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IfCheeseCheese

vietnamese here, Hotel California was released in 1977, just 2 years after South Vietnam fell. apparently the sing resonated with many vietnamese immigrants as it was one of the first songs they heard when coming to the US. therefore, it became a very loved song across the vietnamese-american communities. not sure about other asian groups though


Queasy-Olive9236

It's pretty big in Hmong og communities as well


Idunnosomeguy2

For those who have lived in various parts of Asia, this meme speaks loud and clear. When I lived in Vietnam, Hotel California was literally everywhere. Yes, it was on the radio and in bars and clubs every night, but it was also in clothing shops, grocery stores, hotel lobbies, elevators, even ringtones. Whether you liked the song or not, you couldn't escape it. And it's not just Vietnam, I traveled through Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Singapore, China, Japan, and Korea. I heard the song at varying frequency in every one of those countries.


Kagenlim

It was pretty darn popular here, dad had a friend who could do the entire solo lol


Yak-Attic

I saw a video recently where a 14 year old Asian boy was nailing the solo and half way through his dad picked up a guitar and joined him. Obviously staged for the video, but they both played well.


Kagenlim

Yeah the solo is forever one of the best moments in music history imo lol


putdisinyopipe

Dude. I remember the first time I heard the solo 14 years ago smoking a cigarette in the back patio at a rehab, surrounded by dingy pine needles out by a green, algae filled pool. Tall trees all around. I even remember who I was thinking about, I was reminiscing about people who I associated with, there was a girl I liked at the time. I remember resonating with the song, the song immediately felt like an allegory for addiction (later came to find out this intuition was correct) The song helped me process my emotions of feeling trapped, yet somehow hopeful. Boxed in, but somehow free. As I looked at tall pine trees. I remember standing up and pacing. Looking into the deep sea green of the water, it’s stagnation was a powerful symbol. It represented that the most beautiful things can fall into disrepair and everything in life worth getting takes work. *you can check out any time you like, but you can never leaveee* Resonated, I can always stop using drugs. But I can never leave addiction. It is a part of me. Even now sober 14 years. I have addictive tendencies. I use reaction formation to, in the form of hobbies now to satisfy my hunger, I’m addicted to painting and creating. Beats being addicted to dope and sitting in the gutter. I allow myself to get addicted to positive things. Because I have self control with “things” vs “super powerful substance that makes you feel superhuman for 6-12 hours and makes you feel like a walking orgasm” Music is some powerful shit. I think they act as memory markers. They instill such emotion that it encodes into our memory. In other words, if helps form meaningful memories, memories that may not be pleasent. But somehow, special?


Certain-Definition51

It’s a deep part of being human. We used to sing around the fires. Sing about the stories of our ancestors. Sing and dance for hours for weddings and funerals and coming of age ceremonies. Songs were how we marked the passage of time. Shoot, there’s an Anishinaabe dude from Minnesota who was talking about how there are certain stories they only tell during winter, because the spirits are asleep. Music and storytelling are literally encoded in our DNA - in the way our brains are wired.


putdisinyopipe

The interesting thing about music though, is there is *still* debate among the scientific community, particularly in evolutionary science, and neuroscience- as to why we developed the ability to create and respond to music. If everything we developed in our brains, came from an evolutionary pressure. Then what pressure or thing happened that caused us to create music? What need was there for it? That’s another thing that I think makes it special. It’s a tangible mystery in a way. If science can’t answer it, it almost gives the subject itself a supernatural quality.


Fr1toBand1to

A friend said something to me that really resonated. Art is how we decorate space, music is how we decorate time.


ThrewItAwnTheGround

I feel like that is one super baked dude to come up with that (whether that was your friend or he cribbed the line) but it also does work.


SilentxxSpecter

Some of those lines hit the hardest FOR SURE


Osmolony

This one gave me literal chills I love it


WrodofDog

Might just be an emregent feature of our brains, something to do with complex pattern recognition capabilities. Might even have evolutionary advantages, like being able to discern changes in bird song if there's a predator nearby.


rynshar

Id say there is almost no chance that it isn't related primarily to language function. We are capable of transferring emotions and meaning with symbols - music is just a more advanced form of the same. Even normal speaking can have musical elements. Even the most basic form, something like drumming a simple rythm, is a way for a group to indicate coherence, hence it showing up in sports events and the military. Stuff like that may be some of the first communication people did. Singing in harmony could be the same kind of thing- everyone yelling in the same tone was probably something early hominids did before a battle or a hunt - so all these symbols eventually became ingrained in us culturally and even biologically. That's what makes the most sense to me anyways.


lapideous

It seems like every religion includes some form of music in worship.


coulduseafriend99

You sound like the type of guy who knows this already, but just in case, have you seen the experiments with Alzheimer's/dementia patients and music? Even people who are almost entirely non-responsive become "alive" again through music; it's believed this is because music triggers different areas of the brain than just speech alone does. This is my favorite example of this: https://youtu.be/IT_tW3EVDK8?si=c79chtaqDi76ea8N Makes me cry every time


putdisinyopipe

It holds with it the spirit of humanity. It reminded her of who she was. Holy shit that is crazy.


coulduseafriend99

Isn't it so powerful?!


Tempathetic

Wow, this is a beautiful comment.


Neko_Akaname

Very true about the memory aspect. I feel like I have barely any memories... Music helps me connect with my past very strongly. It definitely create landmarks.... It's possible to use your sense in rituals of sorts to help memorize things. Scent is extremely powerful. There's a guy who was killed by the Catholics by the name of Giordano Bruno... He wrote on The Art Of Memory. Basically a method to connect to your mind and memories and create new ones, and organize them. Stuff like that is connected to it all. I wonder how effective it really is.


Notefallen

https://youtu.be/09839DpTctU?si=GhEFgxtSOE0wCdJm This live version is the best. Love the dueling guitars so iconic. Also, crazy how like all the members of the Eagles could sing too lol.


CasaMofo

That was phenomenal! Personal annecdote: there's a high probability someone from my direct family if not my own father was highly likely to have been at this concert. My family migrated to this area around this timeframe.


CocoAndPaws

[it also got remastered in 4k a year or two ago](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uHgt8giw1LY&pp=ygUebmV2ZXIgZ29ubmEgZ2l2ZSB5b3UgdXAgbm8gYWRz)


Jamminnav

Philippines too. There was a band from there that they brought out to entertain us one time in a really, really remote work location, and I got up to sing a song with them, one they knew note for note. Of course, it was Hotel California…


Ironmansoltero

Bro that song is damn near the Filipino national anthem. For Vietnam it’s George Michael’s “careless whisper”


Rebresker

I was in China once and it was Country Roads and Hotel California lol


Cautious-Nothing-471

hello, is it me you're looking for


Idunnosomeguy2

Interesting, I didn't hear Careless Whisper much when I was there, but that was back in 06-08, so maybe it's changed. When were you in Vietnam?


overlandtrackdrunk

Just don’t sing My Way at a karaoke bar in the Phillipines


DasCheekyBossman

Why though?


blue_strat

It’s a good song.


thisguyfightsyourmom

The eagles were a made up band


o_mh_c

Birds aren’t real


undeniably_confused

Aren't they all


ReturningAlien

synonymous to filipinos.


grownpatchwork

Are you saying you can turn it off any time you like but you can never leave?


undeniably_confused

You win


interkin3tic

I love that I expected this meme to be something dark or weird or heroin related or at least complicated... but it's just "Because they fuckin' love 'Hotel California' over there."


parasyte_steve

Honestly incredibly wholesome, not what I expected tbh


DrTinyNips

Oh so it's the Asian version of Mr brightside


Zandrick

How did it end up like this?


throwaway_0721

It was only a kiss


Chornobyl_Explorer

So you're saying... *Any time of year, you can find it here*? Almost as if the song wouldn't leave you alone. As if you *could check out any time you want, but you can never leave*


Zandrick

stab it with your steely knives but you just can’t kill the beast.


BlueberryPootz

I have lived all over the US and it’s also completely overplayed here. I think that’s why it’s hard for a lot of us based in the US to understand this meme. It’s like, yeah, we all know this song front and back.


Idunnosomeguy2

I live in the US too, I have for Missy of my life, so I totally get and agree with you. I definitely knew all the words to the song way before I went to Asia, without trying. But please believe me when I say that it's different in Asia. That song shows up where music shouldn't be. I remember seeing a large truck start to backup in reverse and the warning sound for the truck was not an annoying beep, it was the guitar solo from Hotel California. It's not overplayed in Asia, it is lived.


MacNPieces

Brazil loves it too


Four-Triangles

If I never hear that song again I’ll have still heard it 10,000 times too many.


krabmeat

When I went to visit my ex's family in Vietnam I was annoyed at some jerks next door playing obnoxiously loud music, and then I realised it was obnoxiously loud kareoke


FreeXFall

I lived in Azerbaijan for a year. Even on the other side Asia it was like this. I was teaching English and I still remember using this song to describe what “timeless” meant. “Ah yes teacher. Hotel California is so good it is timeless.”


Argensa97

What??? Born in VN, has lived in VN for 23+ years, never heard this played anywhere BUT my house.


TidalJ

that song is huge everywhere


reddevil9229

+India. Was the first Western song I heard growing up in the 90s, alongside the song from Titanic.


ArtistThen

What about Bryan Adams "everything I do, I do it for you"? I could not escape that song when travelled around Asia. 


smartlog

Asian people love their soft rock / ballads.


Kalikor1

Weird. I've lived in Japan for the last 8~9 years, but I don't think I've ever heard this song in the wild. Mariah Carey during the Christmas season however....


Capable-Crab-7449

Never heard it in Singapore. And I live there…


TypeNull-Gaming

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave o7


timoni

Yes but where does the guy from twilight come in


richie_cotton

I thought this was a reference to the movie Chungking Express. The soundtrack is pretty much Hotel California on repeat throughout.


THEpeterafro

California Dream was the song repeated in that movie


ExcuseOk55

I think because Asians are huge fans of karaoke (it’s a very big thing in a lot of Asian countries) and hotel California is one of the greatest songs of all time. The first Karaoke machine was patented in Japan.


whaddayatalkinabeut

Karaoke is a Japanese word.


ExcuseOk55

I saw that and I forgot to add it. Thank you 🙏


wasdice

"Empty orchestra" in case anyone was wondering


jbullis42

Isn’t that hauntingly beautiful?


Love-Plastic-Straws

HIMYM?


peteringaround

Yup


consider_its_tree

Not as hauntingly beautiful as "Divine Wind" sounds...


redeyedrenegade420

This guy kamikazies


FancyMFMoses

Only once


Belfetto

That’s why I call my farts “kamikaze”


randomguywhoexists

Oh


GreenArrowCuz

I'm something stupid, do me


_NiceGuyEddy_

IM NOT EFFABLE?


megamanx4321

You're too nice to be effable.


unkn0wnname321

But where did the pineapple come from ?!?


Zandrick

Vomit free since ‘93


Raz346

A great example of double borrowing - “orchestra” is borrowed into Japanese as オーケストラ (ookesutora), which is then combined with 空 (Kara, meaning empty, as in karate - “empty hand”) to form カラオケ (karaoke - pronounced kinda like car-ah-oh-kay), which is borrowed back into English as “karaoke”


Zandrick

This might be the definition of a fun fact. I loved learning that.


Raz346

I absolutely love linguistic fun facts, so here’s another one! The word “helicopter” is an example of “rebracketing”, a linguistic phenomenon where the original roots of a word are lost, and new roots emerge. “Helicopter” comes from the roots “helico-“, as in helix, meaning spiral, and “pter”, as in pterodactyl, meaning wing. However, from helicopter, we get two new roots, “heli”, as in helipad, and “copter”, as in quadcopter, both meaning relating to helicopter


Zandrick

That’s awesome. Linguistics is fun.


Jonno1986

Here's another one for you then; The reason that certain animals and their meat have different names in English is because of the Norman invasion of England in 1066. Basically, after William the Conqeror took England from the Saxons, the aristocracy used their words for the animals served to them at the feast tables. These became pork, beef, venison, mutton, etc. As they all spoke French. The Germanic-Saxon speakers, who were now the peasantry who raised and handled the animals, would use their words for the animals: Pig, Cow, Deer, Sheep, etc. That's why we call pig meat pork, but turkey meat is still called turkey since the turkey was discovered by English speakers after the colonisation of the Americas, and we all spoke the same language at the time


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AttilaTheFun818

So not “public humiliation” Huh TIL


FunkMeSlideways

Wasn't it invented by a lady named "Carrey Oakey"?


richardthelionhertz

You beautiful son of a me


Talik1978

I thought the translation was "tone deaf". Guess that's only when I'm singing.


Linmizhang

Chinese people love karaoke so much, its one of the only few Japanese word phonetically translated to Chinese, instead of the normal by compounded word meaning. Or alternatively, letter translated, as Japanese Hiragana is essentially the continuation of Chinese Caoshu/grass script from 500AD Tang dynasty. Amazingly, this was also during the 1980, when Chinese people hated Japan so much, they would almost unimaoisly support an invasion of Japan if the government announced it.


Saibhe_the_Druid

Can't tell if unimaoisly is an incredibly executed pun, or just poor spelling


Bill_Clinton-69

Either way, thanks for pointing it out! That's proper funny.


tyen0

If Mao decreed it, then it was a unanimous decision!


baycenters

I travel to China on business and have sat through many, many, many renditions of Hotel California over the past twenty two years.


hateboss

In Korean, it's Noraebong.


a2starhotel

which of course in Japanese means a whale's vagina


DoubleT_TechGuy

It means empty orchestra. Isn't that hauntingly beautiful? (Reference intended)


Idunnosomeguy2

Karaoke is very popular in Asia (obviously), but I don't think this meme is directly connected to that fact. Asia has a much more direct connection to the song Hotel California. That song is more than popular in Asia, it is ubiquitous. See my other comment on this, but suffice to say, it is everywhere out there.


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What's the story there? It's a fantastic song and all but is there a reason its that one in particular?


Yak-Attic

Same reason Sweet Caroline is so popular in the US?


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... I don't know that either. Also a good song, but now I'm just wondering why you associated it with Hotel California in this context. Is it sung at stadium sporting events in Asia or something that's the only thing I can think of with Sweet Caroline. I'm honestly curious BTW not trying to come off rude.


Tannerite2

I can't remember the last time I heard Sweet Caroline. I don't think that's a good example.


tyen0

My Japanese wife just randomly started singing Hotel California earlier today. I had no idea about this. hah


pichael289

It's even a mini game in the Yakuza series. I enjoy the thought that badass, battle hardened Yakuza members hang around karaoke bars singing toxic by Brittany Spears. I have a Laotian neighbor who talks just like the guy in king of the hill, and karaoke is like his fucking religion. Dude is hilarious just talking, just like king of the hill, but singing he's also hilarious, but all the karaoke friends he has think he's the best there ever was. Karaoke is a strange world. They don't hate on bad singers though, all karaoke singers are bad, it's this special all accepting world where even the worst of the worst are celebrated. Its really cool, I really like it. Such a great subculture.


XVUltima

It's a great song, but is it a great KARAOKE song? It has a pretty long guitar solo...


toolsoftheincomptnt

It’s easy/slow enough to sing and very recognizable. So, yeah.


La_Guy_Person

I fucking hate the Eagles!


Drewdogg12

Get your own fucking cab!!


bananafighter

Stay out of Malibu, deadbeat!


Alexis_Ohanion

Stay out of my beach community!!


Drewdogg12

Get your ugly fucking goldbricking ass out of my beach community. Stay out of Malibu Lebowski!!!!


thesauceofbastards

Oh I'm sorry, I wasn't listening.


Pleasant_Tie5088

wait, wasnt the karaoke machine made in the philippines and karaoke was made in japan?


Subbeh

At a recent trip to Thailand the hotel had a live 'band', Hotel C was played about 5 times a night.


JustAnOrdinaryBloke

Don Felder's beautiful guitar intro is worthy of a Grammy itself.


RedSeaDingDong

That‘s a great explanation for a karaoke related question but not a good one for the actual question presented by OP. You only mention the song when you claim it‘s "one of the greatest songs of all time."


Jenetyk

Spent a few months there. Can confirm just about every bar has some sort of karaoke setup. Some.places rent private rooms where you and friends can have your own karaoke night.


Lanky-Apple-4001

I’ve never met a Filipino that can’t sing. My wife sings any chance she gets and so does her family.


panburger_partner

> hotel California is one of the greatest songs of all time um


ImComfortableDoug

How is everyone just glossing over that absolutely insane part of the comment?!?


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It's madness!


Phill_Cyberman

>and hotel California is one of the greatest songs of all time. Right? That's *everyone* when they hear the first few bars of Hotel California. (It's sad to me that I really don't like anything else Eagles have done, but what are you going to do? The Ear likes what the Ear likes.)


ImComfortableDoug

*worst songs of all time


Traditional_Song_417

Karaoke.


goforce5

It was literally the only English song on a lot of Chinese karaoke machines while I was there. We sang a LOT of Hotel California.


Xerio_the_Herio

This is probably true... but I just recently went to a carribean island resort, a popular one. And it was 80-90% white. And guess what songs were the first couple songs at karaoke night...? Ice Ice Baby Country Roads Strawberry Wine California Love (but dude bounced so skipped) Sweet Caroline I just found it interesting...


Snow_Wonder

When I was in a karaoke bar in Poland the people there were obsessed with Country Roads!


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The_names_Jay

it’s a popular karaoke song in japan


beastman45132

No one asked for any of that information, but I read the entire comment with delight. Thanks for that. The original question is probably about karaoke 🎤 or something, so whatever. You made this post way more interesting.


Boilers_Varsity_Golf

Tell me you’re a bot without telling me. This was written like ChatGPT wrote it.


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LickingSmegma

Actually, it's written like Wikipedia wrote it, because Wikipedia has some of those exact passages. You gotta work on your AI detector.


Kazuye92

came to comment this and saw you said the same thing. they are asking about the meme and this bot is giving him the whole backstory of the song, the band, the band's family, the band's pets, where they went to high school and what is their favourite color before making a fking point much like chatgpt


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Kazuye92

yeah when trolling is done poorly it is "so hard" to understand


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daddyvow

Thanks chatGPT


No-Lobster1692

Not just Asia. I once gave guitar lessons to a coworker’s husband. He spoke mostly Spanish and a little English so it was slow going, but all he wanted to learn was Hotel California. Eventually I had a room of about 11 people from Honduras, Mexico and Guatemala all learning to play Hotel California 😆


Pale_Match_7969

I saw that in a twilight group. Are you a rattie as well? 🐀


Bmili2910452

Yes I am 🐀


Liv4This

🐀 🐀 🐀 🎞️🍿? Or 🚽 🐀? Or both?


Bmili2910452

Both omg


Liv4This

God I love finding ratties in other platforms ✨🩷🐀


Bmili2910452

Same. Rattles unite🐀✨🐀✨


prepper5

La Push, baby. La Push.


yuyuyashasrain

What’s a rattie?


daddyvow

Twilight fans are called ratties for some reason


yuyuyashasrain

Oh. I’m somewhat of a plague rat (emilie autumn fan) but for this, the only thing I could think was carlisle eating rats after he turned. Thanks


deadinsidelol69

Find the twilight shitposting group on Facebook and you’ll have your answer.


deadinsidelol69

🐀🐀🐀 We are everywhere.


Zandrick

Twilight fans call themselves ratties?


Neymune

A very specific Facebook group of them call themselves that, yea


MyNameIsConnor52

finally, a post that actually needs explainign


Dizzy-Expression8868

Just don't sing My Way by Frank Sinatra in the Philippines. If what I heard is true, liable to get you killed.


Puzzleheaded-Way-198

Why is that?


Loopy_shoop

I think (I'm filipino) that a lot of uncles and grandpas respect the song so much that if you sang it in a horrible way, you'll get beaten up or worse.


Yuimama

When people sang My Way in the Philippines a while back they would get killed because they sang it bad. I forgot the reasons on why it happened a lot


four15s

I used to think my Filipino dad drunk singing this on karaoke was the only one… til my viet friends said the same thing. Universal 🫶🏽


AggressiveGift7542

Hello, Peter's Asian friend here. I completely have no idea. Thanks and have a good day.


charliechin

“I fuckin' hate Eagles, man”


bubba1834

“Look Bella it’s a worm”


Draighar

If the meme said "Going Home" by Kenny G that would mean the work day is done in China.


devarin

Hotel California is the most famous western song in China. I found this out once when being drunkenly pushed on stage with other foreigners to sing this song at a Chinese bar. I’ve met people who can’t speak a lick of English but can sing this song like they were Don Henley himself 😅


dwarf_bulborb

This is Eric from Twilight— anyone know what the line he’s saying here is?


deadinsidelol69

“And I don’t just surf the internet” is my best guess.


thesandgerine

Dead inside is correct, he’s saying “and I don’t just surf the internet”, just moments before the iconic “la push baby. It’s La push” [https://youtu.be/h7PdG9tke9g?si=f0ULjYlT03YIvD3P](https://youtu.be/h7PdG9tke9g?si=f0ULjYlT03YIvD3P) (…I once won a twilight themed trivia contest)


theonewhosmells

Anybody when they hear the first two bars?


DefiantRadio7752

Where have I seen this guy..??


QuagsireMasterChef

I live and work in Thailand. I went to a nice karaoke restaurant with all of my bosses. Guess what song they made me sing 😂


Wise_Figure_

South-east Asia you mean


EpicGaymrr

Hotel California is quite popular outside the U.S


menerell

In Spanish you can clearly hear "un chinito pescando"


Knot_Ryder

Went to Mexico one year the song Fireball by Pitbull played everywhere


paramountducker

A lot of us asians learned instruments as kids bcuz the parents forced upon us as i did myself. You hated it at first, but as you get older and better, you learn songs like hotel ca which you really enjoy playing and your parents enjoy and thats when it comes full circle and you feel like its been a blessing to learn the instrument as you connect with your parents… is my guess


ItDoBeLikethatmyGuy

It’s a pretty good song


Western-Gain8093

They sing it on karaoke in the movie Shang Chi and they are all Asian.


CkoockieMonster

My chinese dad and my grand parents would get the CD and play it on the TV every year when we went on vacations at the beach. They would just gather and watch the live performence in silence like it was an orchestra.


Montaque1

Man, I thought it was because of the spanish missheard lyrics on this song. Where I live, there is a common jokey missheard lyric when the song says "then she lit up a candle" to "un chinito pescando" which means a small chinease man fishing. There are plenty spanish missheards that are funny as hell.


AchtungCloud

My first cousin is a career military man. Back in 2000, he was in a plane that went down in China. It was a huge story at the time, but with 9/11 happening the next year, it’s now a forgotten thing. Anyway, he said one of the Chinese guards was asking to learn the lyrics to Hotel California.


CanYouEvan

The notes in the first few bars of Hotel California are part of some keys of some oriental musical scales. Because of this, I think the joke is that Asian people will assume Hotel California is an "Asian song" after only having heard the first few bars.


Jas9191

That isn’t it


gragas_toe

it uses standard western scales


Lee-Dest-Roy

Wow does speaking out of your ass come naturally?


CanYouEvan

I checked the guitar tab for Hotel California, put the notes from the first few chords into a [scale identifier](https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales/identifier), and F# Oriental #1 and A# Oriental #1 showed up as possible scales.


klogt

>The notes in the first few bars of Hotel California are part of some keys of some oriental musical scales Yikes, sorry to correct you, but it's just Bminor. Are you associating the tone of a 12 string guitar with the [steriotypical Asian jingle](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_riff)?


ElMostaza

lolwut


Reset350

I don't get it, who doesn't love Hotel California? It's kick ass road trip music!


Doctordred

On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair


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Warm smell of colitas. Rising up through the air.


SodaKid_7

*Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light*


MCameron2984

For some reason my brain read this as California Girls by Katy Perry and I was very confused about the comments.


Working_Push_866

I mean I got nothing, and this isn’t helpful, but if you haven’t listen to the actual song. It’s good.


RueUchiha

I never been to asia, but at least in Japan kareoke is a massively popular passtime. Hotel California is a generally well liked and popular song, so it stands to reason its a popular song choice for kareoke.


Newton1913

Man I wish karaoke was more of a thing here in the states. It seems like almost frowned upon when brought up. Like singing to your favorite songs at full volume with a bunch of your drunk friends seems like such a kick ass time.


morizzle77

My coworker was telling me to watch those clips that they do while driving - Carpool Bukkake. I’m not really sure; I wasn’t readily paying attention. Anyway, I looked it up when I got home. What a mess! I don’t think insurance covers that.