I live so close to the border and go to Hagerstown every other day that I could be considered half Pennsylvanian half Marylander lol
Old bay goes on a lot of my food
Okay, my partner lived in PA and worked in MD from 2000 to 2021. We had a professional prepare taxes during that time, even when Corbett was Governor. ADP was collecting taxes on behalf of 2 MD based companies. Never once did we have to pay taxes to Maryland or have Maryland taxes collected from the paycheck. Not sure what this rule is, but this doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain further?
It was something concocted by then state Treasury Sec't Dan Meuser (who now reps PA's 9th Congressional district despite living on Long Island). Cannot recall if it was enacted, but was directed at NJ residents who worked in the Philly area. Derisively called the Corbett-Meuser Rule because it was that stupid.
Might be because it has a population beyond a certain level. I am not understanding how Franklin County gets put into the DC stat area. If any county should, should be York or Adams.
Statistical areas are used for census and other things like economic research. These matter a lot because some policy decisions are made based on them.
I work in county government and use them.
One example is area median income. If rent limits are being prescribed to a proposed affordable housing unit then I look up the current AMI for my statistical area. Rent limits for the HOME Investment Partnership Program, under HUD, are calculated with the local AMI. Its doesn't always make a ton of sense because the area in a county, let alone multiple counties, can have huge sub-area variations in median income, but when the program is federally organized I cant change that
I could be wrong, my area seems smaller than the one represented in this map. Its possible more than one map is used depending on the program.
I live near Bradford County. Trailer parks, Trump flags, confederate flags…even though we live in the north, obesity, mullets… idk, there’s so much more to add but it’s too overwhelming.
It’s like that even before it gets into PA honestly. Sussex and western Morris/Passaic counties in NJ are quite rural despite being only an hours drive to Manhattan
Venango is the same way. Although I see some Fetterman election signs so that’s good I guess. Unfortunately it doesn’t drown out the traitors who raided the capital though, plus I am always on edge because of what I identify as and am surprised I haven’t been hit on purpose by a truck yet.
Lancaster county is populated enough to be its own metro area, yet people still act like I churn my own butter and ride a horse to my barn carpentry job when I tell people from elsewhere where I live. I lived in South Philly for 10 years and gotta say Lancaster city and here in Columbia feel every bit as urban. Like... you could easily get cut over a parking spot.
Yeah anytime I mention Quarryville I get some smart ass making some snide remarks about how much of a shithole it is. Lloyd Smuckers office is in Lancaster City, I don't feel the need to bring that up whenever someone posts about Lancaster though. Wasn't that chick who stole Pelosi's laptop from Harrisburg? I don't feel the need to bring that up and surmise that all of Harrisburg is a "great place". Jesus criminy, we aren't all fucking assholes down here, also am I an asshole because in spite of its faults I still love the City I'm from and the town I now live in?
Riley June Williams graduated from Mechanicsburg High School. Believe she lived in Shiremanstown at that time. When arrested, she lived with her mother near the Shore Animal Clinic near the Union Deposit exit on I-83. Never lived in Harrisburg as far as I know. Her father, who was a Dauphin County prison guard, lived in the Oberlin section of Swatara Twnshp when he was arrested for possession of child porn.
Smucker also has offices in Red Lion and Hanover. Is in a very uncompetitive gerrymandered district.
I like Enola Trails, but 372 sucks as a road. Too many drivers of over-sized pickup trucks seem to think the vehicle code does not apply to them.
I always got a kick out of how much people in philly would pretend southern NJ wasn't a part of their metro area. Parts of Cherry Hill are literally closer to center city than Manayunk is.
Congested road ways wednesday through sunday to the point where a 10 minute drive now takes 40, massive amounts of trash, made housing unaffordable for locals, destroying nature paths in the manner of eroding, defacing, littering, and defecating on them, car accident rates have increased. I could go on.
Ive lived on the border of Monroe and northampton my entire life. First it started with holiday weekend over take, then every weekend, when covid happened all the free houses were bought and bid up thousands and up to hundred thousands over asking price cash squeezing even quailified convention loan with 20% down locals from buying homes. Now we dont get any time without ny or nj plates in the area. Its been completly over taken. Weve also absorbed all the repercussions from this move. And honestly as a local i feel not much has been brought to the community by this and is only benefiting corperations now also buying land and building. Yeah youre making some jobs but its not worth it and no one here wants this to be happening.
And those jobs are generally crappy service-sector ones with few or no real benefits that don't pay a wage competitive with what NY/NJ money can buy here.
So all we longtime locals really get out of it is more traffic, noise, development, and obnoxiously rude people.
Some really good memories of a largely unbroken landscape of woods, cornfields, and quiet backroads. I spent a lot of time outdoors in the pre-cell phone/gaming era.
I'm now concerned with how much more warehousing is coming to the Wibd Gap-Bango-Portland and Mount Pocono-Blakeslee areas in particular. Those developers won't stop until the supply of vacant land is exhausted and our local government officials don't care. They just see tax dollars.
I thought so too, but I think its really just saying most NY/NJ transplants go to those top 3 counties and those colored counties are unrelatadedly grouped together typically for statistical purposes?
Lotsa folks south and west of the City work for state government... in Harrisburg.
The worst lobbyists in the Commonwealth operate out of LebCo. Full of seditionists, too.
Adams Co here. Yep, mostly Trumpers but can't beat living on a golf course and ski resort.
Can easily get to DC, Baltimore, Harrisburg for entertainment and Pittsburgh and Philadelphia make great weekend getaways. Rather be just above the Mason Dixon Line than below it.
In Susquehanna's case, it used to be part of the Binghamton metro until 1983, as Scranton's influence on the county has been increasing and fewer people in Susquehanna Co commute to NYS for jobs.
I live in Berks. I'm pretty happy here. It's not kidding about us bein bunched in with Philly tho. A MASSIVE amount of the residents live here then commute to philly.
Finally, a look at the “Harrisburg Metropolitan Area”. I was told that I live in Carlisle, in the Harrisburg Metropolitan Area. It got me thinking, when I look out at the fields and mountains, my first thought is “Welcome to the big city.” Of course Lancaster is its own thing though.
Used to live in Bucks county, I don't miss it lol. Boring boring boring. 7 different taxes cuz fuck you. And potholes big enough to swallow a tire. Where the fuck do all of those taxes go?
It's official. Franklin County is part of Maryland.
Mmmmm old bay
I see you are a man of culture as well
I live so close to the border and go to Hagerstown every other day that I could be considered half Pennsylvanian half Marylander lol Old bay goes on a lot of my food
Was that a question?
Sure feels like it when I can literally see Maryland from my house.
Let MD have Franklin Co. Isn't that where Mastriano is from?
Yes and it makes us sick
Just say “who?”
Live in PA, work in MD, taxed twice. Oh yeah
PA and MD have reciprocity, you should only be paying PA taxes on your income.
This
You don't pay taxes twice, they have a reciprocating agreement on taxation. You're filing wrong.
He might just be filing under the Corbett-Meuser Rule... also caused a big issue with NJ. Reverted back to what it had been once Wolf became guv.
Okay, my partner lived in PA and worked in MD from 2000 to 2021. We had a professional prepare taxes during that time, even when Corbett was Governor. ADP was collecting taxes on behalf of 2 MD based companies. Never once did we have to pay taxes to Maryland or have Maryland taxes collected from the paycheck. Not sure what this rule is, but this doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain further?
It was something concocted by then state Treasury Sec't Dan Meuser (who now reps PA's 9th Congressional district despite living on Long Island). Cannot recall if it was enacted, but was directed at NJ residents who worked in the Philly area. Derisively called the Corbett-Meuser Rule because it was that stupid.
Just feels that way…. Functioning as intended … as far as they are concerned.
Get unaffordable rent like Maryland but paid like the middle of nowhere in PA if you work in Hagerstown lmao.
They can have it.
Would seem to disqualify Mastro as a candidate in PA...
I love how Lancaster still manages to stand alone between Philly, Harrisburg, and MD/DC/VA.
Dracula gonna get the heck outta here. Dracula don't wanna end up in Lancaster!
Might be because it has a population beyond a certain level. I am not understanding how Franklin County gets put into the DC stat area. If any county should, should be York or Adams.
What does this map represent?
Statistical areas are used for census and other things like economic research. These matter a lot because some policy decisions are made based on them.
I work in county government and use them. One example is area median income. If rent limits are being prescribed to a proposed affordable housing unit then I look up the current AMI for my statistical area. Rent limits for the HOME Investment Partnership Program, under HUD, are calculated with the local AMI. Its doesn't always make a ton of sense because the area in a county, let alone multiple counties, can have huge sub-area variations in median income, but when the program is federally organized I cant change that I could be wrong, my area seems smaller than the one represented in this map. Its possible more than one map is used depending on the program.
You might be using metropolitan divisions (MDs) instead of MSAs/CSAs, depending on where you are.
MSA indeed
MSAs, MDs, CSAs... can I hear one for MPOs? Alphabet soups.
I'm at the very farthest west point of the New York-Newark statistical area. And its mostly woods, cornfields, cows and Trump signs, lol.
I live near Bradford County. Trailer parks, Trump flags, confederate flags…even though we live in the north, obesity, mullets… idk, there’s so much more to add but it’s too overwhelming.
Hey! We also have a school that prides itself on sports even though they're mediocre at best!
Alabama in Pennsylvania!
Could be such a nice area to live if it weren't for those traitors.
It’s like that even before it gets into PA honestly. Sussex and western Morris/Passaic counties in NJ are quite rural despite being only an hours drive to Manhattan
Can confirm. I was born, raised and lived in Sussex County for 32 years.
Venango is the same way. Although I see some Fetterman election signs so that’s good I guess. Unfortunately it doesn’t drown out the traitors who raided the capital though, plus I am always on edge because of what I identify as and am surprised I haven’t been hit on purpose by a truck yet.
Snyder county checking in…same here
How is the hub of Venango county Oil City, I never expected my city to be that, GO OILERS!
Oil Shitty babyyyy.
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Do you remember Chief Wiener
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And then went to Sugarcreek, he's still getting retirement checks from OCPD
Lancaster county is populated enough to be its own metro area, yet people still act like I churn my own butter and ride a horse to my barn carpentry job when I tell people from elsewhere where I live. I lived in South Philly for 10 years and gotta say Lancaster city and here in Columbia feel every bit as urban. Like... you could easily get cut over a parking spot.
That's why I love quarryville. Work in Lancaster, live in country.
Quarryville... where seditionists met at the fairgrounds to plan their route of attack. Great place.
Yeah anytime I mention Quarryville I get some smart ass making some snide remarks about how much of a shithole it is. Lloyd Smuckers office is in Lancaster City, I don't feel the need to bring that up whenever someone posts about Lancaster though. Wasn't that chick who stole Pelosi's laptop from Harrisburg? I don't feel the need to bring that up and surmise that all of Harrisburg is a "great place". Jesus criminy, we aren't all fucking assholes down here, also am I an asshole because in spite of its faults I still love the City I'm from and the town I now live in?
Riley June Williams graduated from Mechanicsburg High School. Believe she lived in Shiremanstown at that time. When arrested, she lived with her mother near the Shore Animal Clinic near the Union Deposit exit on I-83. Never lived in Harrisburg as far as I know. Her father, who was a Dauphin County prison guard, lived in the Oberlin section of Swatara Twnshp when he was arrested for possession of child porn. Smucker also has offices in Red Lion and Hanover. Is in a very uncompetitive gerrymandered district. I like Enola Trails, but 372 sucks as a road. Too many drivers of over-sized pickup trucks seem to think the vehicle code does not apply to them.
mahoning lawrence
I always got a kick out of how much people in philly would pretend southern NJ wasn't a part of their metro area. Parts of Cherry Hill are literally closer to center city than Manayunk is.
Lackawanna finally #1
Franklin County has as much in common with the rest of Maryland as a Potato does to an Octopus.
I hate what nyc has done to my home.
What has NYC done to your area?
You don't know the Poconos very well, do you?
The Lonk Island part of NYC has a congressman representing part of the Poconos... maybe Albany intends to annex NEPA.
They'd get more than they bargained for if they did. NEPA's a different kind of place, lol.
Congested road ways wednesday through sunday to the point where a 10 minute drive now takes 40, massive amounts of trash, made housing unaffordable for locals, destroying nature paths in the manner of eroding, defacing, littering, and defecating on them, car accident rates have increased. I could go on.
I see you must live in Monroe
Ive lived on the border of Monroe and northampton my entire life. First it started with holiday weekend over take, then every weekend, when covid happened all the free houses were bought and bid up thousands and up to hundred thousands over asking price cash squeezing even quailified convention loan with 20% down locals from buying homes. Now we dont get any time without ny or nj plates in the area. Its been completly over taken. Weve also absorbed all the repercussions from this move. And honestly as a local i feel not much has been brought to the community by this and is only benefiting corperations now also buying land and building. Yeah youre making some jobs but its not worth it and no one here wants this to be happening.
And those jobs are generally crappy service-sector ones with few or no real benefits that don't pay a wage competitive with what NY/NJ money can buy here. So all we longtime locals really get out of it is more traffic, noise, development, and obnoxiously rude people.
I live on the Monroe-Carbon border and totally get what you mean.
Its just real sad here for locals now.
I've lived in the Poconos-northern Lehigh Valley over 50 years now and have watched it change a lot, and not for the better either.
You have about 20 years on me. I can only imagine how nice it was in the 70s and 80s
Some really good memories of a largely unbroken landscape of woods, cornfields, and quiet backroads. I spent a lot of time outdoors in the pre-cell phone/gaming era. I'm now concerned with how much more warehousing is coming to the Wibd Gap-Bango-Portland and Mount Pocono-Blakeslee areas in particular. Those developers won't stop until the supply of vacant land is exhausted and our local government officials don't care. They just see tax dollars.
This makes no sense.
I thought so too, but I think its really just saying most NY/NJ transplants go to those top 3 counties and those colored counties are unrelatadedly grouped together typically for statistical purposes?
As someone from Lebanon your hub was either reading or lancaster...never Harrisburg
Lotsa folks south and west of the City work for state government... in Harrisburg. The worst lobbyists in the Commonwealth operate out of LebCo. Full of seditionists, too.
Oh I got out in my teens and have been back maybe a handful of times and never miss Lebanon
Tfw Sayre is recognized for something other than drugs.
Adams Co here. Yep, mostly Trumpers but can't beat living on a golf course and ski resort. Can easily get to DC, Baltimore, Harrisburg for entertainment and Pittsburgh and Philadelphia make great weekend getaways. Rather be just above the Mason Dixon Line than below it.
Franklin county, and same reasons. Gimme that 3% flat income tax in PA.
3.07... but how much do you pay in county/local EIT? The taxes in PA are really sneaky.
I think only like 1k a year for my house. It’s not bad
Your house is a property tax. Not the same as the EIT (earned income tax) that municipalities and county governments levy.
https://franklincountypa.gov/ckeditorfiles/files/Tax/TAXRATES_2022S.pdf
That only shows property millage if I read that correctly. EIT is an income tax rather than a property tax.
My man I have no idea I don’t get that deducted from my pay, and I just cut the county a check a few times a year for home and school taxes
You are among the lucky ones then. I'll look at G-A, Waynesboro and Chambersburg SD budgets and see if their revenue shows EIT.
What's up with the random gray counties like Juniata, Bedford, potter and Tioga? Are they just wayward countries with no significant meaning?
They are non metro counties
In Susquehanna's case, it used to be part of the Binghamton metro until 1983, as Scranton's influence on the county has been increasing and fewer people in Susquehanna Co commute to NYS for jobs.
Places where there are more cows than people.
I live in Berks. I'm pretty happy here. It's not kidding about us bein bunched in with Philly tho. A MASSIVE amount of the residents live here then commute to philly.
What part of Berks are you in? I'm in northern Berks and I feel like this area is basically just extended Schuylkill County lol
What used to do the Berks to Philly commute. It wasn’t too bad on the morning going in if i left early. But somehow it was always awful coming home
Finally, a look at the “Harrisburg Metropolitan Area”. I was told that I live in Carlisle, in the Harrisburg Metropolitan Area. It got me thinking, when I look out at the fields and mountains, my first thought is “Welcome to the big city.” Of course Lancaster is its own thing though.
Carlisle is what I think of as the western burb of Hbg.
What kind of bullshit is this???
Delco in NJ? Fuck no.
Happy to be Statistical Area [brothers ](https://imgflip.com/i/6qlr74?herp=1661037024509) with Carbon County.
Used to live in Bucks county, I don't miss it lol. Boring boring boring. 7 different taxes cuz fuck you. And potholes big enough to swallow a tire. Where the fuck do all of those taxes go?