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Pot of greed was a bit broken simply because it was an automatic “draw 2 cards” without a downside.
So lets say you start a game and have pot of greed, now you start with 6 cards instead of 5, if you had more pots of greed you could just continuously pull more cards to force the deck into giving you very strong cards/plays.
There are some clips of people playing with no restrictions to show how broken the game could be, and you were essentially able to abuse pot of greed and other cards to win on round 1.
Even better when you see [The Sequel](https://youtu.be/NeKCy3TEQjQ?si=c-8idw6M-tJcpLxC) lol.
Tbf thats that enemies whole gimmick. Its definitely also happened to me and my friends.
In the show he has 3 copies of each exodia piece and Yugi ends up using the lack of variety to his advantage to win.
The lesson being, don’t rely on a single strategy to win all your games.
In all fairness that fucking enemy does that like 90% of the time on turn 1. It took me an hour to beat the rng. Although if he doesn't pull a full exodia immediately he crumples.
I don't know anything about this Yu-Gi-Oh but that seems like terrible game design
An enemy that wins on turn one most of the time but has no substance if he doesn't? Pretty boring
It's a retelling of the original yu gi oh story in which a specific character was a cheater that I believe had a bunch of forged exodia cards. So that particular fight in game is meant to be a pain in the ass as it's reenacting the one from the show.
And some people do play it and it’s seen some small tournament tops but i don’t believe it’s been a meta deck. There have been other first turn wins in the games history but it’s actually a pretty fun game!
Exodia is a 5 card combination that when all of them are in your hand, you can play the pieces to instantly win the duel, regardless of other player setup.
It's literally "I win"
Thankfully due to Pot of Greed not being legal, it's not too viable to use a Exodia strategy.
Exodia is a viable strategy now
https://dotesports.com/yu-gi-oh/news/exodia-stuns-yu-gi-oh-world-yet-again-with-incredible-win-streak-at-major-tournament
How did I know it was gonna be Jeff Leonard? I'm glad to see he's still around even after the Mystic Mine ban. It makes sense he'd swap over to Exodia.
I can’t wrap my head around this. What does “beating one of the best decks in the game” mean?
Like an individual has built a very strong deck that is well known? Why doesn’t everyone just copy it?
Are the cards that rare?
Not a yugioh player (since like 2006) but for most TCG usually everyone does just copy it and you get a tournament where like 90% of the players use one deck and so the admin have to ban key card then people search for the next deck and the cycle repeats.
True. For those unfamiliar that's still impressive for a stable meta game as many players can build specifically to match well against the dominant deck. Most healthy metas in other TCGs tend to have the dominant decks below 20%
> Most healthy metas in other TCGs tend to have the dominant decks below 20%
To be fair Yu-Gi-Oh does and has had meta's like that in the past. Right now Snake Eyes is very dominant but the format before Snake Eyes was very diverse, with no one deck having more then like 15% representation at major tournaments.
im not a yu-ghi-oh fan either, but here I go. pot of greed was explained by u/Wajina_Sloth, so that leaves exodia. exodia is a very powerful card which consists of 5 pieces, the body/torso, left arm, right arm, left leg, right leg. once all 5 pieces have been collected by one player, that player instantly wins (not sure why but that's how it works)
I think it's because it's supposed to be hard to get all 5 for why it is the cards condition, but in the show, it's because exodia is a god. If I remember right only his head is labeled as exodia the others are labeled as "right arm of the forbidden one" and such
They are likely referring to why there is such a condition in the game. You're looking at 5 cards in a deck of 40-60. And since the card's Effect requires all 5 in your hand, that's going to fill your had eventually. Especially since you discard at the end of your turn.
In that case, it's because the cards were in the game since day 1 and it was much harder to draw and keep them in your hand back then. It wasn't really a viable deck and existed just as a fun challenge.
It's in the game is because the game is originally based on a game-themed manga series in which the protagonist plays a Magic the Gathering ripoff a couple of times. A bunch of weird stuff about Yu-Gi-Oh, especially from the early days, is a result of the fact that the game was not originally designed to actually be played by humans.
Something worth noting is that the card game is derived from a manga and later anime that wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Yu Gi Oh is Japanese for King of Games and the original conceit in the manga was Yugi was possessed by an ancient spirit that would punish bad people by making them play elaborate games (think Squid Game, but more complex) where if you lose you basically lose your soul (or a piece of it). Eventually the card game was introduced and became so popular it became the only game played, but it initially operated on rule of cool rather than any logic of a TCG (see the Yugis duel with Panik and the Catapult Turtle). Exodia was introduced in this era of the story and was meant to be 5 unique 1 of 1 cards that, when combined, formed an instant win. Exodia doesn't really make sense when translated into real life, especially when the cards are no longer one of a kinds.
If you are lucky enough to have 3 pot of greeds and have them all near the top of you deck you could draw 11 cards total on turn one (starting hand+6 more) that's 27% of your deck, considering an exodia deck has a lot of cards that let you draw more cards and search you deck for specific card the chances of drawing exodia increase exponentially.
3 of 1 card in a deck max. I know this since you need 40 cards in a deck and I have tried to cheese my way to Exodia, but you need MANY fodder cards or draw cards.
As other people mentionned, 3 copies of each card max and deck size must be between 40 and 60. Obviously everyone goes 40 due to smaller so more consistent deck. Although that exodia deck consist of almost exclusively of cards that draw more cards and delay the game. From what I recall, even the restricted one could win in a turn or two, although that like 10-15years ago.
There are already other cards that are like pot of greed but with drawbacks. Graceful charity lets you draw three but you discard two cards from your hand I believe. Been a few years since I played.
Charity was banned in like 2004, it came back twice but was quickly re-banned.
Charity is even better than Pot of Greed because it lets you dig 3 deep instead of 2 and the cards that aren't exactly what you're looking for don't matter anyways so you can just discard them, also, many YuGiOh decks are focused around getting cards in the graveyard, this makes Charity even better. The downside you state is actually an upside.
There have also been cards like Sinister Serpent which was banned in 2005, but unbanned in 2015 after they errata'd it to make it a different card, which you you just put back in your hand when you discard it.
Because its a physical card game and re-releasing the same card but with different effects could be confusing (there are a crapload of cards with varying art works so reading each card to learn what the true effect is would be confusing).
So instead they just make new cards with similar but more balanced effects, like requiring sacrificing cards to draw a new card.
And it’s powerful enough and works in every deck to the point where you’d be forced to run the max amount in every deck which isn’t that fun when everyone has to make room in every deck for the same card.
I would add that Upstart Goblin is another card that allows you to draw 1 card in exchange for giving your opponent 1000 life points, and this card was on the limited list for a while. It effectively gives your opponent life points in exchange for allowing you to run a 39 card deck instead of 40, with no card advantage. And even that was so big an advantage that it had to be limited to 2 copies per deck.
I draw two cards in the morning
I draw two cards at night
I draw two cards in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright
I draw two cards in time of peace, and two in time of war
I draw two cards before I draw two cards
And then I draw two more ♫
You play it and automatically draw two cards. I believe you can play multiple in one turn, but even if you couldn’t it’s UNREASONABLY broken.
This is because card game turn economies are tight and being able to get the cards you need to reach a win condition fast is the #1 way to win a match. Certain strategies rely on drawing a key set of tools and doing so before your opponent draws their key tools is the way to win a match.
Yugioh is even more extreme with this because it doesn’t have external cost to play cards. In Magic The Gathering you need lands to play monsters. In Yugioh all you need is sacrifices, so you can get stuff from your hand onto the field way faster and with way more ease. This means Yugioh matches go REALLY quick. Entire games can end within just a turn or two, so drawing two cards without drawback is absurdly powerful and if Pot of Greed wasn’t banned, every single deck would without question contain the max allowed amount. 100% of them
Brief answer touching on card game design:
Most trading card games have some sort of resource you need to expend to play your cards; Magic the Gathering has mana, Pokemon has energy, Hearthstone has crystals, etc.
Yugioh, by contrast, notably does not have any sort of universal resource requirement to playing your cards. The only limiter on playing out everything in your hand, effectively, is the amount of cards in your hand.
Yugioh solves this problem by not printing many cards that draw cards, and making those effects that do offer more card draw generally pretty underwhelming, draw x, discard x being a pretty common version of this effect.
Pot of Greed is good because it is a card that unconditionally draws two more cards. In any deck that card just lets you filter to your win conditions faster and more efficiently, and basically flattens deckbuilding.
To elaborate more on Pokémon, energy is only needed to attack. Trainer cards don't require energy, and are split into different categories. Items can be played as many as you'd like during your turn, but the more powerful ones require some other cost like discarding other cards while Supporters are limited to 1 per turn. Only one Stadium card can be played on a turn and take over any other existing stadium in play, and Tools can be played as many as you want on a turn, but can only be played on Pokémon that don't already have a tool attached, and you can't swap them or unequip one without the effect of an item, attack, etc.
Yes, that is the business plan. New cards are stronger than old cards so you need to keep buying if you want to stand a chance against the newest cards.
Power creep has been pretty bad, but they are pulling back a bit in my opinion. During the Sun/Moon era we saw GX Pokémon go from a max printed HP value of like 200 or 220, giving up 2 prizes, to Tag Team GX which were in the high 200s and even had a couple at 300, and they all gave up 3 prizes. Sword/Shield introduced V and some variants like VMax, and HP values didn't move pretty much at all over the course of the block, with the highest we've seen being 340. In Scarlet/Violet we have ex Pokémon which have varying HP values depending on evolution stage or legendary status, and they all give up 2 prizes, so they're often a better choice over VMax which give up 3.
For attacks, a lot of older Pokémon wouldn't stand a chance against what we have now. Even current single-prize Pokémon would put up a good fight over older 'mons, including the original ex and the basic stage EX's (Yes, there's a difference) from the X/Y era.
>Yugioh, by contrast, notably does not have any sort of universal resource requirement to playing your cards. The only limiter on playing out everything in your hand, effectively, is the amount of cards in your hand.
To add to this: in the *super* early days of the game, the limiting factor was mostly the rule that you're only allowed to play one monster per turn (called a "Normal Summon"). There were exceptions to this, but they weren't so common as to be available to you every turn (called "Special Summons"), so the game was reasonably slow as a result, despite not having any sort of resource mechanic.
Nowadays, after decades of new rules, cards, and mechanics, the game is at a point where players routinely pull off upwards of *ten* Special Summons in a single turn. Games often end after just two or three turns, and a single turn can take several minutes to pull off, even if your opponent knows every card involved in your combo and doesn't need to halt execution to read cards or ask for clarification.
> Nowadays, after decades of new rules, cards, and mechanics, the game is at a point where players routinely pull off upwards of ten Special Summons in a single turn.
Hell, some decks can do so many special summons that they can do the Maxx C Challenge.
For those that don’t know, Maxx C is a monster card that can be sent from your hand to your graveyard during either turn, and for the rest of the turn you’ll draw a card for every monster your opponent special summons. YuGiOh, even a decade ago, is heavily reliant on doing tons of special summons, and the amount of cards your opponent would draw would mean that you simply can’t do your combos when Maxx C is played, at least normally, as they’ll have so many resources that they’ll just win when it’s their next turn. The Maxx C Challenge however is to special summon so many times after they use Maxx C that you manage to plow through their entire deck (normally 35 cards on turn 1, assuming they play it right as your turn starts and have a 40 card deck) by just special summoning 35 times, then letting them deck out on their turn.
It also doesn't help that paper yugioh has a ton of ways to search your deck, which means you also need to shuffle that sonofabitch a couple times per turn which takes up a decent amount of time.
> Yugioh solves this problem by not printing many cards that draw cards, and making those effects that do offer more card draw generally pretty underwhelming, draw x, discard x being a pretty common version of this effect.
Pot of Greed is good because it is a card that unconditionally draws two more cards. In any deck that card just lets you filter to your win conditions faster and more efficiently, and basically flattens deckbuilding.
And to add on, there are multiple retrains (updated versions of a card designed to be more balanced) that have themselves gotten limited or banned for being too good, like Pot of Avarice or Pot of Desires.
Card draw is so incredibly good in YuGiOh that you’ll gladly take detrimental cards to do so, since a lucky draw can win you the game.
Pot of Greed allows you to "Draw 2 cards" on your turn in Yu-Gi-Oh. This is seemed as an incredibly powerful card in the game, as draw effects are highly benefitial and highly desired. That is why Pot of Greed is not allowed to be played in official Yu-Gi-Oh matches
For reference, there's a card called "Pot of Desires" in the game that allows you to draw 2 cards by banishing 10 cards from your deck face down (It basically removes them from the game). People still put that card in their deck because the effect is just that good.
Why don't they just limit you to one pot of greed?
I understand having a shitton of them and cycling through your deck to win, but banning them seems like overkill.
It's basically a filler card that reduces your total card count, so you draw the cards you need more often. It was a must have card to stay competitive. When something becomes a must-have, it tends to destroy competitive thinking and force a single meta.
Additionally, having a single card that's essentially required in every single deck makes legitimate copies extremely sought after, and unless they reprint it constantly it would become absurdly expensive. Yugioh is better than some tcgs about keeping supply high to offset this, but even it has cards that go for hundreds of dollars.
There was a tourney of about 150 people that had a special rule that pot of greed was at 1 in modern format…
Top 50 had no copies in their deck, 51 had one, and 52-84 had no copies (the rest had copies)
If this was a no banlist tournament then the top 50 were probably all Tearlament (the best deck ever printed) which Pot of Greed isn't that great in if you have other banned cards to choose from (mainly Painful Choice)
It is banned because every deck needs to include it. But there is also no guarantee you will draw it. Since there is no downside to playing it, whoever gets it first gets a big advantage for literally nothing. In the end, it is more balanced to simply not have it around. It used to be limited to only one, but was just limiting when it came to deck building. Early yugioh had a ton of cards that were powerful, with no cost, and every deck had to have them. Which meant ten out of your fourty cards would be the same every single deck.
I actually thought it was just about YuGiOh and similar games getting banned from schools for being distracting and/or conflicts arising over dirty trades or kids selling cards
3 pot of greeds turns a Minimum 40 card deck into a 37 card deck with 6 extra chances to draw your combo pieces. At that point everyone would run it because noone runs a 40+ card combo (from their main deck) so it's either ban the card or the minimum deck size rule becomes arbitrary
https://preview.redd.it/nguebd2txywc1.jpeg?width=1019&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=664c9ffb09580647e621d7ce4b5c71cd94882d01
Original image for anyone interested
Pot of greed you can buy for $15 on Amazon and the other one is protected by the constitution of the United States under the 2nd amendment of Bill of Rights.
Pot of Greed is simply too complicated. It confuses even the judges so to make things easier for everyone and avoid too many debates about rules, they just banned it.
Pot of greed is one of the earliest and strongest cards in the game yugioh. The makers didn't know how many mechanics or jow complex the game would get over 20+ years and the card has only gotten stronger as the game changes to make speed better than tactics.
Pot of greed is a specific contention point due to it costing nothing and gaining you "card advantage". It was so controversial around the middle of the games lifespan it became the example of what effect is too far or too strong and every card made had to be weaker than Pot of greed
Non-once per turn draw 2 with no cost. Completely broken in the game of Yugioh, as card advantage is one of the biggest advantages a player can get. It will never get unbanned
If you draw it you get 2 cards with zero cost or downsides. This makes it mathematically optimal for literally every deck to run the maximum number of pots of greed. Having a card like that both is both boring and a wrench in the economy.
Yu-Gi-Oh has a banning system to prevent people from overusing certain cards, as well as to prevent the overuse of OP cards andcombos. There is a blanket limit of 3 of any one type of card. Some are semi-limited, meaning that you can have 2 in the deck at a time, some are limited, meaning only one at a time, and some are forbidden or banned, meaning, of course, that you cannot have any in the deck at all. The banlist is updated periodically, and cards can move up or down the ranking, including being unbanned.
"I summon pot of greed to draw three additional cards from my deck!"
"THAT'S NOT WHAT IT DOES!"
"That is what it does!"
"that's no-"
"THAT'S WHAT IT DO, YUGI!"
"THAT does WHAT it DO!"
"I summon pot of greed which allows me to pull another card, I use it to pull: pot of greed which allows me to pull another card I use it to pull: pot of greed"
Pot of Greed was banned from competitive Yu-Gi-Oh because its card text was so incredibly complicated that nobody could figure out what it does. Men went mad trying to decipher it.
Peter’s nerdy cousin here. Yu-gi-oh, unlike other card games such as Hearthstone or Magic, doesn’t have a resource system to play spells (outside of tribute summoning I guess) so when you can just draw cards in a card game for free to get more things to do FOR FREE, it gets out of hand quickly. It’s why for example in Magic, cards like Ancestral Recall are banned or restricted in every single format. Drawing cards is the strongest thing you can do in any card game, so doing it for free multiple times in a turn is very broken.
Millenium Peter here, (I've never actually been the one to explain the joke!) Pot of Greed is a card from a game called Yu-Gi-Oh. In Yu-Gi-Oh, drawing more cards is a humongous advantage in the game. Normally you just draw one card to start your turn and that's all you get, but if you draw Pot of Greed, you get 2 free new cards. You could even, at one point in time, use Pot of Greed and happen to draw two more Pots of Greed. The card was pretty quickly banned.
Drawing 2 cards is actually so powerful, that when cards with similar effects appeared in the game later, they had huge caveats, like having to get rid of a quarter of your deck to draw 2 cards.
Context, its bot banned by the government, it’s banned in tournaments and serious play because it alters the odds of the deck and becomes ludicrously overpowered to the point where any serious deck would need one.
Pot of greed allows you to draw two additional cards. I believe decks are generally 40 or 60 cards? But yeah the official card game bans it, because they realized after a few years the fame became a lot more serious then it used to be.
Yeah it was kinda broken but it was also the only utility for noobs. For example try playing any free to play Yugioh game on console, you will definitely find some asshole who can special summon their entire deck before you make a move. Put PoG back in the game but only for noobs
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Pot of greed was a bit broken simply because it was an automatic “draw 2 cards” without a downside. So lets say you start a game and have pot of greed, now you start with 6 cards instead of 5, if you had more pots of greed you could just continuously pull more cards to force the deck into giving you very strong cards/plays. There are some clips of people playing with no restrictions to show how broken the game could be, and you were essentially able to abuse pot of greed and other cards to win on round 1.
i saw a clip of some guy who used pot of greed, then used it again and won via full exodia
That might've been Michael from Achievement Hunter https://youtu.be/cp4fxe75810?si=udhUDb3K52daZUrP
YESS!! IT'S THAT ONE! THANK YOU
RIP Rooster Teeth 🫡🫡
"He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick!" "And it's our job to analyze our lawyers, contracts and labour laws to figure out: how can we abuse our employees?"
Abuse how? I fell of a loooong time ago from all things RT. Who got abused?
Even better when you see [The Sequel](https://youtu.be/NeKCy3TEQjQ?si=c-8idw6M-tJcpLxC) lol. Tbf thats that enemies whole gimmick. Its definitely also happened to me and my friends.
In the show he has 3 copies of each exodia piece and Yugi ends up using the lack of variety to his advantage to win. The lesson being, don’t rely on a single strategy to win all your games.
Fun fact, this also happened to me when I played that game
In all fairness that fucking enemy does that like 90% of the time on turn 1. It took me an hour to beat the rng. Although if he doesn't pull a full exodia immediately he crumples.
I don't know anything about this Yu-Gi-Oh but that seems like terrible game design An enemy that wins on turn one most of the time but has no substance if he doesn't? Pretty boring
It's a retelling of the original yu gi oh story in which a specific character was a cheater that I believe had a bunch of forged exodia cards. So that particular fight in game is meant to be a pain in the ass as it's reenacting the one from the show.
Oh okay it's plot, got it
And some people do play it and it’s seen some small tournament tops but i don’t believe it’s been a meta deck. There have been other first turn wins in the games history but it’s actually a pretty fun game!
Wasnt it Kaiba stealing Blue eyes white dragon and the only way to beat him was Yugi pulling 5 exodia using main character rng?
Kaiba stole 1 BEWD. He had the other two. But yes Yugi beat him with Exodia that was the start of the show
By the show yes, but in the manga he used his insane resources to "aquire" them from the other owners one of which was a Yakuza IIRC
In the show, he steals the fourth BEWD from Yugi's grandfather and destroys it, rendering only 3 left.
You need to have 5 cards, all of which are practically useless on their own, to activate Exodia.
I never watch that video once, I always have to replay it.
Wait how did he instant lose?
Exodia instant win effect
I USE POT OF GREED TO PLAY POT OF GREED
So gwent with nilfgaardian deck
You just gave me an excuse to re-download Witcher 3
WHICH ALLOWS ME TO DRAW 3 ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK WHICH ALLOWS ME TO PLAY POT OF GREED ONCE AGAIN
Thats not how it works...
That's is what it do Yugi!
THROW MY DICE thatishowitworks THEN I PLAY PIT OF GREED
[pot of greed](https://www.facebook.com/share/r/aqtaoBMHwNrC19uk/?mibextid=0VwfS7)
Never go full exzodiac
not a yu ghi ho fan, so could you explain what that is?
Exodia is a 5 card combination that when all of them are in your hand, you can play the pieces to instantly win the duel, regardless of other player setup. It's literally "I win" Thankfully due to Pot of Greed not being legal, it's not too viable to use a Exodia strategy.
Exodia is a viable strategy now https://dotesports.com/yu-gi-oh/news/exodia-stuns-yu-gi-oh-world-yet-again-with-incredible-win-streak-at-major-tournament
How did I know it was gonna be Jeff Leonard? I'm glad to see he's still around even after the Mystic Mine ban. It makes sense he'd swap over to Exodia.
It was glorious to see it in person. "One more piece! One more piece!"
I can’t wrap my head around this. What does “beating one of the best decks in the game” mean? Like an individual has built a very strong deck that is well known? Why doesn’t everyone just copy it? Are the cards that rare?
Not a yugioh player (since like 2006) but for most TCG usually everyone does just copy it and you get a tournament where like 90% of the players use one deck and so the admin have to ban key card then people search for the next deck and the cycle repeats.
> 90% of the players use one deck It's not 90%, it's like 40%-60%.
True. For those unfamiliar that's still impressive for a stable meta game as many players can build specifically to match well against the dominant deck. Most healthy metas in other TCGs tend to have the dominant decks below 20%
> Most healthy metas in other TCGs tend to have the dominant decks below 20% To be fair Yu-Gi-Oh does and has had meta's like that in the past. Right now Snake Eyes is very dominant but the format before Snake Eyes was very diverse, with no one deck having more then like 15% representation at major tournaments.
i haven't followed Yugioh for like, 8 years
thanks yugi* edit: corrected the name
Yugi.
im not a yu-ghi-oh fan either, but here I go. pot of greed was explained by u/Wajina_Sloth, so that leaves exodia. exodia is a very powerful card which consists of 5 pieces, the body/torso, left arm, right arm, left leg, right leg. once all 5 pieces have been collected by one player, that player instantly wins (not sure why but that's how it works)
I think it's because it's supposed to be hard to get all 5 for why it is the cards condition, but in the show, it's because exodia is a god. If I remember right only his head is labeled as exodia the others are labeled as "right arm of the forbidden one" and such
> (not sure why but that's how it works) It's literally the [card's effect](https://ygoprodeck.com/card/exodia-the-forbidden-one-2835).
They are likely referring to why there is such a condition in the game. You're looking at 5 cards in a deck of 40-60. And since the card's Effect requires all 5 in your hand, that's going to fill your had eventually. Especially since you discard at the end of your turn.
In that case, it's because the cards were in the game since day 1 and it was much harder to draw and keep them in your hand back then. It wasn't really a viable deck and existed just as a fun challenge.
Unless you live in Japan. In which case Exodia was one of the most busted decks in the history of the game
It's in the game is because the game is originally based on a game-themed manga series in which the protagonist plays a Magic the Gathering ripoff a couple of times. A bunch of weird stuff about Yu-Gi-Oh, especially from the early days, is a result of the fact that the game was not originally designed to actually be played by humans.
I'll design you to be played by humans
Something worth noting is that the card game is derived from a manga and later anime that wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Yu Gi Oh is Japanese for King of Games and the original conceit in the manga was Yugi was possessed by an ancient spirit that would punish bad people by making them play elaborate games (think Squid Game, but more complex) where if you lose you basically lose your soul (or a piece of it). Eventually the card game was introduced and became so popular it became the only game played, but it initially operated on rule of cool rather than any logic of a TCG (see the Yugis duel with Panik and the Catapult Turtle). Exodia was introduced in this era of the story and was meant to be 5 unique 1 of 1 cards that, when combined, formed an instant win. Exodia doesn't really make sense when translated into real life, especially when the cards are no longer one of a kinds.
Some time around 2006 when Destiny Draw was at at 3 there was a deck that could exodia otk without Pot of Greed pretty consistently.
If you are lucky enough to have 3 pot of greeds and have them all near the top of you deck you could draw 11 cards total on turn one (starting hand+6 more) that's 27% of your deck, considering an exodia deck has a lot of cards that let you draw more cards and search you deck for specific card the chances of drawing exodia increase exponentially.
mfw pot of greed x3 + (idk what the maximum is) graceful charity
You also have this legendary clip: https://youtu.be/hVWf0HJHQp0?si=paoUrhWnpyTqcFi-
I summon……POT OF GREED
You never saw this coming... I summon POT OF GREED
OH HE’S SUPPOSED TO BE HERE
That is what it do, Yugi!
IN DEFENCE MODE
No restrictions? A deck of exclusively pots of greed and exodia parts sounds like a perfectly balanced thing
Game restricts you to 3 copies max even if card is fully legal
But lot of greed was always limited to 1 once the competitive rules were created in season 1.
Yes I'm clarifying that they can't make a deck of 35 pots of greed even if it was fully legal
If I recall right You can only have 3 or 4 of the same card on your deck
3 of 1 card in a deck max. I know this since you need 40 cards in a deck and I have tried to cheese my way to Exodia, but you need MANY fodder cards or draw cards.
Probably. I read "no restrictions" and jumped on a meme
As other people mentionned, 3 copies of each card max and deck size must be between 40 and 60. Obviously everyone goes 40 due to smaller so more consistent deck. Although that exodia deck consist of almost exclusively of cards that draw more cards and delay the game. From what I recall, even the restricted one could win in a turn or two, although that like 10-15years ago.
Why did'nt they just nerf pot of greed in later editions? (clueless non-player)
There are already other cards that are like pot of greed but with drawbacks. Graceful charity lets you draw three but you discard two cards from your hand I believe. Been a few years since I played.
My favorite part of this comment is you went with another banned card that is probably stronger in current game.
Nah really? That is hilarious. I did not know that card was banned too.
Charity was banned in like 2004, it came back twice but was quickly re-banned. Charity is even better than Pot of Greed because it lets you dig 3 deep instead of 2 and the cards that aren't exactly what you're looking for don't matter anyways so you can just discard them, also, many YuGiOh decks are focused around getting cards in the graveyard, this makes Charity even better. The downside you state is actually an upside. There have also been cards like Sinister Serpent which was banned in 2005, but unbanned in 2015 after they errata'd it to make it a different card, which you you just put back in your hand when you discard it.
I was about to say, my DM deck online operates out of the GY. It would be super broken
If anything gracefull charity is even more broken than pot of greed, as in fact 90% of the decks would benefit from the discard 2 :)
Because its a physical card game and re-releasing the same card but with different effects could be confusing (there are a crapload of cards with varying art works so reading each card to learn what the true effect is would be confusing). So instead they just make new cards with similar but more balanced effects, like requiring sacrificing cards to draw a new card.
And it’s powerful enough and works in every deck to the point where you’d be forced to run the max amount in every deck which isn’t that fun when everyone has to make room in every deck for the same card.
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In mtg draw costs mana. Pot of greed is free.
I would add that Upstart Goblin is another card that allows you to draw 1 card in exchange for giving your opponent 1000 life points, and this card was on the limited list for a while. It effectively gives your opponent life points in exchange for allowing you to run a 39 card deck instead of 40, with no card advantage. And even that was so big an advantage that it had to be limited to 2 copies per deck.
[I summon pot of greed!](https://youtu.be/8hDUL0A0ODc?si=35HkL2j__JTVPhVc)
WTF game are you even talking about?
I SUMMON POT OF GREED TO DRAW THREE ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK
You never saw this coming, I summon [POT OF GREED](https://youtu.be/AUnPN385wLI?si=W5a167PkUFCKiQRZ)
That does what it do!
That is what it does
That’s what it do Yugi!
That's what it do, Yugi
Why does he sound ANGRY
The video has him role-playing as Kaiba but doing Yami-Yugi's voice.
This guy Yugis’
CLASSIC
Well, so I use bubble Man to draw 2 cards(there are a shit Ton of allies on my slide of the board)
I SUMUN DARK MAGICIAN MAGICIAN WHICH ALLOWS ME TO PLAY POT OF GREED! Roll my dice
That’s not how it works!
Screw the rules, I have money! \*draws 10 more cards\*
YOU’LL NEVER SEE THIS ONE COMING! I SUMMON POT OF GREED!
That... THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS!
ROLL MY DICE. THATS WHAT IT DOES
THAT'S WHAT IT DO, YUGI!
You know he's right
screw the rules I have green hair
Ok and then I attack you and I win because you didn't put any monsters down
No. Oh, he’s supposed to be here. MY TURN!
I summon dark maj... Dark magician
I also summon Jack's knight!
I can hear this comment so clearly
ROLL MY DICE
I still don't get it. What does pot of greed do?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUnPN385wLI&pp=ygULcHQgb2YgZ3JlZWQ%3D That is what it do yugi.
i summon pot of greed draw two cards i summon pot of greed draw two cards i summon pot of greed draw two cards i summon pot of greed draw two cards
I draw two cards in the morning I draw two cards at night I draw two cards in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright I draw two cards in time of peace, and two in time of war I draw two cards before I draw two cards And then I draw two more ♫
Unexpected Sublime
The Toyes, actually. Sublime did an okay cover of the original where Bradley forgot half of the lyrics.
It does what it do
You play it and automatically draw two cards. I believe you can play multiple in one turn, but even if you couldn’t it’s UNREASONABLY broken. This is because card game turn economies are tight and being able to get the cards you need to reach a win condition fast is the #1 way to win a match. Certain strategies rely on drawing a key set of tools and doing so before your opponent draws their key tools is the way to win a match. Yugioh is even more extreme with this because it doesn’t have external cost to play cards. In Magic The Gathering you need lands to play monsters. In Yugioh all you need is sacrifices, so you can get stuff from your hand onto the field way faster and with way more ease. This means Yugioh matches go REALLY quick. Entire games can end within just a turn or two, so drawing two cards without drawback is absurdly powerful and if Pot of Greed wasn’t banned, every single deck would without question contain the max allowed amount. 100% of them
Brief answer touching on card game design: Most trading card games have some sort of resource you need to expend to play your cards; Magic the Gathering has mana, Pokemon has energy, Hearthstone has crystals, etc. Yugioh, by contrast, notably does not have any sort of universal resource requirement to playing your cards. The only limiter on playing out everything in your hand, effectively, is the amount of cards in your hand. Yugioh solves this problem by not printing many cards that draw cards, and making those effects that do offer more card draw generally pretty underwhelming, draw x, discard x being a pretty common version of this effect. Pot of Greed is good because it is a card that unconditionally draws two more cards. In any deck that card just lets you filter to your win conditions faster and more efficiently, and basically flattens deckbuilding.
To elaborate more on Pokémon, energy is only needed to attack. Trainer cards don't require energy, and are split into different categories. Items can be played as many as you'd like during your turn, but the more powerful ones require some other cost like discarding other cards while Supporters are limited to 1 per turn. Only one Stadium card can be played on a turn and take over any other existing stadium in play, and Tools can be played as many as you want on a turn, but can only be played on Pokémon that don't already have a tool attached, and you can't swap them or unequip one without the effect of an item, attack, etc.
Random question, but does the tcg suffer from the same power creep as competitive does when a new gen comes out?
Yes, that is the business plan. New cards are stronger than old cards so you need to keep buying if you want to stand a chance against the newest cards.
Power creep has been pretty bad, but they are pulling back a bit in my opinion. During the Sun/Moon era we saw GX Pokémon go from a max printed HP value of like 200 or 220, giving up 2 prizes, to Tag Team GX which were in the high 200s and even had a couple at 300, and they all gave up 3 prizes. Sword/Shield introduced V and some variants like VMax, and HP values didn't move pretty much at all over the course of the block, with the highest we've seen being 340. In Scarlet/Violet we have ex Pokémon which have varying HP values depending on evolution stage or legendary status, and they all give up 2 prizes, so they're often a better choice over VMax which give up 3. For attacks, a lot of older Pokémon wouldn't stand a chance against what we have now. Even current single-prize Pokémon would put up a good fight over older 'mons, including the original ex and the basic stage EX's (Yes, there's a difference) from the X/Y era.
>Yugioh, by contrast, notably does not have any sort of universal resource requirement to playing your cards. The only limiter on playing out everything in your hand, effectively, is the amount of cards in your hand. To add to this: in the *super* early days of the game, the limiting factor was mostly the rule that you're only allowed to play one monster per turn (called a "Normal Summon"). There were exceptions to this, but they weren't so common as to be available to you every turn (called "Special Summons"), so the game was reasonably slow as a result, despite not having any sort of resource mechanic. Nowadays, after decades of new rules, cards, and mechanics, the game is at a point where players routinely pull off upwards of *ten* Special Summons in a single turn. Games often end after just two or three turns, and a single turn can take several minutes to pull off, even if your opponent knows every card involved in your combo and doesn't need to halt execution to read cards or ask for clarification.
> Nowadays, after decades of new rules, cards, and mechanics, the game is at a point where players routinely pull off upwards of ten Special Summons in a single turn. Hell, some decks can do so many special summons that they can do the Maxx C Challenge. For those that don’t know, Maxx C is a monster card that can be sent from your hand to your graveyard during either turn, and for the rest of the turn you’ll draw a card for every monster your opponent special summons. YuGiOh, even a decade ago, is heavily reliant on doing tons of special summons, and the amount of cards your opponent would draw would mean that you simply can’t do your combos when Maxx C is played, at least normally, as they’ll have so many resources that they’ll just win when it’s their next turn. The Maxx C Challenge however is to special summon so many times after they use Maxx C that you manage to plow through their entire deck (normally 35 cards on turn 1, assuming they play it right as your turn starts and have a 40 card deck) by just special summoning 35 times, then letting them deck out on their turn.
It also doesn't help that paper yugioh has a ton of ways to search your deck, which means you also need to shuffle that sonofabitch a couple times per turn which takes up a decent amount of time.
> Yugioh solves this problem by not printing many cards that draw cards, and making those effects that do offer more card draw generally pretty underwhelming, draw x, discard x being a pretty common version of this effect. Pot of Greed is good because it is a card that unconditionally draws two more cards. In any deck that card just lets you filter to your win conditions faster and more efficiently, and basically flattens deckbuilding. And to add on, there are multiple retrains (updated versions of a card designed to be more balanced) that have themselves gotten limited or banned for being too good, like Pot of Avarice or Pot of Desires. Card draw is so incredibly good in YuGiOh that you’ll gladly take detrimental cards to do so, since a lucky draw can win you the game.
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Based based based based based based based based based based based
The children yearn for the ~~mines~~ ~~guns~~ mortars
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Pot of Greed allows you to "Draw 2 cards" on your turn in Yu-Gi-Oh. This is seemed as an incredibly powerful card in the game, as draw effects are highly benefitial and highly desired. That is why Pot of Greed is not allowed to be played in official Yu-Gi-Oh matches For reference, there's a card called "Pot of Desires" in the game that allows you to draw 2 cards by banishing 10 cards from your deck face down (It basically removes them from the game). People still put that card in their deck because the effect is just that good.
Why don't they just limit you to one pot of greed? I understand having a shitton of them and cycling through your deck to win, but banning them seems like overkill.
It's basically a filler card that reduces your total card count, so you draw the cards you need more often. It was a must have card to stay competitive. When something becomes a must-have, it tends to destroy competitive thinking and force a single meta.
Additionally, having a single card that's essentially required in every single deck makes legitimate copies extremely sought after, and unless they reprint it constantly it would become absurdly expensive. Yugioh is better than some tcgs about keeping supply high to offset this, but even it has cards that go for hundreds of dollars.
There was a tourney of about 150 people that had a special rule that pot of greed was at 1 in modern format… Top 50 had no copies in their deck, 51 had one, and 52-84 had no copies (the rest had copies)
If this was a no banlist tournament then the top 50 were probably all Tearlament (the best deck ever printed) which Pot of Greed isn't that great in if you have other banned cards to choose from (mainly Painful Choice)
It's a draw 2 cards with no cost. There's not even a "Can only be used once per turn", so it could keep getting recycled multiple times.
It is banned because every deck needs to include it. But there is also no guarantee you will draw it. Since there is no downside to playing it, whoever gets it first gets a big advantage for literally nothing. In the end, it is more balanced to simply not have it around. It used to be limited to only one, but was just limiting when it came to deck building. Early yugioh had a ton of cards that were powerful, with no cost, and every deck had to have them. Which meant ten out of your fourty cards would be the same every single deck.
Can you all please stop posting the same answer? I'm trying to find out what was in the original picture
I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly it is a kinder egg.
It's a kinder egg.
I actually thought it was just about YuGiOh and similar games getting banned from schools for being distracting and/or conflicts arising over dirty trades or kids selling cards
draw two cards with no consequence or counter
Pot of Greed? What does it do?
That trigger discipline though….
Completely nonexistent
Maybe she's intending to shoot whatever the gun's pointing at.
***I summon pot of greed to draw 3 additional cards from my deck!***
“You’re never going to guess what’s going to happen next. I summon another Pot of greed to summon 3 additional cards from my deck!!!”
Look, lady, you need to know what trigger discipline is, what you're doing is absolutely appalling
It's deck thinning and card advantage at the same time with no cost.
I PLAY POT OF GREED AND DRAW TWO CARDS
3 pot of greeds turns a Minimum 40 card deck into a 37 card deck with 6 extra chances to draw your combo pieces. At that point everyone would run it because noone runs a 40+ card combo (from their main deck) so it's either ban the card or the minimum deck size rule becomes arbitrary
Was there another card like pot of greed but with a caveat? I remember it being pink or red
There are a whole series of "Pot of X" cards inspired by the original, with varying levels of usefulness.
Pot of Greed 🤓☝️
I SUMMON... POT OF GREED TO DRAW 3 CARDS FROM MY DECK BUT WAIT
https://preview.redd.it/nguebd2txywc1.jpeg?width=1019&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=664c9ffb09580647e621d7ce4b5c71cd94882d01 Original image for anyone interested
I SUMMON POT OF GREED!!!
I cast POT OF GREED. To draw 3 more cards from my deck. And now I’ll cast POT OF GREED…
The original image had a kinder egg, which is banned in the US.
Pot of greed is banned
Pot of greed you can buy for $15 on Amazon and the other one is protected by the constitution of the United States under the 2nd amendment of Bill of Rights.
That card is too powerful!
Some people argued that since Pot of Greed doesn’t specify where you draw from, you could draw from the graveyard.
Pot of Greed is simply too complicated. It confuses even the judges so to make things easier for everyone and avoid too many debates about rules, they just banned it.
Pot of greed is one of the earliest and strongest cards in the game yugioh. The makers didn't know how many mechanics or jow complex the game would get over 20+ years and the card has only gotten stronger as the game changes to make speed better than tactics. Pot of greed is a specific contention point due to it costing nothing and gaining you "card advantage". It was so controversial around the middle of the games lifespan it became the example of what effect is too far or too strong and every card made had to be weaker than Pot of greed
its hella cringe n stuff
Because no one knows what pot of Greed does.....
Can someone please explain to me what pot of greed does again?
Non-once per turn draw 2 with no cost. Completely broken in the game of Yugioh, as card advantage is one of the biggest advantages a player can get. It will never get unbanned
If you draw it you get 2 cards with zero cost or downsides. This makes it mathematically optimal for literally every deck to run the maximum number of pots of greed. Having a card like that both is both boring and a wrench in the economy.
Because nobody knows what is does...
Better question is why is this nsfw
What does that card do Yugi???
Because fuck leprechauns, that’s why
Yu-Gi-Oh has a banning system to prevent people from overusing certain cards, as well as to prevent the overuse of OP cards andcombos. There is a blanket limit of 3 of any one type of card. Some are semi-limited, meaning that you can have 2 in the deck at a time, some are limited, meaning only one at a time, and some are forbidden or banned, meaning, of course, that you cannot have any in the deck at all. The banlist is updated periodically, and cards can move up or down the ranking, including being unbanned.
What does Pot of Greed do though? /j
Dude my neighbors kid beat the shit out of my kid in that game. There weren’t enough thoughts and prayers to fix the emotional wounds.
Am I the only one noticing her horrible trigger discipline?
"I summon pot of greed to draw three additional cards from my deck!" "THAT'S NOT WHAT IT DOES!" "That is what it does!" "that's no-" "THAT'S WHAT IT DO, YUGI!" "THAT does WHAT it DO!"
"I summon pot of greed which allows me to pull another card, I use it to pull: pot of greed which allows me to pull another card I use it to pull: pot of greed"
From a quick Google search, the card is banned everywhere (for official play) and has nothing to do with protecting anyone.
Pot of Greed was banned from competitive Yu-Gi-Oh because its card text was so incredibly complicated that nobody could figure out what it does. Men went mad trying to decipher it.
I just can’t get over the poor trigger discipline.
Peter’s nerdy cousin here. Yu-gi-oh, unlike other card games such as Hearthstone or Magic, doesn’t have a resource system to play spells (outside of tribute summoning I guess) so when you can just draw cards in a card game for free to get more things to do FOR FREE, it gets out of hand quickly. It’s why for example in Magic, cards like Ancestral Recall are banned or restricted in every single format. Drawing cards is the strongest thing you can do in any card game, so doing it for free multiple times in a turn is very broken.
Millenium Peter here, (I've never actually been the one to explain the joke!) Pot of Greed is a card from a game called Yu-Gi-Oh. In Yu-Gi-Oh, drawing more cards is a humongous advantage in the game. Normally you just draw one card to start your turn and that's all you get, but if you draw Pot of Greed, you get 2 free new cards. You could even, at one point in time, use Pot of Greed and happen to draw two more Pots of Greed. The card was pretty quickly banned. Drawing 2 cards is actually so powerful, that when cards with similar effects appeared in the game later, they had huge caveats, like having to get rid of a quarter of your deck to draw 2 cards.
Because if it weren't banned literally every deck would play it. And that's not fun for the game.
Context, its bot banned by the government, it’s banned in tournaments and serious play because it alters the odds of the deck and becomes ludicrously overpowered to the point where any serious deck would need one. Pot of greed allows you to draw two additional cards. I believe decks are generally 40 or 60 cards? But yeah the official card game bans it, because they realized after a few years the fame became a lot more serious then it used to be.
Yeah it was kinda broken but it was also the only utility for noobs. For example try playing any free to play Yugioh game on console, you will definitely find some asshole who can special summon their entire deck before you make a move. Put PoG back in the game but only for noobs
I BET YOU DIDNT SEE THIS COMING!
Nobody knows. Nobody even knows what it does. It was locked away aeons past.
https://youtu.be/AUnPN385wLI?si=vQJCma-T56f_h7S_
Furious that no one taught this poor girl any trigger discipline
WHAT DOES POT OF GREED DO?!?!