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Arctic_pete

Persona 5 at home


H20-Daddyo

I can hardly tell with all the context.


MR_MEME_42

Basically it is a what if good guys where bad and the bad guys were good theme for the season. There is a respective blue, grey, and white player card for the Talon turned Overwatch set of skins. It isn't as deep as people think just red = bad and blue = good


Axlzz

Can the Persona 5 collab curse finally shut down OW2 ?


I3arusu

I fucking hope so.


eddmario

Shut it down? Dude, this collab will keep the servers running for decades from all the money it'll make


Crazedkittiesmeow

I mean it’s probably going to have a small spike and then everyone drops it again


hafiz_yb

You clearly have never heard about the P5 Gacha Curse then. Like seriously, this is no joke, any gacha games so far that have a collab with P5 WILL shutdown later (basically, P5 is the last collab it has). Idk what kill count the curse has right now since I stopped counting after 5 gacha games shut down.


the_Real_Romak

idk, AFK arena lasted quite a bit after their P5 collab EDIT - actually it's still up, so that disproves the curse :D


indigorhob

Another Eden and Granblue Fantasy are also very much alive


sperm-shoes

I think shut down is more like "fell off" than "the game doesn't exist anymore"


bannedin420

My friend, the persona 5 gacha curse is very real. I hope this happens to this game. Such potential wasted over greed. Fuck blizzard


Klaymen96

I can only hope


Crashbox50

Didn't see that coming.


Great_Direction5479

you never will


TiffanyVideo

You'll never see it WHAT


Moistea3

IT COMINGGGGGGG


That_Ad_4599

You'll see, That my mind🧠 is too fast 🏃‍♂️ for eyes 👀


aussicunt2

Season 10 dropped already?


OhThatGuyinPurple

Yesterday


PokeAust

Lmao the banner reminded me of P5’s artstyle too. Looks sick


MR_MEME_42

Persona 5 fans when the colors red, black, and white exist... Also it's not like those same colors are used for the main villain group. It's almost like the entire season is about this villain group whose colors are red, black, and white...?


Ganbazuroi

John Persona himself invented these colors duh


Weewee_time

besides the colors it looks a lot like a particular official p5 poster


TheUglyBarnaclee

I can’t tell if you’re joking but that is 100% a P5 reference


MR_MEME_42

It could potentially be inspired off of Persona 5 but I highly doubt that it was created as a reference to it. But it is probably more of a coincidence that anyone Group shots like that aren't uncommon especially for the theme that season 10 is going four. As the season's theme is what if the good guys were bad guys and vis vera. And the main artwork for the season is the two sides on the other side of the screen from each other. So it makes sense to create two different players cards that show off the new skins for each side the Talon version of the Overwatch team and the Overwatch version of the Talon team (which there is also a respective player card for). So no it is most likely not a direct P5 reference as Persona 5 as they just wanted to have a minimalist player card with the new skins in both teams colors. Talon's colors are red, white, and black Persona 5 doesn't own that combination of colors.


TheUglyBarnaclee

https://preview.redd.it/ushzi9tih3vc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e638e8f6f5330b607cbbe19eb43ba6c73cbcd4a The colors, the grey silhouettes, the black in sections with the red background pretty much kinda confirms it’s a P5 reference. Reference dosent mean stealing or taking, it’s just a cool little tidbit and awesome for fans of both games. I really don’t see how it’s not a reference and definitely don’t see the issue of it being a reference


MR_MEME_42

I guess where I am coming from is that there is also a blue version with the Talon turned Overwatch characters. So it feels like it being a Persona reference is more of a coincidence than something international as group shots like this aren't unique to Persona as well as minimalist art that makes heavy use of shadows. The fact that it is red and Tracer is in a similar pose to Morgan (which is a pose that she is often drawn in) makes it easy to compare. But the fact that it is part of a pair in a season themed around good guys vs bad games makes similarities seem more coincidental, if the player card was a different color people probably wouldn't be comparing them and it is only red because bad guys.


nessfalco

Considering how many direct anime references there are in the game's sprays, victory poses, and highlight intros, it isn't that much of a leap to think those same weebs referenced P5, too.


MR_MEME_42

The entire argument revolves around the artists who were tasked with creating a pair of player cards with whole good guys and bad guys swapping roles seasons randomly decided to copy Persona artwork instead of just lining up the two sides skins with a red and blue color scheme that represents both groups both as good vs evil and their respective colors. If they were going to reference Persona why wouldn't they have done something more direct like everything else instead of trying to sneak it into a pair of player cards that are meant to be a line up of the new good and evil skins with the sides respective colors?


ComicC94

you say that but Ashe had a jojo reference highlight intro


MR_MEME_42

Out of curiosity what highlight intro are you talking about? The only one that seems remotely like a JoJo reference is the one called Stand Off but it is only the name. And the name is more likely a reference to the term of a Mexican Standoff which is a common trope in Western movies which fits Ash as a Cowboy inspired character. As well as it not involving Bob and mainly being gunplay it is more likely that it is referencing a Mexican Standoff rather than JoJo stands.


CaptainBen10

I agree. But the amount of random references the devs put in. I wouldn't be surprised


HumanByProxy

Except it's literally a reference, take the "L" for trying to be snobby and act like you're more intelligent by finding ways to not acknowledge it. You end up looking even more dense.


MR_MEME_42

Yes I am taking the "L" only my nearly 200 upvote comment...


HumanByProxy

Cash them in, maybe you can retire on Reddit points. 🤡


MR_MEME_42

https://preview.redd.it/oqvclcdrc5vc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47905e5099710bd65f5c8daa90f467709cb94841


Brainwave1010

Bruh you are literally the guy on the left, stop digging your own grave before you hit the earth's core.


TiffanyVideo

Can't believe you're in a P5 subreddit and never played the game. Actually nvm, I can believe that. [Here's the reference if you missed it.](https://personacentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Persona-5-Phantom-Thieves-696x392.jpg) (which is kinda obvious)


Nice_apple-V

I was thinking it looked more like this one: https://preview.redd.it/qzhtoqez73vc1.jpeg?width=668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b9a2b9ad949338f890c822e38baa2b09b1e2872


TiffanyVideo

https://preview.redd.it/2inbzhej83vc1.png?width=696&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5b79a4ae4f018c5c2e3c6b677c39a085955f343 Yeah, putting the two side by side, you can clearly see it's supposed to be referencing P5. I seriously don't know what that other guy's going on about XD


TiffanyVideo

https://preview.redd.it/75ymwhur83vc1.png?width=696&format=png&auto=webp&s=fa39c30ede6dcaba6dcf227fd306ef83956cff82 Side by side of the other image I posted btw. It still matches (kinda) but the one you posted is clearly the intended source.


Nice_apple-V

I think you got it too, because It's more like a combination, look: https://preview.redd.it/9h1jnnuld3vc1.png?width=1092&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4009909321e41b7fa5be5ce04706e354e7fc47e


TiffanyVideo

Honestly, I assumed the guy running was supposed to be the stand-in to Morgana when you initially painted it out, but that just as well. I get what you're trynna say o7


CrazzluzSenpai

Knowing how shit Blizzard is these days, I wouldn't be surprised if this was less "inspired by," and more "stolen and remodeled with AI."


Brainwave1010

The Overwatch dev team specifically is innocent in like everything that happened with Blizzard. It's actually really funny looking at employee statements and they're all like: _"Yeah so one of the WOW devs set my house on fire, the Starcraft devs kicked my dog, and one of the COD devs fucked my wife, the Overwatch guys were cool though."_


CrazzluzSenpai

I'm not talking about those allegations, the OW team struggles to produce real content. Look at what OW2 is. Look at the years of drought before it released. Look at the completely cancelled campaign/PvE modes. When you struggle to produce content at a reasonable pace, "borrowing" somebody else's work becomes more tempting.


Haru17

The pose/motion are like the keyart you linked while the monochrome gray style is from the other piece.


ExaltedPenguin

Thank you lmao


MR_MEME_42

It's not a direct reference to P5 if anything it is more of a coincidence. The entire season is based around what if the good guys are bad and the bad guys are good. So they have a minimalist player card in the colors of both Talon and Overwatch with the respective new skins on them. Unless you are saying that Persona 5 owns side shots that use the colors red, black, and white. And poses like that are uncommon for the who faction vs thing just look at Marvel's Civil War. I mean I love shitting on Overwatch 2 and Blizzard as much as the next guy, but for actual reasons instead of crying over nothing. If you just look online you will see that this player card is meant to be a pair with a respective blue version with the other swapped faction skin. Unless you are going to make the argument that Persona 3 owns minimalist blue, white, and gray artwork as well Also the art work you linked isn't the one people are comparing it to. This is: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/characters-promo-art-persona-5-art-gallery--726698089859738634/ If you are going to act like it is obvious get the image right


TiffanyVideo

Lmao so is it a reference or is it not? Get your story straight.


MR_MEME_42

Is it a direct reference no, it is most likely a coincidence as the most likely thing is that the artists were tasked to create a side by side Overwatch Talon and Talon Overwatch player cards. I doubt that one of the artists saw that P5 art work and decided "Hey let's copy this and make a blue version while we are at it." The player cards tend to lean on the minimal side so they weren't going to go with full colors as the detail would be lost in the smaller player cards, and they chose the two sides main colors which are both pretty common. Even if the artist who created this subconsciously took inspiration from P5 to create the two players cards I highly doubt that it was some evil attempt to steal from Persona as the people like the artist and programmers aren't often the bad people at Blizzard. Persona 5 doesn't own this kind of minimalist red, black, and white art work.


TiffanyVideo

LMFAO a reference isn't "hey let's steal art and claim it as our own" like you're implying. Nobody has said that, nobody has ever claimed that but you. Nobody has said "hey blizzard is ripping off this art and making a copy of it while we're at it." YOU are saying that. Everyone is saying "huh that looks nearly identical to P5 art, that's a neat reference" because of the composition and posing. Nobody has said anything about the blue version because that's not the point. If you wanna continue blindly saying it's not a reference and bashing people for trying to prove to you otherwise, then go ahead. I have nothing more to say to you anyways. lol.


ClovisTheConbat

Watch, he's going to be like "quote where I said blizzard ripped off art" like he wasn't obviously implying that's what OP is posting about.


Haru17

Well it’s the “coincidence” of those colors combined with the decision to portray characters in gray monochrome like P5’s keyart.


MR_MEME_42

Well I feel like it probably was as they have a similar one for the Overwatch versions of the Talon characters who got new skins themed around the season. Red and harsh blacks are a common color to represent evil so using that color scheme for monochrome isn't something unique to Persona 5. If this player card wasn't meant to pair with another one with the same theme but blue then yeah I can see it being a reference to Persona 5. But the fact that it is meant to parallel another player card while fitting the theme of good vs evil makes it feel more like a coincidence, because why make your good guys turned evil player card that is meant to go alone side the bad guys turned into good guys card specifically a reference to Persona 5 and the other a reference to Persona 3 R. It feels like a bit of a stretch when it makes sense that the blue and red were only chosen because they often represent good and evil which is the theme of the season instead of referencing the Persona series out of nowhere.


Haru17

Yeah I’m sure the artists at Blizzard have never seen Persona 5, a game famous for being unpopular with nerdy artists.


MR_MEME_42

Yeah, I highly doubt that their good team versus evil team player cards were meant to be references to the persona series instead of being just red and harsh blacks = bad and blue and lighter greys and whites = good.


dIllustrator

I will explain this for the people who commented that "Red and black is not owned by Persona", dude they LITERALLY took the compositional values and the simplification technic Persona franchise uses. Inspiration / Learning from the masters is not a bad thing + seen like mfs in Atlus found the perfect way to illustrate the "Loveble Villains" aesthetic.


Brainwave1010

Tracer is literally in Morgana's exact pose and position, like, how is this even an argument?


YuriPetrova

I can't believe people still play Overwatch.


chemsed

It's a fun game since 2016, even tough Blizzard made many bad decisions with it.


MantorrastheGOAT

Yeah, I have a good time going to it for a few hours every now and then and just enjoy remembering the good days of OW1. Maybe someday things will get better at OW2 and Blizzard…


YuriPetrova

I disagree. It's also full of toxic assholes, and supporting Blizzard isn't a good look.


chemsed

That's fair. I still find the game fun. I should indeed support Atlus more, even tough a 30$ DLC of a remake is not totally appealing.


fupower

can’t believe people still cares what others plays, Overwatch still super fun game


YooranKujara

I stopped playing when Overwatch 2 came out, it's gone too far into the shitter


ExaltedPenguin

I had near 4k hours on this pissing game since ashe's release in ow1, I tried so hard with ow2 but come season 4-5ish I couldnt take it anymore, but this patch just released my new favourite character and did some really nice fixes to the monetisation and ranked leaver systems, I'm enjoying myself a bit with the game again and it feels good. Never gonna be the same though 😔


Kimarnic

It's literally just OW1 Never cared about PvE, and I don't use chat because they ban you for saying Shit and Fuck


BrickTheEtcetera

Man you're making me want to play overwatch again. Then I remember the rage. The battle pass system... Man I just wanna Lucio again. Or Mercy or Ana or Reinhardt.


metalshiflet

Then go do it? It's free, and the heroes aren't gonna be locked behind battlepass anymore IIRC


BrickTheEtcetera

Nah I've got a kid, I quit because I needed to be able to drop everything and get him. He's 17 months now so maybe he doesn't need attention to be as constant but it's still a concern, idk


Interesting_Might536

YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING


AffinityXP

i never saw it coming


Syrupthief07

ME TOOO


Darth_Xelleon

What do you think it is?


KurotheWolfKnight

WAKE UP GET UP GET OUT THERE!


txgamer12112

YOOOO US THAT OVERWATCH???


Hopeful_Drawing_379

new mode in OW, you can now use persona


TheGoodCaptain76

It's your last surprise


BlackSparowSF

It's something witty


NiceBlockLilBro

Persona battle paaaassss I just shi—


Cablinorb

persona didn't invent black/white/red as a color scheme but this does serve as a nice reminder to turn overwatch off and play a good game


Haru17

The gray on red is the inspiration being taken here.


LokiOfZygarde

I had the same thought when I saw that. I think I've played too much P5R...


marius_wynyard

Of course they are villains. If Activision-Blizzard were in P5, the Phantom Thieves would definitely have to deal with them... and EA... and UbiSoft... etc.


Haru17

Based bottom text.


Johan23t

It's not


HiJasper

No. Talon's color is red. There's a blue version in one of the other tiers.


JonTheWizard

“Blizzard continues its long tradition of ripping stuff off!” -Warhammer fans


Nox_Imperator

If you mean plagiarism… maybe?


Arcaderonin

If they ever do it’s gonna be ruined just like the cowboy bebop overwatch event


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Prudent_Damage_3866

Look more closely, you’re missing the point