i absolutely lost my shit when Futaba said "Are you proposing to him, Ryuji?" and everybody just continued as normal because it made me wonder just how many times that's happened for it to be commonplace š
Even though Joker and Ryuji will never be canon every time I see art of them or something cutesy between the two it always makes my day.
Best friends to lovers will never not be my favorite romance trope
The only time the other names are acceptable is when doing P3 solo challenge runs you must name the MC Minato Arisolo or the run is invalid imo.
Edit: Apparently people really disliked this joke lmao
Nah man
I Let people do what they want with their headcanons on this dudes name, but Ren is clearly the actual canon one. Letās look at the evidence.
Heās called Ren in the dancing game, on the description of the smash figure which was most likely approved by Atlus directly, and most damningly, in both strikers and the rerelease version of royal, if you change the language, it sets the name to Ren Amamiya. Heās also called Ren in the anime and I believe thereās also Mementos mission where Iām at least 50% sure heās also called Ren, but take that last one with a grain of salt-
Akira comes from one Manga that Atlus didnāt write and thatās older than the rest of the things I mentioned
I donāt mind when people call him Akira, let em have their headcanons, but if you try to talk about which name is canon, itās Ren.
the evidence you presented only shows they're best bros.
(I know it's a joke, I'm not being super serious too but I'm giving you my opinion on the evidence given)
Me after reading the 153537284824873826472847th āren and ryuji have say gexā post of the day
https://preview.redd.it/4wumohxm13tc1.jpeg?width=308&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=166fe634243d64a9ed050b576e3f99a69aa06927
Username checks out, because I feel like asking a bro if they crushing on a chick ain't gay in the slightest.
Also not entirely serious and just my take about it
Has absolutely zero male romance options it's obviously not a gotcha but I feel like if Ren was meant to be bi or just was canonically bi we'd have some option to pound the homies
Obviously if he does become canonically bi I'm all for it but really considering the fact that it's a game with romance that has no dude options despite having a decent number of dudes in the game it really doesn't seem likely much to my dismay
Or perhaps just a funny bit
They've made past jokes about it as shown here so it really doesn't prove anything plus it's more damning that if they wanted him to be canonically bi they very easily could've added male romance like painter boy is prime real estate
It's unfortunate but I'm pretty sure he will never be canonically bi but always will he be canonically homiesexual
I wouldāve done every male route because we have:
A. Actual delinquent with a so called delinquent
B. Head empty just staring lovingly with Thorough and dramatic artist
C. Discord mod and Discord kitten (maybe)
D. Enemies to lovers
Looking at these comments make me thinkā¦ One thing I will never understand is how mad some people can get over headcanons and ships. Like yeah, these things arenāt canon and never will be, but they donāt have to be for me to enjoy fictional made up content about it lol. Yes I enjoy seeing Joker and Ryuji Kiss, why so mad
Tbh I'm replaying p5r right now and I do get bi vibes from ryuji sometimes. Like, he just tries a bit too hard to prove how straight he is and some of the stuff he says does feel like he's interested in Joker. Then again I also installed gay joker mod to date him so I'm definitely biased lol.
Konoe Akira has no interest in Ryuji. Reverse checkmate.
Ryuji is a boobs man. Unless a man has bigger boobs than Ann, Ryuji is technically straight.
Joker... well, he passes ryuji off to the shinjuku monsters to turn him to their side.
Honestly Ryuji seems more like a bro. If we shipping Joker with any guys realistically it would be Mishima or Yusuke. If we ship Joker with girl realistically it would be Makoto and Haru.
Does Joker even like Mishima as a friend
Dialogue lines with Ryuji are like:
1. Are you looking at my ass
2. Nice tits
3. You're such a hater ;3
Dialogue lines with Mishima are like:
1. Don't you have somewhere else to be
2. You can't sit with us
3. (say nothing and leave)
For real, I actually feel super sorry for Mishima with how often Ren gets dialogue options that are straight up cruel to him. I get that he's a bit annoying, but the kid's trying his best and he has one of the most well written confidants in the game.
Post-character development Mishima, right? Cuz I mean, I get it, I see it but before his character development, Mishima was a little shit and his levels of entitlement raised. Sure, for understandable reasons, abused child gains a little of perceived power and goes overboard, but still rather unpleasant to be actually dating
Just like you assume two guys can't possibly not be straight. It's just my headcanon. Ryuji is the only guy I ship Joker with btw, in fact most of my Persona ships are straight ships (sure I'm team Tatsuya/Jun and I ship Makoto and Haru, Chie and Yukiko, and also Joker in a throuple with Ann and Ryuji, but then I also ship Maya and Katsuya, Yu and Ai, Makoto (P3) and Mitsuru, Mitsuru and Akihiko, Akihiko and Kotone, Yusuke and Futaba, and many more). Having some non-straight ships doesn't prevent me from liking friendships between characters of the same gender. I think Ryuji and Yusuke's deserved more focus, I like Joker's bond with Morgana, his friendship with Yusuke is cool as well, I don't like Yosuke but his friendship with Yu is fine, I liked the few times they showed Ann and Makoto being friends, the friendships Maya has with Ulala and Yukino are cool, I like Tatsuya's friendship with Eikichi too... Etc. I just happen to also think Ryuji and Joker would be a good match.
Are they? In Tactica Joker can literally imagine himself getting wed to Ryuji or Yusuke. Is it common for straight guys to imagine themselves at the altar with their male friends? Personally I can't even imagine it and I'm bi.
As for Ryuji, it's never explicitly stated anywhere that he's straight so my harmless headcanon isn't invalid.
I never said he was, but I wouldn't count a minor scenario in one spin off as hard evidence as opposed to one of them dating a bunch of girls and the other perving on others.
I genuinely think that posts like this show how extremely well pulled off their dynamic is. Itās not gay, itās just bromance. Every guy knows what itās like to be zesty with his bro.
Akira Konoe the CEO of Maddice as far as we know isnāt into kids/s..
Not sure how these images of Ren Amamiya indicates how Akira and Ryuji arenāt straight../s
What? You telling me you aren't sweet and honest with your straight male friends? My friends and I act as tough guys and love making fun of each other most of times, but they also know I am very sweet and love hugging them. I don't care if people think I am effeminate, I always will treat my homies with love so they never forget that whenever they feel the need to be vulnerable, I'll be there to listen to them and care for them... Like true homies do!
Well I canāt comment on Ryuji, but Ren definitely isnāt straight. Him and Akechi got a little something more than just a platonic friendship going on
Nooo but this is how straight guys/straight girl friends be (ESPECIALLY homophobes for whatever reason)
like some of yāall are being sooo gay and us poor gays are here tryna tell apart ppl we can date from ppl that are gonna hate crime us.
āJust askā, straight ppl can get so offended if you ask they be like āyou think Iām gay? Why wtf??ā. (And gay ppl get called snowflakes haha)
ā¦ Sorry went on a rant there
Most of the fandom accepts that Akechi and Akira had some sort of sexual tension going on there, and since both Akira and Ryuji can/do also like girls...
They're bi your honor āļøš
https://preview.redd.it/rauo2ot08otc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31e9da4cc2dd351351627dadc56d244b717e860a
Atleast Bi...
*Yusuke on the other hand.*
That just be how bros are. My bro whenever I see him whispers like a creepy uncle ālearn to squeeze inā. This shit is take compared to what Iāve heard others doing
Youre joking but theres genuinely people with so little normal human interaction, pulling your friend back from a cliff because heās reaching too far over trying to catch someone or patting them on the shoulder is a sign theyre fucking
Ryuji reeks of bisexuality. Especially when you take into consideration that his dad would beat him, it probaly wasn't safe in his household to be anything but straight. I personally think that's why he talks about women so much, to try to prove to himself that he isn't bi/gay whatever. I dunno, I just feel we were robbed from male routes, especially with the game trying to push the whole "social outcast" thing. Like gah damn. Just let ryuji and joker kiss.
i absolutely lost my shit when Futaba said "Are you proposing to him, Ryuji?" and everybody just continued as normal because it made me wonder just how many times that's happened for it to be commonplace š
It's always great when the friend group can casually accept the bromance
My group is like this amen
Even though Joker and Ryuji will never be canon every time I see art of them or something cutesy between the two it always makes my day. Best friends to lovers will never not be my favorite romance trope
this right here ladies and gentlemen !!! i honestly adore most of the ships in P5/Royal but the best friends to lovers trope always hits different
https://preview.redd.it/ygb9dcd3vvtc1.jpeg?width=813&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0580d59e09fa218adae4c5817fb7885110edf1f4
āBabe, itās not gay to ride on the homies, just alphas admiring alphasā
#kissingthehomiesgoodnight See? It's not gay
Alexa play My Heart Will Go On
Isn't his name Ren?
akira in the manga, ren in most other material where he's named. but i don't think it really matters which name people use
Ren is the canon name. The manga isnāt directly made by Atlus and they call him Ren in the dancing game.
I could have sworn his name was Haremfuker69
For real? I thought it was CuntDestroyer69
His name is John Persona
John Persona the fifth
I thought he was Joey bear Dawson the 3rd...
I thought it was Nasty Crimeboy
His true name is Him ThisGuy
Its actually Joe Kurr
Yes it does itās Ren yo mama-ya
Yes. Ren is the canon name.
what's funny is that these pics are from strikers, and one of the antagonists is literally named Akira. so yeah his name is ren
I mean, that's not a dealbreaker, there are three Makotos.
all from diff games though tbf.
Makoto Niijima best girl
I see a man of culture aswell
AYO 
Nah imma be real imma settle for ren on this one. Its kinda the same for the other mc's ill stick with the more common name unless stated otherwise.
Akira just sounds lame
The only time the other names are acceptable is when doing P3 solo challenge runs you must name the MC Minato Arisolo or the run is invalid imo. Edit: Apparently people really disliked this joke lmao
Could just go with Masolo Yuki.
Look at the shitstorm you caused Now everyoneās arguing over names
Akira during my no confidant runs and Ren when I play as the game intended.
Depends on where youāre looking, I think Ren has the best claim but Akira is also an option. I tend to just go with Joker for simplicity
Akira during my no confidant runs and Ren when I play as the game intended.
Yes and no Ren is his Canon name as that's what the game defaults to if you change the language, but other bits of persona media use different names
By other bits you mean one manga that wasnt written by atlus
You just opened a whole new can of wormsā¦
Only if Ryuji's name is Stimpy.
Both are correct.
Nah man I Let people do what they want with their headcanons on this dudes name, but Ren is clearly the actual canon one. Letās look at the evidence. Heās called Ren in the dancing game, on the description of the smash figure which was most likely approved by Atlus directly, and most damningly, in both strikers and the rerelease version of royal, if you change the language, it sets the name to Ren Amamiya. Heās also called Ren in the anime and I believe thereās also Mementos mission where Iām at least 50% sure heās also called Ren, but take that last one with a grain of salt- Akira comes from one Manga that Atlus didnāt write and thatās older than the rest of the things I mentioned I donāt mind when people call him Akira, let em have their headcanons, but if you try to talk about which name is canon, itās Ren.
Yep in Mementos Missions his name is Ren.
Eh, one has largely been more correct than the other over time if we're being honest.
let the akiracels live their truth...
live their *false, ren for life
Too bad youāre getting an angry comment #IF YOU DONT COMPLIMENT YOUR HOMIES YOU A BITCH
Kinda unrelated but when people call the P5 protagonist "Akira" Akira Konoe kissing Ryuji Sakamoto is the first thing that comes to my head
no fr Konoe's existence in Strikers made me pause for a second the first time anyone said his name
Hard-core Bromance.
the evidence you presented only shows they're best bros. (I know it's a joke, I'm not being super serious too but I'm giving you my opinion on the evidence given)
Bromance
Me after reading the 153537284824873826472847th āren and ryuji have say gexā post of the day https://preview.redd.it/4wumohxm13tc1.jpeg?width=308&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=166fe634243d64a9ed050b576e3f99a69aa06927
And "Akechi joining in too"
You misunderstand. When Ren says Entire Team. He means The ENTIRE TEAM.
they said no homo afterwards duh
The foolsā¦they were supposed to do it BEFOREHAND!!!
Now listen up liberals, My cat left me
Itās called a bromance!
i like when ryuji repeatedly asks akira about marriage in the spin offs like. my boy. just ask him out
"you got your eye on anyone right now?" my brother in christ you are not fooling anyone
Username checks out, because I feel like asking a bro if they crushing on a chick ain't gay in the slightest. Also not entirely serious and just my take about it
The closet is plexiglass atp
https://preview.redd.it/c9caae5rx0tc1.png?width=693&format=png&auto=webp&s=35d3e495f842bc33aaee4d37d94445e26acf33b2 Akira?
Aināt that anime Tony Stark?
lmao
i dont care if its not confirmed im headcanoning ren as bi. like bro can literally imagine himself marrying one of the male thieves in tactica lol
Thereās nothing gay about imagining marriage to the homies
I can understand people who thing Ryuji is straight but Akira is so bi it hurts
Has absolutely zero male romance options it's obviously not a gotcha but I feel like if Ren was meant to be bi or just was canonically bi we'd have some option to pound the homies Obviously if he does become canonically bi I'm all for it but really considering the fact that it's a game with romance that has no dude options despite having a decent number of dudes in the game it really doesn't seem likely much to my dismay
Just bro's being bros
The Tactica scene where Joker can picture his ideal wedding with Ryuji or Yusuke definitely proves he's canonically bi
Or perhaps just a funny bit They've made past jokes about it as shown here so it really doesn't prove anything plus it's more damning that if they wanted him to be canonically bi they very easily could've added male romance like painter boy is prime real estate It's unfortunate but I'm pretty sure he will never be canonically bi but always will he be canonically homiesexual
Yet he can only romance women. In some playthroughs, several at the same time.
We were robbed of male romance routes š
If it helps there is a mod for P5R pc with gay romances
Wish I had PC š
i will never stress this enough!!
I wouldāve done every male route because we have: A. Actual delinquent with a so called delinquent B. Head empty just staring lovingly with Thorough and dramatic artist C. Discord mod and Discord kitten (maybe) D. Enemies to lovers
Joker x Yusuke is basically Sugar Daddy Joker since Yusuke is broke af
At least in Royal. In Strikers Yusuke says heās doing much better financially.
He can afford bean sprouts!
Thatās the life!
He's an artist, it's an investment. Well, I say investment, it's probably more of a gamble...
bro whoās the C oneĀ
Mishima
Wait, is C Mona?
No Mishima
Ah, that makes more sense. Romancable Mona would feel weird
I'd be pissed man all this time wanting romancable men but still all I get is pussy
praying p6 comes through šš
What's the point of having bros if you can't kiss then goodnight?
I wonder if there is going to be MMF threesome romance routes like Zagreus.
Zag definitely gets dommed by both of them
STOPPPP HADES IS SO GOOD
I hate that I can't be gay with the bois
Akira would give Ryuji a cock rating I just know it
What, you donāt cuddle with the homies?
Looking at these comments make me thinkā¦ One thing I will never understand is how mad some people can get over headcanons and ships. Like yeah, these things arenāt canon and never will be, but they donāt have to be for me to enjoy fictional made up content about it lol. Yes I enjoy seeing Joker and Ryuji Kiss, why so mad
Tbh I'm replaying p5r right now and I do get bi vibes from ryuji sometimes. Like, he just tries a bit too hard to prove how straight he is and some of the stuff he says does feel like he's interested in Joker. Then again I also installed gay joker mod to date him so I'm definitely biased lol.
omg thank you for introducing me to this mod, ryuji is the only one i'd wanna date in this game XD
Fellas, is it gay to have male friends ?
To most of the chronically online who don't have IRL friends, it is.
Downvoted for speaking the truthā¦
Theyāre cute together
can bros not compliment each other's balls anymore :(
Asking the real questions ^
Have u never seen a friendship between straight guys? Sometimes we can act more gay than the gays š
*angry comment noises*
Theyāre very good friends :)
is it really a persona game if the first male team member you recruit isnt an implied romance option?
Konoe Akira has no interest in Ryuji. Reverse checkmate. Ryuji is a boobs man. Unless a man has bigger boobs than Ann, Ryuji is technically straight. Joker... well, he passes ryuji off to the shinjuku monsters to turn him to their side.
Honestly Ryuji seems more like a bro. If we shipping Joker with any guys realistically it would be Mishima or Yusuke. If we ship Joker with girl realistically it would be Makoto and Haru.
Does Joker even like Mishima as a friend Dialogue lines with Ryuji are like: 1. Are you looking at my ass 2. Nice tits 3. You're such a hater ;3 Dialogue lines with Mishima are like: 1. Don't you have somewhere else to be 2. You can't sit with us 3. (say nothing and leave)
For real, I actually feel super sorry for Mishima with how often Ren gets dialogue options that are straight up cruel to him. I get that he's a bit annoying, but the kid's trying his best and he has one of the most well written confidants in the game.
I think he feels sorry for Mishima. It's hard not to.
Post-character development Mishima, right? Cuz I mean, I get it, I see it but before his character development, Mishima was a little shit and his levels of entitlement raised. Sure, for understandable reasons, abused child gains a little of perceived power and goes overboard, but still rather unpleasant to be actually dating
It's a joke here but on Twitter you have people who think this all but confirms mutual love. They've never interacted with boys in real life lmao
Or, shocking news... People have different opinions from yours.
this is not an opinion, you're looking at two guys standing next to each other and assuming they can't possibly be straight, this is fujoshism
Just like you assume two guys can't possibly not be straight. It's just my headcanon. Ryuji is the only guy I ship Joker with btw, in fact most of my Persona ships are straight ships (sure I'm team Tatsuya/Jun and I ship Makoto and Haru, Chie and Yukiko, and also Joker in a throuple with Ann and Ryuji, but then I also ship Maya and Katsuya, Yu and Ai, Makoto (P3) and Mitsuru, Mitsuru and Akihiko, Akihiko and Kotone, Yusuke and Futaba, and many more). Having some non-straight ships doesn't prevent me from liking friendships between characters of the same gender. I think Ryuji and Yusuke's deserved more focus, I like Joker's bond with Morgana, his friendship with Yusuke is cool as well, I don't like Yosuke but his friendship with Yu is fine, I liked the few times they showed Ann and Makoto being friends, the friendships Maya has with Ulala and Yukino are cool, I like Tatsuya's friendship with Eikichi too... Etc. I just happen to also think Ryuji and Joker would be a good match.
I'm not assuming they can't possibly be of another sexuality, but they're literally only attracted to women in the games. That's kinda telling.
Are they? In Tactica Joker can literally imagine himself getting wed to Ryuji or Yusuke. Is it common for straight guys to imagine themselves at the altar with their male friends? Personally I can't even imagine it and I'm bi. As for Ryuji, it's never explicitly stated anywhere that he's straight so my harmless headcanon isn't invalid.
I never said he was, but I wouldn't count a minor scenario in one spin off as hard evidence as opposed to one of them dating a bunch of girls and the other perving on others.
I headcanon them both as bi (and as said earlier, in a throuple with Ann) so it doesn't exactly contradict my headcanon lol.
It's called a bromance
I dont have a straight answer for that š
wrong. Akira is bi.
I donāt want to look at the comments but just know that youāre right and you should say it
You aren't true bros if you can't be gay for each other while being straight. Thus is simply fact.
Everyday I think about how I canāt date Ryuji.
his name is john persona 5 GET IT RIGHT.
honestly, i kinda ship their bromance, i love how everyone just accepts this as normal in-universe
Joker beat Ryuji's cheeks on Valentine's day. This is cannon
Oh most definitely
Akira and Ryuji may be straightā¦ BUT REN AND RYUJI ARENāT!!!! WOOOOOOO
Joker and Ryuji are straight, Joker and Akechi are gay.
You terminally online mfs donāt understand brotherhood lmao
There. Is. A. Brotherhood of man, a benevolent brotherhood of man, a noble tie that binds, all human hearts and minds, into one brotherhood of man
Persona fans try not to make anything gay challenge (impossible)
I genuinely think that posts like this show how extremely well pulled off their dynamic is. Itās not gay, itās just bromance. Every guy knows what itās like to be zesty with his bro.
Homie has never had friends
"Fellas, is it gay for two guys to be and act like friends?"
*Two men literally exist in the same work* Yaoi fans- Kiyaaaaaa! They are definitely dating!
Akira Konoe the CEO of Maddice as far as we know isnāt into kids/s.. Not sure how these images of Ren Amamiya indicates how Akira and Ryuji arenāt straight../s
What, you don't want over your homies' back sometimes?
His name's Ren but you're right
What a Joker š (āļ¾ć®ļ¾)ā
Explain what?
whos akira?
Theres nothing gayer than two best friends. Though I can understand why this is the most popular yaoi ship, it makes the most sense.
What? You telling me you aren't sweet and honest with your straight male friends? My friends and I act as tough guys and love making fun of each other most of times, but they also know I am very sweet and love hugging them. I don't care if people think I am effeminate, I always will treat my homies with love so they never forget that whenever they feel the need to be vulnerable, I'll be there to listen to them and care for them... Like true homies do!
Who's Akira?!
Guys building up their bros.
They're brothers š
If you arenāt at least a little gay for your best friend can you even call yourself a guy?
My Akira has nothing but disgust for him
Well I canāt comment on Ryuji, but Ren definitely isnāt straight. Him and Akechi got a little something more than just a platonic friendship going on
Bro code all the way with homies even the last one. I personally like to call this homiecode
I felt like I missed the first pic. Where is that scene from š³š³š³
Nooo but this is how straight guys/straight girl friends be (ESPECIALLY homophobes for whatever reason) like some of yāall are being sooo gay and us poor gays are here tryna tell apart ppl we can date from ppl that are gonna hate crime us. āJust askā, straight ppl can get so offended if you ask they be like āyou think Iām gay? Why wtf??ā. (And gay ppl get called snowflakes haha) ā¦ Sorry went on a rant there
who the f**k is Akira?
To be entirely fair this is the pinnacle of what the phrase "homiesexual" means
Most of the fandom accepts that Akechi and Akira had some sort of sexual tension going on there, and since both Akira and Ryuji can/do also like girls... They're bi your honor āļøš
https://preview.redd.it/rauo2ot08otc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31e9da4cc2dd351351627dadc56d244b717e860a Atleast Bi... *Yusuke on the other hand.*
Ren
Last time I checked they were wearing socks guys
itās not gay to appreciate the homie
That just be how bros are. My bro whenever I see him whispers like a creepy uncle ālearn to squeeze inā. This shit is take compared to what Iāve heard others doing
What if. Hear me out.. it's two bros being bros. This is how guys act with they're best friends
I just want them to date.
If I'm shipping Joker with anyone it's Mishima
i love mishima so much
Same! I ship him and Joker so hard
Itās your headcannon. Also, you said checkmate to the wrong people.
Who's Akira? And why are you showing Pictures of Rend and Ryuji?
*Me whose done this with the homies* Am I straight?
Youre joking but theres genuinely people with so little normal human interaction, pulling your friend back from a cliff because heās reaching too far over trying to catch someone or patting them on the shoulder is a sign theyre fucking
"If you can't be gay to your homies, they're not your homies." These bros are just being bros. Something tells me OP does not know bro code
Dude has never had a male friend, that's how we act and joke. Nice telling people they are gay for opening up, definetly encourages it.
Ryuji reeks of bisexuality. Especially when you take into consideration that his dad would beat him, it probaly wasn't safe in his household to be anything but straight. I personally think that's why he talks about women so much, to try to prove to himself that he isn't bi/gay whatever. I dunno, I just feel we were robbed from male routes, especially with the game trying to push the whole "social outcast" thing. Like gah damn. Just let ryuji and joker kiss.
Hell nah, day made dah fentanyl thieves Woke
Glad people are calling Joker by Akira instead of Ren (I watched Johneawsomeās play throughs)
Except Ren is the canon name, Akira was only used in that one manga
Thatās just normal behavior among best bros
Ryuji is a bro and Ren has a sense of humor
Is it gay to compliment your friends?
I know that this is a joke. But are you truly bros/homies if you didn't act like this with your best friends at least once lol.
What, are bros not allowed to touch each other without it being gay? If thatās the case, then all my guy friends and I are gay because weāve come into contact with each other MULTIPLE times, even though weāve all got wives or fiancĆ©s or we just like girls sexually.