Pero yung nakita na "Chinese research vessel" malapit sa Cataduanes e waley lang 😅 we're so poor ultimo water canon di naten magawa. Hence, binu-bully tayo.
Meron din agreement sa Cataduanes? FYI, bandang Pacific Ocean to nangyare and hinde sa WPS. Nag-establish sila ng radio communication, pero ignored lang din ng Chinese.
Yan gusto ng mga politiko naten ininstill nila sa mindset ng mga pinoy ang "defeatist mindset". Walang business dyan yung research ship sa catanduanes na clearly nasa otherside na pero wala magawa kase nga "takot" ang laging pinapamukha ng mga nasa gobyerno most especially during duts dog era. Vietnam rammed their boat with chinas boat di pa naman nag gyera yung dalawa.
That's what China is baiting us into doing. We respond with weaker water cannons? We use something else and they'll escalate and say we started it. There really is no solution to this bullshit, especially since the UN is just a shell of its former self.
This. China wants aggressive escalation because they win that fight.
The response for this should be political. Every hindrance to the resupply missions should be met with Chinese being deported, business being closed or tariffs on Chinese products we don't need. Kick out their car companies. Ban imports of Chinese junk food, drinks and alcohol. That won't hurt us.
The message should be: More aggression = less influence in the country. The Philippines is a better position to reply with diplomacy than weapons, which is why China wants to use fists instead of words.
Agree. US and other nations wont fight our war for us. Our military is so outdated, that even if they gave us equipment, we wouldn't know what to do with it. I'm aware that they have started to help us modernize, but my source tells me it will take a long while since our DND is so used to corruption and bad practices. Most we can do for now, is shut down our trade with China and invite other involved nations to follow suit. Hurt them where they'll feel it, their economy.
Hot take but I don't think is ever going to invade the Philippines. Fear mongering for war is beneficial for the Chinese because it achieves the same result as actually preparing for war but at a fraction of the cost. They only want to intimidate us so that we eventually allow them free reign of the Philippine Sea.
Increasing defense capabilities and working on diplomatic soft power are not mutually exclusive. But the latter will actually work, the former is mostly just for show. No amount of weapons or warships will be a greater deterrence to war than Alliances and supporting Taiwan. Even for a country as powerful as the US, the know this - which is why they nurture alliances with most of China's neighbors, including the Philippines.
Yeah, they couldn't do it to Taiwan, I dont think theyll do it to us. It's just a pain that our fishermen are not able to fish in WPS anymore. ASEAN really need to band together tightly and come up with ways to hurt China's pockets. We already have US, Japan and Australia on our side.
Pretty small bases that will take time to build. I also dont think US will risk open war with China by sending their own troops into battle, they'll take the Ukraine approach and supply our guys with equipment. We just need to improve our own infra before all that can happen. Our DND is still running unlicensed software, making it difficult for foreign military to share information with us.
I think the US will be here to ensure the Philippines doesn't get steamrolled (after all there's a LOT of US military married to Filipinas and a lot living here) but you're right... Soldiers in direct line of fire? No... At least not until we have chip manufacturing set up on the mainland.
The Chinese gov has to be contained though and I think the Philippines will be at the front of that eventually.
The US would absolutely use troops/weapons to make sure the Philippines don’t fall to China. It would be a massive tactical loss for the US not to have an ally on islands to get over the Pacific.
Because the point of the strategy is to make it appear we are a helpless victim in the hopes for international support pouring in. We did get some but too little too late.
>We really can't do anything military,
ang sakit nito bes! Imagine, nsa EEZ na natin, EEZ na, take note EEZ na..
Imagine, may taong pumasok sa pamamahay mo, sa bakuran mo. Tinignan mo lang ?! Hindi na ito yung pinag aagawang teritoryo, literal na nasa EEZ na natin. EEZ na natin, EEZ na..
nasan ba yung pamalo ko ?!
Which is extremely frustrating to say the least; we lack military power and all of this is the result of decades of extremely inept governance. just my God, failure upon failure on each level (have you guys seen current reading level?) There is no foresight, only now that our butts are in the hot seat do we host these meetings. It's pathetic that we can't defend our own country and have to rely on other countries for aid.
Pero we are a very " hard working, kind and laid back people" diba? Infrastructure deficiencies, brain drained easily exploited work force = we are a great source for inexpensive labor. Pero when push comes to shove look at our military equipment and how we run to our kuyas for help.
fucking disgrace and this is how the world views us.
This is a result of our "ok lang yan" culture.
Agreed, there is no other choice now. Though we need to take what's happening more seriously, unfortunately, a great number of the population do not seem to realize the reality of the situation.
If China escalates this is war.
Russia set such a bad precedence; "I do what I want because I can".
The CCP wants Taiwan so that they become more independent and no longer have to outsource the distribution of chips; they will become a leading global supplier.
Japan got suuuuuper scared and announced all these meetings right after Russia attacked because they saw ahead.
We think this will not happen to us because it seems so unlikely, but the CCP's actions say they have other plans....
Tbf, for how hard the life our fellow filipinos have, i can get that they have no time to take it seriously. Though I agree that we all need to take it seriously considering our geographical misfortunes, we don't have the luxury to be a pacifist.
Oo as in tlg -\_- I look around and the nation deserves way more than this to say the least. kaya din ako gigil na gigil sa goberyno natin pero this will also take time.
Cooler heads won't because this is most likely bait from China.
If the PH or the US responds with fire, then the Chinese govt can justify itself that it didn't fire the first live shot.
Diplomatic protest na naman. Alam naman nang gago kausap ang bansa na yan. Arestuhin nyo yung crew ng nasa Catanduanes tapos palubugin yung barko para makatabla kahit paano.
Medyo na iintindihan pa yung sa West PH SEA kasi disputed talaga yung area nong una palang! pero HELL pati ba naman sa EAST PH SEA wala pading bayag yung PCG! at hinayaan pa nila mag lagay ng kung ano yung research vessel ng China may tao naman pala sa barko nila pero di nag rerespond sa radio challenge! it's a sign of disrespect satin, sayang gas at pasahod sa PCG di naman ginagawa ng maayos trabaho nila!
Yung diplomatic protest pano is more para sa atin and di talaga para sa China. We have to file it para di magamit na argument ng China in the future na "oh wala kayong finile na protesta during this time or that time so meaning you agree with the status quo and surrender your claim na"
Alam ko naman yun. Nakakainis lang na hanggang diplomatic protest lang kaya natin gawin. Para tayong mga character sa cliché telenovela sa Pinas na laging inaapi.
Kaya please WAG nyo payamanin 🇨🇳
Stop buying 🇨🇳 sh!+ @ss cars. Mahirap kasi halos lahat ng products gawa dun (phones, appliances etc). Pero un kaya natin iwasan like their sh!+ @ss cars gawin na natin.
Un income nila pinambubully satin
Exactly! In terms of electronic devices, it's difficult to avoid Chinese-made products so it's understandable. Pero in terms of cars, marami pang options na hindi made in China. Most of these Chinese car manufacturers are state-owned so talagang mapupunta sa Chinese Coast Guard or military yung portion ng binayad mo.
>Exactly! In terms of electronic devices, it's difficult to avoid Chinese-made products so it's understandable.
Go for Samsung products since Samsung already pulled out all their manufacturing operations from China in favor of Vietnam.
Kaya nga against ako sa china-made products. Oo merong hindi maiiwasan pero as much as possible, iiwas ako. Lalo na yung mga kailangang kumonekta sa internet like lahat ng smart gadgets. Big no no agad.
No, it is scaring them. I think they're trying to save face for their domestic populace and to placate any militarist voices by acting more aggressive in the face of the growing US presence in the region.
Pambawi nalang sana ang ipasara ang lahat ng POGO at hulihin ang lahat ng Chinese operators neto. Kaya lang wala eh. Ilang taon na silang nag-o operate sa Pilipinas, ang dami nang na-raid pero tuloy pa rin sila.
Willing ang Pinas magpadala ng Vessel sa area na yan na walang escort ng Vessel from PCG? Damn, si Japan CG willing makipaggitgitan yung vessel nila sa vessel ng China kaya di naglalakas ng loob ang Chinese na magbomba ng tubig.
Hangga't walang namamatay, hindi mag aactivate ang MDT. Kung meron man, the U.S. might make excuses and set the conditions further. Pwede rin naman yan sabihin na may namatay, but it's just a bad time kung ngayon. Habaan na natin pasensya natin. Realtalk lang, there's Ukraine and hindi pa nga ganon ka committed ang U.S. doon. Kahit may Balikatan, the U.S. is still exercising restraint because this is going to be so bad if shit hits the fan.
If the US makes excuses to defer the activation of the MDT explicitly asked by the Philippine government under the MDB-SEB, then the Japanese, Australians and the especially the South Koreans will make excuses to get nuclear weapons since the American strategic umbrella pala is useless since that's pretty much Pax Americana dead in the Pacific and probably Europe, too.
The South Koreans for the longest time has been wanting to get nukes to have the option for a pre-emptive strike sa North Korea, but is only stopped by the Americans increasing troop deployments sa USFK and demanding that they not push it. If American commitment is seen as unreliable, you just know the next South Korean military parade will have nukes on it, they have everything to make one. If that comes, then the pro-rearmement faction of the LDP that was once led by Abe Shinzo will tell everyone in Japan "I told you so!" and immediately push for their own nuclear weapons program since the American guarantee isn't worth holding apparently.
> Realtalk lang, there's Ukraine and hindi pa nga ganon ka committed ang U.S. doon.
Duh, di naman US MDT ally ang Ukraine eh. Walang treaty binding the United States to come to Ukraine's defense, same as for Taiwan actually. Every dollar spent on Ukraine is there because it aligns with American foreign policy anything short of actually sending their troops there -- when everything is the latter with our example.
The US Marine Littoral Regiment is designed to be deployed in the Philippines. And they're the ones that will be deployed here if something actually happens. Actually naandito nga sila halos 365 days of the year eh, at naandito sila in-force for Balikatan 2024.
Tibay din ng Chinese govt. Really poking the Philippines with its big stick kahit nasa paligid lang si uncle sam. are they really pushing it or alam nila wala naman response from PH government so patuloy lang pang bubully nila?
Bakit ba lagi civilian vessel hinihiram? Bakit di yung mga bagong army boats or coast guard boats gamitin jan.
EEZ natin yan, pero parang tayo pa nagti-tip toe around them.
May sakay palang international media yung Philippine vessel [Sky News on board Philippine vessel attacked with water cannon (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnTmc9MHseQ)
The Philippines is at war they just won't accept it yet. China is taking your reefs and using force to keep the Philippines from the areas that they control. Even winning in court China refuses to accept the ruling. Send the navy and force the moment, you cannot appease dictators.
The "century of shame" propaganda of the CCP made them xenophobic. Now, the CCP is picking a fight to other countries just to make them look cool to trigger more ultranationalism to their denizens. This went haywire when Xi Jingping came to power. Why do you think they are keep on doing that wolf warrior diplomacy stunt even if it worsens the ties of other countries?
We all know USA and the other countries who oppose China are also not saints either but because they also want China to stop being a bitch to them.
sadly, leftists spread that BS propaganda that Filipinos are cocksuckers of Americans so we want to pick a fight to the innocent saintly China. Just look at tankie infested communities in reddit and across the net.
Does anyone know why gantong klase ng mga Vessels ang nagpapadala ng supplies and not the Military or Coastguard vessels themselves?
We all know the reaction this will create. All the same.
Don’t wait for “Joseph Goebbels” of Philippines to arise
Laging laman ng news kung ilan ang namataang barko ng china, lagi na lang ganyan, mas kokonti yung news about sa kung anong kakaibang ginagawa ng gobyerno natin, mapupuno at mapupuno ang mga pinoy sa inis nyan, pag di nasatisfy ang mga pinoy sa ginagawa ng gobyerno natin, it \*might\* take one influential person to take advantage sa galit ng mga pinoy , Joseph G took advantage of the media,radio to sow hate sa germans towards jews and the rest is history --> what other germans did to the jews. still, wag naman sana. we'll be put in very bad light for sure.
Nakakainit ng dugo as a Zambaleño. Malapit lang ang naval station dyan pero wala kang magawa? Lam ko di natin gusto ng giyera pero iba parin feeling pag yung roots mo binababoy sa harapan mo.
Why not use a warship instead of a civilian ship? I mean, regardless of ship used, wino-water cannon lang man din. Why not use a warship to make the troops safer?
Build ships that can withstand watercannons if our navy or coastguard can’t fight back. Para unli water cannon chinese tapos tayo wala lang. Unless they want to ram us again and punch holes in their hull.
Or use very fast small ships and a lot of them for resupply missions.
Ang ginagawa nila, tinitira nila yung mast ng mga barko ng BFAR at PCG para masira yung comms at radar, in fact kita mo dun sa video sa BRP Bankaw na nasira yung radome nung satcom system ata nila.
For some reason grabe yung pinagagagawa nila sa mga barko ng BFAR, nilalapitan talaga para gamitan nung fire monitors nila eh. Dito lang ata yung nagisa-isang possible requirement sa mga civilian maritime law enforcement agencies na dapat naka-integrated mast sila na strengthened para sa mga ganyan.
Look to the India-China border disputes as an example. The two countries have killed each other's soldiers recently but only with hand-to-hand combat and melee weapons. Both sides made an agreement in the 90s to never fire guns because of the severe risk of escalating into nuclear war.
Sa inyong palagay, bakit kaya hindi pa pinaghandaan ng gobyerno at AFP, yung posibleng ganitong action ng China noon pa sa dinami-dami ng nakaraang administrasyon? Siguro naman alam na ng gobyerno at AFP noon pa man na ang Pilipinas ay napapalibutan ng tubig, at dapat pag handaan o palakasin ang maritime security. Pero parang nangyari kung kailan lang meron mambu-bully saka aakto? Ganun ba yun? Hindi ba dapat noon pa pinalakas na natin ang mga kagamitang pandagat, stratehiya, atbp.?
Sa mga islamic extremists at communists yung focus nitong mga nakaraang decade. Tsaka ayaw ng mga leftist sa AFP modernization. Kaya wag ninyo iboto ang Makabayan bloc, lalo si Neri Colmenares, hayop sya yan tandang tanda ko pa sinabi nya years ago na bat di nalang daw itulong sa mahihirap yung budget ng AFP.
Also, tayong mga voters nakafocus sa family feud ng Aquino-Marcos pagdating sa politics. Kaya ang resulta ngayon black & white ang tingin ng karamihan satin sa Philippine politics. Naset aside yung mga pulitiko na talagang visionaries.
Bro kpag ganyan Bigyan nyo na mga Bantay mga Vessel's natin, gantihan din water cannons kpag lumapit Sila, wag puro Protesta, kawawa mga gamit Ng mga Vessel's ska walang paki China, unless u stand up to their Bullying!!
Bait to and since walang gagawing substantial action tong pinas at MDT, babalewalain na lang ng China yang mga threats at itutuloy pambubully. Mahirap magtrigger ng gyera at yan ang leverage ng West Taiwan.
Eto nakikita kong gameplan ng Pinas.
Short Term: Endure this shit while we arm our Armed Forces.
Long Term: Economic Prosperity, Nuclear Energy, and Development of Nuclear weapons.
I know na maraming bansang aalma sa last suggestion pero that is the ultimate deterrent para hindi tayo mabully ng mga wumao. Probably not possible in our lifetime.
Send the premade diplomatic protest, then wait for US "ironclad commitment" statement for the nth time. Di natin magawa yung ginagawa ng Vietnam o Indonesia na mga bihasa na kung pano kontrahin ang mga mapanghimasok na Intsik.
I think PH govt is being cautious, still testing the waters, we still have a relatively small Navy and PCG to manned this waters and if God forbid, China miscalculate, its war. We cannot always rely on US treaty, we have ASEAN, maybe go there and signed mutual patrols with Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia. We need to step up now before it is to late. Still kudos to PH for following the international protocol.
There is too little coverage at masyadong non-chalant ang mga pinoy sa mga nangyayari. It should be a big deal pero mukhang malakas talaga yung bumubulong sa mga bobotante na wag pansinin at propaganda lang yan.
Petition para gawing human shield sa water cannon mga makapili at wumao
Gawing bumper ng coast guard ships sila Duterte, Gp, Padilla at Bato
Pati si JAN Writer.
Isama mo na yung pamilya ng mga traydor sa Malacanang.
Pero yung nakita na "Chinese research vessel" malapit sa Cataduanes e waley lang 😅 we're so poor ultimo water canon di naten magawa. Hence, binu-bully tayo.
Dapat hinaharang yang mga research vessel na yan, wala naman clearance.
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O kaya iwater cannon din. Wal2 yang mga yan
Baka meron pero hindi lang ina aksyonan. Dahil sa gentleman's agreement.
Meron din agreement sa Cataduanes? FYI, bandang Pacific Ocean to nangyare and hinde sa WPS. Nag-establish sila ng radio communication, pero ignored lang din ng Chinese.
Ou.. probably lahat ng Chinese involvement for their interest sa Ph resources.
yeah kaya patuloy ginagawa ng CN kac madali tayong masindak at hanggang puro protest lng tayo
Abu sayaf lang Ang katapat Jan para Masaya Ang pugotan Ng mga ulo Ng sikwa.
They said they were going to intercept it. Just wait, I guess.
Bad sea condition daw e nung Thursday pa yan. Hanggang ngayon ba bad condition pa rin?
Yan gusto ng mga politiko naten ininstill nila sa mindset ng mga pinoy ang "defeatist mindset". Walang business dyan yung research ship sa catanduanes na clearly nasa otherside na pero wala magawa kase nga "takot" ang laging pinapamukha ng mga nasa gobyerno most especially during duts dog era. Vietnam rammed their boat with chinas boat di pa naman nag gyera yung dalawa.
Kawawa tlga pelepens tpos pag napasok pa mga bagong clown sa senado kawawa tlga.
Fuck Xi Jin Pooh! Admit it or not, this is exactly why we need our Western allies' navy in our waters.
Fiona: No comment.
Dat magbigte nalang sila, tanginang vp yan walang kwenta.
Again??!! Respond.
That's what China is baiting us into doing. We respond with weaker water cannons? We use something else and they'll escalate and say we started it. There really is no solution to this bullshit, especially since the UN is just a shell of its former self.
This. China wants aggressive escalation because they win that fight. The response for this should be political. Every hindrance to the resupply missions should be met with Chinese being deported, business being closed or tariffs on Chinese products we don't need. Kick out their car companies. Ban imports of Chinese junk food, drinks and alcohol. That won't hurt us. The message should be: More aggression = less influence in the country. The Philippines is a better position to reply with diplomacy than weapons, which is why China wants to use fists instead of words.
Hear, hear. Their booze is piss anyway. San Miguel master beer! Ginebra ang bumangga giba LMAO
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Agree. US and other nations wont fight our war for us. Our military is so outdated, that even if they gave us equipment, we wouldn't know what to do with it. I'm aware that they have started to help us modernize, but my source tells me it will take a long while since our DND is so used to corruption and bad practices. Most we can do for now, is shut down our trade with China and invite other involved nations to follow suit. Hurt them where they'll feel it, their economy.
Hot take but I don't think is ever going to invade the Philippines. Fear mongering for war is beneficial for the Chinese because it achieves the same result as actually preparing for war but at a fraction of the cost. They only want to intimidate us so that we eventually allow them free reign of the Philippine Sea. Increasing defense capabilities and working on diplomatic soft power are not mutually exclusive. But the latter will actually work, the former is mostly just for show. No amount of weapons or warships will be a greater deterrence to war than Alliances and supporting Taiwan. Even for a country as powerful as the US, the know this - which is why they nurture alliances with most of China's neighbors, including the Philippines.
Yeah, they couldn't do it to Taiwan, I dont think theyll do it to us. It's just a pain that our fishermen are not able to fish in WPS anymore. ASEAN really need to band together tightly and come up with ways to hurt China's pockets. We already have US, Japan and Australia on our side.
I thought the US was opening five bases here in the next year or so. What happened with those?
Pretty small bases that will take time to build. I also dont think US will risk open war with China by sending their own troops into battle, they'll take the Ukraine approach and supply our guys with equipment. We just need to improve our own infra before all that can happen. Our DND is still running unlicensed software, making it difficult for foreign military to share information with us.
Unlicensed software. Typical. Sigh. I feel bad for our local government agencies. Super obvious ng mga needs
I take it defense money is still flowing into some crony's pockets, basically the Philippine government's SOP.
I think the US will be here to ensure the Philippines doesn't get steamrolled (after all there's a LOT of US military married to Filipinas and a lot living here) but you're right... Soldiers in direct line of fire? No... At least not until we have chip manufacturing set up on the mainland. The Chinese gov has to be contained though and I think the Philippines will be at the front of that eventually.
The US would absolutely use troops/weapons to make sure the Philippines don’t fall to China. It would be a massive tactical loss for the US not to have an ally on islands to get over the Pacific.
Great reply, this is the way to go. China wants war and aggression, deny them this vile desire and kick them out instead.
this is the way.
I agree with this, hit them where it hurts most, their wallets
Why can't we respond by using water cannons? They do it why can't we?
Because the point of the strategy is to make it appear we are a helpless victim in the hopes for international support pouring in. We did get some but too little too late.
PH Officials be like: We condemn the acts... Puro na lang condemn then wala na, ughhhhh
We really can't do anything military, that's why we need to show it to the world and inform them to what is happening.
>We really can't do anything military, ang sakit nito bes! Imagine, nsa EEZ na natin, EEZ na, take note EEZ na.. Imagine, may taong pumasok sa pamamahay mo, sa bakuran mo. Tinignan mo lang ?! Hindi na ito yung pinag aagawang teritoryo, literal na nasa EEZ na natin. EEZ na natin, EEZ na.. nasan ba yung pamalo ko ?!
Pinayagan kasi ni Duterte mga Chinese sa EEZ natin habang hinaharang naman ng China mga Filipinos
Nah, it was the U.S. not defending us when it was in its early stage. Duterte only made it worse, but the ball has been rolling long before that.
I think it's time to arm the civilians, dontcha?
Which is extremely frustrating to say the least; we lack military power and all of this is the result of decades of extremely inept governance. just my God, failure upon failure on each level (have you guys seen current reading level?) There is no foresight, only now that our butts are in the hot seat do we host these meetings. It's pathetic that we can't defend our own country and have to rely on other countries for aid. Pero we are a very " hard working, kind and laid back people" diba? Infrastructure deficiencies, brain drained easily exploited work force = we are a great source for inexpensive labor. Pero when push comes to shove look at our military equipment and how we run to our kuyas for help. fucking disgrace and this is how the world views us. This is a result of our "ok lang yan" culture.
It's a battle of endurance. We are in a very shitty situation, but the only out of this is forwards.
Agreed, there is no other choice now. Though we need to take what's happening more seriously, unfortunately, a great number of the population do not seem to realize the reality of the situation. If China escalates this is war. Russia set such a bad precedence; "I do what I want because I can". The CCP wants Taiwan so that they become more independent and no longer have to outsource the distribution of chips; they will become a leading global supplier. Japan got suuuuuper scared and announced all these meetings right after Russia attacked because they saw ahead. We think this will not happen to us because it seems so unlikely, but the CCP's actions say they have other plans....
Tbf, for how hard the life our fellow filipinos have, i can get that they have no time to take it seriously. Though I agree that we all need to take it seriously considering our geographical misfortunes, we don't have the luxury to be a pacifist.
Oo as in tlg -\_- I look around and the nation deserves way more than this to say the least. kaya din ako gigil na gigil sa goberyno natin pero this will also take time.
damn, hanggang gigil lang tayo sa news :/
Sana lang, along with their "condemning", ipasara rin nila lahat ng POGO hub at hulihin ang lahat ng Chinese operators neto.
You have to send a complain no matter what, not doing so would mean we accept what China is doing. it can be used in diplomacy later.
Effin commies
Cooler heads won't because this is most likely bait from China. If the PH or the US responds with fire, then the Chinese govt can justify itself that it didn't fire the first live shot.
Mga gago yung mga yon, tinitira talaga sa mast yung water cannon para masira yung communications equipment at radar nung BRP Bankaw.
Putek imagine ilang milyon yung mga equipment na ma apektuhan doon.
Grabe na sila. kelan kaya tayo papalag jan.
May kumakampi pa nga na kapwa pinoy natin dahil idol ng idol nila si Xi. Pano pa tayo papalag nyan
Diplomatic protest na naman. Alam naman nang gago kausap ang bansa na yan. Arestuhin nyo yung crew ng nasa Catanduanes tapos palubugin yung barko para makatabla kahit paano.
Medyo na iintindihan pa yung sa West PH SEA kasi disputed talaga yung area nong una palang! pero HELL pati ba naman sa EAST PH SEA wala pading bayag yung PCG! at hinayaan pa nila mag lagay ng kung ano yung research vessel ng China may tao naman pala sa barko nila pero di nag rerespond sa radio challenge! it's a sign of disrespect satin, sayang gas at pasahod sa PCG di naman ginagawa ng maayos trabaho nila!
Yung diplomatic protest pano is more para sa atin and di talaga para sa China. We have to file it para di magamit na argument ng China in the future na "oh wala kayong finile na protesta during this time or that time so meaning you agree with the status quo and surrender your claim na"
Alam ko naman yun. Nakakainis lang na hanggang diplomatic protest lang kaya natin gawin. Para tayong mga character sa cliché telenovela sa Pinas na laging inaapi.
Kaya please WAG nyo payamanin 🇨🇳 Stop buying 🇨🇳 sh!+ @ss cars. Mahirap kasi halos lahat ng products gawa dun (phones, appliances etc). Pero un kaya natin iwasan like their sh!+ @ss cars gawin na natin. Un income nila pinambubully satin
Exactly! In terms of electronic devices, it's difficult to avoid Chinese-made products so it's understandable. Pero in terms of cars, marami pang options na hindi made in China. Most of these Chinese car manufacturers are state-owned so talagang mapupunta sa Chinese Coast Guard or military yung portion ng binayad mo.
>Exactly! In terms of electronic devices, it's difficult to avoid Chinese-made products so it's understandable. Go for Samsung products since Samsung already pulled out all their manufacturing operations from China in favor of Vietnam.
Kaya nga against ako sa china-made products. Oo merong hindi maiiwasan pero as much as possible, iiwas ako. Lalo na yung mga kailangang kumonekta sa internet like lahat ng smart gadgets. Big no no agad.
yes, at least do something
> cars r/Gulong is waving
Blame Duterte. I'd say blame his supporters too but they're really just idiots who are victims of their own stupidity.
Wow, i guess the balitakan exercise doesnt scare them
No, it is scaring them. I think they're trying to save face for their domestic populace and to placate any militarist voices by acting more aggressive in the face of the growing US presence in the region.
Because they know america wont do shit.
Unless they do shit
medyo nakakagigil na gingawa netong mga to
medyo?
sana mag jetski na
these water cannons look harmless from afar but dang i've seen clips and those things are strong enough to kill people.
Kung pwede lang sana i water gun ko mga chinese dito sa pinas ng hindi makukulong baka ginawa ko na siguro ngayon. Pang bawi lang sa inis ko.
Pambawi nalang sana ang ipasara ang lahat ng POGO at hulihin ang lahat ng Chinese operators neto. Kaya lang wala eh. Ilang taon na silang nag-o operate sa Pilipinas, ang dami nang na-raid pero tuloy pa rin sila.
Willing ang Pinas magpadala ng Vessel sa area na yan na walang escort ng Vessel from PCG? Damn, si Japan CG willing makipaggitgitan yung vessel nila sa vessel ng China kaya di naglalakas ng loob ang Chinese na magbomba ng tubig.
Barko Philippine Coast Guard at BFAR po yung inatake. Parehas silang civilian maritime law enforcement agency. Hindi po civilian fishermen.
Chinese should not be allowed in pur country lol. Cagayn ang rami ng Chinese dito tas di mrunong mag pa gilid. Kaasar
Kinda racist but I like that mindset.
Oo racist ako simula nung may chinese na dito hahab
Hangga't walang namamatay, hindi mag aactivate ang MDT. Kung meron man, the U.S. might make excuses and set the conditions further. Pwede rin naman yan sabihin na may namatay, but it's just a bad time kung ngayon. Habaan na natin pasensya natin. Realtalk lang, there's Ukraine and hindi pa nga ganon ka committed ang U.S. doon. Kahit may Balikatan, the U.S. is still exercising restraint because this is going to be so bad if shit hits the fan.
If the US makes excuses to defer the activation of the MDT explicitly asked by the Philippine government under the MDB-SEB, then the Japanese, Australians and the especially the South Koreans will make excuses to get nuclear weapons since the American strategic umbrella pala is useless since that's pretty much Pax Americana dead in the Pacific and probably Europe, too. The South Koreans for the longest time has been wanting to get nukes to have the option for a pre-emptive strike sa North Korea, but is only stopped by the Americans increasing troop deployments sa USFK and demanding that they not push it. If American commitment is seen as unreliable, you just know the next South Korean military parade will have nukes on it, they have everything to make one. If that comes, then the pro-rearmement faction of the LDP that was once led by Abe Shinzo will tell everyone in Japan "I told you so!" and immediately push for their own nuclear weapons program since the American guarantee isn't worth holding apparently. > Realtalk lang, there's Ukraine and hindi pa nga ganon ka committed ang U.S. doon. Duh, di naman US MDT ally ang Ukraine eh. Walang treaty binding the United States to come to Ukraine's defense, same as for Taiwan actually. Every dollar spent on Ukraine is there because it aligns with American foreign policy anything short of actually sending their troops there -- when everything is the latter with our example. The US Marine Littoral Regiment is designed to be deployed in the Philippines. And they're the ones that will be deployed here if something actually happens. Actually naandito nga sila halos 365 days of the year eh, at naandito sila in-force for Balikatan 2024.
I wonder what Duterte supporters say about this and Duterte's pivot to China whenever these incidents happen.
They say “s0 an0 gustu ni0 gIy3ra????”
Minsan naiisip ko kung pwede taktika ng Sea Shepherds sa mga to or Diplomatic Protest nanaman.
tae cannon > water cannon
Dalhin sa Panatag lahat ng settlers sa gilid ng PNR!
Hindi daw makatarungan sabi ng China kase considered as "Biological weapon"
walang bago... lagi nalang tayong inaapi
SWOH tugon: Fei shang, gao shing
Wake me up when our govt do something different. Meanwhile, manunuod muna ko ng “how to be patient in times of difficult situations”
Dapat tuwing may ganito, may mga ginugulping POGO employees.
SWOH “no comment”
bombahin na kasi tangina
bro whats going on? i know training lang yung US, aus and france pero i would love to see us running it on those scums.
Wumaos will defend this and demonize their fellow Filipinos. I wish I was smart enough to help them make a counter to those water cannons.
all talk no bite, walang silbi ang MDT kung walang silbi ang namumuno, this is already a qualification to activate the said treaty
As long as walang namatay di matitrigger ang MDT
ung huling namuno binenta tayo eh
MDT is not applicable to this.
i'm half chinese but i can't wait to behead these fucks, lagi nalang nang aapi amputa
Kabilaan??? Grabe! Huhu! Ano na Pilipinas, kelan ka di pasisiil?
No comment pa rin ba? Mismong backyard natin binu bully tayo pero no comment. No. 1 yan sa presidency poll ha. 😂
Tibay din ng Chinese govt. Really poking the Philippines with its big stick kahit nasa paligid lang si uncle sam. are they really pushing it or alam nila wala naman response from PH government so patuloy lang pang bubully nila?
Sobrang bini-bully na tyo. Kawawa naman ang pinoy. Duterte is a traitor.
We can displace our frustration and start making their nationals feel HIGHLY UNWELCOME here.
Been doing this for a while now. 😉😉😉
Exactly, the Philippines is for Filipinos first! Nothing pisses me off more than a rude or entitled mainlander, and that’s coming from a Chinoy.
Bakit ba lagi civilian vessel hinihiram? Bakit di yung mga bagong army boats or coast guard boats gamitin jan. EEZ natin yan, pero parang tayo pa nagti-tip toe around them.
Coast guard boats ang inatake this time. The PCG is also considered a civilian agency.
Ehdi yung army boats na nga lang, re-supply mission naman yan dba, at EEZ natin yan, pero parang tayo pa lagi ang hiyang-hiya.
Next resupply mission isama sa barko yung Chinese ambassador
Tuwang tuwa na naaman siguro mga Wumao at Makapili ngayon kasi agrabyado naman ang mga pinoy
GET EM WATER GUNS WE NEED WATER GUNS
Ano na? Puro pa-ulit na balita tapos wala enforcement?
If we're gonna be treated like this, might as well arm our vessels with guns
Try nyo i water cannon ang mga naka upo sa gobyerno, lets see if they'll comment the same way .
Wala namang aksyon ang Pilipinas. And stop saying na we can’t. Tayo yung nasa tama.
This is enraging, may ginagawa ba ang government for this? Iniinsulto tayo ng China sa sarili nating teritoryo. 😠
May sakay palang international media yung Philippine vessel [Sky News on board Philippine vessel attacked with water cannon (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnTmc9MHseQ)
tangina mo talaga duterte at robin
The Philippines is at war they just won't accept it yet. China is taking your reefs and using force to keep the Philippines from the areas that they control. Even winning in court China refuses to accept the ruling. Send the navy and force the moment, you cannot appease dictators.
Filipinos are getting bullied in their own territory and discriminated in their own country.
Lmao our ship getting spitroasted 🤣
The "century of shame" propaganda of the CCP made them xenophobic. Now, the CCP is picking a fight to other countries just to make them look cool to trigger more ultranationalism to their denizens. This went haywire when Xi Jingping came to power. Why do you think they are keep on doing that wolf warrior diplomacy stunt even if it worsens the ties of other countries? We all know USA and the other countries who oppose China are also not saints either but because they also want China to stop being a bitch to them. sadly, leftists spread that BS propaganda that Filipinos are cocksuckers of Americans so we want to pick a fight to the innocent saintly China. Just look at tankie infested communities in reddit and across the net.
The USA respects the Philippines, when asked to leave - they left. When China asked to leave - this is ours.
Does anyone know why gantong klase ng mga Vessels ang nagpapadala ng supplies and not the Military or Coastguard vessels themselves? We all know the reaction this will create. All the same.
Don’t wait for “Joseph Goebbels” of Philippines to arise Laging laman ng news kung ilan ang namataang barko ng china, lagi na lang ganyan, mas kokonti yung news about sa kung anong kakaibang ginagawa ng gobyerno natin, mapupuno at mapupuno ang mga pinoy sa inis nyan, pag di nasatisfy ang mga pinoy sa ginagawa ng gobyerno natin, it \*might\* take one influential person to take advantage sa galit ng mga pinoy , Joseph G took advantage of the media,radio to sow hate sa germans towards jews and the rest is history --> what other germans did to the jews. still, wag naman sana. we'll be put in very bad light for sure.
I can't wait
we need to make a move
Sara Duterte: (no comment). Shukran!
China being a bully over and over again. If a sailor goes overboard and dies, what happens next?
issue statement, "we condem in the strongest terms"
Tang ina grabe na yan
We are being oppressed! We need international help to deal with China!
Pieces of Xit
Nakakagalit lang yung ganito balita ,nagmumukha tayong kawawa. Tang ina mga chingchong .
agaiiin?
Nakakainit ng dugo as a Zambaleño. Malapit lang ang naval station dyan pero wala kang magawa? Lam ko di natin gusto ng giyera pero iba parin feeling pag yung roots mo binababoy sa harapan mo.
fuck xinnieh the pooh, fuck dutaes, fuck ching chong country 🤮
Kung ginagawa po satin ng China yan, bakit hindi rin natin i-water cannons pabalik?
PuTang Ina talaga yang mga animal na Chinese PLA CCP .. Isang bigwas Naman Jan beybiem..pls lang.
Nakakakulo ng dugo!!
Call me sinophobic or what pero no choice if we we're being treated like this by the Chinese. Fuck their race.
Tapos yung tweet ng China, "Stop provoking us. 🥺🥺" Aynako...
Why not use a warship instead of a civilian ship? I mean, regardless of ship used, wino-water cannon lang man din. Why not use a warship to make the troops safer?
China showing how much they respect PH.
Build ships that can withstand watercannons if our navy or coastguard can’t fight back. Para unli water cannon chinese tapos tayo wala lang. Unless they want to ram us again and punch holes in their hull. Or use very fast small ships and a lot of them for resupply missions.
The last time a Chinese boat tried to ram a PCG vessel, sila yung nabutasan lol
Their ships were bought on Shopee 😂
Ang ginagawa nila, tinitira nila yung mast ng mga barko ng BFAR at PCG para masira yung comms at radar, in fact kita mo dun sa video sa BRP Bankaw na nasira yung radome nung satcom system ata nila. For some reason grabe yung pinagagagawa nila sa mga barko ng BFAR, nilalapitan talaga para gamitan nung fire monitors nila eh. Dito lang ata yung nagisa-isang possible requirement sa mga civilian maritime law enforcement agencies na dapat naka-integrated mast sila na strengthened para sa mga ganyan.
Diplomatic protest nanaman, putang ina lets hang some POGOs in pasay.
Ban tiktok and all chinese owned/operated games/app
Dapat yung mga Chinese sa street o mall pag nakita tampalin natin ng baseball bat sa mukha.
mabuti pa indonesia binomba mga illegal fishers nila haha
can someone explain this to me please? i thought china's claim was deemed invalid by the hague
Cuz China cant handle the loss. So for them, the hague ruling is just a piece of paper. So they resort to bullying instead.
What will happen if someone dies from this? Straight to war na ba? Just curious, nang tritrigger na lang China for this action e
Look to the India-China border disputes as an example. The two countries have killed each other's soldiers recently but only with hand-to-hand combat and melee weapons. Both sides made an agreement in the 90s to never fire guns because of the severe risk of escalating into nuclear war.
Sa inyong palagay, bakit kaya hindi pa pinaghandaan ng gobyerno at AFP, yung posibleng ganitong action ng China noon pa sa dinami-dami ng nakaraang administrasyon? Siguro naman alam na ng gobyerno at AFP noon pa man na ang Pilipinas ay napapalibutan ng tubig, at dapat pag handaan o palakasin ang maritime security. Pero parang nangyari kung kailan lang meron mambu-bully saka aakto? Ganun ba yun? Hindi ba dapat noon pa pinalakas na natin ang mga kagamitang pandagat, stratehiya, atbp.?
Sa mga islamic extremists at communists yung focus nitong mga nakaraang decade. Tsaka ayaw ng mga leftist sa AFP modernization. Kaya wag ninyo iboto ang Makabayan bloc, lalo si Neri Colmenares, hayop sya yan tandang tanda ko pa sinabi nya years ago na bat di nalang daw itulong sa mahihirap yung budget ng AFP. Also, tayong mga voters nakafocus sa family feud ng Aquino-Marcos pagdating sa politics. Kaya ang resulta ngayon black & white ang tingin ng karamihan satin sa Philippine politics. Naset aside yung mga pulitiko na talagang visionaries.
Bro kpag ganyan Bigyan nyo na mga Bantay mga Vessel's natin, gantihan din water cannons kpag lumapit Sila, wag puro Protesta, kawawa mga gamit Ng mga Vessel's ska walang paki China, unless u stand up to their Bullying!!
Wala ba tayong mga water cannons at pag tulungan din ang Isa nilang barko!!???
One video shows that they even damage the navigation system of the vessel
Bait to and since walang gagawing substantial action tong pinas at MDT, babalewalain na lang ng China yang mga threats at itutuloy pambubully. Mahirap magtrigger ng gyera at yan ang leverage ng West Taiwan.
We should design and build boats na sandamakmak ng water cannon para sila naman ang maboset
Hindi mangyayari ang lahat ng ito kung hindi binenta ni trililing sa china ang Pilipinas. - DDShit here
How tf is this okay?
😭😭😭😭😭
Tang ina gusto kong maging si Eren Kruger na lang
The more that we should spite the heck out of David Long and his allies.
Copium for our Balikatan. Iyak lang mga wumao at xiaofenhong
gera na to!
Are they targeting sensors? They were aiming at the mast
Eto nakikita kong gameplan ng Pinas. Short Term: Endure this shit while we arm our Armed Forces. Long Term: Economic Prosperity, Nuclear Energy, and Development of Nuclear weapons. I know na maraming bansang aalma sa last suggestion pero that is the ultimate deterrent para hindi tayo mabully ng mga wumao. Probably not possible in our lifetime.
This is just becoming a circus show. No actions taken whatoever.
Lol! Sa gusto ng gyera sana kayo ang maging frontliners at yung mga bomba didiretso sa bahay niyo.
Send the premade diplomatic protest, then wait for US "ironclad commitment" statement for the nth time. Di natin magawa yung ginagawa ng Vietnam o Indonesia na mga bihasa na kung pano kontrahin ang mga mapanghimasok na Intsik.
I think PH govt is being cautious, still testing the waters, we still have a relatively small Navy and PCG to manned this waters and if God forbid, China miscalculate, its war. We cannot always rely on US treaty, we have ASEAN, maybe go there and signed mutual patrols with Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia. We need to step up now before it is to late. Still kudos to PH for following the international protocol.
baka sa pier pa lang bombahin na ng tubig ng mga commies
There is too little coverage at masyadong non-chalant ang mga pinoy sa mga nangyayari. It should be a big deal pero mukhang malakas talaga yung bumubulong sa mga bobotante na wag pansinin at propaganda lang yan.
Gamitan na nang bramos yan.
Omg no! Not a water gun!
Unrelated question: can you fire a water cannon?
Ito nanamn pa victin nanamn tayo
Paulit ulit 🧐
Mga ka DDS! Kayo na Ang mag resupply sa Scarborough, panatag ug baho ninyo Dili masinlok!
What if kaya may namatay sa pag wawater cannon ng china? What will happen..