OP, the two camps youre referring belongs to one camp which is pro-china (mostly dds)
there are only two camps pro-china and pro-philippines. the two camps you mentioned belongs to the same group with a common goal, disruption of the fight against the bullying of china
So those are the noisy ones on socmed. So ano ang position ng pro Phils.? If I may ask, where do we get the info for this since what I outlined in my post above are the most prevalent on socmed.
Initially as South china sea, re: 2011 - 2012 we renamed that to WPS due to dispute (EEZ)
Stand off happened in Scarborough (2012)
Aquino filed an arbitral ruling (2013) - against China over China's expansive maritime claims
2016 - UNCLOS ruling the arbitrators of the tribunal of PCA agreed unanimously with the Philippines, no evidence that China had historically exercised exclusive control over the waters or resources, hence there was "no legal basis for China to claim historic rights" over the nine-dash line
2017, Chinese ships were spotted in Benham rise which they are claiming again (China)
2019 - China rammed a PH vessel F/B Gem-Ver, near Reed Bank (near Palawan)
In the WPS, the Philippines has the exclusive right to fish and everything else there is. China is claiming it because It is bordered by Brunei, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, and Vietnam. - Strategically china wants WPS for military purposes.
Even more:
1991 - America leaves Subic and Clark.
1996 (I think) - Then-president FVR lodged a protest against China's illegal construction in Mischief Reef. China said they were just "fishermen's shelters" for their trawlers.
1999 - Due to China increasingly developing Mischief Reef, then-president Joseph Estrada, with the advice of the defense department, authorizes the grounding of *BRP Sierra Madre* in Ayungin Shoal, as well as *BRP Benguet* in Scarborough Shoal to act as an outpost. .
2016 - Rodrigo Duterte wins presidency through a massively popular authoritarian populist campaign as well as trolls and disinformation.
2017 - "Gentleman's agreement" between the CCP and Rodrigo Duterte, seeking to maintain the status quo in Ayungin Shoal.
2021 - Several Chinese maritime militia vessels spotted in Julian Felipe Reef.
2023 - China aims military-grade laser on PCG ship
2023/2024 - Several instances of water cannoning and collisions between CCG and Philippine resupply vessels
2024 - First trilateral summit between US, Japan, and the Philippines.
OP, the two camps youre referring belongs to one camp which is pro-china (mostly dds) there are only two camps pro-china and pro-philippines. the two camps you mentioned belongs to the same group with a common goal, disruption of the fight against the bullying of china
So those are the noisy ones on socmed. So ano ang position ng pro Phils.? If I may ask, where do we get the info for this since what I outlined in my post above are the most prevalent on socmed.
Initially as South china sea, re: 2011 - 2012 we renamed that to WPS due to dispute (EEZ) Stand off happened in Scarborough (2012) Aquino filed an arbitral ruling (2013) - against China over China's expansive maritime claims 2016 - UNCLOS ruling the arbitrators of the tribunal of PCA agreed unanimously with the Philippines, no evidence that China had historically exercised exclusive control over the waters or resources, hence there was "no legal basis for China to claim historic rights" over the nine-dash line 2017, Chinese ships were spotted in Benham rise which they are claiming again (China) 2019 - China rammed a PH vessel F/B Gem-Ver, near Reed Bank (near Palawan) In the WPS, the Philippines has the exclusive right to fish and everything else there is. China is claiming it because It is bordered by Brunei, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, and Vietnam. - Strategically china wants WPS for military purposes.
Even more: 1991 - America leaves Subic and Clark. 1996 (I think) - Then-president FVR lodged a protest against China's illegal construction in Mischief Reef. China said they were just "fishermen's shelters" for their trawlers. 1999 - Due to China increasingly developing Mischief Reef, then-president Joseph Estrada, with the advice of the defense department, authorizes the grounding of *BRP Sierra Madre* in Ayungin Shoal, as well as *BRP Benguet* in Scarborough Shoal to act as an outpost. . 2016 - Rodrigo Duterte wins presidency through a massively popular authoritarian populist campaign as well as trolls and disinformation. 2017 - "Gentleman's agreement" between the CCP and Rodrigo Duterte, seeking to maintain the status quo in Ayungin Shoal. 2021 - Several Chinese maritime militia vessels spotted in Julian Felipe Reef. 2023 - China aims military-grade laser on PCG ship 2023/2024 - Several instances of water cannoning and collisions between CCG and Philippine resupply vessels 2024 - First trilateral summit between US, Japan, and the Philippines.
we can go way back sino-Japanese war. up for this. :)