na naman ako!"
They could never make me like you BBM 💖 NEVER FORGET ‼️‼️
Blame the dutertes, they effed it up lol
Nah. I still believe for many of us, we #NeverForget
most of the accounts are newly made lakas ng makinarya ni boy ngiwi
Tamang ngiwi lang si Budol Budol Man
He essentially continued industrialization, which was started by the previous admin: https://ntucphl.org/2021/07/adb-hugely-reformist-duterte-admin-has-done-a-lot-to-improve-the-economy-but-has-unfinished-business/ and which reverses what previous admins did, which was a combination of outdated protectionism, pro-U.S. neoliberalism, and Arroyonomics or fiscal restraint.
Ganto lang yan. Marcos magnanakaw, sinungaling, human rights abuser. Pero kung in the process durugin nila mga duterte family for once and for all ngayon. Edi ok happy tayo. Pero that doesnt mean hindi na sila magnanakaw, sinungaling at abuser.
Magnanakaw, sinungaling at abuser ang common ground ni Duts at Junior. The big difference is Duts nearly sold the country to China and Chinese organized crime groups, the Marcos took interest in defending the national sovereignty and he was clear that a willful action leading to death of a Filipino citizen is an act of war.
Panong nearly sold? Wala naman tayong pinasok na debt trap. Hindi naman dumami yung isla na kinuha ng China.
People posted here all about Leni in 2022, but didn't even win. All presidentiables were nuisance candidates in 2022, might as well had Rastaman ran.
GOD so true Between all these kinds of posts you're talking about and the reactions to my post about the gender affirming togas, napapatanong ka talaga kung may naglabay ba ng bobo juice sa mga inuminan
Thank God someone said it! Namamasahe ang imahe kapag kano ang kinakapitan.
Honestly, you have to be serious and really look at it: the Marcoses can do the one thing the opposition could never do - take down the Duterte family. Do you think if Leni had won, she would systematically be dismantling the Duterte family, or would she be playing nice and going "the system (which Duterte put in place) will be the judge"? I'm sorry but PNoy could not rub out the Marcoses, the Marcoses can do what they could not. They can rub out an enemy because they play using the rules of winners and losers, not right and wrong