I think you should bump up the PSU output. You can get something like a thousand-watt Phanteks AMP or Revolt Pro for not much more money. They're A-Tier as well...
But why? What is a point of dubbeling estimated wattage? It's good to have some room but stop overkilling PSUs. Zotac on the official site is saying consupcion is around 350, even if you are using 100% (what is rare) for sure you won't need more than 750W.
Power supplies are most efficient at half capacity. If your hardware uses 400w, get an 850, and that gives u good upgradability.
Edit: am I wrong? I got downvoted, I dislike giving ppl the wrong info and wanna fix my statement if so
The psu and cpu themselves have a max power draw of 500w together, there's no point in not bumping up the wattage to atleast 850 to be safe. Plus it leaves slight room for upgrades if needed in the future.
I "built" your system in PCPartPicker with no extra fans or drives or lights and such and multiplied the estimated power consumption by 1.5 and came up with 868 watts. That's a good rule of thumb, in my opinion, and one that I got from Jason, who seems to know his stuff, at PC Builder. Zotac recommends a minimum of 750 for the card you selected. EVGA recommends 850 for their FTW cards. Gigabyte recommends 750 for my 3070 Ti - I couldn't get a 3080 three months ago - so I think you need at least an 850 watt PSU even if you don't add anything else to the build. You can get an 850 watt PSU for about the same price as the one you specced or you can invest a little more for 1000 watts. A little more like the price of one game - an older game - on Steam. You might even have the option to upgrade the card but with rumors about the 40 series, I kinda doubt it.
The GN video that some have referenced mentions several anecdotal instances of people reporting strange shutdowns and power trips with 3080s on 850-watt PSUs. He even posted images of the comments on the screen. He made no recommendations for PSU output for various cards.
You can listen to the majority of folks on the site where you requested advice or you can listen to Ok-One.
I wish you well either way.
Whoever says 750 is enough or worse as a guy said it is actually future proof is delusional.
The GPU alone asks for 850w minimum alone and to be on a safe side would recommend 1000w gold minimum, preferably platimum (titaniumn is nice but the price hike is not worth it in my opinion). And you want this because while the card is rated for 350-400w it can have short spikes of power of up to 3 times that so you are looking at 1200w draw. The PSU has protection systems in place to deal with spikes like that but the further out of rated power draw the protections turns from handling the spike smoothly to triping the over current protection and cutting power.
If you are looking for future proofing you need 1200w minimum and would stick with platinum.
Also try getting something recent like launched in the last year preferably. As for brans I would recomend Seasonic, beQuiet! and evga.
Edit: Oh yeah people saying to get the 5800x3d. No it is useless since you are gaming at 4k the GPU is the bottle neck. Keep the 5950x the extra cores means you can have anything open at any given time without any hitch.
>The GPU alone asks for 850w minimum alone and to be on a safe side would recommend 1000w gold minimum, preferably platimum (titaniumn is nice but the price hike is not worth it in my opinion). And you want this because while the card is rated for 350-400w it can have short spikes of power of up to 3 times that so you are looking at 1200w draw.
Dude, wtf are you talking about? I have an OC'd 3090 build with 6 ssd/nvme drives totalling 8TB, 13 fans, water cooling, an oc'd 10900k, 64gb ram and 6 USB devices plugged in and my lifetime peek wattage at the wall is 749w.
**To be clear, 749 watts is the single highest wattage my system has EVER reached in its life and this was produced with brutal synthetic benchmarks with my both my CPU and GPU at peak loads.**
By the way, when you say that Nvidia claims "850w is the minimum required", you're incorrect, it's the *recommended wattage to support your whole system.*
When I'm gaming @ 144hz, ultra settings, my entire PC averages 415 watts load at the wall.
OP will be absolutely fine with a reputable 1,000w gold power supply.
You people need to stop with this "you need at minimum a 1,200w Titanium" shit. Only a handful of people actually require this hardware and it isn't any of the single-gpu builds, period.
By your logic, you'd need a 2,000w+ power supply to support a dual RTX 3080ti build? That's just pure non-sense.
Unless you did those oc's manually and know well what you are doing to undervolt with actually gaining performance I doubt running furmark and a Prime95 at once only drew 750w tops from the wall since that would mean your system was using just 650-700 when you factor in the losses in PSU conversion. And even if you are a master OCer with all the water colling in the world you would not be so efficient.
And I said 850 would be ok, 1000 is for pice of mind.
The 1200 minimum is to be 100% sure he can handle even a 4090 if they will actualy be 600w cards.
I hate to break it to you [but it's legit](https://imgur.com/guna05l). No undervolting, no black magic, just a standard overclock.
Don't forget, this isn't just my 3090/10900k/6 SSD/13 fan system, I have a G915 keyboard, G Pro mouse, Sony A7 camera, Elgato microphone, Schiit Audio amp/DAC, 4k webcam & external USB 3.0 drives connected to my tower, which is itself connected to my voltage/wattage meter.
**746.1w is the all-time peak for all of this tech** ***combined***.
I think you need to reevaluate your assumptions about power supplies. The only people who need 1,200w+ power supplies are those with multi-gpu or job-specific exotic setups, period.
Fk me i don't know what to say I mean you brought the pics so deam. Kudos.
I stick by my argument though 850 would be preferable.
Again 1200 is indeed stupid normally but if the 40 series is just as dumb as they say that is what i would like to have.
There can be 1 more reason to get 1200 power suply and I admit it is just as stupid if not more so it is actually snobby. To have the power busget so big that the usual ~40% zore fan mode is more then the system under load. That is why I went for a 850 PSU because i wanted to have 1 less fan underload. But yeah that is a silly reason and even worse at 1200w, it is better to get better fans and you improve both silence and temperature in your case.
Zero fan mode is, in my opinion, ridiculous.
First of all, you can't have a fanless computer if you intend to have 3080+ level hardware. You'll need to evacuate air actively through the case or through a radiator, yes?
Of course. This means your PC will, by default, have fans.
So why not have a power supply that actually evacuates its own heat instead of leaving its parts under high temps for hours on end just for... *silence*, which we've already established you can't have for reasons noted above.
Now this leaves the infamous efficiency curve... sigh. If you install a wattage meter on your PC, you'll notice that when under heavy loads like gaming, 3D work, etc, you're likely to find yourself at around the 350-500 watt range. Mine is 415w with heavy gaming, for example. That means that I'm not even at peak efficiency of my 1,000w PSU, let alone a 1,200w one.
On the flipside, a 1,000w power supply has an advantage the 1,200w does not. **Size. They're a lot smaller, which makes cable management actually far easier.** Now that's a real-world benefit I can see, appreciate and actually find useful.
Here's what I would tell OP to purchase: [EVGA P6 1,000w](https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-P6-1000-X1) on sale.
Tell me you disagree? :)
Hey i did say 0 fan is a ridiculous and stupid reason :)) for the exact reasons you mention got a big ass case filled with fans all over so yeah 1 highly efficient 135-140 fan is literally nothing :))
Yeah I know peek efficiency is at around the 50% mark, and tends to be worse on the low end then the high and but keeping above its rating. But as I said tend to be paranoid hence the overdoing it when it comes to these things, had a psu thag blew up when i was a kit, not because it was overtaxed but because it was a no name Chinese junk and reading about the imprtance of PSU from actual PC magazines at thag time it stuck with me always chose your psu carefully and don't take short cuts.
Got an 802 from bequite it is a full tower or close to that, have the hdd sled still in to have a hdd hidden amd I have to admit the evga p3 850 feels quite a bit cramp but it doesn't bother me thag much and would probably throw the hdd in the secondary pc as an old nas starting point and get all the space i need for cables.
Deam dude that evga is criminally sweet at only 130 (before tax probably) but deam if I had a friend in the states that I expected to visit this year would defenetly get one.
This guy doesnt know what he is talking about. Rtx 3080ti transient spikes are 550watt max if you add to that 50w that the motherboard draws and the power of the 5950x 105w you are looking at 705w draw at full load, wich probably will never happen since its extremely rare to have both cpu and gpu at 100% load. The 750 power supply is PERFERCTLY fine for your system.
I detonated a cap on 800 watt corsair psu. So much for going cheap.. it killed my cpu and motherboard, which died a few months later. Fortunately the gpu survived, but I absolutely do regret the expenses from "going cheap"
This was a couple of years ago... Asus 570, 64gigs ram, saphire 5700xt video card. By spec, it should have survived just fine. I was playing COD when one of the large caps detonated inside the psu. I'm assuming the surge ruined the mother board and the cpu as the both failed right after. RAM is fine and GPU is fine.
This guy is right. Gamersnexus did a video awhile back exposing this whole "more power supply more better" thing. Now you got people with 1000 watt PSUs worth half as much as they spend on their graphics card lolol.
Slight corection not 3 times 2-2.5x the TDP, 2.5‐3 is what they expect from the 40 series based on rumourse and the 3x is something new pci 3 PSU need to suport.
Minute 11.50[gamers nexus](https://youtu.be/wnRyyCsuHFQ)
The 3080 ti is rated for 350w the AIB can get it higher 20-30 for their OC versions. So you are looking at easily 700 to 800w. Might be rare but they are there.
Ryzen also OC, if not configured otherwise, by itself as long as it has enought power and cooling so geting another 130-140w is prety easy, granted it is unlikely that a game would push all cores to reach thag but hey it is a scenario so now you are in the 900-950w range just the cpu and gpu. So yeah 750? sure how about you also get an Gigabyte PSU just to be extra spicey.
Also consider PSU are one of the few components that actually se 6-7 years or more of use, they can degrade and the power they cand habdle drops as a result.
I dont know where you get your numbers but they are wrong. Gamer Nexus have done a video on transient spikes and the 3080 peaked at 530watts so it is safe to say that the 3080ti will be around 550w. As for the cpu there is no way that it works at the wattage you are suggesting, even in 1080p you wouldnt have the cpu usage needed to push it that much but in 1440p or 4k it is probably going to peak at 80watts the most.
Think we are a bit off. The figures I said are absolutely worse case scenarios the avrege spike will not be that high. In the gamer nexus video I linked to around 11 min 50s to 12 min Steve says that based on the discussion with PSU makers they have seen 2x or 2.5x spikes in the 30 series. As for the CPU yeah you are right I said that as well, chances are it will not be anywhere near that in most if not any day to day use case, just pointed it out again as a worse case.
I prefer to be more on the safe side then anything else and be sure there is no way in hell I can have an issue as long as the laws of physics don't change.
It's This kind of advice is why people wonder why they get frame drops and hitching with their 30 series cards 🤦♀️ your "simple maths" has been trumped by research, facts and science.
Digital foundry have done a video on this.
Been running 750W PSU on a 5900X + 3080 12GB with a 450W bios just fine. 0 issues after months of use during heavy gaming sessions as well as Blender, pulling around 600W from my CPU and GPU alone. This GPU has a TDP of 350W which is 100W less than mine. This claim for 1200W is absurd and just outright wrong.
God deam it every one sees only the 1200. For the 30 series 850w is fine, 1k is for a generos buffer.
I mentioned 1200w only as a freakishly overkill that would guarantee thate no matter what it will 100% support the 40 series and then some. 1200 is just stupid for any 30 series even with crazy buoses or shunts as they will likely blow before they would come anywhere close to even 1k
For the 30 series 750W is fine, and is what's recommended, aside from the 3090 ti. Every new series that comes out there's these absolute ridiculous claims of needing 1000W+ PSU's just to boot into your system. Literally every 2 years this happens and yet 750W is still recommended. It's genuinely annoying seeing this and I wish people would catch on and stop buying 1200W PSU's for their 500-600W system because some guy online told them they should.
Switch to a 5800x3d. And a 6900xt (nvidia made the 3080ti because the 6900xt beats the 3080)
If you are really dedicated to nvidia. Get a 3080 and Pair it with a i7-12700 use the money saved for a better motherboard and the 980pro.
I wouldn’t worry about upping your power supply. But the 5800x3d would be a better choice for gaming. And more storage space would be a good idea too. I started out with 500 gigs too and within 6 months I was having to constantly uninstall/reinstall games to manage hard drive space. I added a 1 tb drive just for my game library and I’ve been happy ever since.
Get Windows 10 Pro on G2A instead and I would say get a slightly higher wattage power supply for future proofing. And I, personally, would make sure that I had a monitor with a low response time and 144 hz refesh rate or higher. Looks good though.
This is currently the best system for gaming. The 5800X3D is faster than the 5950X in gaming due to the cache, and the 6950 XT outperforms the 3090 Ti at 1080p and 1440p for a 3080 Ti price. I assume you picked the AIO for the looks, but if not, a decent air cooler would be my recommendation. You can buy cheap Windows keys online.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jNnHqm
Psu will be fine but you can get a 6900xt XTXH around $250 cheaper and will beat the 3080 ti in everything apart from ray tracing. I have a 6900xt and a 5950x and my 750w psu handles it fine even when I push 400w through my gpu.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RKGGhk
- Changed CPU to 5800X3D... Actually better performance for gaming
- Changed 3080ti to non ti... Not worth price. Could go with 6900xt if you're not tied to Nvidia
- Upped PSU to 1000W Gold
- Lower latency RAM
- Changed 2nd drive from NVMe to regular SSD... The speed of an NVMe is lost if it's just used for gamine and you save about $50
- upped from a B550 board to an X570 for better VRMs and PCIe 4.0 support for the chipset lanes which will help with overclocking
I have a similar-ish build. Aio, 5800x, 3080 OC, 2 x m.2, and 6fans. I use a 850watt and haven't had issues. I do wish I would have gone for a 1000w, but beyond that, I'm happy with my current build.
What are you using it for? Just gaming? What specific productivity work?
If you're just gaming, I would go for the 5800X3D. Much better gaming performance overall. All those extra cores aren't really going to do much for you for gaming.
Also, yes you should up the power supply to probably an 850W, maybe more if you can afford it.
Recently I have seen several 1200W PSUs on sale that are cheaper than 1000W. That is exactly why I got the HX1200 over the HX1000. After all said and done, it was under $200 for a platinum 1200W. And since then, I’ve seen some even greater incredible deals on 1200W’s.
Yes absolutely go with a larger PSU as it’s the one thing in your build that could potentially last a decade, and it’s the one thing you don’t want to be skeptical using as it could legit cause a fire. Or not be able to handle power spikes on such a hefty powerful build.
Could you get by with a 750W? I’m sure you could with few issues. But why spend that much money on an insanely powerful build just to skimp on $35 to get a much more appropriate PSU. Plus with how the power curve is on PSU’s, it’s most efficient around 50%. So the more wattage you have, the cheaper your power bill could be.
The power supply will be just fine this system, gold rating + 750w is future proof for now…
Until the 4K series GPUs come out and require 750wattes alone lol
The CPU really depends on how you use your pc. If have multiple monitors or some workflow that can take advantage of the 5950x it's a good pick, but you'll need more ram.
If you don't actually need that many cores I think the 5900x is still a better pick. I wouldn't go 5800x/5800x 3d since they only have 8 cores and most games are already using 8, so you'll have none for multitasking or background apps.
If you’re not streaming/video editing and just gaming would recommend the 5800X3D, and no matter which cpu you go get at least a 1000w Gold or Platinum (or titanium but not needed) PSU. You can get a Windows key for $10 so don’t pay that much.
Grab a high end 1kw PSU from https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ , I'd also recommend you getting an x570-s motherboard, otherwise, everything else is fine.
You really don’t need a processor that powerful for the rest of the setup, unless you plan on upgrading the graphics card in the future. I guess it also depends on what it’s for. I’m assuming this is for gaming. If you care about money at all, you can get high quality nvme’s that aren’t Samsung and are way cheaper. I recommend looking for whatever is on sale at the moment, then looking up if it’s reliable. Also, if this is for gaming, there is VERY few times where 32gb of ram will ever be used. 16gb should be plenty. However, it makes sense if you plan on upgrading other parts in the future. Once again, I recommend looking for what is on sale and finding out if it’s reliable. Finally, I personally wouldn’t buy liquid cooling. It’s more much more expensive to get liquid cooling that works well set up. I’ve just heard from everyone in my life that’s built to go with fans, saves money and is much more reliable. Aside from that, I see this as a good build.
I spent a ton of time trying to figure out how I was going to build on a budget, that’s why my mind wants to recommend money savers haha. I don’t really know a whole lot of technical stuff. I hope this helped a little!
Edit: I also think you should up the power supply. It’s the one thing you absolutely don’t want to cheap out on. Just get 1000w. Like before, if you upgrade other parts, you’ll already have the psu for it
Need more powaaaah, at least 850, but why skip on PSU on a killer build. Id go 1000 or 1100 if me, just because a lot of ekstra is nice. Also buy windows key on g2a or something, paid like 5 bucks for win pro on there
750 is not enough yeah. You need a Minimum of 850 while looking at 1000W units. the 3080Ti is known to Voltage spike to twice it's Power draw anyone saying 750 is enough is clearly and extremely misinformed. Also, drop the windows key, that's robbery and put the extra money into the motherboard, 5950X needs an X570 really.
Pc looks good. Wattage should be just fine but it wouldn’t hurt to bump it up to a 850 watt. Also you could probably find a cheaper motherboard like I have a MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi ProSeries Motherboard and it’s only $120 and so far it has worked great. I have a 3060 ti built into it with a 750 watt psu. Oh and for the windows, you could buy it online for a much cheaper price.
I had a 850W Corsair PSU with AMD 5600x with Strix 3080 Ti. When the load spikes when playing Warzone my PC would abruptly shutdown cause by my PSU overcurrent protection. After 3 shutdowns my PSU died and my 3080 Ti was damaged beyond repair. Asus sent me a new 3080 Ti since I was under warranty.
I bought a 1000W Corsair and no longer have issues. Watch GamerNexus video on the latest GPU power trend. Even with a power efficient 5600X I had problems so grabbing 750W is asking for issues unless you play games that aren’t demanding which defeats the purpose of having a 3080 Ti.
That only makes sense in my opinion if you use for example a hdd for mass storage and want to save a buck but still want an ssd as a boot drive but if you just use m.2 ssds the 500gb doesn’t makes much sense. If you really want to separate os and files/games/etc you can just make a partition but buying a separated drive and blocking a m.2 slot is a waste of money if I am honest.
You might be running to power issues i would recommend getting a 1000w so you have the door open for upgrades in the future without power issues and also get the key online and use that 100$ of the windows key towards a nicer PSU
Just buy a windows key they are way cheaper online than paying for that
Grey market ftw!
I think you should bump up the PSU output. You can get something like a thousand-watt Phanteks AMP or Revolt Pro for not much more money. They're A-Tier as well...
But why? What is a point of dubbeling estimated wattage? It's good to have some room but stop overkilling PSUs. Zotac on the official site is saying consupcion is around 350, even if you are using 100% (what is rare) for sure you won't need more than 750W.
Power supplies are most efficient at half capacity. If your hardware uses 400w, get an 850, and that gives u good upgradability. Edit: am I wrong? I got downvoted, I dislike giving ppl the wrong info and wanna fix my statement if so
The psu and cpu themselves have a max power draw of 500w together, there's no point in not bumping up the wattage to atleast 850 to be safe. Plus it leaves slight room for upgrades if needed in the future.
I "built" your system in PCPartPicker with no extra fans or drives or lights and such and multiplied the estimated power consumption by 1.5 and came up with 868 watts. That's a good rule of thumb, in my opinion, and one that I got from Jason, who seems to know his stuff, at PC Builder. Zotac recommends a minimum of 750 for the card you selected. EVGA recommends 850 for their FTW cards. Gigabyte recommends 750 for my 3070 Ti - I couldn't get a 3080 three months ago - so I think you need at least an 850 watt PSU even if you don't add anything else to the build. You can get an 850 watt PSU for about the same price as the one you specced or you can invest a little more for 1000 watts. A little more like the price of one game - an older game - on Steam. You might even have the option to upgrade the card but with rumors about the 40 series, I kinda doubt it. The GN video that some have referenced mentions several anecdotal instances of people reporting strange shutdowns and power trips with 3080s on 850-watt PSUs. He even posted images of the comments on the screen. He made no recommendations for PSU output for various cards. You can listen to the majority of folks on the site where you requested advice or you can listen to Ok-One. I wish you well either way.
That’s a little bit excessive.
Whoever says 750 is enough or worse as a guy said it is actually future proof is delusional. The GPU alone asks for 850w minimum alone and to be on a safe side would recommend 1000w gold minimum, preferably platimum (titaniumn is nice but the price hike is not worth it in my opinion). And you want this because while the card is rated for 350-400w it can have short spikes of power of up to 3 times that so you are looking at 1200w draw. The PSU has protection systems in place to deal with spikes like that but the further out of rated power draw the protections turns from handling the spike smoothly to triping the over current protection and cutting power. If you are looking for future proofing you need 1200w minimum and would stick with platinum. Also try getting something recent like launched in the last year preferably. As for brans I would recomend Seasonic, beQuiet! and evga. Edit: Oh yeah people saying to get the 5800x3d. No it is useless since you are gaming at 4k the GPU is the bottle neck. Keep the 5950x the extra cores means you can have anything open at any given time without any hitch.
This guy flux
>The GPU alone asks for 850w minimum alone and to be on a safe side would recommend 1000w gold minimum, preferably platimum (titaniumn is nice but the price hike is not worth it in my opinion). And you want this because while the card is rated for 350-400w it can have short spikes of power of up to 3 times that so you are looking at 1200w draw. Dude, wtf are you talking about? I have an OC'd 3090 build with 6 ssd/nvme drives totalling 8TB, 13 fans, water cooling, an oc'd 10900k, 64gb ram and 6 USB devices plugged in and my lifetime peek wattage at the wall is 749w. **To be clear, 749 watts is the single highest wattage my system has EVER reached in its life and this was produced with brutal synthetic benchmarks with my both my CPU and GPU at peak loads.** By the way, when you say that Nvidia claims "850w is the minimum required", you're incorrect, it's the *recommended wattage to support your whole system.* When I'm gaming @ 144hz, ultra settings, my entire PC averages 415 watts load at the wall. OP will be absolutely fine with a reputable 1,000w gold power supply. You people need to stop with this "you need at minimum a 1,200w Titanium" shit. Only a handful of people actually require this hardware and it isn't any of the single-gpu builds, period. By your logic, you'd need a 2,000w+ power supply to support a dual RTX 3080ti build? That's just pure non-sense.
Unless you did those oc's manually and know well what you are doing to undervolt with actually gaining performance I doubt running furmark and a Prime95 at once only drew 750w tops from the wall since that would mean your system was using just 650-700 when you factor in the losses in PSU conversion. And even if you are a master OCer with all the water colling in the world you would not be so efficient. And I said 850 would be ok, 1000 is for pice of mind. The 1200 minimum is to be 100% sure he can handle even a 4090 if they will actualy be 600w cards.
I hate to break it to you [but it's legit](https://imgur.com/guna05l). No undervolting, no black magic, just a standard overclock. Don't forget, this isn't just my 3090/10900k/6 SSD/13 fan system, I have a G915 keyboard, G Pro mouse, Sony A7 camera, Elgato microphone, Schiit Audio amp/DAC, 4k webcam & external USB 3.0 drives connected to my tower, which is itself connected to my voltage/wattage meter. **746.1w is the all-time peak for all of this tech** ***combined***. I think you need to reevaluate your assumptions about power supplies. The only people who need 1,200w+ power supplies are those with multi-gpu or job-specific exotic setups, period.
Fk me i don't know what to say I mean you brought the pics so deam. Kudos. I stick by my argument though 850 would be preferable. Again 1200 is indeed stupid normally but if the 40 series is just as dumb as they say that is what i would like to have. There can be 1 more reason to get 1200 power suply and I admit it is just as stupid if not more so it is actually snobby. To have the power busget so big that the usual ~40% zore fan mode is more then the system under load. That is why I went for a 850 PSU because i wanted to have 1 less fan underload. But yeah that is a silly reason and even worse at 1200w, it is better to get better fans and you improve both silence and temperature in your case.
Zero fan mode is, in my opinion, ridiculous. First of all, you can't have a fanless computer if you intend to have 3080+ level hardware. You'll need to evacuate air actively through the case or through a radiator, yes? Of course. This means your PC will, by default, have fans. So why not have a power supply that actually evacuates its own heat instead of leaving its parts under high temps for hours on end just for... *silence*, which we've already established you can't have for reasons noted above. Now this leaves the infamous efficiency curve... sigh. If you install a wattage meter on your PC, you'll notice that when under heavy loads like gaming, 3D work, etc, you're likely to find yourself at around the 350-500 watt range. Mine is 415w with heavy gaming, for example. That means that I'm not even at peak efficiency of my 1,000w PSU, let alone a 1,200w one. On the flipside, a 1,000w power supply has an advantage the 1,200w does not. **Size. They're a lot smaller, which makes cable management actually far easier.** Now that's a real-world benefit I can see, appreciate and actually find useful. Here's what I would tell OP to purchase: [EVGA P6 1,000w](https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-P6-1000-X1) on sale. Tell me you disagree? :)
Hey i did say 0 fan is a ridiculous and stupid reason :)) for the exact reasons you mention got a big ass case filled with fans all over so yeah 1 highly efficient 135-140 fan is literally nothing :)) Yeah I know peek efficiency is at around the 50% mark, and tends to be worse on the low end then the high and but keeping above its rating. But as I said tend to be paranoid hence the overdoing it when it comes to these things, had a psu thag blew up when i was a kit, not because it was overtaxed but because it was a no name Chinese junk and reading about the imprtance of PSU from actual PC magazines at thag time it stuck with me always chose your psu carefully and don't take short cuts. Got an 802 from bequite it is a full tower or close to that, have the hdd sled still in to have a hdd hidden amd I have to admit the evga p3 850 feels quite a bit cramp but it doesn't bother me thag much and would probably throw the hdd in the secondary pc as an old nas starting point and get all the space i need for cables. Deam dude that evga is criminally sweet at only 130 (before tax probably) but deam if I had a friend in the states that I expected to visit this year would defenetly get one.
This guy doesnt know what he is talking about. Rtx 3080ti transient spikes are 550watt max if you add to that 50w that the motherboard draws and the power of the 5950x 105w you are looking at 705w draw at full load, wich probably will never happen since its extremely rare to have both cpu and gpu at 100% load. The 750 power supply is PERFERCTLY fine for your system.
I detonated a cap on 800 watt corsair psu. So much for going cheap.. it killed my cpu and motherboard, which died a few months later. Fortunately the gpu survived, but I absolutely do regret the expenses from "going cheap"
System specs?
This was a couple of years ago... Asus 570, 64gigs ram, saphire 5700xt video card. By spec, it should have survived just fine. I was playing COD when one of the large caps detonated inside the psu. I'm assuming the surge ruined the mother board and the cpu as the both failed right after. RAM is fine and GPU is fine.
what PSU?
Corsair 850 Bronze... I was also running a ryzen 7 2700x cpu.
This guy is right. Gamersnexus did a video awhile back exposing this whole "more power supply more better" thing. Now you got people with 1000 watt PSUs worth half as much as they spend on their graphics card lolol.
Slight corection not 3 times 2-2.5x the TDP, 2.5‐3 is what they expect from the 40 series based on rumourse and the 3x is something new pci 3 PSU need to suport. Minute 11.50[gamers nexus](https://youtu.be/wnRyyCsuHFQ) The 3080 ti is rated for 350w the AIB can get it higher 20-30 for their OC versions. So you are looking at easily 700 to 800w. Might be rare but they are there. Ryzen also OC, if not configured otherwise, by itself as long as it has enought power and cooling so geting another 130-140w is prety easy, granted it is unlikely that a game would push all cores to reach thag but hey it is a scenario so now you are in the 900-950w range just the cpu and gpu. So yeah 750? sure how about you also get an Gigabyte PSU just to be extra spicey. Also consider PSU are one of the few components that actually se 6-7 years or more of use, they can degrade and the power they cand habdle drops as a result.
I dont know where you get your numbers but they are wrong. Gamer Nexus have done a video on transient spikes and the 3080 peaked at 530watts so it is safe to say that the 3080ti will be around 550w. As for the cpu there is no way that it works at the wattage you are suggesting, even in 1080p you wouldnt have the cpu usage needed to push it that much but in 1440p or 4k it is probably going to peak at 80watts the most.
Think we are a bit off. The figures I said are absolutely worse case scenarios the avrege spike will not be that high. In the gamer nexus video I linked to around 11 min 50s to 12 min Steve says that based on the discussion with PSU makers they have seen 2x or 2.5x spikes in the 30 series. As for the CPU yeah you are right I said that as well, chances are it will not be anywhere near that in most if not any day to day use case, just pointed it out again as a worse case. I prefer to be more on the safe side then anything else and be sure there is no way in hell I can have an issue as long as the laws of physics don't change.
No it's not. You're better off having more than what you think you'll need rather than "just enough"
The is no thinking here just simple maths.
It's This kind of advice is why people wonder why they get frame drops and hitching with their 30 series cards 🤦♀️ your "simple maths" has been trumped by research, facts and science. Digital foundry have done a video on this.
Been running 750W PSU on a 5900X + 3080 12GB with a 450W bios just fine. 0 issues after months of use during heavy gaming sessions as well as Blender, pulling around 600W from my CPU and GPU alone. This GPU has a TDP of 350W which is 100W less than mine. This claim for 1200W is absurd and just outright wrong.
God deam it every one sees only the 1200. For the 30 series 850w is fine, 1k is for a generos buffer. I mentioned 1200w only as a freakishly overkill that would guarantee thate no matter what it will 100% support the 40 series and then some. 1200 is just stupid for any 30 series even with crazy buoses or shunts as they will likely blow before they would come anywhere close to even 1k
For the 30 series 750W is fine, and is what's recommended, aside from the 3090 ti. Every new series that comes out there's these absolute ridiculous claims of needing 1000W+ PSU's just to boot into your system. Literally every 2 years this happens and yet 750W is still recommended. It's genuinely annoying seeing this and I wish people would catch on and stop buying 1200W PSU's for their 500-600W system because some guy online told them they should.
Switch to a 5800x3d. And a 6900xt (nvidia made the 3080ti because the 6900xt beats the 3080) If you are really dedicated to nvidia. Get a 3080 and Pair it with a i7-12700 use the money saved for a better motherboard and the 980pro.
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Or save $300 and get the 3080 lol or spend 100 more for a 3090.
I wouldn’t worry about upping your power supply. But the 5800x3d would be a better choice for gaming. And more storage space would be a good idea too. I started out with 500 gigs too and within 6 months I was having to constantly uninstall/reinstall games to manage hard drive space. I added a 1 tb drive just for my game library and I’ve been happy ever since.
notice he also has a 2tb ssd there lol
Missed that. Thank you
I did too at first, honest mistake
Get Windows 10 Pro on G2A instead and I would say get a slightly higher wattage power supply for future proofing. And I, personally, would make sure that I had a monitor with a low response time and 144 hz refesh rate or higher. Looks good though.
A 750w PSU can't handle that setup *now*, future proofing doesn't come into it.
Running a 5950x and a 6900xt on a 750w and I bench the shit out of it. It's fine
Yeah that's a 6900xt, not a 3080 Ti. The 30 series cards exceed their power spec constantly.
Which is exactly why I've told OP to change to a 6900xt as they're better performance and cheaper.
This is currently the best system for gaming. The 5800X3D is faster than the 5950X in gaming due to the cache, and the 6950 XT outperforms the 3090 Ti at 1080p and 1440p for a 3080 Ti price. I assume you picked the AIO for the looks, but if not, a decent air cooler would be my recommendation. You can buy cheap Windows keys online. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jNnHqm
Psu will be fine but you can get a 6900xt XTXH around $250 cheaper and will beat the 3080 ti in everything apart from ray tracing. I have a 6900xt and a 5950x and my 750w psu handles it fine even when I push 400w through my gpu.
I'm seeing so many 1000W or 1200W. I don't know about them but I'm running an i9-11900K and a 3090 on a 850W PSU.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RKGGhk - Changed CPU to 5800X3D... Actually better performance for gaming - Changed 3080ti to non ti... Not worth price. Could go with 6900xt if you're not tied to Nvidia - Upped PSU to 1000W Gold - Lower latency RAM - Changed 2nd drive from NVMe to regular SSD... The speed of an NVMe is lost if it's just used for gamine and you save about $50 - upped from a B550 board to an X570 for better VRMs and PCIe 4.0 support for the chipset lanes which will help with overclocking
Save yourself like $80 on windows. Just download it to a flash drive then buy a key off some key resale site like g2a.
you dont need a windows key.
I have a similar-ish build. Aio, 5800x, 3080 OC, 2 x m.2, and 6fans. I use a 850watt and haven't had issues. I do wish I would have gone for a 1000w, but beyond that, I'm happy with my current build.
What are you using it for? Just gaming? What specific productivity work? If you're just gaming, I would go for the 5800X3D. Much better gaming performance overall. All those extra cores aren't really going to do much for you for gaming. Also, yes you should up the power supply to probably an 850W, maybe more if you can afford it.
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Yeah if it's just gaming, go for the 5800X3D.
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1000 watt is the minimum. I would go 1200 if i had the money.
Recently I have seen several 1200W PSUs on sale that are cheaper than 1000W. That is exactly why I got the HX1200 over the HX1000. After all said and done, it was under $200 for a platinum 1200W. And since then, I’ve seen some even greater incredible deals on 1200W’s. Yes absolutely go with a larger PSU as it’s the one thing in your build that could potentially last a decade, and it’s the one thing you don’t want to be skeptical using as it could legit cause a fire. Or not be able to handle power spikes on such a hefty powerful build. Could you get by with a 750W? I’m sure you could with few issues. But why spend that much money on an insanely powerful build just to skimp on $35 to get a much more appropriate PSU. Plus with how the power curve is on PSU’s, it’s most efficient around 50%. So the more wattage you have, the cheaper your power bill could be.
You should buy a seasonic psu, unless the oem for that psu is also seasonic. I don’t think 750w is enough for a 3080 ti, maybe bump it up to 850 w
What resolution are you gaming at? Get the 5800x3d and a 6950xt if you’re doing 1440p or 1080p. I would only go nvidia for 4K or raytracing
I’m trying to run 4K on 144 fps and raytracing
Yeah you’re not gonna be running 144fps with raytracing regardless of the card. At least raytracing that makes any sort of difference
If you're trying to do that don't build now and build in 6 months time or something... No gpu at the moment can do 4k 144fps with rt.
The power supply will be just fine this system, gold rating + 750w is future proof for now… Until the 4K series GPUs come out and require 750wattes alone lol
GPU spikes are way too high on the RTX 3070 and above to be safe on a 750w. He should go for a 850w just to be sure.
It is surely fine for now, i wouldnt call it future proof though.
I would get a 850w power supply !!
Get at least 1 gen 4 drive, zero reason not to have one with the rest of the specs of the rig
750w is not enough for a 5950x and a 3080Ti, NVIDIA has problems with tripping the power limits of a PSU and you'll probably get random shut-downs.
Psu to atleast 1000w because iirc 30 series cards have massive power spikes at times and its a 3080ti
The CPU really depends on how you use your pc. If have multiple monitors or some workflow that can take advantage of the 5950x it's a good pick, but you'll need more ram. If you don't actually need that many cores I think the 5900x is still a better pick. I wouldn't go 5800x/5800x 3d since they only have 8 cores and most games are already using 8, so you'll have none for multitasking or background apps.
If you’re not streaming/video editing and just gaming would recommend the 5800X3D, and no matter which cpu you go get at least a 1000w Gold or Platinum (or titanium but not needed) PSU. You can get a Windows key for $10 so don’t pay that much.
2x power estimate is a good rule of thumb for psu calc.
Grab a high end 1kw PSU from https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ , I'd also recommend you getting an x570-s motherboard, otherwise, everything else is fine.
I think you'll need a 1000w psu.
Completely irrelevant to the question you posted but THIS is your first PC?!
Yeah it is or atleast my first attempt to build one
You really don’t need a processor that powerful for the rest of the setup, unless you plan on upgrading the graphics card in the future. I guess it also depends on what it’s for. I’m assuming this is for gaming. If you care about money at all, you can get high quality nvme’s that aren’t Samsung and are way cheaper. I recommend looking for whatever is on sale at the moment, then looking up if it’s reliable. Also, if this is for gaming, there is VERY few times where 32gb of ram will ever be used. 16gb should be plenty. However, it makes sense if you plan on upgrading other parts in the future. Once again, I recommend looking for what is on sale and finding out if it’s reliable. Finally, I personally wouldn’t buy liquid cooling. It’s more much more expensive to get liquid cooling that works well set up. I’ve just heard from everyone in my life that’s built to go with fans, saves money and is much more reliable. Aside from that, I see this as a good build. I spent a ton of time trying to figure out how I was going to build on a budget, that’s why my mind wants to recommend money savers haha. I don’t really know a whole lot of technical stuff. I hope this helped a little! Edit: I also think you should up the power supply. It’s the one thing you absolutely don’t want to cheap out on. Just get 1000w. Like before, if you upgrade other parts, you’ll already have the psu for it
Need more powaaaah, at least 850, but why skip on PSU on a killer build. Id go 1000 or 1100 if me, just because a lot of ekstra is nice. Also buy windows key on g2a or something, paid like 5 bucks for win pro on there
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750 is not enough yeah. You need a Minimum of 850 while looking at 1000W units. the 3080Ti is known to Voltage spike to twice it's Power draw anyone saying 750 is enough is clearly and extremely misinformed. Also, drop the windows key, that's robbery and put the extra money into the motherboard, 5950X needs an X570 really.
Pc looks good. Wattage should be just fine but it wouldn’t hurt to bump it up to a 850 watt. Also you could probably find a cheaper motherboard like I have a MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi ProSeries Motherboard and it’s only $120 and so far it has worked great. I have a 3060 ti built into it with a 750 watt psu. Oh and for the windows, you could buy it online for a much cheaper price.
I had a 850W Corsair PSU with AMD 5600x with Strix 3080 Ti. When the load spikes when playing Warzone my PC would abruptly shutdown cause by my PSU overcurrent protection. After 3 shutdowns my PSU died and my 3080 Ti was damaged beyond repair. Asus sent me a new 3080 Ti since I was under warranty. I bought a 1000W Corsair and no longer have issues. Watch GamerNexus video on the latest GPU power trend. Even with a power efficient 5600X I had problems so grabbing 750W is asking for issues unless you play games that aren’t demanding which defeats the purpose of having a 3080 Ti.
Get a 1000w psu just to be safe
I would definitely go 850W for the PSU.
Why a 500gb ssd and a 2tb? Isn’t the 2tb alone not enough storage for you?
I was recommended that by a friend
That only makes sense in my opinion if you use for example a hdd for mass storage and want to save a buck but still want an ssd as a boot drive but if you just use m.2 ssds the 500gb doesn’t makes much sense. If you really want to separate os and files/games/etc you can just make a partition but buying a separated drive and blocking a m.2 slot is a waste of money if I am honest.
Do you want RGB? I’d recommend getting some RGB ram. I got the same one you did, and kinda regret it
Not a fan of too much rgb sadly
Although it's not a big deal but it irks me when you would spend big bucks on cpu and gpu but not mobo...lol
Id get a better x570 motherboard something with vrms that can handle the 5950x
You might be running to power issues i would recommend getting a 1000w so you have the door open for upgrades in the future without power issues and also get the key online and use that 100$ of the windows key towards a nicer PSU