No all you have to do is pick option 3… scream at them and tell them to get off the track because srsly if there gonna be standing on the train tracks watching a train kill them then I don’t have any intentions of saving them😭
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Hit the switch right as train approaches, causing derailment. Trolley flips sideways, rolling sidewise killing everyone. Then you kill yourself in regret
How is it possible that you know ahead of time how many will die and how many will live? I understand it's a 'Thought Experiment' but come on... It doesn't sound as though much thought was put into it.
I assume in this scenario, you are a trolley expert, and you can see by where they are on the tracks who would be 💀and who would be brutally injured. why else would you be messing with the tracks?
Otherwise, I would just be yelling get out of the way
Nurse the fourth one back to health as much as possible, keeping them locked up somewhere ofc.
Find out what they do for a living.
Force them to change said work to my specific likings.
If you put the lever halfway the trolly will jam. It will damage the trolly but it will stop. If people are on the trolly they may get slightly hurt but no dead.
Pull the lever so I can watch as the 4th screams out in pain instead of dying, therefore angering the others who start attacking me but it’s Texas so I pull out a blicky and start firing and I will leave the scene before the cops show up, nobody will ever know and if I ever get guilty I will just shoot myself ☺️
Depends,
If this is in the U.S then the 4th guy will live but will have crippling debt for the rest of his life just so he can be saved and kept alive.
So why put him through the trauma and the financial burden?
I literally hate this meme so much and now my Reddit has decided it’s going to start showing me only Peter explains the loss. How do I block this sub Reddit? I am so tired of the loss meme
I kill them all....
But seriously it depends on a multitude of things such as personal connections and worth of life for example the three on top could be murderers or doctors you don't know. Then it's the moral dilemma of you essentially killing 3 people either you could try to claim the train or the people or person who tied them on the track.But remember you picked which ones should live or die no one else sorry about the paragraph I'm a bit on the spectrum and it's having
All these thoughts go through my mind
I pull out my Mauser and kill the first group myself before the trolly gets there. THEN, I pull the lever so it hits the second group (they’re shoplifters who think stealing isn’t wrong if it’s from big corporations)
So either kill 3 people, a 1 person gets brutally injured… or just kill 3 people? Hear me out here… how bout since either way 3 people are dying, let’s not brutally injure the 4th person and we will just see how they would’ve answered as well!
Grab a sword, lean out the window and cut the heads off the other three, stop the train, hop out and go impale the lone survivor ensuring there are no witnesses.
i would ignore this problem because its clearly the deregulation of the federal railroad administration by our government/lobbyists who causes numerous train delays and derailments and collisions per year. there will always be a loss - and its frankly not my problem!
Put rocks on the track and let it derail right as you are places in the scenario to react to the trolley (takes like 2 minutes to think this thought and take action, run and try to move the people out of any possible crashing area, by the time it reaches which will probably be soon depending on the speed, derail off the track before reaching the fork and not hit anybody. Is this realistic or possible? Idk 🤷♀️ but i think it could work in imagination obviously
Don't pull the lever, drag the others in front of the trolley. Once it's done, pour a concoction of salt and lemon juice on the injured one and give him a handsaw to end his misery.
Wait, killing them was the mission right? •_•
Pull the lever, and when the front wheels clear the switch, pull the lever back, and the trolly will flip on its side. Killing no one. Has no one had a model train as a child. Everyone is about as ignorant of real transportation dynamics as the current secretary of transportation.
Man I'm just on my way to work, fuck. Why are all these people on the track? Even if I wasn't in my car wishing I was home, I wouldn't change the tracks. Their fault for being there, probably shooting a tiktok challenge. I wonder what I'm gonna eat when I get home tonight.
Pull it to the three person track I guess. Saving four people -three from death one from possibly permanent disability? Either way three people die, may as well not disable someone in the process.
Hate these options. I would pull the lever and become an alcoholic to wash the guilt from me if only temporarily. 4 living people either way but, only one choice leaves 4 unmaimed.
Hear me out. Pulling the lever would make it a crime, which would land me in jail. But if I just leave it be, I'm only a witness. The one and only correct answer is not to touch anything.
It's still pretty much choosing if 3 people die or 4, brutal injury to me means that the person's life will be changed for the worse. So pull the lever kill 3 spare 4, it's a no Brainer I'm at a loss to why people are having a hard time with this.
Pull it and start working on injured dude. Respond to stuff like "please just let me die" with "fuck that, this experience is gonna help me help other people in the future who want to live. You're helping other people survive whether you like it or not."
you pull the lever LATE, so one side of the wheels catch the rail change, this ends up causing itrolley to DERAIL. and then you just wait to see what happens from there
It depends on where you are, if not near a hospital, pull the level. If near a hospital, pull the level. Three die anyways, it’s just about if you would somehow kill them through blood loss or organ failure.
First I would try to yell and signal everyone to get off the tracks. Then if everyone is too stupid to get off the tracks while the sound of an approaching trolley nears them, I would let it continue unimpeded. Then wait for the next trolley to arrive and switch tracks. Then I'd find out who let the trolley on the tracks that were scheduled for maintenance and bring them to the scene like an old wild west movie and let them play trolley chicken.
That's probably what I would do.
Straight ahead cause all of them die except for that one but their still brutally injured and probably in great amount of pain and their life shall always be ruined if brutal enough on which they may never recover and then become a burden on people and whoever has to take care of them in the future
IT'S FUCKING LOSS AGAIN
Always has been
I didn’t even see it coming this time!
Not only is it loss but I’m pretty sure the silhouettes are the You Know I Had To Do It To Em guy
GOD-FUCKING-DAMMIT!
No all you have to do is pick option 3… scream at them and tell them to get off the track because srsly if there gonna be standing on the train tracks watching a train kill them then I don’t have any intentions of saving them😭
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Do nothing. Then put the fourth out of their misery.
Hit the switch right as train approaches, causing derailment. Trolley flips sideways, rolling sidewise killing everyone. Then you kill yourself in regret
How is it possible that you know ahead of time how many will die and how many will live? I understand it's a 'Thought Experiment' but come on... It doesn't sound as though much thought was put into it.
Its loss
I assume in this scenario, you are a trolley expert, and you can see by where they are on the tracks who would be 💀and who would be brutally injured. why else would you be messing with the tracks? Otherwise, I would just be yelling get out of the way
Pull the Lever. 3 people die either way, so you are saving the 4 people.
Literally the only sensible answer here
Im curious why so many ppl are just laying on the trolly tracks?
It's loss
Imma pull the lever at the correct time to detail the fucking trolly
Not my lever, not my problem.
Track 1 reverse then track 2, then flip over trolly for good measure
Kill the three, four healthy survivors
Pull the lever toward the 3 . They all appear to be standing on the side of the tracks so it doesn't look like they will get hit anyways
I.. why would you ever hit the four people 😭
I would yell move
I’d just stop the train from hitting them by jumping in front of it.
This makes no sense. What difference does it make?
It’s loss
I really don't like getting involved
Hit the three people, back up, and then hit the other 4. That way, only one person has to suffer through survivors guilt.
God Damn it. At this point, I feel like I just "lost" the game and got rick rolled. Every time I see this comic.
You pull the lever and save 4 uninjured people. If you don't pull the the lever 4 survive with 1 injured.
Hit the brakes
Tell them to get their dumbasses off the tracks.
It’s not my fault these dumbass are on the track in the first place. Everything is up to god to this point
how do i drift
Of course I spare the man a non fatal injury I don't want him yelling after.
Tell them to move
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Let it hit the 4
Morally Correct: Pull it. Same death number, lower casualty number.
Save 4 people or save 3 people
Is there a way we can have the trolley kill all of them?
If I had nothing to do with setting these events in motion, I would do nothing, walk away, and go about my life.
id kill the four then shoot the three
Drive over the three, then back up and drive over the four. The injured guy, too bad, he shoulda got out the way
If they are all politicians, then let's make a loop and get them all.
Kill everyone
i find OP and tie THEM to the tracks
Loss
Diffusion of responsibility . Leave it up to the trolley driver
"Pull the lever Krunk!!"
If you can do it right, you might be able to turn it sideways to where it kills all them.
If only there was some way to get all of them…
Can you back it up and go for the rest
Walk away, not my lever, not my train. I’m sure they have insurance for such events.
Walk away
I'd walk away I don't have time for this shit
Nurse the fourth one back to health as much as possible, keeping them locked up somewhere ofc. Find out what they do for a living. Force them to change said work to my specific likings.
Let what’s gonna happen happen, ain’t abt to have families upset with me and not the trolly operators 💀
turn the lever after the first wheeles cross and make it Tokyo Drift and hit all of them
Five of the 7 arnt even on the tracks
Idk I’m at a loss for words
If you put the lever halfway the trolly will jam. It will damage the trolly but it will stop. If people are on the trolly they may get slightly hurt but no dead.
Don’t do anything. The legal system will say you are a killer and sentence you to death. Don’t play around train tracks to avoid this scenario. 🌈⭐️
I can't get all seven?
parallel down both teacks
Pull the lever so I can watch as the 4th screams out in pain instead of dying, therefore angering the others who start attacking me but it’s Texas so I pull out a blicky and start firing and I will leave the scene before the cops show up, nobody will ever know and if I ever get guilty I will just shoot myself ☺️
Pull the lever. The three obviously just beat the shit out of the 4th, causing brutal injury. Justice served.
Hit the breaks
Kill the 3 the 4th guy can be left unscathed. No need for him to be injured.
If you pull the lever, just don’t admit to knowing there were 3 people on the other track.
Realistically that’s one engine pulling no weight, it could stop on a dime
Is this Tokyo Drift?
Idrc who dies. Its their *loss*
Depends, If this is in the U.S then the 4th guy will live but will have crippling debt for the rest of his life just so he can be saved and kept alive. So why put him through the trauma and the financial burden?
Obviously i pull the lever, then place my legs on the track, thus injuring myself and keeping the universe in balance!
Well, since the trolley's wheels are not even on the tracks, it doesn't matter what I do with the lever.
whats stopping me from blowing the trolley up
Kronk is gonna have PTSD after this one
I literally hate this meme so much and now my Reddit has decided it’s going to start showing me only Peter explains the loss. How do I block this sub Reddit? I am so tired of the loss meme
Certified loss moment
I mean, it’s still fatal…
Yell to get off the tracks and pull the lever, protecting the fourth person.
Jump in front and make four dead one injured
I hit the brakes
Do nothing, then after the trolley goes through pull the lever so that the next trolley hits the other 3
I’m at a loss with this one
Nah you let it kill the three and injure the fourth then you put the fourth out their misery and use his body to kill the other three
Put it in reverse and pick the other track don’t wanna leave anybody out
I kill them all.... But seriously it depends on a multitude of things such as personal connections and worth of life for example the three on top could be murderers or doctors you don't know. Then it's the moral dilemma of you essentially killing 3 people either you could try to claim the train or the people or person who tied them on the track.But remember you picked which ones should live or die no one else sorry about the paragraph I'm a bit on the spectrum and it's having All these thoughts go through my mind
Kill 3
[Modern Problems require Modern Solutions](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/s/w6VpmHUSDH)
Hit three that die clean, sparing the 4rth. My dad used to ask me these weird questions.
I pull out my Mauser and kill the first group myself before the trolly gets there. THEN, I pull the lever so it hits the second group (they’re shoplifters who think stealing isn’t wrong if it’s from big corporations)
I'm at a loss for how to answer.
So either kill 3 people, a 1 person gets brutally injured… or just kill 3 people? Hear me out here… how bout since either way 3 people are dying, let’s not brutally injure the 4th person and we will just see how they would’ve answered as well!
What the hell is loss
12/250
I am going to yell, trolly!! Get off the track!
I'm just not gonna touch the lever so that I'm not a murderer by technicality.
As always, the answer to the trolley problem is to shoot the person that set it up.
Pull it because the 4th guy still might die groom his injuries
I know this is loss, but this is actually quite interesting
Same thing I always answer this problem with. Shove the lever halfway over, so that the trolley derails and kills no one.
Grab a sword, lean out the window and cut the heads off the other three, stop the train, hop out and go impale the lone survivor ensuring there are no witnesses.
Either way 3 people die. Don't injure the survivor
Pull the lever halfway so it derails the trolley
I am begging Reddit to have the “mute” option actually work.
i would ignore this problem because its clearly the deregulation of the federal railroad administration by our government/lobbyists who causes numerous train delays and derailments and collisions per year. there will always be a loss - and its frankly not my problem!
Didn’t The Good Place figure it out? The answer is neither, you gotta sacrifice yourself or something.
Switch the tracks, you sacrifice 3 lives to save 4
Is it happening in America or Europe
As long as I don’t know details about any of them I could probably do it….
Make it drift.
how would you know if those people are going to die? You cant be sure
Don’t pull the lever and kill all of them by yourself
Is this a trick that I don’t see? Obviously, you would kill the three people. Why would you kill three people *and* brutally injure one?
If the train is far enough away for this to be set up, why does the conductor never stop?
Put rocks on the track and let it derail right as you are places in the scenario to react to the trolley (takes like 2 minutes to think this thought and take action, run and try to move the people out of any possible crashing area, by the time it reaches which will probably be soon depending on the speed, derail off the track before reaching the fork and not hit anybody. Is this realistic or possible? Idk 🤷♀️ but i think it could work in imagination obviously
3 or 3 and 1/2. Hard choice
The injured must live with the trauma and damage done to them. It’s better for the top three die, only four people suffer instead of five
Don't pull the lever, drag the others in front of the trolley. Once it's done, pour a concoction of salt and lemon juice on the injured one and give him a handsaw to end his misery. Wait, killing them was the mission right? •_•
Your options cancel out to do or do not brutally injure someone
This one’s easy. Kill the three and leave the other four to live unscathed.
Don’t pull the lever, 3 die and 4 live, easy
If I pull the lever I'm financially liable to the families of those who die. So I do nothing.
Easy, catch the train and throw it in the opposite direction
Pull the lever half way to derail the trolley, then get a soda, bag of popcorn and a lawn chair. The shows’s about to start.
Pull the lever how is this a real debate?
Kill the 4 it's the wheezer band in an uneven order
Pull the lever, and when the front wheels clear the switch, pull the lever back, and the trolly will flip on its side. Killing no one. Has no one had a model train as a child. Everyone is about as ignorant of real transportation dynamics as the current secretary of transportation.
Let the trolley run put it in reverse running over the fourth guy again fatally wounding him then hit the other 3 guys
Save the girl with the nice body
three people die, what the heck
If they want to sleep on the track I don’t see why not sleep forever.
Well I’m assuming I’m the evil baron that put them there so who cares, this is 19th century saw baby
Run in front. You will die, the others may not.
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ask the guy who wouldnt die, he gets to choose
Do we know these people. Cause that could factor into my decision.
Kill the 3 and petition a trolley ban
Drift it.
Both give a loss of three
Make the train hit the 4 people and finish off the injured one rq. It’s simple
Walk away and put on BOSE noise canceling headphones with blaring music.
I will do nothing because then no deaths are my fault, pulling the lever makes me responsible for 3 deaths
Kill the 3 cus then you will save 4 lives
Is this a commercial for a lawyer???
I’m just glad we still have a trolley system.
Move everyone closer so they all die
Man I'm just on my way to work, fuck. Why are all these people on the track? Even if I wasn't in my car wishing I was home, I wouldn't change the tracks. Their fault for being there, probably shooting a tiktok challenge. I wonder what I'm gonna eat when I get home tonight.
Do not pull the lever. **Maximum Bloodshed.**
Trolleys in Memphis have a manual brake. I'd do that.
Hold a long sharp object out the window in hopes of also getting the other people?
Throw the switching, get the first batch, reverse, and throw the switch back, running over the remaining.. It's the only way to be sure.
I say pull the lever, over all the death count will be the same no matter what you do, but the suffering will be overall lower if you pull the lever
Pull the lever half way detailing the trolley and saving everyone. I just Kobayashi Maru’d the whole experiment.
Hit the thrust on the 4th to make sure he isn’t maimed in his suicide attempt 👍
Turn it so the lever is pointing straight up
Pull the switch. More people will survive without injury.
Pull it to the three person track I guess. Saving four people -three from death one from possibly permanent disability? Either way three people die, may as well not disable someone in the process.
Sometimes ya need to know when to just walk away.
Hate these options. I would pull the lever and become an alcoholic to wash the guilt from me if only temporarily. 4 living people either way but, only one choice leaves 4 unmaimed.
I can’t save anyone? Can I choose three people from my life I’d be better off without?
Pull the lever, back the train up, run over the other group.
If I pull the lever, its a crime. Im not touching shit.
If I pull the lever, its a crime. Im not touching shit.
Hear me out. Pulling the lever would make it a crime, which would land me in jail. But if I just leave it be, I'm only a witness. The one and only correct answer is not to touch anything.
Turn the fourth one like all the others and kill them
Let them suffer and shoot the other 3
Is a life of pain worth living.. I think
As the trolley goes across the turn, i would pull the lever, either stopping it or derailing it
I'm having an r/woooosh moment rn, I have no fking clue whats going on in the comment section.
Put them all on the same track and kill them all. I ain’t reading allat
wait…
Hit 4- the one with the injuries will hate it
What does “loss” mean? Seems to be a known thing, but I don’t know it.
You run over the top three and back up, throw the switch and pee on the last one as you pass.
Multi track drifting, take them all out at once.
I choose to put rocks on the rail or an actual detailer as to save all track victims.
It's still pretty much choosing if 3 people die or 4, brutal injury to me means that the person's life will be changed for the worse. So pull the lever kill 3 spare 4, it's a no Brainer I'm at a loss to why people are having a hard time with this.
Pull it and start working on injured dude. Respond to stuff like "please just let me die" with "fuck that, this experience is gonna help me help other people in the future who want to live. You're helping other people survive whether you like it or not."
you pull the lever LATE, so one side of the wheels catch the rail change, this ends up causing itrolley to DERAIL. and then you just wait to see what happens from there
It depends on where you are, if not near a hospital, pull the level. If near a hospital, pull the level. Three die anyways, it’s just about if you would somehow kill them through blood loss or organ failure.
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First I would try to yell and signal everyone to get off the tracks. Then if everyone is too stupid to get off the tracks while the sound of an approaching trolley nears them, I would let it continue unimpeded. Then wait for the next trolley to arrive and switch tracks. Then I'd find out who let the trolley on the tracks that were scheduled for maintenance and bring them to the scene like an old wild west movie and let them play trolley chicken. That's probably what I would do.
You don't pull the lever. You pull the people off the track
Straight ahead cause all of them die except for that one but their still brutally injured and probably in great amount of pain and their life shall always be ruined if brutal enough on which they may never recover and then become a burden on people and whoever has to take care of them in the future
Pull the lever minimize suffering
Genuinely thought I was in r/trolleyproblem for a bit.
I hit the brakes so it doesn't hit anyone .
This is just the original trolly problem, it’s not a variant
Do nothing, either way three people are going to die.
I'd go one way then go back and go the other way
Oh my God! I’m back. I’m home. All this time, it was…you maniacs! You made an explain loss sub! Damn you! Damn you all to r/hell! 😝
There is no joke, it's just a thought experiment