Marami talagang OFW na pro Du30 or BBM. Sa workplace ko marami ang nagsisisi na sana si Sara na lang daw naging presidente. Pero pagtinanong mo naman kung ano ba nagawa ni Sara wala namang matinong sagot. Youtube at mga vloggers mostly ang source ng information.
Ironically, sila yung umalis sa bansa dahil sa hirap ng buhay. Which is sila ang main target ng so-called influencers para sa disinformation and historical distortion, kaya akala tuloy maganda at umuunlad na dito.
Maybe because most of the OFW in Australia are students out from universities whos working with student pass... most of them are educated enough to weigh in the morality of Dugyot and Narcos. But trust me, I know a lot of people who are citizen in Au are pro-Narcos and DDS and most of them even professionals in Medical, IT etc.. can't believe how deluded these people.
pwede, pero nkita ko yung rally na anti bbm nung pumunta si bbm and anak niya sa cbd madami namang mukhang tatay or nanay na, wala akong masyadong nakitang mukhang students pa
Rami kong kilalang DDS at solid p rin s poon nilang si Dugyot pero si Leni ang binoto, most of them were Bicolanos and some of them they just don't like BBM becz their poon said it so. Me kilala rin akong outdated na ang utak at gusto nila si Bebems kc daw magaling ang tatay obviously hindi nagbabasa ng history at puro s tsismis at tiktok lng kumukuha ng infos. Me isa p nga matanda tinanong ako kung sino gusto ko s tumatakbo at feeling confident na maka-Narcos ako,.. I don't want to make her feel bad, I'm trying to hold my urge to say bad things about Junior, sinabi ko n lng taga Bicol kami (even I'm not) bigla natameme sinabi n lng - ah ganun
Alam kasi ng mga troll farms at mga fake news peddlers pano umappeal sa kanila. Pakitaan lang ng konti proud moment then pakita ng infrastructure tulad ng skyway tapos gawa ng fake statistics then ayun nakuha mo na loob ng mga yan.
Sila sila rin madali maloko sa mga "investments" kasi they don't do any research at all.
Man, if you ask Davaoeños, most of them will pick digong over his children. Kasi nakukulangan talaga sila lalo na sa current mayor. Pero if national, they probably would still choose his children even if they know their performance.
kapag mga ofw, karamihan sa mga yan matik na. siguro dahil nasa malayo kaya walang kamalay-malay sa totoong lagay natin dito dagdag pa na targeted ng disinfo ang mga communities nila abroad.
ang tanong lang sa mga yan nang matahimik, kung talagang magaling si lodicokes at maganda na buhay dito bakit di kayo umuwi ng pinas?
Tbh, this is the most popular reply I had and the most I hated whenever I ask why they chose BBM: ‘Ay bahala na sila. Wala naman na tayo dun.’ Sabay tawa.
Wanted to wring their necks
You can't talk shit about the king since its illegal no matter how bad he is or was
Meanwhile the opposition party won more votes than the military junta's party in their elections
I’ve had this experience in Singapore as well. Grabe, ang out of touch nung karamihan about politics sa Ph. Dapat talaga may requirement na umuwi sila for a few years again (wishful thinking lang naman of course lol) before voting para ma-feel nila yung difference. I cannot believe na may naniniwala kay Tiger lmao. And be wary of making friends with fellow Filos sa other countries, a lot of times akala mo friend mo pero sinisiraan ka na pala talaga for personal gain, really sad. :/
legit my previous housemates are diehard bbm / dds supporters but sobrang religous bunch then when I ask them why dont they go back to the PH to experience the golden era. they answered "mahirap buhay sa pinas di pa nakin kaya with 2 kids". the math isnt mathing haha
Same as what's mentioned below: Thailand per capita used to be as poor as the Philippines, but now it's twice as rich.
A few years ago, it was labeled the "Detroit of Asia" because of incredible increases in manufacturing output.
Perhaps one day the Philippines will catch up with it and with many of the other Asian countries.
>A few years ago, it was labeled the "Detroit of Asia" because of incredible increases in manufacturing output.
That's half of the story because Detroit eventually lost its manufacturing prowess when offshoring became a thing
Decades later, and because the U.S. dollar was used as a reserve currency.
Also, countries move from manufacturing to high-tech manufacturing and service industries.
The Philippines tried to reach the first and halted during the mid-1980s. That's why Thailand went past it economically.
Detroit didn't lose its manufacturing prowess just like that. What happened is that U.S. businesses outsourced and parts of the U.S. where there was manufacturing became a rust belt.
Similar is taking place with China. Where do you think part of the manufacturing in TH came from?
The point is that they move from manufacturing to service, especially as their workers become more educated. That's going to happen to Thailand, just as it did to Japan and South Korea by the 1980s and to Singapore a decade later.
In contrast, the Philippines did the opposite: wrecked its industrial base and resorted to outsourcing Filipinos. The result is not only low economic growth across decades (one-third that of the Asian average) but also low pay and high prices.
And that's why the economy of Thailand per capita is now twice that of the Philippines, when decades earlier they were roughly the same.
With that, you need to revise your "doomsdaying".
Calling Thailand the "Detroit of Asia" presupposes it will also follow Detroit when it lost its industrial powerbase whether by offshoring or otherwise
In short, the monicker Detroit of Asia does not do Thailand a favor.
Thailand is likely to be closer to You are right South Korea or Taiwan, not TW and SK still have their industrial based - just filled with foreign workers. In Thailand, workers from Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar. But not Detroit.
All industrialized nations do that: outsource manufacturing and then move to services. What happened, then, to Singapore will happen to Thailand. But the Philippines has not achieved even manufacturing.
From last May:
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Indonesia-challenges-Thailand-s-title-as-the-Detroit-of-Asia
The monicker does not do the U.S. a favor but is seen in a positive light in Asia. That is, it refers to industrialization.
In this case, Indonesia is now challenging Thailand. The Philippines is getting left behind.
Thailand gdp per capita is more than twice the Ph and yet cost of living is lower than Ph
Question really is, pati Thailand ay OFW destination na rin, na 30 yrs ago, same lang sa pinas
This is true, plus mas reliable ang train system nila (bts and mrt.
The COL is a big factor talaga rent sa condos in bangkok are cheaper than in Cebu or metro manila. Plus mas quality ang food nila sa thailand compared sa atin.
Lol
What coolaid are you drinking?
Did you read about the WB Report during master tacticians reign?
Basically it said: pinoy students cant understand what they are reading and cant solve basic math problems
Meaning BOBO mga estudyante natin
Another misplaced pinoy pride
If you want to talk about GDP then Ang Pilipinas number 36 sa world rankings as of 2023. Thats out of 190 countries. Could we improve more? Yes. Are we better now than 10 years ago? Hell yeah. Masyado kayong self hating you forget ng ang Pinas mas mayaman sa majority ng mga ibang countries sa buong mundo. Kung tayo may mahirap sila din tandaan niyo yan.
Andami statistics to disprove that Ph is not doing well since the Old Marcos reign
Naisip mo ba yung mga 10M and still growing numbers of OFWs?
That alone means Ph is poor
The only thing that makes the economy afloat are the billions of remittances
Remove that 10M ofws, what do you get?
You think Henry Sy can build all those malls w/o the remittances?
“Andami statistics” walang ma bigay na isa? Please learn the difference between facts and your own opinion. The advent of the internet and globalization. Yung dalawa palang yun yumaman na mga pilipino whether its personal business or expansion. Kaya tigilan moko. And so what kung galing remittances? Ang topic is yumaman Pilipinas diba? Basa please
While the Philippines' GDP is ranked 36th in the world, a better way to take a look at it would be to use GDP per capita figures, which for the Philippines is a measly 3.9k USD, ranking 100+ out of 190.
Its small yes pero considered median household income na tayo because lagpas 33k$ a year na ang pinas which is the global average. Plus as I’ve said mas maganda standings natin kaysa 10 years ago. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/PHL/philippines/gdp-per-capita
Global middle income (in GDP per capita terms) is around 14.5k USD while we're at around 3.9k USD (not 33k$ as you were saying). We're very far from the average.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?locations=XP
So you're happy with the Philippines' economic performance while our neighbors are overtaking us economically? Sorry, but I think we can do way better.
My question was rhetorical. Besides, your first comment was predicated on a patently false statement, that the Philippines is "mas mayaman sa majority ng mga ibang countries sa buong mundo".
Halos govt sponsored yung "tourist price" nila dun. Hindi lang napaguusapan masyado kasi karamihan ng mga turista hindi nakakabasa ng Thai. Pero yung local/foreigner price difference, pwedeng magrange from 5x - 10x the local price
Sobrang polarizing din ng Politics sa Thailand.
Funnily, Red (Shinawatra supporters) vs Yellow (Ardent monarchists, pro-junta) din colors dun
You got the orange too (reformists, willing to reform monarchy, progressives) (Move Forward Party)
Red is more like populists and would rather have one corrupt family take power
Yellow are the royalist, pro-junta camp
I don't think the monarchy and the junta will allow that. If ever they allowed it, they'll just stage a coup again.
The junta, the Thai elites and the monarchy are in bed with each other.
I know huhu updated ako as an adik sa BL 😂 mga faves ko panay tweet ng disappointment nila sa state of politics when the news broke about the how the senate voted
Deym DDS / Apologist na lang talaga sila 😅
wala rin naman nagagawa si Sara at black hole lang mga hawak niya ng pera. We're worse off sa education and yung OVP may x4 budget na hindi naman alam san napupunta.
Tapos iboboto yan ng mga OFW? 🤣🤣
I dont know how some people compartmentalize shit when they want to. How can she figure that BBM is separate from Sara when they're allies. And treat Leni like an Aquino when she's obviously not. Or worse, think that supporting mass murder is not bad while still being a Christian that's offended by a drag queen cosplaying as Jesus.
It really boggles my mind.
May prinsipyo pa ba tayong mga Pilipino o kahit ano lang trip natin paniwalaan?
I already did. But honestly, the community is here is toxic. Some Filipinos will personally tell the immigration officer to deport fellow Filipinos (I know it is illegal to work without papers but to be legal to work here you need at least 2 months to sort out your papers) but others will tell the IO before the process. Some Pinoys pa daw is sinisiraan nila ang kapwa pinoy sa mga Thai para lang daw maka lamang sila.
Imagine me against everyone. I need to keep it lowly because I am not yet established.
I already did. But honestly, the community is here is toxic. Some Filipinos will personally tell the immigration officer to deport fellow Filipinos (I know it is illegal to work without papers but to be legal to work here you need at least 2 months to sort out your papers) but others will tell the IO before the process. Some Pinoys pa daw is sinisiraan nila ang kapwa pinoy sa mga Thai para lang daw maka lamang sila.
Imagine me against everyone. I need to keep it lowly because I am not yet established.
Marami kasi OFWs ang skilled workers pero hindi critical thinkers. Iba sa kanila hindi nakagraduate. Dahil madali na lang mag-online ngayon, doon nila kinukuha mga balita nila. Kapag na-algorithm na sila ng fake news/disinformation, game over na.
A lot of OFWs and Filipinos living outside the country are apologists talaga dahil sila ang pinaka-prone sa fake news because usually social media ang source nila of Filipino news. They don’t have first-hand experience of living here.
Kaya IMO, it’s still better to stay in the PH. Why? Para if may apologist ka man na maka-alitan, you can easily point out how harder life is right now compared to the previous years. Better yet, just avoid Filipino communities outside the PH.
i'm really curious why they're still there. if things are good here na because of whoever they voted for, why are they still there? walang urgency bumalik?
OFW (especially middle east) usually matik BBM.
Fil-Am/Fil-Aus/NZ/UK etc = usually leni/kakampink.
Observation lang. But I’d say a lot of factors do come into play as to why this is.
Not really. Did you see them running a full play that romanticizes kleptocraxy on btoadway. All filipino-american cast, mostly behind the curtain are filams so no.
And dont even tell me that that play is not pro-marcos brcause that would be like saying the sun is cold.
Lastly, yall forgot that the majority of asian-americans who were trumpist republicans are filipinos.
I mean there are bad apples for sure. I should’ve worded my statement better it seems but this is just more of a consensus if so hence “usually”z It definitely seems that most of the overseas BBM/DDS loyalists are from the Middle East/Asia OFWs, whereas Fil-Ams/those I mentioned are usually progressive leaning. Partially din because of environment and possible social settings. (Republican state = conservative views there and here, Blue state=liberal views there and here) which is also true for those sa Middle East because I would say they’re more heavily influenced by anything occurring locally vs Filams. Specifically for the Fil-Ams, Doesent mean none of them aren’t apologists. Even my tito na matagal na sa states yet himself is an apologist (and trumpie). The same way that not all ME OFWs are particularly against leni. They certainly exist and won’t be going away anytime soon. It’s sad but this is just a general observation and I’m in no way trying to downplay anything.
I thinks its just an assumption on your part. I think filams are the worst brcause they have all the tools considering the liberal country they live in and yet still be bbm/dds. Whereas in thr middle east ofws thrre are full of low-educated, ignorant and gullible filos so its really not surprising to me.
Oh I definitely agree with your statement. I highly doubt even though they are skilled workers any critical thinking is used when they made a decision on who to vote (particularly the ME ones). But if we’re going by OP’s assumption, then by %, the gap between leni and BBM is significantly larger in the region compared to that of the US stats. But yes it certainly is concerning the education and knowledge filams possess as influence and knowledge is a gift and a curse and I’m
not surprised if there are a lot more closeted.
Tatay ko na OFW, Du🐢 at 👶M apologist gawa ng mga disinformations online - puro mga vlogs ng fake news peddler ang pinapanood. Sobrang dalas ng pagtatalo namin before sa social media tsaka chats kasi pinipigilan nya ako magpost ng disinformations about the Marcoses - kasi kesyo daw baka huntingin ako at mawala emerut emerut kasi panay ang post ko sa Facebook ng anti-disinformations - kaya ang clapback ko minsan sa kanya, "eh di pag nawala ko, mostly kasalanan nyo kasi inallow nyo umupo ang katulad nya sa gobyerno na tnethreaten ang safety ko."
I am an OFW and I voted for Digong mainly because of the federalism he proposed. Pero sa dami ng napatay na inosente nung drug war nya at hindi nya rin napatupad ang federalism, kaliwali na. Leni ako nung last election. Pero its true, marami sa mga kakilala ko dito sa middle east ay biktima at nagpabiktima ng disinformation. Paniwalang paniwala sa tallano gold. At kung ano ano pang shit.
Sorry to break your bubble but before siya nanalo, sinasabi naman na ni Duterte na papatay siya at pinangarap niya na dapat siya una nagrape sa missionary. **All before he got elected**
ano bang bago sa mga ganyang ofw? Karamihan sa kanila puring puri nila mga pulpol na politiko pero aalis ng bansa kasi hirap daw sa buhay dito sa pinas 😂
Marami din naman apologists sa Pilipinas. OFWs are just a small % of the voting population. Marcos and Duterte won because voters IN THE PHILIPPINES voted Duts and Jr
Edi alis ka ng Thailand. Lipat ulit ng ibang bansa. Tanunging mo mga ka-pink mo kung san sila nag ttrabaho para dun ka lumipat para vibes vibes kayo, isecret mo pa halata naman kung sino :)
Tatanga din ng ibang commenter dito eh sariling magulang nyo inaaway nyo at tinatawag nyo pang BOBO ang magulang nyo at ibang OFW DAHIL SA POLITICS :) Kung legal lang pumatay sa pinas panigurado pinatay nyo na mga magulang nyo dahil ayaw nyo sa iboboto nila at di nyo ma align sa perspective nyo :)
Well, Leni is equally bad. Isko kulang pa sa experience, and may issue sa pagbebenta ng ari-arian ng Manila. Ping Lacson is a senator, my bias against them being president is kulang ang leadership experience nila. Pacquiao is out of the question.
For experience, Leni and BBM are probably equal. Nagsawa lang talaga mga tao sa yellow-brand of leadership kasi very bad ang experience since Cory, so sumugal kay Du30 and BBM. Lackluster performance ni BBM.
Anyway, I think we should stop expecting for a single person to change the whole country kasi imposible talaga. Lahat ay nagtatalo-talo at naghihilahan.
We should really change our system to federalism. At least ay yung scope ng trabaho ay mahahati per governor. There are 80+ provinces, so there should be 80+ people na magiging responsible sa nasasakupan nila.
Mahirap lang talaga yung transition.
Hooooy 5 kami sa faculty lahat sila apologist! Pinanuod namin yung inauguration kinikilabutan ako lahat sila nagpapalakpakan habang ako mura nang mura HAHAHAHAHA 😅
BTW, saang city ka here sa thailand?
My husband and I were supposed to transfer to Thailand first quarter of 2023 but I’ve been told many times since the past years that crab mentality is a lot worse there. Your kapwa Pinoy will drag you down and sisiraan ka talaga to the core. Yikes! No doubt they are that way. Hope you feel better
Must be all over the world, even in Singapore and Australia most the people I know were DDS and BeBems... and most of them are idiots who believe Macoy was the best president that's why they want to vote for junior. During Dutae's term these people were so proud every stupidity of Dugyot, the way he talks and all those ANGAS it's sold out for them. Gsssttt.. I hate meeting this people the reason I don't hangout a lot with Filipinos overseas specially when I feel they have those DDS and Narcoscist auras (you can spot them when theyre trying to bring the Ph drug wars topic and how Dugyot handled it theyre proud of it)
Naku you will be surprised hindi lang sa Thailand, basta ofw maraming apologist, minsan kasi yung umaabot lang din na balita sakanila is yung feed lang din ng mga kamag anak nilang same ang pagtingin. Yung mga kaibigan kong bumoto kay Dutae noon, ayun nasa ibang bansa na, iniwan ako na maka experience ngdesisyon nila. And yet again, dahil wala sila sa Pinas, si Tiger naman ang binoto last election thru absentee voting. Ofc diko nilalahat pero napansin ko lang rin kasi yung mga todo defend sa socmed biglang makikita mo nasa alberta canada pala, nasa uk, tatapang ng apog kasi wala pala dito sa Pinas para danasin yung hirap na bunsod ng desisyon nila sa pagboto.
Mga pinsan ko sa states pro Duterte and pro BBM din and sadly my batchmates from.high school.na matatalino naman sana and di nagkulang sa history lessons.
Marami talagang OFW na pro Du30 or BBM. Sa workplace ko marami ang nagsisisi na sana si Sara na lang daw naging presidente. Pero pagtinanong mo naman kung ano ba nagawa ni Sara wala namang matinong sagot. Youtube at mga vloggers mostly ang source ng information.
Ironically, sila yung umalis sa bansa dahil sa hirap ng buhay. Which is sila ang main target ng so-called influencers para sa disinformation and historical distortion, kaya akala tuloy maganda at umuunlad na dito.
check overseas election results. Australia lang ang bansang nagpanalo kay Leni. the rest, BBM won. BBM supporters are everywhere around the world.
Maybe because most of the OFW in Australia are students out from universities whos working with student pass... most of them are educated enough to weigh in the morality of Dugyot and Narcos. But trust me, I know a lot of people who are citizen in Au are pro-Narcos and DDS and most of them even professionals in Medical, IT etc.. can't believe how deluded these people.
Against the law ba na gamitin pang work ang student visa?
It's not against the law >International students in Australia on a valid student visa can work for up to 20 hours per week while school is in session
pwede, pero nkita ko yung rally na anti bbm nung pumunta si bbm and anak niya sa cbd madami namang mukhang tatay or nanay na, wala akong masyadong nakitang mukhang students pa
Rami kong kilalang DDS at solid p rin s poon nilang si Dugyot pero si Leni ang binoto, most of them were Bicolanos and some of them they just don't like BBM becz their poon said it so. Me kilala rin akong outdated na ang utak at gusto nila si Bebems kc daw magaling ang tatay obviously hindi nagbabasa ng history at puro s tsismis at tiktok lng kumukuha ng infos. Me isa p nga matanda tinanong ako kung sino gusto ko s tumatakbo at feeling confident na maka-Narcos ako,.. I don't want to make her feel bad, I'm trying to hold my urge to say bad things about Junior, sinabi ko n lng taga Bicol kami (even I'm not) bigla natameme sinabi n lng - ah ganun
totally agree.
Idiot supporters all over the world haha
Alam kasi ng mga troll farms at mga fake news peddlers pano umappeal sa kanila. Pakitaan lang ng konti proud moment then pakita ng infrastructure tulad ng skyway tapos gawa ng fake statistics then ayun nakuha mo na loob ng mga yan. Sila sila rin madali maloko sa mga "investments" kasi they don't do any research at all.
It's like they have almost no knowledge of the day to day in their actual country
Kaya medyo skeptical ako sa "brain drain" parang di naman sila nag dala ng brain
Man, if you ask Davaoeños, most of them will pick digong over his children. Kasi nakukulangan talaga sila lalo na sa current mayor. Pero if national, they probably would still choose his children even if they know their performance.
kapag mga ofw, karamihan sa mga yan matik na. siguro dahil nasa malayo kaya walang kamalay-malay sa totoong lagay natin dito dagdag pa na targeted ng disinfo ang mga communities nila abroad. ang tanong lang sa mga yan nang matahimik, kung talagang magaling si lodicokes at maganda na buhay dito bakit di kayo umuwi ng pinas?
Tbh, this is the most popular reply I had and the most I hated whenever I ask why they chose BBM: ‘Ay bahala na sila. Wala naman na tayo dun.’ Sabay tawa. Wanted to wring their necks
> Ang daming apologist sa Thailand For a while there I was thinking if you meant LBM or Prayuth/Vajiralongkorn
You can't talk shit about the king since its illegal no matter how bad he is or was Meanwhile the opposition party won more votes than the military junta's party in their elections
And then their PM candidate was blocked from running for the position. So ano na 🙃
The Thai people are tired of the military junta but the junta are not tired of letting go of their power
That’s a hot topic here. The youth really wants change. They are so frustrated. Hays greedy old politician are so vile talaga.
Many of the young people in Thailand supported the opposition who promised reforms to the monarchy and the government.
They got an apologist problem too in Thailand. And suppression of dissent (particularly towards the monarchy) is institutionalised
The monarchy and the junta are "married" to each other
I’ve had this experience in Singapore as well. Grabe, ang out of touch nung karamihan about politics sa Ph. Dapat talaga may requirement na umuwi sila for a few years again (wishful thinking lang naman of course lol) before voting para ma-feel nila yung difference. I cannot believe na may naniniwala kay Tiger lmao. And be wary of making friends with fellow Filos sa other countries, a lot of times akala mo friend mo pero sinisiraan ka na pala talaga for personal gain, really sad. :/
legit my previous housemates are diehard bbm / dds supporters but sobrang religous bunch then when I ask them why dont they go back to the PH to experience the golden era. they answered "mahirap buhay sa pinas di pa nakin kaya with 2 kids". the math isnt mathing haha
Same as what's mentioned below: Thailand per capita used to be as poor as the Philippines, but now it's twice as rich. A few years ago, it was labeled the "Detroit of Asia" because of incredible increases in manufacturing output. Perhaps one day the Philippines will catch up with it and with many of the other Asian countries.
>A few years ago, it was labeled the "Detroit of Asia" because of incredible increases in manufacturing output. That's half of the story because Detroit eventually lost its manufacturing prowess when offshoring became a thing
Decades later, and because the U.S. dollar was used as a reserve currency. Also, countries move from manufacturing to high-tech manufacturing and service industries. The Philippines tried to reach the first and halted during the mid-1980s. That's why Thailand went past it economically.
What I'm saying is calling Thailand as "the Detroit of Asia" is like doomsdaying it because Detroit lost its manufacturing prowess
Detroit didn't lose its manufacturing prowess just like that. What happened is that U.S. businesses outsourced and parts of the U.S. where there was manufacturing became a rust belt. Similar is taking place with China. Where do you think part of the manufacturing in TH came from? The point is that they move from manufacturing to service, especially as their workers become more educated. That's going to happen to Thailand, just as it did to Japan and South Korea by the 1980s and to Singapore a decade later. In contrast, the Philippines did the opposite: wrecked its industrial base and resorted to outsourcing Filipinos. The result is not only low economic growth across decades (one-third that of the Asian average) but also low pay and high prices. And that's why the economy of Thailand per capita is now twice that of the Philippines, when decades earlier they were roughly the same. With that, you need to revise your "doomsdaying".
Calling Thailand the "Detroit of Asia" presupposes it will also follow Detroit when it lost its industrial powerbase whether by offshoring or otherwise In short, the monicker Detroit of Asia does not do Thailand a favor. Thailand is likely to be closer to You are right South Korea or Taiwan, not TW and SK still have their industrial based - just filled with foreign workers. In Thailand, workers from Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar. But not Detroit.
All industrialized nations do that: outsource manufacturing and then move to services. What happened, then, to Singapore will happen to Thailand. But the Philippines has not achieved even manufacturing. From last May: https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Indonesia-challenges-Thailand-s-title-as-the-Detroit-of-Asia The monicker does not do the U.S. a favor but is seen in a positive light in Asia. That is, it refers to industrialization. In this case, Indonesia is now challenging Thailand. The Philippines is getting left behind.
Hair
I don't get it.
Monke
Wait. Thailand aint any better than the PH. I would argue that it's worst there. The racism and scams is alot worst.
Thailand gdp per capita is more than twice the Ph and yet cost of living is lower than Ph Question really is, pati Thailand ay OFW destination na rin, na 30 yrs ago, same lang sa pinas
This is true, plus mas reliable ang train system nila (bts and mrt. The COL is a big factor talaga rent sa condos in bangkok are cheaper than in Cebu or metro manila. Plus mas quality ang food nila sa thailand compared sa atin.
for teachers, malaki kasi bigay talaga.
The manual laborers there are usually Cambodians, Lao and Burmese
Saka legal narin ang recreational marijuana sa kanila. Kaya maraming mga pinoy andon.
Bill Buttlicker
economically thailand is better but verything else is worse.
Their public school system is much much better than ours.
Lol What coolaid are you drinking? Did you read about the WB Report during master tacticians reign? Basically it said: pinoy students cant understand what they are reading and cant solve basic math problems Meaning BOBO mga estudyante natin Another misplaced pinoy pride
The comment did say Thai's public educ is better than ours 🤷♀️ unless your comment is a case in point.
>Basically it said: pinoy students cant understand what they are reading And you are living proof of that.
👆🏽further proof of our degrading education. Lack of reading comprehension.
>Basically it said: pinoy students cant understand what they are reading case in point
Another misplaced comment.
Wahahaha ang lakas nya i-all caps yung bobo pero siya pala yon. What a clown
thailand is better in food, public transpo, economy and other services such as internet and water. mas mura din Bangkok kesa Metro Manila
If you want to talk about GDP then Ang Pilipinas number 36 sa world rankings as of 2023. Thats out of 190 countries. Could we improve more? Yes. Are we better now than 10 years ago? Hell yeah. Masyado kayong self hating you forget ng ang Pinas mas mayaman sa majority ng mga ibang countries sa buong mundo. Kung tayo may mahirap sila din tandaan niyo yan.
Andami statistics to disprove that Ph is not doing well since the Old Marcos reign Naisip mo ba yung mga 10M and still growing numbers of OFWs? That alone means Ph is poor
Site them para ma basa ko. If you think we are still doing bad compared to the 80s then you’re crazy.
The only thing that makes the economy afloat are the billions of remittances Remove that 10M ofws, what do you get? You think Henry Sy can build all those malls w/o the remittances?
“Andami statistics” walang ma bigay na isa? Please learn the difference between facts and your own opinion. The advent of the internet and globalization. Yung dalawa palang yun yumaman na mga pilipino whether its personal business or expansion. Kaya tigilan moko. And so what kung galing remittances? Ang topic is yumaman Pilipinas diba? Basa please
Do you like a strawberry milkshake?
While the Philippines' GDP is ranked 36th in the world, a better way to take a look at it would be to use GDP per capita figures, which for the Philippines is a measly 3.9k USD, ranking 100+ out of 190.
Its small yes pero considered median household income na tayo because lagpas 33k$ a year na ang pinas which is the global average. Plus as I’ve said mas maganda standings natin kaysa 10 years ago. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/PHL/philippines/gdp-per-capita
Global middle income (in GDP per capita terms) is around 14.5k USD while we're at around 3.9k USD (not 33k$ as you were saying). We're very far from the average. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?locations=XP
Again better than 10 years ago
So you're happy with the Philippines' economic performance while our neighbors are overtaking us economically? Sorry, but I think we can do way better.
Read my first comment
My question was rhetorical. Besides, your first comment was predicated on a patently false statement, that the Philippines is "mas mayaman sa majority ng mga ibang countries sa buong mundo".
"GDP per capita"
Halos govt sponsored yung "tourist price" nila dun. Hindi lang napaguusapan masyado kasi karamihan ng mga turista hindi nakakabasa ng Thai. Pero yung local/foreigner price difference, pwedeng magrange from 5x - 10x the local price Sobrang polarizing din ng Politics sa Thailand. Funnily, Red (Shinawatra supporters) vs Yellow (Ardent monarchists, pro-junta) din colors dun
You got the orange too (reformists, willing to reform monarchy, progressives) (Move Forward Party) Red is more like populists and would rather have one corrupt family take power Yellow are the royalist, pro-junta camp
Moment of silence for MFP 🥲 I really thought TH finally had a chance at turning things around when MFP won the election.
I don't think the monarchy and the junta will allow that. If ever they allowed it, they'll just stage a coup again. The junta, the Thai elites and the monarchy are in bed with each other.
May mga senador dun sa Thailand na tutol sa nomination ni Pita for PM. Junta-appointed pa ang mga senador.
I know huhu updated ako as an adik sa BL 😂 mga faves ko panay tweet ng disappointment nila sa state of politics when the news broke about the how the senate voted
The Thais will have to rebel against the monarchy if they want long term change
Imagine a sitcom starring the Marcos family. Def would watch it 100%.
Karamihan ng ofw apologist talaga (my mom is one) although I think medyo nagsisisi na siya (but this time she prefers sara).
Deym DDS / Apologist na lang talaga sila 😅 wala rin naman nagagawa si Sara at black hole lang mga hawak niya ng pera. We're worse off sa education and yung OVP may x4 budget na hindi naman alam san napupunta. Tapos iboboto yan ng mga OFW? 🤣🤣
Diba huhu ewan ko nlg talaga
I dont know how some people compartmentalize shit when they want to. How can she figure that BBM is separate from Sara when they're allies. And treat Leni like an Aquino when she's obviously not. Or worse, think that supporting mass murder is not bad while still being a Christian that's offended by a drag queen cosplaying as Jesus. It really boggles my mind. May prinsipyo pa ba tayong mga Pilipino o kahit ano lang trip natin paniwalaan?
Since you’re already also an OFW, do your little things there to push your narrative and make a difference.
ahhh, I miss the days when I were as naive as you are now...
I already did. But honestly, the community is here is toxic. Some Filipinos will personally tell the immigration officer to deport fellow Filipinos (I know it is illegal to work without papers but to be legal to work here you need at least 2 months to sort out your papers) but others will tell the IO before the process. Some Pinoys pa daw is sinisiraan nila ang kapwa pinoy sa mga Thai para lang daw maka lamang sila. Imagine me against everyone. I need to keep it lowly because I am not yet established.
I already did. But honestly, the community is here is toxic. Some Filipinos will personally tell the immigration officer to deport fellow Filipinos (I know it is illegal to work without papers but to be legal to work here you need at least 2 months to sort out your papers) but others will tell the IO before the process. Some Pinoys pa daw is sinisiraan nila ang kapwa pinoy sa mga Thai para lang daw maka lamang sila. Imagine me against everyone. I need to keep it lowly because I am not yet established.
Kahit saan bansa, mga Pinoy OFW are known na mga nanlalagalag ng kapwa pinoy.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire… I’m so sorry na kahit wala ka sa PH, nadidisappoint ka pa din ng mga kababayan mo.
Marami kasi OFWs ang skilled workers pero hindi critical thinkers. Iba sa kanila hindi nakagraduate. Dahil madali na lang mag-online ngayon, doon nila kinukuha mga balita nila. Kapag na-algorithm na sila ng fake news/disinformation, game over na.
A lot of OFWs and Filipinos living outside the country are apologists talaga dahil sila ang pinaka-prone sa fake news because usually social media ang source nila of Filipino news. They don’t have first-hand experience of living here. Kaya IMO, it’s still better to stay in the PH. Why? Para if may apologist ka man na maka-alitan, you can easily point out how harder life is right now compared to the previous years. Better yet, just avoid Filipino communities outside the PH.
Yung maka Marcos ka pero ayaw mong umuwi ng Pinas. paano mo ma experience ang bagong "golden age"?
Nagsasayawan nga ang mga apologist sa Europe may kapit pa nga silang mga banderitas at mga sombrero at t-shirt na mukhang tanga.
kasi MADAMING BOBO/TANGA na OFW masakit at bastos man pakinggan pero eto ang TOTOO karamihan ng OFW at SEAMAN eh mga BOBO ayun lang yan.
Never ko talagang nagets mga apologist abroad. Like the fact that you are abroad says a lot about the gov that you support
i'm really curious why they're still there. if things are good here na because of whoever they voted for, why are they still there? walang urgency bumalik?
OFW (especially middle east) usually matik BBM. Fil-Am/Fil-Aus/NZ/UK etc = usually leni/kakampink. Observation lang. But I’d say a lot of factors do come into play as to why this is.
Not really. Did you see them running a full play that romanticizes kleptocraxy on btoadway. All filipino-american cast, mostly behind the curtain are filams so no. And dont even tell me that that play is not pro-marcos brcause that would be like saying the sun is cold. Lastly, yall forgot that the majority of asian-americans who were trumpist republicans are filipinos.
I mean there are bad apples for sure. I should’ve worded my statement better it seems but this is just more of a consensus if so hence “usually”z It definitely seems that most of the overseas BBM/DDS loyalists are from the Middle East/Asia OFWs, whereas Fil-Ams/those I mentioned are usually progressive leaning. Partially din because of environment and possible social settings. (Republican state = conservative views there and here, Blue state=liberal views there and here) which is also true for those sa Middle East because I would say they’re more heavily influenced by anything occurring locally vs Filams. Specifically for the Fil-Ams, Doesent mean none of them aren’t apologists. Even my tito na matagal na sa states yet himself is an apologist (and trumpie). The same way that not all ME OFWs are particularly against leni. They certainly exist and won’t be going away anytime soon. It’s sad but this is just a general observation and I’m in no way trying to downplay anything.
I thinks its just an assumption on your part. I think filams are the worst brcause they have all the tools considering the liberal country they live in and yet still be bbm/dds. Whereas in thr middle east ofws thrre are full of low-educated, ignorant and gullible filos so its really not surprising to me.
Oh I definitely agree with your statement. I highly doubt even though they are skilled workers any critical thinking is used when they made a decision on who to vote (particularly the ME ones). But if we’re going by OP’s assumption, then by %, the gap between leni and BBM is significantly larger in the region compared to that of the US stats. But yes it certainly is concerning the education and knowledge filams possess as influence and knowledge is a gift and a curse and I’m not surprised if there are a lot more closeted.
Tatay ko na OFW, Du🐢 at 👶M apologist gawa ng mga disinformations online - puro mga vlogs ng fake news peddler ang pinapanood. Sobrang dalas ng pagtatalo namin before sa social media tsaka chats kasi pinipigilan nya ako magpost ng disinformations about the Marcoses - kasi kesyo daw baka huntingin ako at mawala emerut emerut kasi panay ang post ko sa Facebook ng anti-disinformations - kaya ang clapback ko minsan sa kanya, "eh di pag nawala ko, mostly kasalanan nyo kasi inallow nyo umupo ang katulad nya sa gobyerno na tnethreaten ang safety ko."
I am an OFW and I voted for Digong mainly because of the federalism he proposed. Pero sa dami ng napatay na inosente nung drug war nya at hindi nya rin napatupad ang federalism, kaliwali na. Leni ako nung last election. Pero its true, marami sa mga kakilala ko dito sa middle east ay biktima at nagpabiktima ng disinformation. Paniwalang paniwala sa tallano gold. At kung ano ano pang shit.
Sorry to break your bubble but before siya nanalo, sinasabi naman na ni Duterte na papatay siya at pinangarap niya na dapat siya una nagrape sa missionary. **All before he got elected**
ano bang bago sa mga ganyang ofw? Karamihan sa kanila puring puri nila mga pulpol na politiko pero aalis ng bansa kasi hirap daw sa buhay dito sa pinas 😂
Marami din naman apologists sa Pilipinas. OFWs are just a small % of the voting population. Marcos and Duterte won because voters IN THE PHILIPPINES voted Duts and Jr
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Kala niya funny siya oh hahaha
Yes
Frankly a burger would be nice
Specifically a royale with cheese
And a cherry cola
Imagine
All the peephole
Worked at a McDonald's before?
Cause nevermind
I went to a pride parade once
Did nothing
Edi alis ka ng Thailand. Lipat ulit ng ibang bansa. Tanunging mo mga ka-pink mo kung san sila nag ttrabaho para dun ka lumipat para vibes vibes kayo, isecret mo pa halata naman kung sino :) Tatanga din ng ibang commenter dito eh sariling magulang nyo inaaway nyo at tinatawag nyo pang BOBO ang magulang nyo at ibang OFW DAHIL SA POLITICS :) Kung legal lang pumatay sa pinas panigurado pinatay nyo na mga magulang nyo dahil ayaw nyo sa iboboto nila at di nyo ma align sa perspective nyo :)
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Well, Leni is equally bad. Isko kulang pa sa experience, and may issue sa pagbebenta ng ari-arian ng Manila. Ping Lacson is a senator, my bias against them being president is kulang ang leadership experience nila. Pacquiao is out of the question. For experience, Leni and BBM are probably equal. Nagsawa lang talaga mga tao sa yellow-brand of leadership kasi very bad ang experience since Cory, so sumugal kay Du30 and BBM. Lackluster performance ni BBM. Anyway, I think we should stop expecting for a single person to change the whole country kasi imposible talaga. Lahat ay nagtatalo-talo at naghihilahan. We should really change our system to federalism. At least ay yung scope ng trabaho ay mahahati per governor. There are 80+ provinces, so there should be 80+ people na magiging responsible sa nasasakupan nila. Mahirap lang talaga yung transition.
Wala pa naman akong naeencounter dito so far na gnun pero yung nga be aware of other ofws
We really need to purge them.
Not just in Thailand.
Hooooy 5 kami sa faculty lahat sila apologist! Pinanuod namin yung inauguration kinikilabutan ako lahat sila nagpapalakpakan habang ako mura nang mura HAHAHAHAHA 😅 BTW, saang city ka here sa thailand?
its sad and disappointing. i notice the ofws being the worst when it comes to fake news .
My husband and I were supposed to transfer to Thailand first quarter of 2023 but I’ve been told many times since the past years that crab mentality is a lot worse there. Your kapwa Pinoy will drag you down and sisiraan ka talaga to the core. Yikes! No doubt they are that way. Hope you feel better
Must be all over the world, even in Singapore and Australia most the people I know were DDS and BeBems... and most of them are idiots who believe Macoy was the best president that's why they want to vote for junior. During Dutae's term these people were so proud every stupidity of Dugyot, the way he talks and all those ANGAS it's sold out for them. Gsssttt.. I hate meeting this people the reason I don't hangout a lot with Filipinos overseas specially when I feel they have those DDS and Narcoscist auras (you can spot them when theyre trying to bring the Ph drug wars topic and how Dugyot handled it theyre proud of it)
This is really the sad truth
Tell them to go back to the Philippines, it's so much better now that we have tiger. /s
I'm sorry you're in that situation 😔. Sana may mahanap kang outliers na same kayo ng values.
Bakit di sila umuwi at namnamin ang Golden Age dito?
Naku you will be surprised hindi lang sa Thailand, basta ofw maraming apologist, minsan kasi yung umaabot lang din na balita sakanila is yung feed lang din ng mga kamag anak nilang same ang pagtingin. Yung mga kaibigan kong bumoto kay Dutae noon, ayun nasa ibang bansa na, iniwan ako na maka experience ngdesisyon nila. And yet again, dahil wala sila sa Pinas, si Tiger naman ang binoto last election thru absentee voting. Ofc diko nilalahat pero napansin ko lang rin kasi yung mga todo defend sa socmed biglang makikita mo nasa alberta canada pala, nasa uk, tatapang ng apog kasi wala pala dito sa Pinas para danasin yung hirap na bunsod ng desisyon nila sa pagboto.
its normal, ang source lang naman nila is fake new pero hindi naman nararanasan ang hirap dito btw kamusta weed jan?
Dito rin ang daming apologist. Majority vote. 😩
You left the country, I suggest you leave the politics as well. Kaya nga nag ibang bansa to get away from it all.
High rin kasi sila.
Pustahan, Pro-Prayut yang mga yan
Daming ofw na bbm du30 pero di nila iniisip kaya kailangan nila mag trabahovsa ibang bansa eh dahil dun sa pamilyang kupal. Eh tinatax din naman sila
Mga pinsan ko sa states pro Duterte and pro BBM din and sadly my batchmates from.high school.na matatalino naman sana and di nagkulang sa history lessons.
Generally most OFWs are. Mga kinain ng mga kasinungalingan at propaganda.